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<cloudowind>
goodays osdev people
<pog>
howdy
<d5k>
hi
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* Ermine
gives pog a piece of cheese
* pog
is fascinated
<cloudowind>
how are you fellows doing , a bit quite here
<zid>
cant talk, joining a cult
<pog>
i'm tired
<zid>
cult will fix that
<pog>
neat
* pog
joins
<nikolar>
what cult are you going zid
<zid>
I'm not sure yet, I'm still reading brochures
<kof673>
inching towards a scripting language...a scripting language with goto, labels, no functions per se, every command can be overridden at run-time or a global intercept as well, data pointers, function pointers and setjmp/longjmp buffers as a first-class variable type...that kind of scripting language lol
<nikolar>
I think that's just basic
<nikolar>
With extra steps
<zid>
basic?
<nikolar>
BASIC
<zid>
oh, kof
<pog>
call it ACIDIC
<nikolar>
Kek
<pog>
there's probably already a basic impl out there called acidic
<pog>
too obvious of a name
<heat_>
there's an implementation of ACIDIC called DIC
<heat_>
hehehehehehehehehe
<kof673>
i assume basic stuff let you peek/poke but could it jmp (to non-basic code that is) and basically get "full access" ?
<kof673>
i mean, i'm sure it was relatively "open"
<GeDaMo>
There was often a USR function which allowed calling machine code
<kof673>
i just didn't want to deal with a "call stack" but if you have pseudo-code: alias foo='bar; baz; quux' override quux (assume it is a built-in) = 'echo 1 ; echo 2' override echo='...' then basically i will still have to track the 'levels' there, since things can be aliases or overrides, and "recurse"
<kof673>
foo -> calls quux, which is overriden, and calls echo, which could also be overridden, etc. assume these are all built-in command names
* cloudowind
is trying to understand
<kof673>
function a() calls function b() calls function c() --- then function c "returns". it has to know where to return to, somewhere inside function b()
<kof673>
so even without "functions" per se, a similar thing if such "nesting' is allowed
<GeDaMo>
Continuation passing?
<cloudowind>
like a dream within a dream and we need to know where to wake up when we wake up ?:)
<kof673>
say an "alias" just is a sequence of one or more commands .... then, a; b; c; d; assuming "b" was an alias it might "expand" to more than one command, so even without functions, it is not quite "flat"
<kof673>
have to keep track of what exact command is executing, if that makes sense, within "b" in that case
<kof673>
you could "bind" it once and require user specify ahead of time, but then that ruins the "allow overriding at run-time" property :D
<kof673>
or then you'd have to find every instance in your "syntax tree" and update it, etc. too much work
<kof673>
and with something like eval ....you may not know ahead of time all the places that call "b"
<kof673>
i'm not saying this is a good idea, just wanted to keep it dynamic :D
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<cloudowind>
one day , they read fragments of heraclet to socrates , and then they ask how he find it? socrat answers:The part I understand is excellent, and so too is, I dare say, the part I do not understand; but it needs a Delian diver to get to the bottom of it."
<kof673>
you can dlopen() C code you wrote and add new "builtins" too, but i don't assume that is available, but you can change where the C function pointers that implement built-in commands point to as well
<kof673>
"if a program can't rewrite its own code, what good is it?" he asked -- story of mel
<froggey>
mel was a terrible programmer. wrote absolutely unmaintainable code
<zid>
heat_: nikolar doesn't want to invade bosnia for me, when are invading olivenza?
<heat_>
whenever you're ready
<heat_>
portugal uk oldest alliance in the world babyyyyyyyyy
<nikolar>
lol
<nikolar>
does it still count
<zid>
yea it's still active
<nikolar>
was portugal ever called into a war because of it
<zid>
If spain attacks portugal, we will cede spain to gibralta
<nikolar>
lol
<zid>
except for olivenza, that's portugal
<zid>
nikolar: we're both in nato so atm it's sort of redundant, but it forced portugal onto the uk side in both ww1 and ww2
<zid>
and the azores were offered to the royal navy for use during the falklands war
<nikolar>
interesting
<zid>
also in 1890 we told them to give us some bits of africa they had invaded but we had already claimed, and their government collapsed trying to figure out if they should or not :P
<nikolar>
lol
<nikolar>
nice
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<cloudowind>
what happened to Peace friendship respect collobration and love ?
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<Ermine>
Invincible Armada 2 when
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