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<zorz> SiFuh: ooo fuck is nice
<zorz> oooo its fucking great
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<SiFuh> Hmmm
<SiFuh> He must be loooking at the BSD chicks
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<remiliascarlet> The guy behind the xz exploit apparently goes by the name "Jia Tan". Sounds like a Chink.
<remiliascarlet> Perhaps a glowie pretending to be a "Chinese hacker".
<remiliascarlet> https://github.com/tukaani-project/xz This backdoor was so bad, Micorsoft decided to disable the repository for voilating the Microsoft GitHub TOS.
<SiFuh> Glowie?
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<SiFuh> pew pew
<ppetrov^> hmm, building libblockdev, i get: libtool: error: '/usr/lib/libuuid.la' is not a valid libtool archive
<remiliascarlet> SiFuh: Come on man, everyone on the internet knows what "glowie" means!
<ppetrov^> remiliascarlet, I don't
<SiFuh> I don't
<remiliascarlet> Glowie refers to CIA/NSA/FBI agents on the internet pretending to be regular internet users, but are so unable to actually be convincing, they just glow in the dark.
<ppetrov^> heh
<SiFuh> Weird, because I was thinking of a radioactive potato
<remiliascarlet> Also, giving NetBSD a try in a virtual machine, and goddamn that thing is minimal!
<remiliascarlet> So minimal, it includes almost nothing out of the box.
<SiFuh> Not even the kernel!
<remiliascarlet> Not literally.
<SiFuh> I want to check out the new power tool shop opened nearby. Arr arr arr
<remiliascarlet> But things like a C compiler is included in FreeBSD, OpenBSD, and Linux, but in NetBSD you have to explicitely install one.
<ppetrov^> well, this missing file was provided by util-linux, but not anymore
<SiFuh> And yet CRUX has PAM in core
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<SiFuh> Hohhh hohhh hohhh, just bought a 3 tonne trolley jack with a 51 CM lift.
<lavaball> her shots were pfizer.
<lavaball> two of them.
<SiFuh> Wonder if they used Comirnaty there
<SiFuh> Here they used Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine COMIRNATY, before it was even approved in the US
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<farkuhar> As illustrated by the commit ppetrov^ cited, CRUX does sometimes get around to deleting the libtool garbage, even if this standard is not applied uniformly across all ports. With this precedent in mind, maybe they can be persuaded to drop linux-pam from core.
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<SiFuh> farkuhar: Yes, it would be a good idea because I might rant about it and insult a few developers again ;-)
<SiFuh> It's funny that CRUX is a super lightweight distro that boasts about it and is so lightweight it doesn't even come with a built kernel yet for some reason linux PAM exists in core? That's just entirely a contradiction or just laziness on a developer to impose it on to others. Besides, we should be added not taking away. So it should be in opt.
<SiFuh> added/adding
<ppetrov^> farkuhar, how is pam related to the *.la files thing?
<farkuhar> ppetrov^: both are instances of unnecessary bloat.
<SiFuh> ppetrov^: It's not, I just went into full pissed off mode last night and had a huge rant abot it
<ppetrov^> SiFuh, should I check the log?
<SiFuh> I am afraid to check the logs myself.
<farkuhar> to expand on the above: you can run CRUX without linux-pam, and you can build most software even if there aren't any *.la files to help libtool find its bearings. Hence the two issues share the common feature of "junk", which CRUX boasts about having little of.
<ppetrov^> slackware removed la files from /usr/lib64
<ppetrov^> altogether
<ppetrov^> maybe it's not such a bad idea for CRUX to do the same, seems these cause more trouble than actually being useful
<SiFuh> ppetrov^: We don't usually have *.la files either
<SiFuh> Just some ports like to build them and the maintainer didn't remove them
<farkuhar> SiFuh pointed to the inclusion of linux-pam in core as the moment when many long-time core maintainers abandoned CRUX. But is chinarulezzz really a good example of that phenomenon? Wasn't he the same who opened FS#1924 (QEMU on headless machine)?
<SiFuh> chinarulezzz was a more recent example. But many left long before him
<farkuhar> therealfun, for example.
<SiFuh> Per and I use to clash all the time back in the day, before any of you guys existed
<SiFuh> TIG welders aren't too expensive here.
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<SiFuh> Guten zorzgan
<zorz> good morning to everybody using liblzma 5.4.4 <= for the rest morning and mkfs.ext4
<zorz> :Ppp
<SiFuh> Lots of disks to format?
<farkuhar> just zorz attempting to insert an exploit, but being even more transparent about it than the xz committer.
<zorz> arch people.... arch devs should write a script
<zorz> farkuhar: morning bro!
<farkuhar> zorz: 'lo
<zorz> laptop, is bsd. the box is debian stable... i wish had better hardware for crux. server on hetzner runs debian stable. so ok i was not affected.
<SiFuh> A 3 tonne trolley jack has plastic wheels. Hmm, interesting
<zorz> SiFuh: winter i will speak with hetzner for auction to rent a server and put crux. thats a good idea.
<zorz> with 40 euro a month can have your own server.
<zorz> or 70 euro in greece and get static ip
<zorz> or 70 euro in greece and get static ip in your home.
<SiFuh> I plan to change servers next year
<zorz> if you rent a server in hetzner i can install openbsd :0
<SiFuh> I don't like throwing stuff out. I can always find a use for it in the future. Spare parts, and pieces of plastic and all sorts of cool things.
<SiFuh> I need to do a rubbish dump run
<SiFuh> zorz: You are not the last person but you are close to the last person, I'd trust install OpenBSD. Hahaha
<zorz> rtfm rf
<SiFuh> I doubt I will ever let you install OpenBSD for me
<ppetrov^> SiFuh, few ports still ship la files, but they are still quite enough to be a pain in the ass every now and then
<SiFuh> ppetrov^: Well those maintainers either are lazy or there is a reason they exist
<SiFuh> If I remember correctly the la files I needed for VLC
<zorz> vlc? what is this? windows?
<SiFuh> I haven't done VLC in years so I am not sure
<zorz> :Pp
<SiFuh> Going to paint that wall I had trouble with yesterday in about 10 minutes
<farkuhar> jloc0 in #crux claims that some XFCE ports also fail to build if they don't find the expected *.la file from a package in xorg. I haven't done XFCE in years so I cannot confirm.
<SiFuh> dlcusa is the guy to ask even though I think he no longer does XFCE
<zorz> SiFuh: talking of setting up, if you see now my nginx.conf you will be shocked. but this i do not paste for free :PPppp Like the other day maybe a month ago somebody on #crux, crux.nu is offline no its not offline crux.nu does not redirect http to https use https:/crux.nu.
<zorz> farkuhar: did you fix this ?
<farkuhar> zorz: what are you talking about? I don't have shell access to the crux.nu server, that's a privilege reserved for core maintainers.
<zorz> let me check...
<zorz> yes they fixed
<SiFuh> zorz: Why would I be shocked. I could care less about nginx
<zorz> SiFuh: way of talking :Ppp
<zorz> I slept well....
<SiFuh> What? I have zero interest in nginx but you keep bringing it up like it is the second coming.
<zorz> ok SiFuh
<SiFuh> Don't you Okay SiFuh me. I told you many times, but you never read
<zorz> Information for inst:libarchive-3.7.2 Required by:
<zorz> cmake-3.27.5v0
<zorz> i think if bsd was affected only libarchive...
<SiFuh> Here, this is more interesting https://s3.amazonaws.com/i.snag.gy/wV9uqd.jpg
<SiFuh> I have finished painting the wall. Not I need to cut off the tape instead of trying to peel it off
<SiFuh> Hopefully on Tuesday I can work on the stairwell which has been put on hold for several days
<zorz> it looks good... professional
<SiFuh> Funny because that is what the professional painters say here to me as well.
<zorz> no seriously,, i am not joiking. i build or was in the team of building so many restaurants in my life that i know.
<zorz> now iam confused
<farkuhar> nginx config, heh. I remember messing around with apache mod_rewrite back in the day. If nginx has a more readable way to set up http->https redirects, that might explain the switch away from apache, independent of beerman's attraction to the "shiny new thing".
<SiFuh> Haha
<farkuhar> zorz is confused? don't predict that SiFuh will be shocked, even if it is just a "way of talking"
<zorz> hahaha
<zorz> nginx is easy.
<SiFuh> I prefer my language to be more direct to the point that full of idioms and phrases
<SiFuh> zorz: I was taking a wee in the hotel toilets downstairs and I couldn't help notice the shit paint job. HAHAHA
<zorz> hahahahaha
<SiFuh> Brush strokes all over the place, like someone used an ice skate to paint the wall
<SiFuh> Hold on. Need to take a photo of the three tonne trolley jack
<SiFuh> Two piston, hydraulics, 37 KG
<zorz> this is nice? tonage ?
<SiFuh> 3
<SiFuh> 508mm height
<zorz> half a meter?
<SiFuh> Yes
<zorz> its good is very good
<zorz> to trucks of yours can lift
<SiFuh> Yes, I needed this height because I drive an offroad truck
<zorz> to=two
<SiFuh> 136.96 EUR
<remiliascarlet> Fun fact: at least 26 Amish people turned out being unaffected by the xz backdoor.
<SiFuh> Or covid or the injection
<zorz> installing graphviz, is like installing a new os. fuck graphiz
<SiFuh> zorz: The normal jack is pretty useless since the truck has been lifted 3" and has 35" tyres. I have a larger 8 tonne bottle jack as well but it is pretty useless too due the lift of the truck. This is what I really wanted.
<zorz> be carefull, accidents happen. ok you are clever... but take security measures... who I am going to piss off after ?
<SiFuh> I have stands as well. I always put them under the truck even if the truck isn't resting on them.
<SiFuh> Also I throw the tyre under the car if the tyre has been taken off. Extra security feature
<zorz> this with the tyre is a clever approach.
<SiFuh> My idiot French friend use to do it and I learned it from him. So I guess he wasn't 100% an idiot ;-)
<zorz> i wanted to try this command dot -Tpng traceroute.dot -o traceroute.png with graphviz... but graphviz lots of dependancies.
<zorz> fuck graphviz!
<SiFuh> Hah! I just looked at the wall I plastered and patched and painted. You wouldn't even know it has been. Perfect!
<zorz> i told you its proffesional.
<SiFuh> The four things I hate the most. Painting, plastering, laying bricks, and manually inseminating turkeys with a syringe.
<zorz> heh
<zorz> oooooooooo
<zorz> still drinking coffe.
<SiFuh> Still eating dead cow
<SiFuh> Cool that remiliascarlet has a very similar diet to me
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<ppetrov^> great, now cryptsetup fails: configure: error: Cannot find static uuid library
<ppetrov^> fml
<SiFuh> HAHA
<SiFuh> Just recompile it
<ppetrov^> checking for uuid_generate in -luuid... no
<ppetrov^> configure: error: Cannot find static uuid library.
<ppetrov^> recompile what?
<SiFuh> I saw
<ppetrov^> that's what i am doing, rebuilding cryptsetup
<ppetrov^> oh for fuck's sake...
<SiFuh> Strange. Why would it depend on that
<SiFuh> prt-get fsearch libuuid
<SiFuh> Found in /usr/ports/core/util-linux: /var/lib/libuuid/
<zorz> I told you.... good morning to some.... only morning to some others.
<zorz> ppetrov^: if i can help... please say.
<ppetrov^> SiFuh, I did what jue suggested and i rebuild most of what was returned
<ppetrov^> i am left with cryptsetup and libblockdev
<ppetrov^> and some shit from my own xfce
<ppetrov^> zorz, noone can help me!
<ppetrov^> :D
<SiFuh> ppetrov^: Have you rebuilt util-linux ?
<zorz> ppetrov^: :Pp
<ppetrov^> SiFuh, let me try
<SiFuh> zorz: You are so gay.
<zorz> LG forever!!!
<zorz> todays LG is mostly because of Theo de Raadt
<zorz> ooo Life is Good
<ppetrov^> rebuilt linux-utils and cryptsetup still fails
<SiFuh> I built crypsetup without issues but I just realised, my system is not uptodate
<farkuhar> pkgadd util-linux#2.40 failed for me recently because it tried to overwrite manpages owned by some other packages. All those manpages were NEW in the just-built util-linux footprint, making me wonder what prevents the creation of manpages when a clean system builds util-linux.
<ppetrov^> Cannot find static uuid library
<ppetrov^> funny thing is, i have it
<SiFuh> Damn, too much to update
<ppetrov^> i update once a week usually
<ppetrov^> i still remember the headaches from last release with freetype
<SiFuh> ppetrov^: I just want to have the same issue as you
<ppetrov^> oh, you are so kind
* zorz offers ppetrov^ ASPIRINES
<zorz> yes SiFuh Aspirines from the skin of willow tree
<SiFuh> I don't take drugs, so stop peddling shit.
<zorz> natural drug
<SiFuh> Beer?
<zorz> ooooooo it is time!
* zorz cheers SiFuh !!!
<SiFuh> Aspirin is used to treat include Kawasaki disease, pericarditis, and rheumatic fever.
<zorz> Aspirin makes the blood thin. -- pericarditis
<ppetrov^> no shit, it's anti-inflammatory
<SiFuh> zorz: I can't take Aspirin. It makes me sick
<zorz> myself only aspirines never paracetamol
<SiFuh> Also I can't take acetominiophen
<zorz> but you take viagra regularly :Pppp
<SiFuh> I do?
<zorz> hahahaa
<zorz> whats the color of the viagra pill inside, the inner color ?
<SiFuh> I remember in Thailand a British guy gave my friend from Philippines some cream for an erection. He called me several days later and said it ruined the sex. I asked what had happened and he said he ate it and it was disgusting and 15 minutes later his face became very swollen. I burst out laughing and said "Your face had an erection?" He started laughing too. I then told him "You don't eat it. You rub
<SiFuh> it on your weiner"
<ppetrov^> heh
<zorz> heh
<zorz> geanious!
<SiFuh> He didn't read the label. But I can't blame it the writing is so damned small and it was in Thai
<SiFuh> But we teased him for years about how his face had an erection :-P
<SiFuh> I wonder why his throat didn't also have one since he ate it.
<SiFuh> Could have choked to death and die
<zorz> its serious!
<SiFuh> It could have been
<zorz> in his stupiditness he was lucky.... what they say in greek.
<SiFuh> zorz: You missed the URL I posted
<zorz> maybe
<zorz> post again
<zorz> hahaha
<zorz> malcovitz
<zorz> malcovitz little god
<zorz> i do not know
<zorz> couchin dog
<SiFuh> Hot dog
<zorz> Sandwich Dog
<zorz> hahaha
* SiFuh opens zorz's coffin
<zorz> hahaha
* zorz hides the shovels
<zorz> fuck.... an Italian guy arrested in Athens... he did not pay to Vanezuela 21 billion dollars oil
<zorz> Bravo!
<ppetrov^> interesting if bulgarian media will cover it
<zorz> ppetrov^: come to Chalkidiki, all of your good boys hanging there summer time
<ppetrov^> zorz, it's quite popular destination
<zorz> ppetrov^: 4-5 ago somebody paid me with 500E bills, and I asked him, are those homemade ?
<ppetrov^> if i ever visit Greece, i'll give you a call so we have a beer
<ppetrov^> zorz, i remember you telling this
<zorz> he told me... not here, you are family to me :)
* SiFuh buys chains and padlocks
<SiFuh> So since ppetrov^ is family to you, have you included him in your will?
<ppetrov^> hm, i though the guy with the 500 bill told him "not here, you are family to me"
<zorz> SiFuh: concetrate please :)
<zorz> ppetrov^: summer time you will be in bulgaria ?
<ppetrov^> may be in the end of August
<SiFuh> zorz: is all over the place more than me. Amazing
<ppetrov^> in Sofia, for less than a week
<SiFuh> Must be Linux-PAM affecting everyone
<zorz> if you drive 5-6 hours you may come to fiskardo - kefalonia.
<zorz> you are invited.
<SiFuh> So zorz can buy/drive his car there?
<zorz> need to take the ferry till fiskardo.
<ppetrov^> dude, I got my license in Finland. I have never driven in my own country and I feel very uneasy when I think about that possibility
<ppetrov^> but, thanks. Will have it in mind :P
<zorz> man its highway till astakos or lefkas and then the ferry.
<SiFuh> ppetrov^: I like driving. I just don't like other people in my car or on the road around my car in their cars on the road around my car.
<zorz> SiFuh: this is the reason you ve been watching drones carry people ?
<ppetrov^> zorz, highway is better, yes. SiFuh, I hate driving
<zorz> let me find the map
<ppetrov^> zorz, if you happen to visit Sofia around that time, let me know
<SiFuh> ppetrov^: Lots of cops?
<ppetrov^> no, i just dislike driving
<ppetrov^> it's a useful skill, but that'
<ppetrov^> that's it
<SiFuh> Hmmm
<ppetrov^> i was quite old when i got my license
<SiFuh> I think you will have a new appreciation for driving if you drove my truck in the jungle.
<ppetrov^> SiFuh, ye, i would never want to drive anymore
<ppetrov^> :DD
<zorz> https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Kefalonia,+Cephalonia/Sofia,+Bulgaria/@40.2877823,19.3355953,7z/am=t/data=!4m13!4m12!1m5!1m1!1s0x135d8e4e143c143f:0xb8ef375672163ae0!2m2!1d20.5692179!2d38.1753675!1m5!1m1!1s0x40aa8682cb317bf5:0x400a01269bf5e60!2m2!1d23.3218675!2d42.6977082?entry=ttu
<ppetrov^> 11.30 min
<ppetrov^> heh
<ppetrov^> 11h 30m i meant
<zorz> its easy ride... highway
<zorz> not greek highway.... European highway.
<SiFuh> ppetrov^: It shows you how easy road driving is when you go offroad. You move at like 30 KPH and constantly start and stop and get out to cut trees and branches. Then you have to drive through washouts and rivers and make sure you don't roll the vehicle.
<ppetrov^> SiFuh, sounds like great fun, man
<zorz> hahahahahahaaha archlinux.org TL;DR: Upgrade your systems and container images now!
<SiFuh> Heh sarcasm
<ppetrov^> well...
<ppetrov^> not my thing
<zorz> to late... they got ssh credentials by now... next botnet will be deployed soon.
<zorz> this is what i call bleeding edge.... you bleed.
<ppetrov^> The xz package has been backdoored
<ppetrov^> does this affect CRUX?
<SiFuh> https://s3.amazonaws.com/i.snag.gy/YO8RSQ.jpg Are there peopl ethat don't like Garlic and Onions?
<ppetrov^> i dont like onion
<SiFuh> So there are
<SiFuh> ppetrov^: Any reason why you don't like?
<ppetrov^> mainly the texture
<SiFuh> Cooked or raw?
<ppetrov^> when we cook, we make a paste of the onions with some carrots and tomatoers
<ppetrov^> Cooked or raw either
<SiFuh> I prefer raw myself. Simialr with garlic. I like raw garlic but I prefer oven baked garlic.
<SiFuh> ppetrov^: All good, I don't eat Chicken
<zorz> SiFuh: onions and garlic is common in greek kitchen
<ppetrov^> bulgarian, too. which is not at all unique and is a mix of greek, turkish, etc
<zorz> vinegar aswell i use homemade of wine... tasty
<SiFuh> zorz: onions and garlic are common all over the world
<SiFuh> I like vinegar
<zorz> north europe not so common
<SiFuh> Especially cider vinegar
<zorz> wine vinegar
<SiFuh> Cider vinegar is from wine
<zorz> LG
<SiFuh> zorz: Get over it dude
<SiFuh> It's already been found and repaired
<ppetrov^> zorz, what's with LQ and you?
<zorz> :)
<SiFuh> LG = Life's Gay
<ppetrov^> geez, he thought this up all by himself?
<ppetrov^> *LG, not LQ
<zorz> Life is Good
<SiFuh> ppetrov^: I remember watching Superman and the Mole Men (1951) and Lois Lane says that the day is quite gay. Everyone (Asians) started laughing. I had to explain to them it meant happy in those days.
<SiFuh> I was told from my mother the gay movement started as an acronymn. G.A.Y. Good As You. So they stole a word and basically destroyed its original meaning. Now these pricks have stole the rainbow.
<SiFuh> Good As You basically meant that they were just as good as everyone else. 'equal'
<zorz> fuckin hell, what to do now
<SiFuh> Find some malicious software in your washing machine?
<ppetrov^> SiFuh, it will wash his underwear without softener
<SiFuh> ppetrov^: Don't even know if he can wear underwear in such tight jeans
<zorz> hahaha
<zorz> SiFuh: you do not miss a chance!
<SiFuh> You said that yesterday
<SiFuh> Bob Hudson - New Castle Song
<ppetrov^> tight jeans?
<ppetrov^> when I was a teen, i used to wear tight jeans. However, I was some 20 kilos down
<SiFuh> The Newcastle Song*
<SiFuh> ppetrov^: I was thinking about that before. Maybe zorz wears the tight jeans because he has toothpick legs and no arse
<ppetrov^> heh
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<zorz> patch tight-jeans
<zorz> lavaball: welcome back
<lavaball> ...
<lavaball> hi.
<lavaball> i'm late.
<zorz> just on time!
<lavaball> gotta take a shower first.
<lavaball> well, stand in my plastic tub next to the sink and wash my balls basically.
<lavaball> poverty is always an adventure.
<SiFuh> HAHAHA
<remiliascarlet> SiFuh: "Cool that remiliascarlet has a very similar diet to me" Not exactly, because you drink beer, eat chilli, and use spices, I don't.
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: It's cool that remiliascarlet has a very similar diet to me.
<remiliascarlet> I joined a BSD forum, and I saw on exactly the 2 posts I said something bad about woke people got "deleted", I almost wanted to delete my account over censorship. Turned out the posts weren't deleted, but it was just Javascript being as buggy as always.
<remiliascarlet> Simply hitting Ctrl+F5 "undeleted" these posts.
<SiFuh> Refresh
<remiliascarlet> Yes.
<remiliascarlet> Typical Javascript developer quality soyware.
<SiFuh> Probably has their jeans on too tight
<ppetrov^> i will dig up some photos of me from high school, wearing tigh jeans
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: I need to search it because it is in Chinese. Did you hear abou tthe food poisoning case in Taiwan?
<SiFuh> zorz: https://s3.amazonaws.com/i.snag.gy/Bo1tnR.jpg I want to buy this. Said I will buy it in April. She says I am being selfish and only thinking about myself even though she is the one that wanted it. I had to laugh because I bought the original tent for her because I don't sleep in tents and I only once slept in it with her last trip. I am happy sleeping in the car or outside on the ground. :-P The
<SiFuh> entire purpose of this is for her. Hah!
<zorz> wait...
<zorz> i was lost in csv
<zorz> ooo ladder ?
<ppetrov^> zorCSVz
<zorz> if you sleep on the ground make sure you eat garlic and smell garlic snakes dont come close
<SiFuh> I like snakes.
<SiFuh> They generally don't attack people unless you do something stupid
<ppetrov^> I am stupid in general, so snakes will generally attack me
<SiFuh> In Australia my sister was complaing that there was a snake near her chickens. She demanded I catch it. So I did. I gave it to her to take away and she said that she will not until tomorrow. So I took the snake to bed with me. It slept under my right arm. Next day mum was so angry and I walked upstairs and handed it to my father and asked him to take it away because I work night shift. He asked why it
<SiFuh> was in my room and not outside. I said the snake is cold blooded and it is winter. You don't leave a snake in a bag in the cold outside.
<zorz> ppetrov^: stop keep saying that you are stupid.
<ppetrov^> huehuehue
<SiFuh> Everyone understood what I had done except for my mother.
<SiFuh> ppetrov^: Only say zorz is :-P
<ppetrov^> zorz, working in academia, feeling stupid is a state of mind
<SiFuh> ppetrov^: When I worked at the univeristy, I learned more in my lunch break with the other teachers than any student had in class
<ppetrov^> too bad i don't go to the cantina anymore for lunch
<ppetrov^> oh, wait... i am not a student anymore
<SiFuh> Tomorrows schedule. Drill a hole in her dash and install a new cigarette lighter port. Wire up the autogate. Take BMX for a spin. Drink beer. If I have time, working on BMX race plate and eel trap
<SiFuh> ppetrov^: I was a lecturer. I learned more in lunch break than the students
<SiFuh> I use to work here
<zorz> the question is: are you patient to teach?
<zorz> :Pp
<ppetrov^> zorz, for me -- it depends on the student. I like being a tutor, as long as I see that the student is interested
<zorz> counterfit students... fake!:Pp
<remiliascarlet> SiFuh: Sounds like those Taiwanese cooks were former Javascript developers.
<zorz> remiliascarlet: hahaha
<dlcusa> SiFuh, faruhar: Sorry for the delayed response re: Xfce. I've not built anything in years, though I recall being put off by these .la things. I was getting ready to check out CRUX 3.7 as time allows, but may just look at OpenBSD instead, though it's been decades since I last was involved with BSD.
<remiliascarlet> Speaking of Javascript developers taking over everything, looks like the whole immutable distro meme has arrived in BSD space: https://github.com/nixos-bsd/nixbsd
<dlcusa> I decided to absorb PAM but that wasn't my initial opinion.
<remiliascarlet> You vill install zi PAM.
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: HAHAHA
<SiFuh> zorz: I was teaching in Thailand. They are eager to learn.
<SiFuh> dlcusa: Your plan is to do what? Because if it is non-gaming and just normal computer stuff like webbrowser, email, some programming/coding or whatever. OpenBSD is fantastic
<SiFuh> [remiliascarlet> You vill install zi PAM. <-- HAHAHA
<zorz> dlcusa: SiFuh: is right... more than fantastic, & you sleep well in the night :)
<SiFuh> Was away discussing the idea of taking 1 and 1/2 weeks off and I drive to Udon Thani (Thailand) and back. It's about a 1 and a 1/2 day drive there and another 1 and 1/2 days back.
<zorz> SiFuh: thats a fucking awesome trip.. when i will come, we visit Thai!
<SiFuh> If you come we will not be driving her car, we will be driving the Jungle truck
<zorz> gas on me, beers & vodkas on you :)
<zorz> cheaper for me :)
<zorz> hahaha
<SiFuh> Are you a heavy drinker?
<zorz> i dont drink.
<SiFuh> So cheaper on me since I am driving
<SiFuh> Thailand has breath tests all over the place
<zorz> oooo you think i let you drive & drink while I am on board ?
<SiFuh> Probably
<zorz> ooo gosh!
<SiFuh> I can mpty a carton and you won't know if I even had a beer
<zorz> ok
<SiFuh> My friends mother won't let anyone drive after a beer but she always asks me to drive even when I am holding the beer
<zorz> remiliascarlet: do you know in cwm if i can togle a window in all workspaces?
<SiFuh> In Malaysia it is even better. I say "Beer!" and I guarantee someone is finding and opening a beer for me.
<SiFuh> zorz: You mean pin?
<zorz> yes
<SiFuh> No idea. Fluxbox can
<zorz> my tv channel as i move and change windows.. dwm did.
<zorz> cwm probably does... need to read.
<SiFuh> sticky <-- maybe
<zorz> togle, sticky, pin.... you got the idea.
<zorz> ooo thank you
<zorz> i do have this, is not this sticky
<SiFuh> Fluxbox is the best
<zorz> i like cwm how is build on top of xenocara. keep in mind not X, not wayland.
<dlcusa> SiFuh,zorz: No gaming, it's my home server doing the 24/7 stuff I need to not worry about so much. I think I last worked with BSD in the '90s, but I doubt it's really changed.
<zorz> dlcusa: dont even think of it.... i changed, and run xterm, vim, emacs, python better than linux. firefox and ffplay
<zorz> SiFuh: window-stick Stick current window to all groups (same as
<zorz> assigning to nogroup).
<zorz> LG
<zorz> LG
<dlcusa> I started in 1972--I'm a CLI kind of guy (but I don't miss punch cards).
<zorz> dlcusa: you will enjoy it!
<SiFuh> dlcusa: I ran a server on Linux for like 4 months, changed to FreeBSD for about 2 years, then changed to OpenBSD and never looked back
<dlcusa> I wasn't feeling any concern other than the amount of relearning curve,
<SiFuh> dlcusa: Not much. It just does what you tell ti to
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<zorz> dlcusa: if you try to install openbsd, is quite straight forward and easy, once you connected and online come hear SiFuh will help you for the final settings.
<zorz> hear=here
<dlcusa> "We appreciate your support." (I doubt anyone here remembers who said this famously)
<remiliascarlet> zorz: For your CWM question, no idea.
<zorz> remiliascarlet: i solved it bind-key 4S-0 window-stick
<remiliascarlet> OpenBSD has the easiest installation process out of all the BSD's I tried, which is Free, Open, and Net, didn't try Dragonfly yet.
<zorz> it shows in all but... i need to cycle, is not on top as i move.
<SiFuh> OpenBSD is just like filtered mineral water
<SiFuh> It is easy, it is clean, it is pure, it make sense and it just works.
<remiliascarlet> OpenBSD is easy on the eyes, quick, and straightforward, FreeBSD is painful to the eyes, moderately fast, and somewhat harder, and NetBSD is painful to the eyes, slow as motherfucking fuck fuck, and somewhere between OpenBSD and FreeBSD in terms of ease of installation.
<remiliascarlet> I mean the installation process.
<zorz> after last night many people will move to freebsd.
<SiFuh> Linux is like the water in a toilet bowl after zorz finally did a dump after his tight jeans held it in all day.
<zorz> SiFuh: hahaha fuck off!
<SiFuh> :-P
<remiliascarlet> Linux installation process is either "depending on the distro", or Calamaris.
<dlcusa> Linux started quite well. I think certain large organizations moved to corrupt this surprise competition from free software.
<SiFuh> dlcusa: 100% agree
<SiFuh> If only Linus was a Theo
<SiFuh> #crux-social-we-convert-you-to-bsd
<remiliascarlet> Feels like CRUX is the final Linux distro before you abopt a BSD.
<remiliascarlet> s/abopt/adopt
<SiFuh> Fucking Linux-PAM
<SiFuh> let one developer sneak in Linux-PAM and before you know it systemd and the Windows Registery will be added to core.
<zorz> all of you are right
<dlcusa> I always say, "Support organizations (businesses) you want to remain organized (in business)."
<remiliascarlet> The BSD's contribute lots of code that companies thanklessly take, that's what Theo even said as it being a good thing.
<remiliascarlet> Makes sense for an article written in March 2018.
<SiFuh> in/From*
<remiliascarlet> I see lots of hostile communist takeovers within Linux in recent years, whereas the BSD's tend to be a lot more friently towards the business world.
<SiFuh> I see commies everywhere
<remiliascarlet> SiFuh: "in/From*" An article written From March 2018?
<SiFuh> Yes because updated in 2013
<remiliascarlet> Off by 10 years.
<SiFuh> No I mean if it was published and never touched in 2013 then written in 2013 is fine
<SiFuh> But it was updated so we say from 2013
<remiliascarlet> It was published in 2018, updated in 2023.
<SiFuh> Published on 2018-03-13. Modified on 2023-10-26.
<zorz> everybody agrees, systemd and pam are problematic. no one takes action.... linux is dead.
<SiFuh> The only good PAM is Pam from Archer. Pam Poovey!
<zorz> haha
<remiliascarlet> zorz: Many of the Lunix commies will even jump in defense mode and namecall you if you cliticise shitstainD, PAM, Gayland, and so on.
<remiliascarlet> s/cliticise/criticise
<SiFuh> I love Pam!!!!!!!
<zorz> Anderson!!!!!!!1
<SiFuh> No
<SiFuh> Pam Poovey!
<remiliascarlet> Speaking of communists, JewTube really made it impossible to watch videos via a non-soydev web UI. Long live MPV!
<SiFuh> If Pam Poovey was a real person, I'd have married her
<remiliascarlet> She's fat.
<SiFuh> Care not. I like her personality
<remiliascarlet> "ARE YOU FATSHAMING!?" Yes.
<SiFuh> Aren't ou fat?
<SiFuh> ou/you
<remiliascarlet> Was.
<SiFuh> Now you are fatter?
<remiliascarlet> Then I took care of myself, and I'm no longer fat.
<remiliascarlet> But even back when I was fat I would openly fatshame people including myself, because unlike the far left, I actually recognize it's a problem.
<SiFuh> Yeah but Pam can fight a buffalo and win!
<SiFuh> She is hard core and can fight pretty much everything and run and jump and kick and punch
<SiFuh> She ain't no lazy fat fuck
<zorz> you are crazy!
<zorz> both of you!
<remiliascarlet> No, I'm remiliascarlet.
<SiFuh> I am realistic
<SiFuh> zorz: I am reckon if remiliascarlet and I were going jungle and we were cussing and cursing and talking shit my wife will feel left out. HAHAHA
<remiliascarlet> You remember I was looking at OpenIndiana for ZFS, right? Forget that, it's has by far the slowest package manager ever!
<SiFuh> Yes you said
<remiliascarlet> And no support.
<SiFuh> Thanks for reminding me
<SiFuh> I have always wanted to know that... twice
<SiFuh> Good thing you reminded me, I might have forgotten
<SiFuh> ... twice
<remiliascarlet> I've been using NetBSD this whole evening in a VM, and I have to say it's actually pretty good.
<SiFuh> Cool
<farkuhar> remiliascarlet: refugees from CRUX might go somewhere other than a BSD, though. I know at least one person who switched to KISS Linux, and then there's emmett1 and his Venom distro.
<zorz> is net bsd faster than freebsd ?
<SiFuh> farkuhar: emmett1 uses CRUX
<remiliascarlet> NetBSD is somewhere between FreeBSD and OpenBSD when it comes to performance.
<zorz> crux is nice... but is not simple the core installation....
<remiliascarlet> But it's extremely minimal.
<SiFuh> Yeah, because some fuckwit installed Linux Pam into core
<remiliascarlet> Even more minimal than OpenBSD.
<remiliascarlet> Still not as minimal as 9front though.
<SiFuh> Good movie Plan 9
<SiFuh> I usually watch it each year
<dlcusa> Plan9 should have become huge (the Os, not the movie).
<SiFuh> Plan 9 was so good it would have dominated the mobile phone market
<remiliascarlet> 9front feels absolutely empty. So empty, I can't even get my house to work.
<remiliascarlet> s/house/mouse
<zorz> hahaha
<SiFuh> HAHAHAHA
<zorz> hahaaha
<SiFuh> HAHAHAHA
<SiFuh> dlcusa: Remember when a mouse didn't exist and we used a turtle?
<dlcusa> I am not remembering a "turtle". Can you describe it?
<remiliascarlet> It's a 6 letter word.
<SiFuh> Arrow keys and a cross on the screen
<dlcusa> This is not ringing a bell.
<SiFuh> dlcusa: must be too young
<dlcusa> When I began my move from IBM mainframes to UNIX in 1989, X was already coming on strong (just not on the systems I was learning on).
<zorz> dlcusa: openbsd is for you
<SiFuh> In 1988 we were using Apple and the cross on the screen we would move up and down and left and right with the arrow keys we called a turtle.
<zorz> dlcusa: go to https://openports.pl/ and check if all the applications you use are in obsd.
<SiFuh> dlcusa: ignore zorz he's not ripe yet
<remiliascarlet> He's a lemon wearing tight jeans.
* SiFuh high fives remiliascarlet
<zorz> remiliascarlet: i have a paste for you
<zorz> hahaha;
* remiliascarlet high fives back so hard, she accidentally smashes SiFuh to the ground
<remiliascarlet> zorz: "hahaha;" Thanks for the paste.
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: No joke as I was typing it I wanted to say /m high fives remiliascarlet so fast, she doesn't lift her hand and slaps her in the face.
<zorz> remiliascarlet: no i sent it by notice, i was polite not to bother SiFuh's eyes!
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: I want to try to steam beef. So tomorrow I plan to
<SiFuh> Well today actually
<zorz> remiliascarlet: i nailed the loop. green colors, active window red. total number of windows... RAM TEMP BAT TIME
<SiFuh> zorz
<SiFuh> show me
<SiFuh> zorz: I might make a yo-yo from wood
<zorz> i ve got it for linux boys as well
<SiFuh> Ugly
<SiFuh> zorz: Thought you said has colours and stuff
<zorz> it has
<zorz> green
<SiFuh> You must be colour blind
<SiFuh> I only see words
<zorz> red for active window...
<SiFuh> Dude!
<SiFuh> Screenshot it
<zorz> dont have screenshot thing
<SiFuh> Use your scrotum
<zorz> wait... i will find a screenshot thing
<SiFuh> I mean scrot
<zorz> wait i go buy cigarettes
<zorz> desktop_numbers="$desktop_numbers%{F#FF0000}$i%{F-} "
<SiFuh> Why? Does scrot need cigarettes?
<zorz> this is the red
<zorz> lemonbar -d -g "1920x20" -B "#000000" -F "#00FF00" -U "#FFFF00" -f "-*-fixed-*-r-*-*-15-*-*-*-*-*-*-*"
<zorz> this is blck background green foreground
<zorz> oooo remiliascarlet change the geometry
<zorz> she knows, can do it.
<dlcusa> Sometimes I wonder how much further tech would be is the Plan 9 paradigm had been commonplace when the NSFNET became the Internet.
<dlcusa> s/ is / if /
<SiFuh> dlcusa: I agree
<zorz> https://dpaste.com/HAEFHJWNB << linux zorzbar needs lm-sensors.
<SiFuh> zorz?
<SiFuh> SCREENSHOT IT
<zorz> be back, kiosk will close and i will screen shot it for you
<SiFuh> Take you time, might be good for your health
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: Do you smoke?
<SiFuh> If I remember we have a Japanese brand that starts with M.
<SiFuh> Probably made in Philippines though
<zorz> SiFuh: photo by pigeon mail
<zorz> scrot and bullshit... i took a pic with the mobile device :)
<zorz> haha
<zorz> need to set up scrot.
<zorz> actually the color set to red was a clever way to save me from unecessary calls.
<SiFuh> No pidgeons
<zorz> from runbox.com to gmx.com
<zorz> i go to linux, install scrot
<zorz> bbl when script is done.
<zorz> script = scrot
<zorz> scrot script.
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<zorz_box> SiFuh https://pasteboard.co/OKAPITiwOOG0.png satisfied ?
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<SiFuh> No
<SiFuh> Debian suck
<zorz> hahahaha
<zorz> man.... its a test machine... i really do not care
<zorz> this scrot thing.... look how many dependancies and i have disables recommends and suggests.
<zorz> over there no BAT info, has no BAT
<SiFuh> zorz: Oh I love it! It is the most beautiful thing I ever saw
<SiFuh> Show me in OpenBSD
<SiFuh> Here, pkg_add scrot. Let it install whatever. Then pkg_delete scrot. After scrot gone then pkg_delete -a. And everything you needed for scrot will be removed too
<SiFuh> I'd like to CRUX to have that feature
<SiFuh> But you can't trust CRUX because they have linux-PAM in core.
<zorz> here is nice
<zorz> wpa_supplicant uses ipv6 by default... interesting
<zorz> i see the quit of the box.
<SiFuh> I think wpa_supplicant should be included in ifconfig or ip
<zorz> gnome and kde fucked linux
<SiFuh> No
<zorz> gnome needs systemd
<SiFuh> Linux fucked linux
<zorz> correct!
<SiFuh> Linus* fucked Linux
<zorz> the other guy that gave seatd... so nice
<zorz> they do not use it.
<SiFuh> He should have maintained strict control and opened a distro
<zorz> if i want a linux with systemd, and xdg.... i install windows play some xbox aswell
<zorz> who paste before it was you or rem about bsd linux.... i stuck of the person saying... and DRM in the kernel!
<zorz> how much in that kernel... kernel does not work properly... works of hacks on the code.
<zorz> kernel i do not think is stable.
<zorz> not an expert.... but.. common sense says.... no linux.
<SiFuh> I think I need ppetrov^ to transale what you said
<zorz> hahaha
<zorz> you did my mood.
<SiFuh> I shoult get salt and garlic
<SiFuh> should*
<zorz> pizza with garlic olive oil on top and chili flakes on top.
<zorz> left overs for breakfast....
<zorz> the best breakfast in town!
<SiFuh> I make everything for the Pizza
<SiFuh> Except the peperoni and salami. I just buy that and slice it
<zorz> jamon
<zorz> jamon, green peppers, mushrooms and oregano
<SiFuh> Yes
<SiFuh> You can't see it I guess under all the cheese
<zorz> We agree on this one!
<SiFuh> But he have a lot more under it than that
<zorz> and the success is on the homemade tomato sauce
<SiFuh> And the most important are Anchovies, fresh chilli and sauerkraut
<SiFuh> Yes, I make mine with tomato puree, chilli, mixed herbs, garlic, curry and onions
<zorz> anchovies, the salted one that melts in the oven!
<SiFuh> And a touch of apple cider vinegar
<SiFuh> zorz: YES!
<zorz> InDEED!
<SiFuh> Pineapple?
<zorz> no do not like sweet food.
<zorz> pineapple for dessert
<SiFuh> Okay so basically my recipe without pineapple
<zorz> when i will be there!
<SiFuh> The bread is also made by me thanks to beerman.
<SiFuh> He helped me a lot on baking
<zorz> you see nice.
<SiFuh> He gave good advice about baking bread but not pizza and I picked up tricks from him
<SiFuh> He said my Pizza has too much topping.
<SiFuh> Hell no...... There is never too much topping on a pizza!
<zorz> we in Europe, like lite things
<SiFuh> I make you one pizza and you will be full from the first slice
<SiFuh> If you eat 4. You will need water all night
<zorz> i you know what i am thinking now... make irssi 2 panes, one small on top to see messages on other channels aswell. not joins parts just messages.
<SiFuh> When you bring your laptop here, I will see it
<zorz> any idea.. for ready script? or homemade again.
<SiFuh> You will need perl scripts if I remember correctly
<zorz> yes
<SiFuh> I don't bother
<SiFuh> I insult enough people on irssi :-P
<zorz> i have 2 running the urlgrab.pl did not touch. and a notify.pl that i touched.
<zorz> hahahaha
<zorz> you dont hhahahahahahaha
<SiFuh> Some of those scripts are like 20 years old
<SiFuh> os[OpenBSD 7.4 - ] up[ 11 days, 4 hours, 51 minutes] cpu[, MHz ( bogomips)] mem[ 0/ MB (0%)] video[ at 3840x1080 (32 bits)]
<zorz> you know where my run-mailcap opened it... i am impressed....
<zorz> in vim
<zorz> and i did :saveas sifuh-irs.txt
<zorz> ok needs nohup.
<SiFuh> Ignore the sitting one
<SiFuh> I should get this to roll under the truck
<zorz> you sleep on the ground in the jungle and you need this thing.... be a man... on the floor!
<zorz> hahaha
<SiFuh> Old age coming dude
<zorz> J Lo on the floor, if you are an animal on the floor
<SiFuh> I am talking about climbing under the car, not sleeping on the ground
<zorz> J Lo + Pitbull
<SiFuh> Yuck
<zorz> party people
<zorz> send it to your brother that is the way the world goes round
<zorz> around
<SiFuh> He hates music
<zorz> who can hate music?
<SiFuh> My brother
<zorz> not a good person
<SiFuh> He read the bible and took it word for word literally.
<SiFuh> Now he hates music and thinks the Earth is flat.
<SiFuh> And there is some place called Hell and when we die we go to heaven.
<SiFuh> He didn't read the bible very well I think.
<SiFuh> Besides he refuses to listen to the original translations of the words in Greek or Aramaic
<SiFuh> Apparently a homosexual authoritarian king wrote the perfect bible in English.
<SiFuh> For example. I asked him his opinion about the scarlet whore
<SiFuh> SiFuh: "Who do you think is the scarlet whore?" and he replied "Do you still believe that we live on a spinning ball in space?"
<SiFuh> And that is where the conversation ended
<zorz> oo god, he needs a therapist
<SiFuh> Oh God! When he meets God!
<SiFuh> He is an extremist
<SiFuh> Everything he does he takes it to the extreme
<SiFuh> If you understand the bible that is basically a form of demonic possession or at least a door open to them.
<zorz> zorz:/home/zorz:45$ run-mailcap --debug https://dpaste.com/8UQ88978Z.txt
<zorz> Detected by: mime.types file
<zorz> Determined mime type: text/plain
<zorz> this is nice.... this is very nice
<SiFuh> demonic possession
<SiFuh> Weird thing to think is nice
<zorz> no need to go to dpaste... i can read in vim... and save.
<farkuhar> SiFuh: in CRUX you cannot have the equivalent of OpenBSD's pkg_delete -a, because our ports are not binary packages but instead customized for each installation (i.e., they might link to something that's not officially listed in the "Depends on" line). The best you can do is pkgfoster, but even then you have to be aware of possible soft dependency relationships.
<SiFuh> farkuhar: Actually you can, they put flags on their ports binary or compiled
<farkuhar> If they ever merge my prt-get code for handling softdeps, then pkgfoster will have something more to work with. For now, it's up to the user to know what's really required by the ports currently installed.
<SiFuh> farkuhar: In fact it is so cool. I can compile a port and its dependencies automatically and after install I can run pkg_delete -a and it will delete the ports only used for compilation of that port.
<zorz> so i go to .mailcap and i change this text/plain; /usr/local/bin/vim '%s'; needsterminal | to: text/plain; nohup /usr/local/bin/vim '%s' > /dev/null 2>&1 &; needsterminal
<SiFuh> revdep and prt-get fsearch are the coolest features in CRUX. I wish OpenBSD had them
<SiFuh> As for everything OpenBSD rains supreme
<farkuhar> SiFuh: you mean OpenBSD is like a typhoon?
<SiFuh> I don't know what is typhoon
<farkuhar> Oh, maybe it was supposed to be "reigns supreme"
<SiFuh> All I know is OpenBSD has a erally advanced package manager but missing some features CRUX has
<farkuhar> "rains supreme" would mean boatloads of precipitation.
<SiFuh> reigns
<SiFuh> Let's blame zorz
<farkuhar> Let's blame the late hour. Why are you still awake, anyway?
<SiFuh> Preparing the wiring fpr tomorrow
<SiFuh> Well today
<SiFuh> I am a stickler for correct wiring
<zorz> ok guys is on me!
<zorz> Do not forget LG
<SiFuh> Fucking zorz
<zorz> farkuhar: talking about his schedule... i lost count when he sleeps or maybe he does not sleep lately
<zorz> maube SiFuh is on drugs!
<SiFuh> I like to sleep at 22:00 and wake at 04:00 or 05:00
<farkuhar> zorz: he's in the jungle, right? Sleep has a different quality when you're closer to the elements.
<zorz> farkuhar: correct, this is what happen when i left London and came back to my village in Greece 850m height
<zorz> ooo man, you sleep and you rest.
<SiFuh> zorz: Stay awake because you are afraid of falling?
<zorz> you do not wake up tired!
<SiFuh> zorz: You want the secret to not wake up tired? I learned it in Kyrgyzstan
<zorz> nohup does not work... no problem save and open again.
<zorz> ?
<SiFuh> ?
<ppetrov^> ?
<zorz> # text/plain; nohup /usr/local/bin/vim '%s' > /dev/null 2>&1 &;
<zorz> text/plain; /usr/local/bin/vim '%s'; needsterminal
<SiFuh> Fucking zorz
<SiFuh> Ruines everything
<zorz> as i said my run-mailcap open dpaste in vim
<zorz> hahaha
<zorz> ???
<SiFuh> I don't know if anyone cares
<zorz> ok
<zorz> whats the secret?
<SiFuh> Jump out of bed and take a shower and you will be awake
<SiFuh> Colder is better
<SiFuh> Soon as you hear that alarm you spring out of bed like a chicken on steroids
<zorz> i do that.
<SiFuh> Me too
<SiFuh> In Kyrgyzstan.....
<SiFuh> Not here. Hahaha
<zorz> ok......... I pass
<SiFuh> I do it sometimes but for important shit
<zorz> say that to lavaball
<SiFuh> If I know I am wiring my cousin-in-laws truck I will sleep in
<lavaball> yes, my dick is huge.
<SiFuh> lavaball but allow it first
<lavaball> anythign else?
<SiFuh> but? Must*
<zorz> lavaball: morning shower
<zorz> lavaball: SiFuh: says... wakes you up
<SiFuh> My screen is shaking
<lavaball> if it's cold. yes.
<SiFuh> His dick bumped it when he was summed by the zorz
<lavaball> activated the immune system i've read.
<SiFuh> sommoned*
<lavaball> you drunk?
<SiFuh> Me?
<SiFuh> No I am SiFuh
<ppetrov^> lavaball, what activated the immune system?
<zorz> cold shower he would need a gps to find his dick
<SiFuh> Haha
<zorz> hahaha
<lavaball> ppetrov^, cold showers are supposed to.
<lavaball> not if you are vaxxed. then you don't have an immuen system anymore.
<lavaball> you'll have cancer though.
<lavaball> lots of it.
<ppetrov^> lavaball, whatever
<lavaball> ppetrov^, you a puberty girl, or what's with the "whatever"?
<SiFuh> lavaball: When I lived in the jungle two years. My favorite thing was to jump in a river early in the morning. The cold was shocking but it was refreshing. Energized for the day!
<lavaball> if you want to be gay you can do that on your own time.
<zorz> puberty girl?
<ppetrov^> no, i'm an immunologist
<ppetrov^> that's why: whatever
<lavaball> then why not correct me then. i said it was only what i read.
<SiFuh> zorz
<ppetrov^> because people like you are hopeless. You believe what fits your views already
<SiFuh> Did you ever try?
<zorz> ?
<ppetrov^> now tell me how you did your own research
<SiFuh> Jump out of bed without thinking and take a cold shower
<lavaball> ppetrov^, okay. makes tottal sense. i mean i ask you to correct me, but i only believe what fits my views.
<lavaball> ppetrov^, you just gratuaded from retard school?
<zorz> Jump out of bed and take a hot shower like the do in Japana many times.
<lavaball> i just said i read it and when you asked again i said "supposed to".
<lavaball> that's all i had.
<SiFuh> zorz: Cold!
<ppetrov^> aha, ok
<SiFuh> Cold is heaps refreshing that hot
<ppetrov^> where did you read it?
<zorz> never, not even in my wildest dreams as Tina Turner used to say.
<ppetrov^> and, please, refrain yourself from insults, like calling me a retart
<lavaball> okay, i don't know. that was like 20 years ago. not the financial times. that i'm s ure of. just some random list of thigns good for you.
<SiFuh> zorz try it. You may become an addict
<zorz> ok i will
<lavaball> so? cold showers in the morning no good then?
<lavaball> seriously, this could have been over in like 2 minutes. why you dragging this out?
<ppetrov^> cold showers are good for vasculature and heart, as long as you do not push yourself too hard
<zorz> lavaball: check Putin man. Putin starts his day with cold shower!
<lavaball> ppetrov^, and the immune system? no benefit?
<ppetrov^> i didn't say that
<lavaball> yeah, you have me completely confused then.
<zorz> hahahaa
<ppetrov^> it's not bad, of course
<lavaball> so what was wrong about the thing i read?
<ppetrov^> lavaball, maybe you should read more carefully
<ppetrov^> you said vaccines destroy the immune system and give cancer
<ppetrov^> that's what i pointed out to be not true
<SiFuh> Huh?
<lavaball> that is no accurate, of course. i didn't say i read that either.
<zorz> I only listen to ppetrov^ cause he is professional!
<lavaball> though what i did read is that the vaccines (ccp virus kind) destroy the t cells, which fight cancer. so they don't give you cancer directly, but they stop your body frim fighting it.
<ppetrov^> and, since i have been down similar road with SiFuh, and I would like to be in friendly terms with people here, I said: whatever.
<ppetrov^> lavaball, that's completely not true
<lavaball> friendly schmiendly. i bash heads regularly with sifuh. who cares?
<ppetrov^> and it's the cytotoxic T cells, or CD8 that among other things instruct cancer cells to commit suicide
<SiFuh> lavaball and I fight a lot
<ppetrov^> by programmed cell death, or apoptosis
zorz is now known as zorz_schmiendly
<ppetrov^> zorz, here can tell you on the meaning of the word
* zorz_schmiendly la la la
<ppetrov^> i'm done
<ppetrov^> bye
<zorz_schmiendly> αποπτωσις
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<lavaball> did he just faggot out on us?
<SiFuh> :-( I think so
zorz_schmiendly is now known as zorz
<lavaball> i'm not even sure why.
<lavaball> doesn't he like the word "schmiendly"?
<SiFuh> I think it was zorz's fault. He changed his name
<lavaball> yeah.
<SiFuh> Fucking zorz.
<lavaball> no. fucking faggot immunologist.
<lavaball> i would have very much been interested in hearing what he had to say.
<lavaball> well, reading.
<lavaball> but no.
<lavaball> he had to put his butt plug back in and go back into his gay dungeon.
<SiFuh> Hmm, I thought he was a biologist anyway
<lavaball> gimp retard.
<lavaball> who the fuck cares.
<lavaball> it would have been interesting.
<SiFuh> 05:24:09 [ppetrov^> man, i'm a stupid biologist, have no experience with these things
<lavaball> immunology is part of that.
<lavaball> we'll allow it.
<SiFuh> Yeah but...
<SiFuh> Okay
<SiFuh> Sad you scared him away though.
<lavaball> i don't put on the gay gloves for the faggot.s
<lavaball> especially not the ones who think to know something.
<SiFuh> Understood
<lavaball> and then they don't even share it!
<lavaball> like upsets me greatly.
<lavaball> well, not really.
<lavaball> but if i could be upset, this would do it!
<SiFuh> I thought I upset you the most
<lavaball> nah, not really.
<SiFuh> Is ppetrov^ competing with me?
<lavaball> especially since you said you hadn't sind 2009.
<lavaball> since
<lavaball> nah. it's just annoying. i wanted to hear his perspective.
<lavaball> and then he just leaves.
<SiFuh> 2009? When I quit working for Mafia?
<SiFuh> lavaball: I'd have to admit, I also have this issue here. But not with internet, in person.
<lavaball> you have your change
<lavaball> and your socks.
<lavaball> what do i have?!
<SiFuh> I have my beer
<lavaball> oh right, it's getting warmer. i have to start thinking about protecting the 10 year old from the rapists. though so far no extra migrants here. seems pretty safe still. also the housing thign isn't done. so maybe then.
<SiFuh> So you got the job
<lavaball> nah, i do it for free of course.
<SiFuh> Still a job
<lavaball> let's call it an investment.
<SiFuh> I remember when my friend put his daughter alone in a Taxi to send home. She was like 5 years old. I took a photo of the Taxi and ran downstairs. I insulted the parents on the way down and before i could jump into the taxi the father said "He's my father" HAHAHA
<lavaball> haha.
<lavaball> okay.
<SiFuh> farkuhar: I still have an issue with two wires
<SiFuh> farkuhar: https://s3.amazonaws.com/i.snag.gy/NeQdYy.jpg I can't understand why these two wires are connected to the CH1 and COM for the receiver.
<SiFuh> It makes no sense. If they were live the reciever would be friend.
<SiFuh> Now if there was a secondary receiver then sure that could work, but how does the secondary receiver receive power? It is 12 volts.
<SiFuh> So now, I want to freaking know what that is.
<SiFuh> friend? Fried*
<SiFuh> farkuhar: Oh, and that isn't what I am working on tomorrow. That's my gate.
<SiFuh> Today*
<zorz> Wayland gate.
<SiFuh> I will not Tim Bierman touch my gate.
<SiFuh> HAHAHAHA
<SiFuh> Unless it was a loaf of bread
<farkuhar> zorz has CSV as his hobby, and meanwhile I'm continually revising the Markdown landing page for the prt-utils repo. Sorry for not paying attention to the rewiring discussion.
<zorz> farkuhar: csv came up on the way, python is my hobby
<zorz> hahaha
<zorz> Wayland gate!
<SiFuh> Gayland
<zorz> SiFuh you knwo that we do not use X ?
<farkuhar> anyway, I gave a shout-out to ppetrov^ in the latest README.md and revdep.1, but if he wants his name removed, I can do that too.
<SiFuh> zorz: I can't, I am married.
<zorz> if myself back in linux, i will use wayland.
<SiFuh> farkuhar: So he is similar to me ;-)
<zorz> farkuhar: leave the name!
<SiFuh> zorz: Why? I asked farkuhar to remove my name and he did.
<SiFuh> zorz: If ppetrov^ wants the same then sure.
<farkuhar> https://git.crux.nu/tools/prt-utils#hisory-of-rewrites is the section where he's cited.
<SiFuh> farkuhar: Yeah, I will remove that too
<zorz> farkuhar: markdown are those files that i do: man file :Ppp
<SiFuh> farkuhar: Some people know they are the best, and we don't need anyone to confirm it. Hahaha
<SiFuh> farkuhar: I'd also tell you on the spot to remove it
<zorz> prt-get is amazing!
<SiFuh> ppetrov^ = a former slackware user
<SiFuh> How is that?
<SiFuh> You replace his name with that
<SiFuh> That way you can keep your text and not sell out ppetrov^
<farkuhar> How is he being sold out? The Slackalaxy blog posts are some of the first hits you get if you search for "CRUX review"
<SiFuh> His name
<SiFuh> zorz?
<zorz> i like this page... first time is see
<SiFuh> Can you stop copying and pasting the same shit like a retarded child?
<zorz> SiFuh is bothered ?
<zorz> again? :Pp
<SiFuh> It pisses me off greatly
<SiFuh> Why the hell did you need to copy the exact same URL farkuhar posted?
* zorz sends prozac to SiFuh
<SiFuh> It's really dumb dude
<zorz> i did bravo!
<SiFuh> I don't take drugs dude
<SiFuh> Johnny Bravo is Zorz!!!!!!!!!!!!!
<zorz> I liked it... I have to say Bravo!
<SiFuh> Wish ppetrov^ was here
<zorz> your friend lavaball upsets him.
<zorz> :Pp
<SiFuh> farkuhar: So, the ide of replacing his name with a former or a current slackware user would be a way around it.
<SiFuh> lavaball upsets everyone. It is in his blood dude,
<SiFuh> ppetrov^ could have used /ignore for a few minutes. I do that some times when you are talking shit zorz
<farkuhar> SiFuh: all right, I will remove the nick if he prefers to put some distance between his IRC identity and his Slackalaxy website.
<SiFuh> It is up to him ultimately farkuhar. Best to discuss it with ppetrov^
<SiFuh> It's like that SYSLINUX stuff. I just don't want my name in anything. I don't need credit. I know how fucking good I am.
<SiFuh> :-P
<lavaball> gay.
<lavaball> i need a xmpp client for ios 8.
<SiFuh> Does one even exist?
<lavaball> i don't have a phone.
<lavaball> does that anser your question?
<SiFuh> Me too
<lavaball> my 50kgs are here though.
<SiFuh> Actually I think my broken phone under warranty is being returned to me after I insulted the store for taking longer than 2 months to collect it from customs.
<lavaball> i really hope my half breed is coming through for me.
<zorz> farkuhar: SiFuh: I think its better by his name - My name is Petar a
<zorz> farkuhar: i think Petar from slackalaxy is better.
<lavaball> xmpp can do video calls?!?!?!?!
<SiFuh> zorz: I wrote drivers for FreeBSD, LINUX and OpenBSD. My name is not recorded.
<lavaball> yes, the herd punctuation was necesasry.
<farkuhar> SiFuh, zorz: sorry to hijack your Xorg versus Xenocara discussion. I'll go outside and clear my head from all these Markdown revisions, letting you return to your OpenBSD fan fest.
<lavaball> that's why everything breaks everywhere all the time.
<zorz> SiFuh: if its to be mentionned... i do not know... whatever.
<SiFuh> farkuhar: Zorz and me? A discussion? Dude can't even read.
<zorz> farkuhar: enjoy!
<zorz> SiFuh: seriously i cannot read ?
<SiFuh> I can paste 200 solutions to your problem and you are still whining like a little bitch it ain't working because you never read a single thing remiliascarlet or I posted to help you. Because YOU don't fucking read shit.
<zorz> when this took place ?
<SiFuh> Some shit is so simple. I tell you and you don't even seem to notice
<SiFuh> And you repeat the same mistakes over and over and over and over and over and over again.
<SiFuh> I even use capital letters sometimes
<SiFuh> And you still don't fucking read what I said!
<zorz> ok
<SiFuh> I even say shit like you are fucking stupid, you are a retard, you moron and you seem to just ignore that I am saying
<SiFuh> rsd versus sd
<SiFuh> That was insance
<SiFuh> I wanted to punch you in the face like a thousand times
<SiFuh> You fucking moron. SD not RSD you twat!
<SiFuh> Hahah
<zorz> it was allready done man...
<SiFuh> Not then
<SiFuh> I even explained it to you
<SiFuh> Waste of time
<zorz> sometimes... when tired.. the truth is no patience.
<SiFuh> Told you the difference and then the follwing day you are still using RSD!
<SiFuh> Dude! I ain't tired. I just want to punch you
<zorz> anyway the good thing is, like today... first ask rem if knows cause she is using now cwm. she said no. next thing man cwm, man cwmrc
<SiFuh> zorz?
<SiFuh> English only
<zorz> you see tired now.
<SiFuh> No, I see beer now
<zorz> man... its early morning there
<zorz> or uou did not sleep ?
<SiFuh> Almost 5 am?
<SiFuh> Yeah I slept already
<zorz> this week i fucked up, did not do csv. tomorrow i hava to catch up.
<SiFuh> Today was funny
<SiFuh> I want to book a hotle for 14th of June
<zorz> which part.... lots of fun today.
<SiFuh> Wife... "Why?"
<zorz> hotel
<SiFuh> Me "I just want to"
<SiFuh> Wife "What is so special about 14th of June?"
<SiFuh> Me "Wedding anniversary"
<SiFuh> HAHAHAHAHA
<SiFuh> Should have seen the face after that!
<zorz> hahaha
<zorz> you drive her mad!
<SiFuh> My mother remembers dates and so do I
<SiFuh> Then she says "Well what is my birthday?"
<SiFuh> First December 1977 year of the snake.
<SiFuh> Then she shut her mouth
<zorz> never understand the chinese years, snake rabbit mouse
<SiFuh> I don't even celebrate birthday or Ching Chong zodiac shit
<SiFuh> zorz: lavaball: Here is a good one for you
<zorz> ?
<zorz> howcome?
<SiFuh> Brother says to me "Hey, I am the year of the dog" Me "So what?" Brother "You know what that means?" Me "No" Brother "I am hung (Big hanging penis) like a dog!" Me "Hmm, I am year of the horse"
<lavaball> pig for me.
<lavaball> and it fits too.
* zorz Year of the Earth Horse
<SiFuh> I'd agree with lavaball They do fit in ways
<SiFuh> zorz: and I are same
<zorz> fucking bitch SiFuh you are '78 ?
<SiFuh> You didn't know?
<zorz> no
<zorz> month?
<SiFuh> We tease you offline about how childish you are and I say he is the same year as me
<zorz> who is We ?
<SiFuh> They all think you are like in your teens by your words
<SiFuh> Other CRUXers
<zorz> ofcourse, I am young!
<zorz> CRUXers are old!
<zorz> hahaha
<SiFuh> I am one of the original CRUXers dude
<SiFuh> I was there when CRUX was founded
<zorz> SiFuh: month?
<SiFuh> 8
<zorz> too young
<SiFuh> Actually I am the only original guy from the CRUX founding to still be here
<SiFuh> And the owner/creator and me fought more than lavaball and I
<zorz> lavaball: is ok guy
<SiFuh> liarballs?
<SiFuh> I actually like him. Not GAY!
<zorz> not good
<zorz> gay=good
<SiFuh> gay is not good
<SiFuh> "full of joy, merry; light-hearted, carefree;" also "wanton, lewd, lascivious"
<zorz> superman movie. 1950 something what your mother told you
<zorz> gay=good
<SiFuh> My mother?
<SiFuh> Superman and the Mole men (1951)
<zorz> yes
<SiFuh> Gay = happy
<zorz> yes
<zorz> gay happy
<SiFuh> They fucking stole GAY then they stold our RAINBOW
<SiFuh> FUCKING hell
<SiFuh> Actually did you ever notice something about the US?
<zorz> yes
<zorz> you see... i read!
<SiFuh> When did racism return as a thing?
<SiFuh> Wasn't that Obama?
<SiFuh> When did homo marriages become a thing?
<SiFuh> Wasn't that Obama?
<zorz> now i was thinking what to watch.... and last night did not watch the uncanny.
<SiFuh> And I remember saying to my mum "Give them an inch, they will take a mile" and mum says "What does that mean?" I said "They want your children" She laughed and the she stopped and not today you see it
<SiFuh> zorz: You didn't watch it!
<zorz> SiFuh: automn, i will bring up a site... taking all videos for mind awareness and global elite translated with subs in greek.
<SiFuh> It's freaking awesome
<SiFuh> automn?
<SiFuh> English dude
<zorz> SiFuh: last night when ready to watch... the lz thing came up.... and i was having fun with that.
<SiFuh> Watch Uncanny
<SiFuh> It is nothing what you think it is
<zorz> tonight, in an hour
<SiFuh> Slow... boring but fucking hell the ending
<zorz> do not tell me anything.
<SiFuh> anything!
<zorz> greek habbits
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: Your teeth cleaner on the meat diet? Or you still need that fake shit tooth paste crap?
<SiFuh> zorz: You come here, you have no habbits
<SiFuh> Although, you can smoke in my room.
<zorz> i do not smoke in where I live, anymore
<SiFuh> zorz?
<zorz> SiFuh: ?
<SiFuh> You will smoke where I tell you to smoke!
<zorz> exterior only I smoke!
<SiFuh> So you smoke outside your mouth and not inside?
<zorz> from the nose!
<SiFuh> I wonder about
<SiFuh> you
<zorz> curiosity killed the cat
<SiFuh> Don't tell remiliascarlet
<SiFuh> She has a male pussy
<SiFuh> A Tom
<zorz> Shall I start getting worry about you ?
<SiFuh> Why?
<zorz> what is this now ?
<zorz> dont tell... and has a ...
<SiFuh> It's a word in English
<zorz> me to to tell... whitequark will tell.
<SiFuh> Why (Adverb) = For what purpose, reason, or cause; with what intention, justification, or motive.
<zorz> this is sophisticated for me.
<SiFuh> how?
<SiFuh> zorz, it doesn't matter if it is you, serpente, or remiliascarlet. I ain't fucking your butt hole.
<SiFuh> There is more to life than your dirty mind
<zorz> what?
<zorz> are you ok?
<SiFuh> zorz, it doesn't matter if it is you, serpente, or remiliascarlet. I ain't fucking your butt hole.
<SiFuh> There is more to life than your dirty mind
<SiFuh> I repeated because you didn't read the first time
<zorz> dirty mind?
<SiFuh> Be pretty cool if serpente and remiliascarlet hooked up
<zorz> i really do not care
<SiFuh> he may finally accept Japanese martial arts is superior to Chinese
<SiFuh> He is Chinese trained and I am Japanese trained
<SiFuh> zorz: You need a pet
<zorz> I care not
<SiFuh> About?
<zorz> for everything you said
<SiFuh> Lotus Espirit?
<zorz> Esprite du Lac
<SiFuh> You care now?
<zorz> not really
<SiFuh> Are you dpressed again?
<zorz> I am good.
<SiFuh> You should get married
<SiFuh> You will learn what is real depression then
<zorz> i used to live like married for 5 years. i did not miss it.
<SiFuh> Heh
<zorz> winter i relax, summer time my flat is like a hotel
<zorz> female only hotel
<zorz> past 5 years I was working in Mykonos.......LG
<zorz> but too much now!
<zorz> SiFuh: alive?
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<dlcusa> Does bsd.rd provide a shell to do stuff like tar xJf files like for rescue ops? It may be able to help me with what I think is a hardware bug that completely wedges a high-perf box I use.
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<dlcusa> Looks like ext4 is RO...
<zorz> ?
<zorz> no ext4 anymore
<zorz> dlcusa: obsd uses ffs ?
<dlcusa> So all such filesystems have to be migrated to OpenBSD?
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<zorz> installation has to be ffs. openbsd can read write nfs or ext3
<zorz> ext2 sorry.
<zorz> better ask SiFuh tomorrow he does that.
<zorz> i am fool bsd.
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<zorz> full*
<dlcusa> Should be easy enough to migrate files from ext4 to ext2 under Linux, though a nuisance. Or use scp from Limux to OpenBSD.
<dlcusa> bbl
<zorz> dlcusa:
<zorz> if you share use nfs to share
<zorz> listen when you finish, you have to change some configs for multipros
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