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<iceman[m]> Hi
<iceman[m]> <sad_plan> "could use palemoon for now..." <- I used palemoon on fossapup (puppy linux)
<iceman[m]> it was decent enough
<iceman[m]> But it's still nice to keep going with upstream
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<sewn> hi
<xdream8[m]> i am thinking of introducing threading to kiss-rs
<sewn> if it's easy, yes that is a great benefit
<sewn> but if it requires great rewrite of the code it's not reallyw orth it
<xdream8[m]> it is pretty easy, i just need to look at the code and change parts that uses for loops and add threading
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<xdream8[m]> i will also add a flag, which it will force kiss-rs to use only 1 thread.
<sewn> it is july 30
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<sad_plan> hi
<sad_plan> iceman[m]: sure. upstream is always best initially. atleast from a security perspective
<iceman[m]> <xdream8[m]> "it is pretty easy, i just need..." <- is it really beneficial?
<iceman[m]> the time taken for context switch for threads, time taken for setting up other stuff for the threads
<iceman[m]> all taken to consideration
<xdream8[m]> it is very useful. for example when kiss-rs creates a manifest file, it searches pkg directory and takes found files as a vector of paths(you can think of vectors like arrays) and removes prefix($XDG_CACHE_HOME/kiss/proc/<pid>/pkg/<pkg_name>) from all items in the vector. adding threading would shorten the time we spend on this. this is mostly beneficial for big packages as you might have thought.
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<xdream8[m]> ^ this is single-threaded
<xdream8[m]> ^ this is multi-threaded
<sewn> i dont get how literally listing files and getting information from two files in them in a loop could be so much faster wth
<sewn> xdream8[m]: such a small difference
<sewn> your multi-thread will make difference when checking for conflicts
<sewn> a big one.
<xdream8[m]> i had to wait total 6-8 minutes for 'kiss list' test
<sewn> you set --min-runs to 1000 thats why
<xdream8[m]> yeah i want accurate tests
<sewn> :v
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<xdream8[m]> should i parallelize source downloads and git checkouts?
<sewn> how
<sewn> btw i would reccomend you try out looking at a git library instead of executing git commands
<xdream8[m]> since they are functions that i wrote myself its pretty easy
<xdream8[m]> sewn: i already use git2 rust lib
<sad_plan> if you can, I would. but make it use a variable, so users can choose how many
<sad_plan> sabotage does this. really neat if you have a good connection
<xdream8[m]> sewn: kiss-rs does not depend on any system commands(except strip)
<xdream8[m]> sad_plan: it will have --jobs flag
<sad_plan> nice
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<sewn> oh no
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<xdream8[m]> print order gets messed up
<xdream8[m]> maybe i should not print Reading sources
<sewn> there is NO way that is fast
<sewn> how on earth is that 1.5 seconds
<xdream8[m]> it did not download anything because they are already in cache
<sewn> yeah ik
<xdream8[m]> it only tried to fetch latest git commits
<xdream8[m]> so how should i handle printed output as it gets messed up?
<xdream8[m]> i should make it only print Reading sources... when debug is set
<sewn> is it multi threaded too
<xdream8[m]> yeah
<sewn> you're kidding me
<xdream8[m]> that is why print order gets messed up .d
<sewn> imo it should be one by one, this isnt a binary package manager
<xdream8[m]> this is better. i just need to improve my code
<xdream8[m]> does it look good enough?
<sewn> whats wrong with -> pkg
<xdream8[m]> i think i removed them when illiliti was suggesting me design ideas
<sewn> looks about right
<xdream8[m]> i found a better way to do this. instead of creating threads for packages, we check/download sources in threads
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<xdream8[m]> i am thinking of making some of the compression/decompression libraries in kiss-rs optional at compile-time as its just a lot of dependency
<xdream8[m]> ^ another test
<sewn> where can i see this kiss-rs thing
<xdream8[m]> its in codeberg but i havent pushed in a while
<sewn> maybe one day someone will write kiss-ha
<xdream8[m]> ^ ccache was used for precise results
<sewn> did you
<sewn> did you finish building
<sewn> how is it faster...
<sewn> shell sisters...
<xdream8[m]> pkg_conflicts has lots of bugs and is incomplete other than that i almost finished
<xdream8[m]> sewn: i feel like single-threaded version was faster
<sewn> statistics > feelings
<sewn> :^)
<sewn> whats so multi-threaded about generating checksums
<sewn> looks like you will be using multi-threaded when its needed yay
<xdream8[m]> should i set number of jobs to 1 by default?
<sewn> you should hard-set it automatically when needed
<sewn> for example in big downloads, 4 jobs, and with small ones one job
<sewn> same goes for checksums, etc
<sewn> like if its small disable multi-threading
<xdream8[m]> i can directly number of jobs to 1 by default, so it will be disabled by default
<xdream8[m]> * can directly set number of
<sewn> sure
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<sewn> i wonder why the irc bridge hasnt gone down yet
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<mako2> chromium -> build failed
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<mako2> :/
<illiliti> log is truncated
<sewn> ^
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<mako3> can i just shorten the log
<mako3> just from the beginning and in the end? i can't upload the file with the full log
<illiliti> use better pastebin
<illiliti> gcc/clang is up-to-date?
<mako3> I updated gcc along with nss yesterday
<mako3> I don't think I've heard an update with clang
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<illiliti> weird
<illiliti> not sure why this fix is still not included
<illiliti> you can apply it and check if it works
<illiliti> or you can build chromium with clang
<mako3> does clang work most of the time?
<illiliti> yeah it should bacause google devs use it to build chromium
<mako3> i'll just build it with clang this time, will switch back to gcc if something happens
<illiliti> btw are you sure your computer is capable of building chromium?
<mako3> well, my pc is a r5 5600 and rx 6600 with 32gb
<illiliti> still not enough
<illiliti> get ready for OOM
<mako3> :/
<illiliti> yeah linking step will kill your computer
<mako3> my temps go from 56 to 60's when compiling chromium
<mako3> i just cat /sys/class/hwmon/hwmon0/temp1_input and a sed command to check my temps
<mako3> since there isnt a gotop package in any of the kiss repos
<illiliti> if you live in a cold climate that's probably advantage
<mako3> i wish
<mako3> i live where the sun makes me uncomfortable and itchy, typhoons are frequent
<illiliti> that sucks
<mako3> btw, can i compile the linux kernel without using gcc?
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<illiliti> i believe you can
<illiliti> with clang
<mako3> ah i see
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