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<remiliascarlet> Government workers are all dumb fucks.
<remiliascarlet> They can't think outside the box at all.
<remiliascarlet> Me: "I need this document." They: "OK, getting it in order." A little bit later: "Unfortunately, we can't print this out, because it's registered in a different town." Me: "Then in that case, nothing is needed." They: "Huh?" Me: "That nothing is needed." They: "........what exactly do you want?"
<remiliascarlet> Government workers are clearly Javascript developers.
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<SiFuh> Heh
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<remiliascarlet> From all the spare ribs you can get here in Japan, those from Costco are the best in every single metric. They're the cheapest, the tastiest, the cleanest, the biggest volume (4 kg for 4,000 yen), and the easiest to grill.
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<remiliascarlet> On Amazon you'd pay 5,000 yen for 1.2 kg, and it tastes like the delivery box it came in.
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: I just go to the street market and say "I want that leg" and they lop it off and weigh it and hand it to me and I go home.
<remiliascarlet> And they're small too.
<remiliascarlet> Unfortunately, these markets are too far away from me.
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<remiliascarlet> Oscars are a meme.
<remiliascarlet> There's a good reason nobody takes them seriously anymore.
<SiFuh> I don't know of anyone that watched the Oscars.
<SiFuh> I remember the day when actors had to have diginity and show respect to their appearance even in public. It was considered bad form to look like and dress like a slob and do rude things in public.
<SiFuh> But as the decades went by they just got more and more lazy, unruly, uncouth so to say
<SiFuh> Electric cars pollute 1,850 times more than fuel-based vehicles, study finds
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<zorz> bonjour
<SiFuh> zorz: I found the perfect setup for your zoom calls on OpenBSD or whatever you use
<SiFuh> So you will need something like this.
<SiFuh> And also, I found the perfect microphone and headphone headset for you
<zorz> thank you
<SiFuh> You're welcome
<zorz> the second one is if you are married!
<zorz> AHAHAH
<zorz> SiFuh: this is what you do ?
<SiFuh> Second one you can put on anyone's head, even a stuffed teddy bear
<SiFuh> And no one will know you are not there.
<SiFuh> zorz: Or you can do it like Eric Cartman
<zorz> sif fuction works
<remiliascarlet> SiFuh: Just found this: https://invidious.jing.rocks/watch?v=BlgdvSNpi60
<remiliascarlet> Don't you love the 90's, when people still know more than just Windows and macOS?
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: Saw that a long time ago
<SiFuh> Maybe better zorz watches it
<SiFuh> Though he won't remember after 5 minutes
<remiliascarlet> Maybe translate it to French?
<SiFuh> Heh
<zorz> remiliascarlet: bonjour :)
<remiliascarlet> La me no speak Francois.
<SiFuh> zorz: You know it is night time here right?
<zorz> SiFuh: correct! I keep forgetting.
<remiliascarlet> zorz: You know that after night time comes day time?
<SiFuh> Bonne soiree
<zorz> remiliascarlet: thank you for remind me
<SiFuh> Although evening has ended because it is getting close to midnight
<zorz> et apres bonne nuit
<remiliascarlet> It's midnight in about 15 minutes.
<zorz> nooooo
<SiFuh> bon arrêt
<zorz> i just woke up 3 hours ago.
<SiFuh> bon tais-toi
<remiliascarlet> We are a mostly Asian IRC channel (among the most active few people).
<zorz> Greece is in the middle of the way.
<remiliascarlet> Just go one country further to the east to join Asian pride.
<zorz> remiliascarlet: iam good as I am :)
<SiFuh> Turkey
<remiliascarlet> Or just wait for Erdogan to revive his Ottoman Empire 2.0 so he makes Greece Asian again for you.
<SiFuh> Haha
<SiFuh> As far as my feet will carry me
<zorz> remiliascarlet: he cant, used to be an Empire... made from mogols. Even the Turks the original derived from mogols should not be more than 5% of Turkeys population.
<zorz> you are lucky in japan, mogols try to reach you but do to hurrican or something lost all the boats.
<remiliascarlet> Typhoon.
<SiFuh> zorz: The second was better
<remiliascarlet> Hurricans are on the eastern side of the Americas.
<remiliascarlet> Cyclones are in Oceania.
<remiliascarlet> Tornadoes are western side of the Americas I suppose?
<SiFuh> Hurricanes are also on the western side of America as well
<SiFuh> Tornadoes are not Hurricanes, Typhoons or Cyclones
<zorz> so in japan you call them Typhoons or Cyclones?
<remiliascarlet> Typhoon.
<remiliascarlet> Japan is in Asia, not Oceania.
<SiFuh> I will simplify it for you. Cyclones spin clockwise and are in the Southern Hemisphere. Hurricanes spin anti-clockwise and are in the Northern Hemisphere. Asians think they are special so they name theirs Typhoons.
<remiliascarlet> I call it 台風.
<zorz> Japan is the pearl of Asia :)
<remiliascarlet> Hope it's not the Pearl Harbour of Asia.
<zorz> remiliascarlet: haha
<SiFuh> Rose
<zorz> eee after the bombs... is similar to Pearl Harbour.
<SiFuh> I guess they are racist. They don't seem to like Africa
<remiliascarlet> And Europe.
<SiFuh> Either that or they hate the Philippines and want to kick its ass every season
<remiliascarlet> Build quality in Japan is great, so most typhoons are not an issue.
<SiFuh> Same in Australia. We do a lot of cyclone-proofing
<SiFuh> I am surprised one crosses Between Singapore and Kuala Lumpur
<remiliascarlet> Yes, those with money will make it all stable.
<zorz> remiliascarlet: in japan you have super cats aswell.
<zorz> fuckin hell.... super cats.
<SiFuh> Worse still
<SiFuh> They have Neko Cafes
<zorz> let me see.
<zorz> this is insane
<remiliascarlet> Nyanomachines, son!
<SiFuh> Holy shit
<SiFuh> IsIm9iaiI6W1t7ImhlaWdodCI6Ijw9NjY4IiwicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvZDBhZmE1OGUtZDQ4MC00OGYyLWExZTgtOGM5ZWZmMzY5YmNiXC9kODM4cjdqLTg3NDIxOWJhLTZhNzMtNDhiNi1hY2Q2LTlhZjVhYzZiM2VjYS5qcGciLCJ3aWR0aCI6Ijw9MTAyMyJ9XV0sImF1ZCI6WyJ1cm46c2VydmljZTppbWFnZS5vcGVyYXRpb25zIl19.zKmlEvSB5h877n68ZcVNLKui90aJtVPejBs6D7GAvVQ
<remiliascarlet> Fuck you Guardian, how tall do you need to make that cookie banner yet?
<zorz> SiFuh: tokeen validation failed.
<zorz> remiliascarlet: just refuse everything
<remiliascarlet> That link is almost longer than an I2P Address Helper link.
<SiFuh> Here
<zorz> with SiFuh you expertize ctrl+t ctrl+v in firefox-esr :PPp
<SiFuh> Screw firefox-esr
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: Do you wear cat ears as well?
<remiliascarlet> SiFuh: https://invidious.jing.rocks/watch?v=NTo2DPZtE9c (start from 0:47)
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: Hehehe, I have done similar
<SiFuh> I prefer using "Death by the sword"
<SiFuh> "Die by the Sword"*
<zorz> people time to do sex..... I practise style csv :-)
<SiFuh> My friend had sex a few times. Now he has 3 people that he must take care of for 18 years. I doubt the 30 second orgasm was worth it
<zorz> SiFuh: your friend had actual sex....
<zorz> hahaha
<zorz> He did not know.... the results of having sex?
<SiFuh> So did yo mama!
<zorz> 8 fences wall
<remiliascarlet> SiFuh: Any recent way in OpenBSD to find the USB memory you want to mount?
<remiliascarlet> On Linux you can just use lsblk, and I know you can use disklabel on OpenBSD, but can't remember how to list with it.
<SiFuh> You mean dmesg?
<SiFuh> For find the device
<SiFuh> Then disklabel to find the partitions?
<remiliascarlet> I know dmesg, but then you already need to know what the device is called to begin with.
<zorz> remiliascarlet: permit nopass :wheel cmd mount permit nopass :wheel cmd umount - if it helps
<remiliascarlet> zorz: Thanks for telling me what I didn't ask for.
<zorz> remiliascarlet: this is the next step.
<zorz> :-)
<remiliascarlet> A rather unnecessary next step.
<zorz> remiliascarlet: you know better.
<SiFuh> zorz: Silence. I am trying to understand exactly what remiliascarlet is asking
<zorz> csv is callin, do your stuff.
<remiliascarlet> Basically, you plug in a USB memory, and then you want to mount it, but don't know what the exact device/partition it is.
<SiFuh> I plug it in, run dmesg and I know what device. Then if I don't know the partition I run disklabel on that device without -E and it lists them
<remiliascarlet> And this is what made it awkward when I found that the printer at 7-11 can't print .txt files (only images and PDFs), so I had to open it on my laptop I had with me, but didn't know how to mount.
<remiliascarlet> If I run `disklabel`, I get a list of possible arguments.
<SiFuh> No
<remiliascarlet> Yes.
<SiFuh> I show you example hang on
<remiliascarlet> # dmesg | tail -10
<remiliascarlet> uhub1 detached
<remiliascarlet> uhub0 at usb2 configuration 1 interface 0 "Intel UHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
<remiliascarlet> uhub1 at usb3 configuration 1 interface 0 "Intel UHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
<remiliascarlet> uhub2 at usb4 configuration 1 interface 0 "Intel UHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
<remiliascarlet> uhub3 at usb0 configuration 1 interface 0 "Intel EHCI root hub" rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1
<remiliascarlet> uhub4 at usb5 configuration 1 interface 0 "Intel UHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
<remiliascarlet> uhub5 at usb6 configuration 1 interface 0 "Intel UHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
<remiliascarlet> uhub6 at usb7 configuration 1 interface 0 "Intel UHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
<remiliascarlet> uhub7 at usb1 configuration 1 interface 0 "Intel EHCI root hub" rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1
<remiliascarlet> ugen0 at uhub1 port 1 "AuthenTec Fingerprint Sensor" rev 2.00/17.03 addr 2
<remiliascarlet> OK...
<SiFuh> For exfat, msdos, fat, ntfs it is usually (i)
<remiliascarlet> You didn't do `disklabel`, you did `disklabel sd5`.
<SiFuh> What's the point of running dmesg then? Just to look silly?
<remiliascarlet> As you can see, all I got are all those "Intel UHCI root hub"'s and one "AuthenTec Fingerprint Sensor".
<remiliascarlet> None of which is the USB memory.
<SiFuh> OpenBSD also has ntfs mounting but no write. If you want write you need ntfs_3g and ntfs-3g is the command you use to mount ntfs drives
<SiFuh> dmesg |grep sd
<remiliascarlet> Obviously.
<remiliascarlet> # dmesg | grep sd
<remiliascarlet> deraadt@amd64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP
<remiliascarlet> sd0 at scsibus1 targ 0 lun 0: <ATA, CT500MX500SSD1, M3CR> naa.500a0751e6c5873d
<remiliascarlet> sd0: 476940MB, 512 bytes/sector, 976773168 sectors, thin
<remiliascarlet> root on sd0a (7e07db72ab927382.a) swap on sd0b dump on sd0b
<remiliascarlet> wsdisplay0 at inteldrm0 mux 1: console (std, vt100 emulation), using wskbd0
<remiliascarlet> wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (std, vt100 emulation)
<remiliascarlet> sd1 at scsibus4 targ 1 lun 0: <BUFFALO, USB Flash Disk, 1.00> removable serial.0411023a2C3B9CF24101
<remiliascarlet> sd1: 14806MB, 512 bytes/sector, 30322688 sectors
<remiliascarlet> sd1 detached
<remiliascarlet> Now we're getting somewhere, although it being detached is fake news.
<SiFuh> BUFFALO, USB Flash Disk? Damn
<remiliascarlet> I heard that Buffalo's tend to be delicious.
<SiFuh> Yes
<SiFuh> I will choose Buffalo over Beef anyday
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: The wife has Windows on her stupid laptop and she was watching Dune Part 1 then the computer rebooted to install updates.
<SiFuh> I was laughing so hard. I said "This is what I hate about Windows. It tells you what to do and you have to wait for it to do what it wants. Linux and Unix doesn't tell you what to do. If you fuck it, then that's on you"
<remiliascarlet> In Soviet Redmond, Windows owns you.
<SiFuh> I'd be so pissed if I was watching a movie or dowloading something or programming on OpenBSD and it just reboot to install updates
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: In Soviet Russia, You own Windows
<SiFuh> Not in Soviet Russia, Windows owns you.
<remiliascarlet> I haven't used Windows since the early 90's, so I don't even know how it "works" today.
<remiliascarlet> But one thing I know about Microsoft products in general is that they don't work.
<remiliascarlet> Here's a game dev hating on Visual Studio for almost 3 minutes: https://invidious.jing.rocks/watch?v=wCllU4YkxBk
<SiFuh> I don't know what is Visual Studio but I know a friend uses it in Colombia on his Arch box shit skirt wearing crap
<remiliascarlet> Visual Studio code.
<remiliascarlet> No Visual Studio on Linux.
<remiliascarlet> Only Visual Studio Code.
<SiFuh> VScode
<remiliascarlet> Basically, VSCode is a crappy text editor available free of charge, and loaded with spyware. VS is a crappy full blown IDE available for thousands of dollars, and also loaded with spyware.
<SiFuh> What is wrong with VI/VIM and Emacs
<SiFuh> Bluefish
<remiliascarlet> Neovim is the way to go if you want a text editor.
<remiliascarlet> Emacs is the way to go if you want an operating system.
<SiFuh> My Emacs will chomp the shit out of your Neovim
<remiliascarlet> I tried Emacs, got frustrated by its features, and got to appreciate Neovim more.
<SiFuh> Took me a few goes to figure out
<remiliascarlet> If I want to edit text, I want to do it with a text editor, not with a space ship.
<SiFuh> Well I don't know how to replace all instances of a word in VIM with a new word
<remiliascarlet> Simple: `:%s/something/onething/g`
<remiliascarlet> Some people seem to like Helix. I tried that, and it's yet another garbage written in Rust.
<SiFuh> I'll stick to VI/VIM and Emacs
<zorz> remiliascarlet: if you need emacs config.... i have a good one. for simple things vim. lsp emacs.
<SiFuh> My favorite feature is renaming files
<SiFuh> zorz: F-Off. :-P
<remiliascarlet> SiFuh: That glow is hurting my eyes.
<SiFuh> Close them
<SiFuh> Page use to be white
<remiliascarlet> It's black for me, because I use DarkReader to make the unreadable web more readable.
<zorz> speaking of vim you do this set statusline=%{mode()}\ %F%m%r%h%w\ [FORMAT=%{&ff}]\ [TYPE=%Y]\ [ENC=%{&enc}]\ [POS=%04l,%04v][%p%%]\ [BUF=%n]
<remiliascarlet> So dark mode even on websites that don't officially have one.
<zorz> or this set statusline=\[%<%F]\ \[%{&ff}:%{&fenc}:%Y]\ %h%m%r%=%-14.(%l,%c%V%)\ %P
<zorz> the same people that download vim-airline, are coding in rust HAHAHA
<remiliascarlet> zorz: Who cares? I prefer Neovim as it is.
<remiliascarlet> And yes, Neovim. Because I really like you can use Lua to configure it.
<zorz> remiliascarlet: do what you like... if you are ok with neovim. stick with neovim
<SiFuh> zorz: is giving advice ;-)
<SiFuh> zorz: How is your emacs setup?
<zorz> :-)
<zorz> you want to see ?
* remiliascarlet bitchslaps zorz
<zorz> remiliascarlet: :)
<SiFuh> zorz: No, because mine is better
<SiFuh> I do with emacs similar to vim where I have it shove backups and crap in the home directory under a specific folder tree
<SiFuh> I hate those files ending with ~ being left all over my system that VIM likes to do.
<remiliascarlet> Just make sure you `:wq` (or press ZZ) when you're done with Vim.
<zorz> SiFuh: set nobackup
<zorz> set nowritebackup
<zorz> and you get rid of the ~
<zorz> i do not know how many undo you can do with set nobackup in .vimrc
<SiFuh> zorz: I didn't say I don't want a backup. I said I don't like the ~ files all over my system. FFS
<SiFuh> zorz: How long have you been using Linux/Unix for?
<zorz> ok.
<zorz> 7,8
<remiliascarlet> 7,8 what?
<SiFuh> His height
<remiliascarlet> 7.8 meters? Holy fuck!
<SiFuh> Feet ;-)
<remiliascarlet> I don't know how to use retarded measurement systems, sorry.
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: It's true, they are retarded
<SiFuh> Based on the size of a barley grain
<SiFuh> zorz: 25 years. You think I don't know how to set 'no nobackup' in VIM?
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: It was funny the other day before I went jungle. zorz was asking help for OpenBSD and then after he was telling me all these cool things that I could do like I had no idea.
<remiliascarlet> Meanwhile, the one true measurement system (metric system) is just base 10.
<SiFuh> Nope
<SiFuh> It's based on water in base 10
<remiliascarlet> 10 mm = 1 cm.
<remiliascarlet> 10 cm = 1 dm.
<remiliascarlet> 10 dm = 1 m.
<remiliascarlet> And so on.
<SiFuh> 1 drop of water at sea level is 1 ml in size. 1 ml of water at sea level weighs 1 mg
<SiFuh> And so on..
<remiliascarlet> Also, looks like I've been proven right yet again!
<SiFuh> You only said half the truth. I added the extra truth to it
<remiliascarlet> The TikTok ban was just an excuse for the US government to ban any website they don't like.
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: Of course. It's freaking in-your-face obvious. If the president has the ability to block a Chinese Tik Tok, then he now has the ability to block any site he wishes
<remiliascarlet> I said it from the beginning, and now it's confirmed.
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: HAHAHAHAHAHA I just saw the link you posted
<SiFuh> Haitian Cannibal Gangs Pour Over US Border After Seeing How Fat Americans Are
<SiFuh> Thomas Massie was also saying that the Tik Tok ban is a trojan horse
<SiFuh> The first amendment is the target. Once they have that, everything else will crumble
<SiFuh> This is why Americans need to fight to keep their first amendment.
<remiliascarlet> Maybe they second amendment will have to crumble first to make everything else crumble.
<remiliascarlet> Look at how it went for Venezuela and UK.
<SiFuh> Without a first amendment the second amendment will fail
<remiliascarlet> I don't think you need free speech to have free arms, but you do need free arms to have free speech.
<remiliascarlet> If you're run by a bunch of tyrants at least.
<SiFuh> From the movie Dune 1. I actually know what species of beetle that is and what gender it is
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: If you remove free speech then there is no way to communicate that they are taking your arms
<remiliascarlet> In a way, the 2 amendments need each other.
<SiFuh> Well, you could say that, but there is a reason why one is actually the first amendment.
<zorz> America is like boeing!... colapsing
<SiFuh> zorz: Read the bible dude
<remiliascarlet> America and Europe too.
<zorz> i refuse to read the bible
<SiFuh> zorz: Then you are a moron
<remiliascarlet> Apparently, they are arresting people in Europe for sharing a meme in "private" (probably just WhatsCrap or Discord) chat messages.
<zorz> I am ok as I am... enough knowledge... too much is not good, I will become like you :-)
<SiFuh> There is a saying. "Those who read the newspaper and believe EVERY word is a fool. Those who do not read it at all (ignore it) are a bigger fool"
<remiliascarlet> You can't become like SiFuh if you refuse to read the fucking manuals.
<SiFuh> HAHA
<zorz> News paper you read only the headlines... i am not interested in the opinion of the reporter.
<remiliascarlet> No, too much clickbait these days.
<SiFuh> France is pushing in a new law that you can't say anything negative about vaccines or pfiezer
<zorz> anyway now days reporters are in destinction. destiction species.
<zorz> France is ruled from Jews
<remiliascarlet> Don't you mean "extinction"?
<zorz> Jews own pfizer
<SiFuh> extinction
<zorz> extinction thank you
<zorz> :-)))
<SiFuh> zorz: The entire west and the corporations are rulled by joo joos
<remiliascarlet> Destinction = being different.
<SiFuh> -l
<zorz> joo joo I like that!
<remiliascarlet> Extinction = getting removed.
<SiFuh> Destinction isn't a word though
<zorz> like the turtles careta careta
<zorz> new word made by me :))))
<remiliascarlet> Mojo Joojoo.
<SiFuh> These Joo Joos are not the Hebrews from the bible. These are 100% fake
<remiliascarlet> Hitler was too soft towards the Jews.
<SiFuh> That story was a lie
<SiFuh> He was against the anti-nationalists
<remiliascarlet> That's not what I said.
<SiFuh> So Putin is too soft on Ukraine then
<remiliascarlet> His mistake was to give them a place to live on, as he got stabbed in the back by them anyway.
<zorz> Hitler is like a baby compared to Netanahu
<SiFuh> Hitler was a jew
<zorz> Hitler cleaned them from the ones did not want.
<zorz> Hitler was the joo joo laundry
<remiliascarlet> At least the Palestinians knew from day 1 that Netanyahoo is a piece of shit.
<SiFuh> Hitler did what they wanted, then when he realised what their end goal was he refused and that is the moment he became the enemy of the Jews
<SiFuh> zorz: See if you read newspapers, you'd learn that it was always anti-Russia. The fake Jews hated Russia because they could never conquer it. By the time of WW2, they switched from Russia to Germany because they saw it was an easy way to get their nation of Israel.
<SiFuh> The first group of people to declare actual war that began WW2 was the fake Jews. They declared war on Germany.
<SiFuh> It was printed in newspapers all around the world. Jews of Judaism declare war on Germany
<zorz> the first habitants of New Israel, that moved from Cyprus Camps to Israel and the constructors were German joo joos
<SiFuh> They are not even from Jeruselum
<SiFuh> They are from the region that is and surrounds Ukraine
<zorz> yes this is truth
<SiFuh> I have already had this discussion the other day. I don't want to repeat it. But I got an entire room of people to sit down and listen, well they were all eavesdropping to begin ith
<zorz> khazars not even joo joos
<SiFuh> Warriors for hire
<SiFuh> They will fight and you don't pay them. Their reward is to rape and pillage everything from the place you hired them to fight
<SiFuh> Not enough soldiers. No worries, you call in the Khazars. They will fight. But the spoils of war is their payment. Everything is theirs until they leave back to their home land.
<zorz> yes they were hired from the byantine empire, that is the time that they chose to be joo joos
<zorz> so have a neutral position, not christian not muslim but joo joo
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<SiFuh> zorz: How is that fucking neutral?
<SiFuh> Two PDF inside
<SiFuh> Newspaper headlines
<zorz> wait this is for later.... let me bookmark the tar
<SiFuh> Well hurry because I want to delete it before the Joo Joos ban me
<zorz> ok downloaded,,, any recomendations for pdf viewer? nevermind... firefox can render pdf.
<zorz> later i will read it.
<SiFuh> zathura, xpdf?
<zorz> SiFuh: talking of emcas,,, now that i got to know basic key bindings, ok on emacs i have cua mode. mg is quite handy. ok mg not utf-8 but its handy and fast for small things.
<SiFuh> What is a cua mode?
<zorz> ctrl+c copy ctrl+v paste
<zorz> cua mode
<zorz> its in the config.
<serpente> mupdf
<zorz> i used before zathura and mupdf. never used xpdf.
<zorz> anyway for one time reding.... i will do it with firefox.
<SiFuh> xpdf is like super old, like the first
<zorz> ok got it what is xpdf.
<SiFuh> Initial release December 12, 1995; 28 years ago
<SiFuh> PDF for X11R6
<zorz> fucking hell and still relevant.
<serpente> xpdf is still the default reader on Slackware btw
<SiFuh> I use it for reading the repair manuals for my truck
<SiFuh> The util package has pdftotext which is usefull sometimes
<SiFuh> I use that in mutt to read PDF's
<zorz> first time i do not even installed feh not image viewer no pdf viewer. no office nothing HAHAHA
<SiFuh> serpente: Was teasing zorz because he is teaching me shite I already know. 7,8 years verses 25 years ;-)
<zorz> i jumb lines mentionning Slackware
<zorz> serpente: :)
<zorz> SiFuh i believe you do doas make me sandwich at home :)))
<SiFuh> zorz: Do I look like your fucking made?
<SiFuh> maid*
<zorz> haha
<zorz> sudo make me a sandwich
<SiFuh> I'll make you a sandwich tomorrow. But I will eat and think of how you could have had it
<SiFuh> Actually I made a loaf of bread today
<zorz> speaking of food,,, time for dinner.
<zorz> if i catch you later... other wise tomorrow.
<SiFuh> No one in this room can catch me
<SiFuh> Well maybe serpente could
<serpente> su -c "shut up"
<SiFuh> su: only the superuser may specify a login class
<SiFuh> Fucking Linux pussies
<serpente> i dont sudo nor doas
<serpente> just su
<SiFuh> sudo and doas were created for several purposes. For a user to get su access with their own password. Without a password and for a certain amount of time password free. It also can be configured so as to use only specific commands. But ultimately never revealling to root password to the user.
<serpente> i even suggested once (if i remember) to take out sudo from core
<serpente> its definely option, not CRUXial
<SiFuh> sudo is so insecure I don't even know why they use it
<serpente> i know what it is, by default it is a security failure, just like PAM
<SiFuh> Better to stick with su and have doas and sudo as optional
<serpente> ive tried many times to tell people to remove PAM from crux
<SiFuh> Doas is not a failure though
<serpente> as its not cruxial, nor anything use it on core
<SiFuh> Agreed
<SiFuh> The only Pam I like is from the TV series Archer
<remiliascarlet> "sudo is so insecure I don't even know why they use it" Because most Unix users are sheeple. They use "sudo" because "that's what everyone uses".
<SiFuh> sudo sucks
<SiFuh> I still can't figure out why hacking/pentesting distro use sudo
<serpente> lazyness
<remiliascarlet> As I said, because "everyone uses it".
<serpente> that a good question, most are debian or ubuntu based... so they might keep it to have less work to do
<SiFuh> Linux sucks these days
<remiliascarlet> Even though you can simply install `doas` by default, and create an `alias sudo=doas` if you're so worried about people not understanding why there is no `sudo`.
<serpente> true
<SiFuh> Your alia is incorrect
<SiFuh> alias
<remiliascarlet> Why?
<SiFuh> You forgot the space at the end of doas
<remiliascarlet> Shouldn't matter.
<SiFuh> `alias sudo="doas "` Is that so?
<remiliascarlet> Yes.
<SiFuh> It isn't so
<remiliascarlet> The space is unnecessary.
<SiFuh> We have had this discussion in CRUX as to why certain flags were not working. It's neccessary
<remiliascarlet> serpente: It's not just Linux, `sudo` is the default on FreeBSD, macOS, NetBSD, Dragonfly BSD, Illumos, Solaris... Or to keep it short, every Unix-like system except for OpenBSD.
<remiliascarlet> Probably Minix too.
<serpente> i never liked it, nor even the idea of a user running admin commands with his pass
<remiliascarlet> And Haiku, but that's not Unix.
<serpente> thas absurd, root is there for obvious security reasons
<serpente> or no pass at all
<serpente> hahah, just the idea sounds absurd
<remiliascarlet> I'd rather say that root is not the default user for security reasons.
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: man ksh and search for Aliases then read the first paragraph
<serpente> thats what ubuntu says
<remiliascarlet> DOS/Windows doesn't have users at all, so every user is automatically root.
<serpente> yes
<serpente> but to my conception of OS, that shit does not even evaluate as one
<serpente> its a mess, not an System
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: Not true for Windows
<remiliascarlet> OS's these days are a mess.
<serpente> just because it has a kernel does not make it as on
<serpente> SYSTEM = Organized structure
<serpente> in which windows does not have any
<remiliascarlet> That's why we can't just take a binary from one machine, drop it on another machine, and expect it to work.
<SiFuh> serpente: You missed before. Wife is watching Dune 1 and the computer reboots part way into the movie to do windows updates.
<remiliascarlet> Well, last Windows I touched was 3.11 or something.
<serpente> SiFuh: hahaha
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: I have all versions here starting from 1
<SiFuh> Except no 8 or higher
<serpente> i have some qemu vms for some
<serpente> never use
<remiliascarlet> Billy Gates doesn't know how to count versions, that's for sure.
<SiFuh> serpente: I am using 7 for the Colin McRae
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: Guess that is why he is a paedophile
<remiliascarlet> His entire career is based off lies.
<serpente> probably the best for it... but as i said SiFuh: WINE is so great nowday it does a better job, specially for old games
<SiFuh> Hmm, add age before the windows versions
<remiliascarlet> He's not a doctor, he's not a meteologue, and he's definitely not a software engineer.
<serpente> theres also some shit called gallium-nine
<serpente> it renders dx9 "natively"
<serpente> most games of that era
<SiFuh> Wife is using Winshit Peadophile software because of a particular program for her work. It's the only program that stops me from installing BSD
<remiliascarlet> And yet he's in charge of lethal injections, the climate hoax, and Microsoft.
<serpente> he is the mosquito father
<serpente> hehehe
<SiFuh> Climate change is a hoax don't tell ppetrov^
<SiFuh> serpente: Yeah, poor Brazil and Colombia right now
<serpente> he is going to realease more of his mosquitos
<SiFuh> He did that here
<SiFuh> And now they pump gas in our houses to fight dengue
<SiFuh> I tell them to fuck off
<remiliascarlet> Actually, most OS's these days aren't run by programmers, which is probably why they all suck. Microsoft CEO is not a programmer, Tim Crook is not a programmer, Linus Torvalds is no longer a programmer, Richard Stallman stopped programming decades ago, no idea who the fuck is in charge of FreeBSD even, which leaves only Theo de Raadt who's still programming.
<serpente> same here
<remiliascarlet> Oh, and Thierry Davis is dead.
<SiFuh> Theo de Raadt is actually the only guy on this planet I trust for managing an OS
<remiliascarlet> SiFuh: He'll find out that climate change is a scam eventually, like it happens every single time anyway.
<remiliascarlet> Mozzie: "Hi, I'm a mosquito." SiFuh: "Fuck off..."
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: Shits me that it is so in-your-face a lie and people still follow it
<serpente> hahaha
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: Actually they don't like me
<SiFuh> I know how they work and find blood. I don't really say the truth to people. I just say as a joke "They can't fly after drinking my blood so they hate me"
<remiliascarlet> It's an obvious lie, most of the people who fall for it tend to be either young people who never experienced the scam before, or older people who are addicted to their TV's and can't remember they figured out it's a scam last time.
<SiFuh> But actually if I am alone they always target me. If I am with anyone else. They target them and leave me alone
<remiliascarlet> SiFuh: SiFuh You should try this: https://invidious.jing.rocks/watch?v=prqeE0AkWCs
<SiFuh> I slept in the truck without a blanket and windows open. Wife slept in the passenger seat with blankets and jeans and pretty much covered. They chomped the shit out of her. No joke. Her entire wardrobe changed to cover up the mess they made. I woke up without a single bite. Now we have a tent to stop that problem.
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: HAHAHAHAHA
<SiFuh> In Australia they do similar with toads. They force open the mouth and shove a cigarette in and the toad breathes in and in and in until it explodes
<remiliascarlet> Alex Jones will be sad.
<SiFuh> I have never seen it and I don't really beleive it. But Aussies lie as much as the Ching Chongs
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: Alex Jones pisses me off with his self centred self worship. He does it every radio show.
<SiFuh> I usually skip over him
<SiFuh> But I don't hate him
<SiFuh> I reckon if he and I ever met, we'd have a freaking fun time together
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