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<remiliascarlet> zorz: I think I found a Rust-free and simple alternative to Newsboat: https://codeberg.org/newsraft/newsraft
<remiliascarlet> Oh, we're having an earthquake right now.
<remiliascarlet> Good, I really needed some massage.
<SiFuh> Heh
<SiFuh> And Japan dissappears to the bottom of the Ocean
<remiliascarlet> Nah, it was just a shindo 3, magnitude 4.8 earthquake, so no big deal.
<remiliascarlet> Correction: magnitude 7.6 and shindo 7 at the time I felt it, what I said was the latest after-quake. https://typhoon.yahoo.co.jp/weather/jp/earthquake/
<remiliascarlet> Still, no big deal where I am.
<remiliascarlet> But shindo 7 can inflict quite a lot of damage.
<remiliascarlet> Speaking of damaging, yesterday on the train I got very surprised to seeing so many obese people. Some are men, but most are women.
<remiliascarlet> Although not that surprising if you consider what they put in most food almost everyone here consumes.
<remiliascarlet> Ham with 20 or so ingredients, while the only ingredient it should have is pork meat.
<SiFuh> https://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/map/?extent=32.87959,129.89136&extent=40.58058,147.44751&listOnlyShown=true&baseLayer=terrain
<remiliascarlet> SiFuh: By the way, any idea if it's possible to use relayd to appoint public IP addresses to other hosts within the network?
<SiFuh> Not sure, never tried
<SiFuh> My android phone stopped working after charging it on the the 29th
<SiFuh> Stopped functioning correctly*
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<remiliascarlet> Planned obsolecense, because you'll own nothing and be happy.
<remiliascarlet> zorz: I think I found a Rust-free and simple alternative to Newsboat: https://codeberg.org/newsraft/newsraft
<zorz> remiliascarlet: thank you, i will look for this later. yesterday, i was briefly looked at icecat. it seems the project is running.
<zorz> remiliascarlet: Happy New Year.
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<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: 23 days is a bit extreme for planned obsolence
<zorz> SiFuh: i was looking yesterday in this https://github.com/Aetf/kmscon and i jumbed into this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2F_jsfWvFY
<zorz> ksmcon, should be fast... terminal without X
<zorz> kms.
<zorz> i have an alpine box, and i tried it since over there is in the edge/testing repos.
<remiliascarlet> SiFuh: That's their end goal. First they made things last for up to however long your warranty is, then they went to just 1 year, then 6 months, soon they'll go for 1 month, forcing you to buy a new phone every month.
<lavaball> i don't want to jinx it, but i think i figured the central nervous system stuff out.
<lavaball> any workout people here?
<remiliascarlet> And not just any phone, but a flagship one, because all the government mandated apps won't run on budget phones, because fuck you.
<remiliascarlet> And then they'll make it a criminal offense to not have their stupid apps. Just like how the EU just made it a criminal offense to blacklist their root certificate.
<SiFuh> What's a workout people?
<remiliascarlet> All in the name of "think of the children".
<lavaball> SiFuh, those are the ones you are going to beat you when you don't stop pretending not to be one of the real people.
<lavaball> who are ...
<SiFuh> No idea
<SiFuh> The word on the street is “Hoeflation”: The dramatic increase in cost for men today to maintain a relationship with a woman while the quality of women continues to go down. That is to say, it is an increase in female expectations vs what they bring to the table in a relationship.
<SiFuh> Heh, “Hoeflation”
<lavaball> can't confirm the hoeflation.
<SiFuh> I often like to solve freecell. Does that make me a workout people?
<lavaball> actually your behavior makes you a q.
<lavaball> i thought after i offended the last one i was good, but they keep turning up, don't they?
<SiFuh> Q from Star Trek?
<lavaball> i guess that's where he had his name from, yes.
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<remiliascarlet> SiFuh: "there have been no signs of any “abnormalities” so far." The fact it happened on the western coast by itself is already an abnormality.
<SiFuh> Well there is a plateline there
<remiliascarlet> Still, it doesn't happen there as much as here on the east coast.
<remiliascarlet> https://youtube.owacon.moe/watch?v=bp11EpyRbHU Open this in MPV, because you can't view livestreams in an Invidious instance.
<SiFuh> Horrible houses
<SiFuh> Too Western
<SiFuh> Expensive
<farkuhar> SiFuh: did you figure out which command in the init script was printing ^@ on your crypto miner?
<SiFuh> Not yet, because the crypto miner is still running. I might do that now actualy since I have no shares at the current moment.
<SiFuh> Between T minus 12 and T minus 11
<SiFuh> 11 echo -n "T minus 12"
<SiFuh> 12 # Start udev
<SiFuh> 13 /bin/mount -t proc none /proc
<SiFuh> 15 /sbin/start_udev
<SiFuh> 14 /bin/mount -t sysfs none /sys
<SiFuh> 16
<SiFuh> 17 echo -n "T minus 11"
<remiliascarlet> Searching on JewTube is like, "fuck, at least 80% of the results are shorts!"
<farkuhar> My guess is line 15, /sbin/start_udev. The other commands are too simple to be printing ^@
<SiFuh> I put > /dev/null 2>&1 after than line and it still appears
<SiFuh> farkuhar: I commented it out and the ^@ dissappeared
<SiFuh> Manually ran the command /sbin/start_udev
<SiFuh> And it spat out ^@
<farkuhar> Good detective work, SiFuh! Now why does it spit out ^@ on your crypto miner but not on most other installations?
<SiFuh> No idea, I never touched much at all. Almost everythign is default
<remiliascarlet> SiFuh: What files did you change? Because if almost everything is default, it might be easier to figure out why this happens.
<SiFuh> timezone, locale, rc.conf, passwd, group and that is pretty much it
<remiliascarlet> "Too Western" The consequence of being ruled over by Americans for 80 years.
<remiliascarlet> Maybe try reverting these to default one by one, and see if something changes.
<SiFuh> None have anything to do with start_udev
<remiliascarlet> Can you copy and paste the contents of /sbin/start_udev?
<remiliascarlet> Or check and compare it to another CRUX system that doesn't have this issue?
<farkuhar> remiliascarlet: it should be unchanged from the CRUX default, if SiFuh has only touched timezone, locale, rc.conf, passwd and group.
<SiFuh> And you the fsck would change /sbin/start_udev ?
<SiFuh> you/who*
<farkuhar> maybe it's a hardware issue ... a side effect of `cp -ar /lib/udev/devices/* /dev` ?
<SiFuh> mkdir dev && cp -ar /lib/udev/devices/* dev Nope no ^@
<SiFuh> I was just poking around my fstab
<SiFuh> Because that is a file I modified as well
<farkuhar> or consider the udevadm commands ... they might have a sneaky way to ignore your stderr redirection and spit out ^@
<farkuhar> funny that SiFuh is mentioning fstab ... I've been tweaking my own fstab, identifying volumes by UUID= rather than by device node, to better support the simultaneous mounting of multiple external drives.
<SiFuh> OpenBSD has been doing that for years and years
<SiFuh> farkuhar: Don't forget to use it in your syslinux.cfg as well if you use syslinux
<SiFuh> APPEND root=UUID=69333d96-e040-46db-b746-cd4e37bf0ee2 rw net.ifnames=0 quiet
<farkuhar> Heh, thanks for reminding me to inspect syslinux.cfg. Looks like at some point in the past I put "i8042.nomux i8042.dumbkbd" on the APPEND line (as a workaround for a non-standards-compliant USB keyboard), but maybe those parameters aren't needed anymore, because the same keyboard works fine on another CRUX machine without such kernel parameters.
<farkuhar> On the other hand, that other CRUX machine has fewer USB ports, so the keyboard is connected through a USB dongle, which might be compensating for any out-of-spec signals.
<SiFuh> That was for your keyboard i8042.nomux
<SiFuh> farkuhar: Between 13 and 14 so this command /sbin/udevadm settle
<remiliascarlet> SiFuh: The file seems fine. The reason why I asked is because based on your photo, it seemed to happen when you run exactly that file.
<SiFuh> This line is causing the output --> /sbin/udevadm trigger --type=devices --action=add
<remiliascarlet> It's a frequency issue.
<remiliascarlet> It's a bird! It's a plane! No, it's a frequency issue!
<SiFuh> Yep
<SiFuh> Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No! It's udevadm!
<SiFuh> Heh, just remembered I have ckut
<remiliascarlet> The best thing about using source-based distro's is that the more software you install, the more you hate software bloat.
<lavaball> seconded.
<SiFuh> zorz: https://durdraw.org/
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<zorz> /urlview
<zorz> SiFuh: this is nice
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<SiFuh> NINJA TURTLES!!!!
<zorz> SiFuh: vanilla ice man... ice ice baby... where did u remember him.
<zorz> SiFuh: in my mind came now the movie, white men cant jump.
<SiFuh> The radio
<zorz> SiFuh: ok finished with crux... all set?
<SiFuh> No
<zorz> did u set the ucode?
<SiFuh> Yes
<zorz> never tried to add ucode on mine.
<SiFuh> I was adding the microcode into the kernel
<SiFuh> But that is not what was important
<SiFuh> We were looking into why my machine prints ^@ just before hostname on boot. It appears to do with the second last line of /sbin/start_udev
<SiFuh> However, it has come to our attention on another topic that dracut is mountint /proc and /sys and /dev/shm before the the system has booted and then the rc scripts and fstab mount them a second time.
<zorz> with this one /sbin/udevadm trigger --type=devices --action=add
<SiFuh> Yep
<zorz> aaa u use dracut?
<SiFuh> dracut and udev's ^@ issues are unrelated
<zorz> never used dracut
<SiFuh> dracut makes the initramfs so maybe tomorrow, I will look further into dracut
<zorz> SiFuh: on the laptop u installed it?
<SiFuh> External USB SSD connected to a Ryzen 9 5900HX laptop
<zorz> u wanna load linux, from a detached drive, through efi boot.
<zorz> i believe u change the efi entries, not using grub or syslinux.
<SiFuh> Hmmmmmmmm
<SiFuh> We are talking about the ^@ before the hostname
<SiFuh> Nothing to do with UEFI or whatever
<zorz> "^@" represents the null character (ASCII code 0)
<zorz> hostname, locales
<SiFuh> HOSTNAME=crypto
<SiFuh> start_udev is spewing it out. It has nothing to do with hostname
<SiFuh> cpio -mvid < /boot/EFI/BOOT/initramfs-6.6.9.img
<SiFuh> .
<SiFuh> early_cpio
<SiFuh> kernel
<SiFuh> kernel/x86
<SiFuh> kernel/x86/microcode
<SiFuh> kernel/x86/microcode/AuthenticAMD.bin
<SiFuh> 79 blocks
<SiFuh> Not much inside it
<zorz> i dont know man.
<zorz> maybe not using bootloader and go with the kernel efi stub
<SiFuh> It has nothing to do with the bootloader....
<farkuhar> Nothing to do with the bootloader, because SiFuh tried the udevadm commands (at the end of /sbin/start_udev) on an already-booted system and got the same ^@ output. To get past SiFuh's redirection of stdout and stderr to /dev/null, there had to be a forked udevadm process working in the background.
<zorz> ok
<SiFuh> So nice to have an IRC translator ;-)
<zorz> SiFuh: haha
<zorz> HAHAHA the news that Bill Clinton was in the list of Epstein customers.... hahaha people are shocked, Bill used to give blowjobs in the oval office.
<SiFuh> Bill gave blowjobs??????
<SiFuh> You mean Monica gave blowjobs to Bill
<zorz> yes... in greek is opposite.
<zorz> SiFuh: they updated netsurf... it runs fast but no java support.. i do not know if i need to compile with something else.
<SiFuh> That's like in Thailand "The Lord of the Rings" is "The Ring of the Lord"
<SiFuh> 'The Ring of the Lord' can mean something quite rude in English
<zorz> seriously...
<SiFuh> Just ask remiliascarlet about goatse.cx ;-)
<zorz> yes in greek language dont have fixed sentences like time subject verb manner object
<SiFuh> I've noticed :-P
<zorz> we change the order according to the end of its word.. that is why is hard to learn and
<zorz> HAHAHA
<zorz> U ve noticed
<SiFuh> You competing with Hungarian?
<zorz> Hungarian is quite new language is not so mature :Pp
<SiFuh> I doubt that
<zorz> at the beggining.... the numbers where expressed with letters... later they took from phoenix people the numbers and addapted.
<SiFuh> Phoenix? A bird people?
<zorz> wait... to fine correct
<zorz> find
<SiFuh> Haha
<SiFuh> Phoentic or Phoenicians?
<SiFuh> Phoenetic*
<zorz> υεσ
<zorz> yes
<zorz> for example in greek στ' = 6
<SiFuh> You mean Arabic?
<zorz> ε = 5
<zorz> in ancient.. before adapting the numbers...like 1 2 3 4 5
<zorz> they had α =1 β =2 γ = 3 δ =4
<zorz> ι = 10
<zorz> netsurf does not play youtube
<zorz> wait i am joking
<zorz> yes
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<SiFuh> Is the president suppose to be a Gavin Newsom look-a-like?
<zorz> we are americans ok... what kind of american u are?
<zorz> hahaha
<zorz> this fuckin crap that they feed their people, we are americans, the best in the world!
<zorz> hahaha
<SiFuh> It's the reverse
<SiFuh> This is a battle between the libtards and the right
<SiFuh> Isn't this another Obama movie anyway?
<zorz> if i was goin now to live again in usa, the only places i could settle is florida, carolina, tenesse texas.
<zorz> and virginia is nice
<zorz> oracle went to nashville tenesee and nashville became super city:P
<SiFuh> Don't play the video. Have a look at the cover photo
<SiFuh> It's a green haired, nail polish wearing leftist retard
<SiFuh> I'd choose Texas, Montanna, Arizona
<zorz> yes
<zorz> texas...
<zorz> somehow texas still keeps the tradition of american way
<zorz> nail polish i was looking
<SiFuh> I want to see the results of the "if we should secede" on the ballot coming soon
<SiFuh> Dude, that was last year. Why you posting old shit?
<zorz> hahaha 28 Dec, 2023
<zorz> correct
<zorz> it was on my front page
<SiFuh> I read it on the 28th
<zorz> i dont nread news daily
<SiFuh> Me too
<SiFuh> I read it like every few minutes
<zorz> i dont like all this drama daily
<zorz> u speak with somebody in greece, or europe... name me good universities, they will tell you harvard, mit, oxford, cambridge... nobody will ever mention somethiing like st petersburg etc etc
<zorz> it is fucked up
<zorz> putin looks strong... and looks like he has anothe decade of running russia... the time is coming...
<SiFuh> That's because most people have IQ's less than my boot size
<zorz> even ukrania has some excellent it universities.
<zorz> basically had.
<zorz> now no more ukraina
<SiFuh> What do you mean 'had'
<SiFuh> You can still go to study there
<zorz> ofcourse... accomodation is cheaper now.
<zorz> who is gonna go now over there?
<SiFuh> Why not?
<SiFuh> Russia isn't bombing Ukraine
<zorz> u dont take the risc to go over there now.
<zorz> its like telling me i booked a 5* hotel in lebannon or syria for summer.
<SiFuh> Anything West of Kiev is considered safe unless you are Ukrainian
<zorz> hahaha
<zorz> you mean east
<SiFuh> No
<zorz> Hell Camp: Teen Nightmare (2023)
<SiFuh> Zelensky is kidnapping Ukrainians under the guise of nationalism and patriotism like being born in Ukraine makes you property of the state.
<zorz> SiFuh: yes correct with no guns cause they sold them elsewhere.
<zorz> meat grinder
<SiFuh> zorz: Yes, I saw many for sale on the 'dark' web. I actually dislike that name
<SiFuh> It's not dark. It just isn't indexed
<zorz> ?
<zorz> i dont get you
<SiFuh> I, I used fixed sentences like time, subject, verbs, manners and objects.
<SiFuh> I should have thrown out half the words
<SiFuh> Internet, not see, many guns, Ukraine sell
<zorz> aaaa
<SiFuh> I see, the not see, I see guns, Ukraine sell
<SiFuh> Hahaha
<zorz> i dont know about darkweb, i know hammas had guns that supposed to be in ukraine
<SiFuh> Hamas?
<zorz> u know yugoslavia, had zastava, used to produce guns too ak-47, pistols . countries like iraq bought
<SiFuh> That well funded by Jewish on call organisation that is never seen?
<zorz> one of the reasons that destroy yugoslaviaa.
<SiFuh> Yugoslavia needed to be controlled, so they cut it up into pieces, like they wish to do with Russia
<zorz> exactly
<zorz> i am reading now bans on russian diamonds... so stupid,,, how you can ban a diamond?
<zorz> people fly with diamonds, not detectable.
<SiFuh> I can't understand how diamonds are worth anything