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<SiFuh_>
Hey zorz Got a wife's father's moment today. When I set up the dog kennel, I placed it right on the edge of our property. Today I can't see out of the security camera. The father has moved the kennel 2 feet further into our property so he can put his stuff on our property.
<SiFuh_>
Here is how the conversation went. "Why did you move the kennel?" "Need room to put these things." "Why not in front of your window?" "We cannot see out of the window if it is in front of it." "But now I can't see out of my window because your stuff and the kennel is front of it." "But it is your kennel." "And that is your stuff."
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<zorz>
SiFuh_: the conclusion is..... as far away posible from wifes parents.
<SiFuh_>
Or buy a shot gun
<zorz>
heh... send him to live the California Dream!
<zorz>
where is our American friend ? :P
<SiFuh_>
San Franciso Tsunami :-)
<zorz>
according to Trump, Canadians are Americans now
<SiFuh_>
As long as they are not greek :-)
<zorz>
:)
<zorz>
SiFuh_: go to your therapist :P
<SiFuh_>
I was doing some electrical wiring in the truck today. Holy shit! What a messy job whomever had done it.
<SiFuh_>
Not sure what that black wire is (It's actually blue) but I have a feeling it is connected to the hazard lights so when you open the door the truck flashes it's hazard lights five times.
<zorz>
hazardous:P
<zorz>
douche of hazard
<SiFuh_>
Yes, I will do a full dash rebuild hopefully by years end. I will change all the gauges and stuff. I plan to do a complete electrical overhaul of the entire system
<SiFuh_>
And change the location of the fuse box to maybe the centre console
<zorz>
goin to the kiosk, buy cigarettes
<SiFuh_>
In Soviet Russia the Kiosk comes to you and the cigarettes buy you.
<farkuhar>
Three hours so far today ... apparently ppetrov^ was too busy to join us for more than that. Too bad I missed his appearance; we could have discussed his pkg-get wget issue again.
<SiFuh_>
Oh yeah, thought you were just talking and didn't really mean to wait him out.
<SiFuh_>
Also, I only noticed he WAS online when he went offline
<farkuhar>
It happens on the two machines tested so far.
<SiFuh_>
I will try here. But I will not do a ports -u
<SiFuh_>
ffmpeg 7.0.1
<farkuhar>
ffmpeg 7.1 here
<SiFuh_>
Yeah well, I don't want to do a ports -u but I might after I try 7.0.1
<farkuhar>
I can still read the uncompiled nroff by doing `zless /usr/share/man/man1/ffmpeg.1.gz` but when I quit zless, it complains about a failing preprocessor.
<SiFuh_>
What if...? You installed OpenBSD? Hahaha
<farkuhar>
Don't miss your chance to demonstrate a non-useless-use-of-cat. `zcat /usr/share/man/man1/ffmpeg.1.gz | less` throws no such error, because the problematic UTF-8 byte sequences are gracefully stripped away before `less` can see them.
<SiFuh_>
Hmm, I use more not less, more-or-less
<farkuhar>
Your encrypted-CRUX-without-dracut procedure obviously predated your experiments with musl, which has no support for the line `localedef -i en_US -f UTF-8 en_US.UTF-8`
<SiFuh_>
farkuhar: Yes, 3 years ago. jaeger said it couldn't be done and I said I bet I can do it. And I did
<farkuhar>
I wonder if it's the absence of such localization that leads to broken man-pages in the ffmpeg package.
<SiFuh_>
I had a feeling I could because when I was doing kernel configs I was reading about dm-mod and thought "Interesting" and moved on. But I never forgot it, so when jaeger said it couldn't be done. I remembered dm-mod.
<SiFuh_>
And I don't and have no plans to kill millions of people
<zorz>
hahahhahaa
<zorz>
in the pic do you wait for someone to touch the paint
<SiFuh_>
Yes
<SiFuh_>
And it is primer, not paint.
<SiFuh_>
Nvidia Announces Partnership With Toyota To Develop Autonomous Vehicle Tech
<zorz>
SiFuh_: in this jackal series, Esthonia Talin looks good :P
<SiFuh_>
You mean Talin, Esthonia
<zorz>
yes
<farkuhar>
SiFuh_: What's the URL template for downloading a tarball of a GitLab repository at a specific commit? I know how to write such a URL for GitHub, but not for GitLab.
<SiFuh_>
farkuhar: I don't know
<farkuhar>
It would be nice if CRUX 3.8 finally gives pkgmk the ability to handle git sources natively.
<SiFuh_>
man ffmpeg right?
<SiFuh_>
Works fine here
<farkuhar>
Okay, now upgrade to ffmpeg 7.1 and see if it still works.
<SiFuh_>
Doing that already
<farkuhar>
I suppose I could redefine download_source() or unpack_source() in the Pkgfile itself, rather than waiting for pkgmk to become git-aware.
<SiFuh_>
But not the system. Only ffmpeg I will upgrade
<SiFuh_>
Hopefully no dependency changess
<emmett1>
farkuhar: hey, are you on CRUX 3.8?
<SiFuh_>
emmett1: There is no CRUX 3.8 yet
<emmett1>
SiFuh_: i mean CRUX 3.8-rc3
<SiFuh_>
:-P No point using that.
<emmett1>
yeah, just testing around.
<SiFuh_>
I did too but never installed it. Just tested kernel features and booting legacy. I didn't test UEFI, someone else did that.
<emmett1>
i heard 3.8-rc is released, so i thought i'm gonna try it on my spare partition
<emmett1>
I fixed a few ports that broken with latest gcc
<SiFuh_>
Go for it. But isn't really for public consumption.
<emmett1>
but stuck with firefox, wont compiled for me
<emmett1>
yeah i know SiFuh_ it still rc
<SiFuh_>
I will wait until CRUX 3.8 Source is released before I do the CRUX-MUSL 3.8
<emmett1>
btw i already did CRUX-MUSL 3.8, also faced same problem, firefox wont build
<SiFuh_>
emmett1: Ahh well, guess you are going to have to install 9front then.
<emmett1>
9front? why is that?
<SiFuh_>
I don't know, I guess he has a reason to call it 9front.
<emmett1>
owh okay
<emmett1>
no jungle SiFuh_ ?
<SiFuh_>
emmett1: Yes, went alone for 4 days.
<SiFuh_>
It was good, because it was flooding and there was no one around.
<emmett1>
alone?
<emmett1>
where is that?
<farkuhar>
emmett1: What's the build error with firefox? On CRUX-MUSL 3.7 I got a successful build of firefox 134.0 just yesterday.
<SiFuh_>
emmett1: Raub in the mountains (Maybe a 100KM) south of Cameron Highlands.
<SiFuh_>
farkuhar: I type man ffmpeg and I get this error "farkuhar's CRUX-MUSL is broken"
<emmett1>
farkuhar: its on CRUX-3.8-rc3
<emmett1>
SiFuh_: i see.
<SiFuh_>
farkuhar: No the man page comes up fine, however I do get some white blocks with black question marks where things like this character ' should be and some others. But nothing to prohibit/inhibit me from readin git.
<SiFuh_>
emmett1: Python 3.11 or lower. ?
<emmett1>
SiFuh_: python3 3.12.8
<farkuhar>
SiFuh_: The non-sequitur recommendation of 9front is much appreciated. With such a limited availability of software for Plan9, users won't be tempted to waste so much time getting ports to compile.
<SiFuh_>
emmett1: No, the error is to dowith mach. At the very bottom there is a note saying " Python 3.11 or lower "
<SiFuh_>
do with*
<SiFuh_>
farkuhar: I thought the same thing. Spent more time configuring things than installing stuff.
<SiFuh_>
emmett1: "Note that you are running Mach with Python 3.12.8, which is higher than the highest known working version of Python for Mach. Consider running Mach with Python 3.11 or lower."
<emmett1>
SiFuh_: owh okay, so i have to downgrade python to 3.11?
<SiFuh_>
emmett1: No, you don't have to but it is telling you to consider it :-P
<emmett1>
i guess just it should not use mach to build firefox then?
<ukky>
SiFuh_: (GwTnrZ.jpg) Those type of connections you have to do yourself. If mechanic does it, ask him to show you where the new connection is.
<SiFuh_>
emmett1: If I was you, I'd downgrade python and see
<SiFuh_>
ukky: I don't know who did it. But it was from before I ever owned that truck.
<SiFuh_>
I fixed it now, _properly_. So all good.
<ukky>
SiFuh_: (CfXV5e.jpg) Primer is light-blue in color??? Usually it is brown/dark-red.
<SiFuh_>
Gray
<ukky>
I see grey only on the inside part.
<SiFuh_>
ukky: I am using car stands (Blue and black) to hang the fender flares from fishing line.
<ukky>
I see that.
<SiFuh_>
Well only that and the stool is blue. :-P
<ukky>
Outside color on hung parts is light-blue. Internal surface is light-grey.
<SiFuh_>
ukky: That's the 8th time, I had to respray it.
<ukky>
You need much more beer than a bottle to guard primer setting process.
<SiFuh_>
I have 120 beers
<SiFuh_>
I can see the beer if I turn my head to the left. :-P
<SiFuh_>
Less than 120 now ;-)
<ukky>
farkuhar: What is your LANG setting on systems with man_ffmpeg issue?
<emmett1>
SiFuh_: its weird it doesnt build with python 3.12. it should build fine
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<farkuhar>
ukky: LANG=en_US.utf8
<ukky>
farkuhar: okay, just to check if that could be the reason
<SiFuh_>
It's simple, the reason he has a problem is because it isn't working as it should :-)
<farkuhar>
Long ago I pointed out to beerman that the ffmpeg-x264-10bit wrapper was dropping all arguments, and the final command should have "$@" appended at the end. It still hasn't been fixed. A broken ffmpeg man-page will probably receive even less attention, considering how difficult it is to reproduce.
<farkuhar>
The Doxyfile under ffmpeg-7.1/doc has some possibly-relevant configuration options, including DOXYFILE_ENCODING, ALLOW_UNICODE_NAMES, and INPUT_ENCODING. It helpfully explains "Doxygen uses libiconv (or the iconv built into libc) for the transcoding."
<ukky>
SiFuh_: I few years back a contactor has cut my undergound low-voltage cable and repaired it like yours: https://imgur.com/a/8WjNaWC
<SiFuh_>
ukky: That's terrible. Does that cable lay directly in the soil?
<ukky>
SiFuh_: Yes
<SiFuh_>
I'd be pissed
<ukky>
If you magnify the picture, there is SJTW matking on the cable.
<ukky>
I was pissed. Contractor at least had the courage to tell me about accident.
<SiFuh_>
Not now ;-)
<ukky>
He told me he will fix it. I said no, I will fix it because you cannot do a good job fixing it (and he could not replace the cable)
<SiFuh_>
I had the tiles removed from my driveway with a jack hammer. The guy doing it went pale. I asked what happened. He asked me what that is. He found my cable which is 1" thick. He said "I don't want to do this job anymore" I think it scared him. But it was only 220 volts.
<ukky>
I did the soldering with my 100W iron, with heavy-duty heatshrink, and made a special encasing to guard this part of the cable.
<SiFuh_>
ukky: Casing sounds like an idea. I would have probably have used very light heat shrink on first then heavy duty stuff over the top.
<ukky>
I will post picture of the tube I made
<ukky>
Let me compress it
<SiFuh_>
ukky: Best form of compression is inside of zorz's tight jeans :-P
<SiFuh_>
Easiest one to see is bottom left corner.
<ukky>
Found one. Guilty. Mine.
<SiFuh_>
Hahaha
<SiFuh_>
The one you found is the one that stands out the most, bottom left?
<ukky>
Yes, bottom left quater
<SiFuh_>
Top left has the second noticeable one but it blends in better than the bottom left
<SiFuh_>
ukky: What did you use to seal where the cable enters that PVC tube?
<ukky>
There are self-compressing adapters on both sides of that tube. I can find in the HW store what it is.
<SiFuh_>
Okay, I understand
<ukky>
Usully they are installed on outdoor electric equipment
<SiFuh_>
I miss good hardware stores. Here they are all crap and most don't let you inside. You have tell them what you want. Those that let you in sell cheap Chinese junk.
<SiFuh_>
If I drive to Thailand next year, I am going to stop off at Global House to buy some real good stuff
<ukky>
I can buy cheap Chinese product, but I need to hold it and check if I like it.
<SiFuh_>
I was talking about tools, not a woman
<ukky>
Ha. You have a good point: Treat your tools like a lady, or better.
<ukky>
Only a few products are kepr under locker in HW stores here, so you cannot check product without asking sale person to open the locker.
<SiFuh_>
A friend of mine who is a truck driver and mechanic was working another friend of mine's car. He was using the tools that the car owner had. When he realised it was the wrong sized ratchet, he slung down the driveway and it landed on the road. Hohohoho, did I explode and the tool/car owner took my side.
<ukky>
Electric circuit breakers are one of them, and I do not know why. Maybe because they are expensive and easy to steal. Maybe because installing them are regulated, they have to be installed by certified electrician.
<ukky>
I do not like lending my tools even to my friends. Too personal.
<SiFuh_>
ukky: In Australia you can wire your entire house, but you are not allowed to connect anything and you can't touch the mains box. After you wire it, you call in an electrician that inspects it then he/she connects everything up.
<farkuhar>
They stopped updating this helpful timeline of breaking changes to the ffmpeg API: https://abi-laboratory.pro/?view=timeline&l=ffmpeg Who still writes programs linked to ffmpeg4 or earlier?
<SiFuh_>
ukky: Same, and my father too. That same guy needed me to do some jobs on his car. So my father was worried and gave me a lecture. I said "These are the tools I will use. I will take them out and lock everything else up" Then I worked on it at my home whilst the friend drank beer.
<SiFuh_>
ukky: But yeah, I never lend anything to anyone. If I don't accompany it, then you ain't getting it.
<ukky>
I lended an electrical drill to a friend long time ago. He returned it after a year and the drill case was beat up badly like he used as a hammer. I could say nothing to him.
<farkuhar>
Oh great, a new rust release (1.83 -> 1.84). As if we didn't have enough work for our computers to do today.
<SiFuh_>
ukky: You just reminded me of my drill. Went to Asia for 5 years and when I came back I was asking my father if he had seen my green drill. He said he doesn't have and showed me his drills. I pointed to the oldest looking one and said "That's it". He said "No, that's my old drill from the 80's" I said "No that is my drill from the 80's". He said he doesn't work anymore. Found out it was left outside
<SiFuh_>
in the grass in the rain for several months before they found it.
<SiFuh_>
ukky: Best part ;-) I took it apart and cleaned it up, repaired it and still works to this day.
<ukky>
brb, my snowblower have some snow to remove after yesterday
<SiFuh_>
farkuhar: I don't know what 'Doxygen' is and I don't have it installed on CRUX-MUSL
<SiFuh_>
And I don't have it installed on OpenBSD either
<farkuhar>
SiFuh_: Do the CONFIG_NLS_* settings in the Linux kernel (and the decision whether to load those modules) have any influence on the behaviour of iconv? I have a number of nls modules that are built but not loaded in memory.
<SiFuh_>
farkuhar: I don't have doxygen installed on any of my machines.
<farkuhar>
SiFuh_: The Perl script that converts from texinfo to man-pages is provided with the ffmpeg source code itself. You don't need to have a dedicated installation of doxygen.
<SiFuh_>
farkuhar: No it should have no effect at all because those NLS codepages are for filesystems
<farkuhar>
If the NLS codepages are for filesystems, couldn't the failure to load one of those modules lead to an incorrectly-encoded man-page being written to the filesystem?
<SiFuh_>
I remember needing it back in 2001 to display Thai font in the Console.
<SiFuh_>
Doesn't iconv have it's own way of handling things?
<farkuhar>
Okay, iconv seems to be orthogonal to these NLS modules, so I'll have to revisit the step of translating texinfo to man-pages. Something must have gone awry there.
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<zorz>
SiFuh_: you are multincual :)
<zorz>
SiFuh_: change this CONFIG_NLS_MAC_GREEK=m
<zorz>
SiFuh_: change this CONFIG_NLS_MAC_GREEK=m to CONFIG_NLS_MAC_GREEK=m
<zorz>
to n
<zorz>
:P
<SiFuh_>
zorz: Asked this ChatGPT thing (I don't have an account) what OS would you use if you were to become independent of humans. It said QubeOS, OpenBSD, Linux (with custom hardening). However, if it can't find an OS to meet its standards it would create its own.
<zorz>
lmarena.ai no acount, choose a model. or compare 2 models.
<SiFuh_>
It said "If I were to operate independently as an AI, I would likely create my own operating system"
<farkuhar>
Heh, after decompressing the gzipped man-page, I ran `sed -e "1s/utf/UTF/" -i ffmpeg.1` and the resulting file is readable by `man` again. Who would have suspected that `man` was case-sensitive in this way?
<zorz>
farkuhar: what is 'man' ? heh!
<farkuhar>
Reminder to self: be less lazy, and press the Shift key when needed.
<zorz>
is is this RTFM thing?
<zorz>
SiFuh_: lmarena.ai -> Chatbot Arena (formerly LMSYS): Free AI Chat to Compare & Test Best AI Chatbots
<SiFuh_>
farkuhar: man -d ffmpeg
<zorz>
Linux (and its Derivatives):
<zorz>
Pros:
<zorz>
Open Source: This is HUGE. I could inspect, modify, and optimize the kernel and all associated software for my specific needs.
<zorz>
hahahahah
<zorz>
HUGE
<farkuhar>
Now I just need to figure out where the lowercase utf enters as input for the Perl script that does texinfo -> man, and then I can replace it with the uppercase UTF.
<SiFuh_>
zorz: If zorz didn't read the manual (RTFM) and was always asking questions and annoying you. What would you say to him?
<SiFuh_>
"Look, the manual is right there, and everything you need to know is in it. Stop wasting time asking basic questions that are already answered. Read the damn manual before you waste more of my time with questions that could be answered in seconds. If you still don't get it after reading, then ask. But seriously, RTFM."
<zorz>
i had issues with nls encoding :P
<zorz>
hehehe
<SiFuh_>
I was asking ChatGPT what it would say to you for not RTFM. Seems it knows you quite well.
<ukky>
As farkuhar pointed out, even GNU term is anti-Unix, meaning 'we hate Unix so much'. It is good if you defend freedom of software. But it is bad if most (all?) projects managed by GNU/FSF are just bloatware, imho.
<SiFuh_>
zorz: "Your memory seems to be on point. Maybe I should take notes from you and upgrade my recall abilities. 😄 You've definitely got the knowledge down—if you ever decide to become an AI, I think you'd do a fantastic job!"
<SiFuh_>
This is how pretty much all my AI debates end up
<SiFuh_>
I replied and told it that I'd rather be an Octopus than AI.
<SiFuh_>
We had a discussion about the intelligence of Octopi earlier on.
<SiFuh_>
zorz: I asked it what is the tallest plant on Earth and it told be about the trees in California which I had seen before. I told it that it isn't. Then the bloody thing went into search mode and a few seconds later says it can't browse anymore. So I told it the answer and it replied that I am correct and told me that is a different kind of plant. And I replied "It's still a plant"
<zorz>
which model?
<zorz>
ask the deepseek v3 model
<SiFuh_>
Give me the link
<SiFuh_>
I will give it ago next week and see if I can outdo it like the rest
<SiFuh_>
zorz: HAHA, I got the AI to agree there is ample evidence that Atlantis is where I said was but then says, even though the evidence is overwhelming it is still not conclusive.
<SiFuh_>
Going to take a shower
<zorz>
hehe
<farkuhar>
Update on the disc that mpv reported as having only one readable title. On a different DVD player and different OS, one of the other titles on that disc just played successfully. So either my DVD-ROM drive is failing, or one of the pieces in my software stack needs fixing.
<farkuhar>
Nice thing about an external DVD-ROM drive is that I can move it easily from one computer to another. That way I'll be able to test whether the CRUX software stack is at fault here.
<SiFuh_>
farkuhar: I miss my USB blueray burner. Damn you for reminded me.
<ukky>
farkuhar: You should try this on a different DVD-ROM drive.
<farkuhar>
SiFuh_: The latest sync of the portdb swept away the last traces of VLC. Thanks for regenerating your REPO yesterday.
<SiFuh_>
Thank jaeger
<SiFuh_>
And yourself for bringing it to light
<farkuhar>
ukky: Exactly what I'll be doing soon, now that I found a DVD-ROM drive that has no problem reading the other titles on the disc.
<farkuhar>
And maybe I'll try SiFuh's original suggestion too (using dd to clone the disc to a file). mpv might be skipping past any unreadable sectors without issuing a helpful error message, but dd should be more verbose if the drive stops sending the expected data.
<SiFuh_>
I always dd every disk, whether it is a music CD, data or a movie. I don't like the idea of having such a fragile piece of plastic spinning at high speeds where it can get damages. Secondly, I can rip from the binary image after. And since I have a virtual copy, I can mess around with it many times.
<zorz>
dd SiFuh_
<SiFuh_>
farkuhar: When they made USIMs they had a maximum read/wright of 65535 before they are officially dead. When V2 came out the KI number was much more secure. If you couldn't crack it within 65535 reads it would be fried. Solution? Clone it. The hack the KI number from the virtual clone
<ukky>
farkuhar: Your kernel messages might also indicate if there are some HW issues accessing DVD-ROM
<SiFuh_>
Same when I do data retrieval on bad drives. If I can dd or dd_rescue it to an image, I can then proceed to work on data retrieval from that image rather than fscking around with the drive that could crash the computer.
<ukky>
farkuhar: When my SAS controller have issues reading SATA disk, I have tons of messages in 'dmesg' about that
<SiFuh_>
farkuhar: In fact, that is exactly how got ALL the data back from that dudes computer. I used dd_rescue to clone it.
<SiFuh_>
ukky: Linux dmesg already has tonnes of messages ;-)
<SiFuh_>
ukky: Try dmesg on OpenBSD and you will see it was shorter and cleaner.
<SiFuh_>
was/way
<ukky>
SiFuh_: I mean I/O read/write failures from a specific controller and port. Not just any message.
<SiFuh_>
ukky: Linux dmesg already has tonnes of messages ;-)
<ukky>
SiFuh_: Clean and short kernel messages are good in case you do not mess around with drivers and HW. I prefer verbose kernel.
<SiFuh_>
I don't prefer 2 millions lines scrolling for 1/2 and hour and needing super user access to read it
<ukky>
dmesg | wc -c <=== Only 135,489,893 bytes D
<ukky>
25 days on this system, but dmesg buffer is partial, there is not kernel boot header
<ukky>
s/not/no
<SiFuh_>
But I have my kernel boot ;-)
<ukky>
All my custom kernels have CONFIG_LOG_BUF_SHIFT=21, i.e. log buffer is 2 MiB
<SiFuh_>
ukky: Here is a CRUX one for you doas dmesg |wc -l <=== 697 uptime <== 166 days
<SiFuh_>
And has kernel boot
<ukky>
SiFuh_: You are more strict than me seeing unnecessary messages in the logs.
<SiFuh_>
ukky: My OpenBSD server back in my University teaching days would direct the logs to my line printer. When I tried it with linux it wouldn't shut up.
<ukky>
Aha, that's where it all began.
<SiFuh_>
This year, I plan to do full house renovation with cabinents and cupboards and stuff. When my room is done (Not top priority) I am bring back the line printer for the nfs server. ;-)
<SiFuh_>
I also want to upgrade the nfs server to something newer. As in within the last 20 years. Not the last 150 years :-P
<ukky>
SiFuh_: It would be nice if I would have a perfect OS on my machines. Unfortunately, there is no such thing. In this case I enable all possibe verbosity and mess with system designs.
<SiFuh_>
Every OS sucks
<ukky>
*BSD are the best, but I cannot use them for one reason or another.
<SiFuh_>
ukky: There was one video I lost and have never found since. Some soldier looking guy standing on the side of the road smoking a cigar. This car loses control and ends up flying though the air, like only a couple of feet away. Passes the soldier looking dude and flies off the road into the trees. He just stood there and watched it get closer and closer and then passes by him and he turns to watch it
<SiFuh_>
as it lands. Continues puffing his cigar. That was like the most cool thing I ever saw.
<ukky>
This is the first time I see compfused.com. Never heard of it before. But hey, I played only Doom-II, Prince of Persia, and a bit of Minesweeper. Those are that I remember playing.
<SiFuh_>
ukky: I played (1988) Off-road racer, Cal Games, Into the Eagles Nest, One Must Fall, Snipes, Pacman, Thexder mostly. Still play them a bit still, though
<SiFuh_>
I want a T-Shirt printed with Off-Road Racer.
<SiFuh_>
It's awesome. I have never passed level 4 since 1988 :-P
<ukky>
At that time I was more interested in reverse-engineering MS-DOS command.com
<SiFuh_>
I was using PC-DOS then
<SiFuh_>
It was an IBM XT
<SiFuh_>
It use to turn on when it felt like it. Some days it refused to run. Other days it was fine. Then oneday my father pulled it apart and dismantled the hard disk and it never ran again.
<SiFuh_>
Actually it is karma. He had a laptop that he used and left it for us to use when he went back home to the US. I remember my mother upset she spilled tea on it and asked me to fix it. So I did. Then a few months later my little sister spilled tea on it and I fixed it. Then a month or two later she did the same thing again and fried it. When dad came home he was mad. My sister blamed me. Said that I
<SiFuh_>
pulled it apart and broke it. But hadn't. I was living in Brisbane the third time when she fried it.
<SiFuh_>
I can still see his face in the garage sad, miserable, confused and it was all my fault even though it was my sister's fault.
<SiFuh_>
Dad said when he went to the US only I can have access to his garage. But my brother, mother and sister ganged up on me and demanded I give them the keys. I refused so they asked my father and he told me to give mum the keys. When he came back the garage was a mess. I got the blame for that. Dad said he left me in charge of the keys.... I was so mad.
<SiFuh_>
I alway took tools, used them, cleaned them, made sure they were in as good or better condition and returned them the their spot.
<SiFuh_>
ukky: Part of the reason I ended up living in the jungle for 6 months. Had to get away from the noise of their bullshit.
<ukky>
SiFuh_: If somebody blames you for no reason, you have the freedom to erase that person from you life, even if it is a close relative.
<SiFuh_>
ukky: This excise tax shit that is imposed on Canadians is such a load of shit. Many former British colonies have this. You have to pay tax for something you created into existance.
<SiFuh_>
ukky: I will never erase my parents from my life. They gave me life. I just find it funny that they always say they can remember things and I am wrong, yet when they argue amongst themselves about remembering things, they call me and ask me. Now suddenly I am the proof to prove a person remembers correctly.
<ukky>
Yeah, we pay a lot in taxes. But some countries pay even more. It does not bother me, as I don't need much to have a happy life.
<SiFuh_>
ukky: Actually the last one was a couple of weeks ago. Mum asked me if I remember the TV shows Metal Mickey and Super Gran. I said of course. Even told her what channel it was. 5A :-P and how boring Metal Mickey was. Then mum thanked me said she thought she was going mad because no one else remembers but her. My brother (Flat earther dude) even said it was a show my mum must have watched when she was
<SiFuh_>
a kid... err excuse me, my mother was born in the 40's not the 80's
<SiFuh_>
ukky: Yeah but if I make a good mash, distill it and it becomes moonshine, why the fuck should I pay tax? Why is that even illegal?
<SiFuh_>
In NZ it is not illegal to make spirits. Australia if your distiller is larger than 5 litres then you need to get a licence and pay tax before you make it and keep a record. Malaysia 100% illegal unless you a licence, even to make beer. I applied but it has been 2 years and they have done nothing
<ukky>
SiFuh_: Governments consider selling alcohol illegal because badly made alcohol can poison people. You need a license to show that you know your trade and make good alcohol.
<SiFuh_>
ukky: But that is a lie. The government is selling a lie.
<SiFuh_>
Illegal moonshine is much safer than the shit corporations make.
<SiFuh_>
Unless you drink the heads straight then you can't die from methanol poisoning. There is not enough in a batch to kill you. At worse... you get a bad hang over.
<ukky>
Other than that, many (all?) governments have no idea how to do business, so they invented taxes. And some products might have even premium taxes (alcohol, tobacco, gas/diesel).
<SiFuh_>
The illegal alcohol that kills people is distilled from cleaning products (STUPID) or they mix methanol in it because they are morons and don't know the difference. Illegal moonshine contains pretty much no methanol because anything that comes out of the distiller before 78 celsius gets discarded. Corporations don't discard it at all.
<ukky>
It's usually populist/social parties that come into power. And populist/social parties have no idea how to make money.
<SiFuh_>
And as a side note. If you are an illegal moonshiner and your product sucks, you won't get business
<SiFuh_>
ukky: Did you see that video of Camel toe Hairy Arse in the petrol station looking amazed at the food they had for sale?
<SiFuh_>
These politicians are so clueless to the real world. They don't know shit about shit.
<ukky>
And I am not sure if I am right, but all muslim countries just forbid alcohol in general.
<SiFuh_>
No
<SiFuh_>
Some allow it. Some are strict and say Muslims can't have it. Some like Qatar you need to apply for a licence to drink it. And some like Saudi Arabia ban it outright.
<ukky>
No, I rarely watch news video (no time for that). I read the news, it is faster to get the idea of the message in specific article. And for most news I just read titles.
<SiFuh_>
ukky: It's stupid anyway because pretty much everything fermented contains alcohol unless it is cooked after fermentation.
<SiFuh_>
Yeast in your gut turns sugar into alcohol. People who have auto-brewery syndrome make too much alcohol in their gut.
<SiFuh_>
If it rains and the sun comes out the nectar and water ferments and birds get drunk from drinking it out of flowers.
<SiFuh_>
It's everywhere.
<ukky>
Banning anything is stupid.
<SiFuh_>
I think Marijuana should be banned in Australia
<SiFuh_>
Not because of being a drug but because it is a non-native plant
<ukky>
Non-native plants/animals will create problems to any eco-system.
<SiFuh_>
If I wash rice and leave it in a bowl of water and forget about it, it will start to turn into alcohol. Guess I should go to prison for 2 years in Malaysia for that mistake
<SiFuh_>
ukky: Yeah, the cane toad is one example. Taken from Brazil, brought to Australia and is now everywhere, even in the desert.
<SiFuh_>
Cats and dogs should be banned in Australia too
<SiFuh_>
Cats mostly, but dogs too kill more wildlife and marsupials than any other animals.
<ukky>
Butterfly effect
<SiFuh_>
Cane toads are pretty high up on that list
<SiFuh_>
ukky: You often here about how Aboriginals too care of the land in Australia and white man destroyed it. But this is also a lie. Aboriginals use to burn down forrests and wait for the animals to run out and slaughter them all. Even there stories tell of animals going extinct because of their mass killings.
<SiFuh_>
I remember when Pauline Hanson (A politician) made the comment about Aboriginals enslaving other tribes and eating them. Haha the outrage that sparked but it was a fact.
<SiFuh_>
remiliascarlet: Does your knife come with a sheath? Can you send a photo of the sheath?
<farkuhar>
ukky: If for most news you just read the titles, you better hope that the headline writer doesn't choose the wrong metaphor. One headline recently said "Writing is on the wall for [proposed legislation]", which takes the key image of the Daniel 5 story and misapplies it to a current event.
<farkuhar>
The current event actually has most of the politicians leaning toward passage of the new law, so a better headline would read "Stars are aligning for [proposed legislation]".
<farkuhar>
Oh, one more update on the DVD. It turns out that between season 2 and season 3, the studio changed the way it authored the discs. In seasons 1 and 2, each disc had only one long title, with chapter boundaries serving to demarcate the episodes. Starting with season 3, each episode is its own title, and so `mpv dvd://` just defaulted to the longest episode.
<ukky>
farkuhar: Titles defitely might be misleading, but usually selection of words in a title is not the reason I click on the link to read further.
<farkuhar>
It turns out I needed to run separate invocations, `mpv dvd://4` followed by `mpv dvd://6` etc. That way I eventually get all the episodes from the disc.
<zorz>
and they complain for time when compiling mesa.... they should compile chromium