<SiFuh_>
ukky: Perfect design for people who don't use toilet paper
<remiliascarlet>
uwumeowmoewnyaa: "Who was thought to be a bad guy in history but turned out to be good?" Your mom?
<ukky>
SiFuh_: That is not the reason I need this kettle for. I need to upgade my kettle for making pour-over coffee.
<SiFuh_>
ukky: We were looking for something like this for when we go camping.
<SiFuh_>
ukky: I was looking for a bucket of water in Kyrgyzstan. They handed me one of those. :-P That's where the joke came from.
<remiliascarlet>
uwumeowmoewnyaa: #crux used to be as lively as this channel is, but then we were told to fuck off, and now #crux is a dead channel.
<ukky>
SiFuh_: The handle in the kettle I was asking about is bonded using spot welding. And I do not like that, it may not hold for very long.
<remiliascarlet>
ukky: No, I don't know.
<ukky>
remiliascarlet: okay
<SiFuh_>
ukky: Spot welding because it is so thin.
<ukky>
SiFuh_: You might be right. Specs says wall thickness is 0.7mm. Having a weight of 902g, spot welding is probably the most appropriate. I'm gonna buy it.
<remiliascarlet>
The only thing I can advice you, if you buy anything that is meant to heat up, make sure the hand grip is made out of anything but metal or plastic. With metal you'll burn your hand, and with plastic it'll trip microplastics onto your hand.
<remiliascarlet>
s/trip/drip
<ukky>
remiliascarlet: I don't like plastic anywhere, so metal handle is good. And I can put BBQ glove onto my hand to avoid the burn.
<remiliascarlet>
Ubisoft went full woke and microtransactions, their CEO told gamers to get used to not own anything and be happy (he literally did), and now they're about to go out of business. Speaking of karma!
<remiliascarlet>
ukky: "I don't like plastic anywhere," I agree, plastic is for the slaves.
<ukky>
remiliascarlet: My reasons are different. Plastic is not appropriate in tools that we use often and for long time (like for 20 years). Plastic just breaks.
<remiliascarlet>
Every material just breaks at some point.
<remiliascarlet>
It's just that some materials take longer to break than others.
<ukky>
Yes, thus we have to be picky even choosing metals.
<SiFuh_>
Plastic is awesome. Problem is that they make it so cheap as possible it lacks quality and crumbles in short periods of time..
<SiFuh_>
ukky: If that handle ever comes off it would be easy to attach with stainless rivets
<ukky>
Polyurethane is one of the plastics that might be okay in machinery. Other kinds are too brittle.
<ukky>
SiFuh_: I may try. But drilling stainless steel is painful.
<SiFuh_>
Polyurethane is awesome
<SiFuh_>
ukky: I know ;-) I build my moonshine distillers out of stainless steel
<SiFuh_>
Do not drill too fast. Keep it lubicrated. Do not let the metal heat up and use a good drill bit :-P
<SiFuh_>
I use WD40 or RP7 for lubricating the steel
<ukky>
WD40 is not lubricant. It is a rust cleaner.
<SiFuh_>
No that's Coca Cola.
<ukky>
Ha
<SiFuh_>
Coca Cola + aluminium foil
<SiFuh_>
What I use to clean and polish my exhaust pipe for my motorcycle in Australia
<ukky>
You could you 1 part sugar, 1 part water. Should be the same formula as Coca Cola.
<SiFuh_>
ukky: Do they use polyethylene bumpers for vehicles over there in Canada?
<ukky>
s/could you/could use/
<SiFuh_>
Coca Cola would be 1 part water 10 parts sugar and 89 parts Aspartame
<ukky>
SiFuh_: About 20 years ago, yes. But now it is plastic that breaks on collision.
<SiFuh_>
We have these they are spring loaded so if you hit a Kangaroo it catapults them away from your vehicle.
<ukky>
I think mud fenders/flaps are made of some plastic similar to polyurethane/polyethylene
<SiFuh_>
polypropylene
<SiFuh_>
ukky: When I closed my HSBC bank account. The lady asked the reason for closing and I said because HSBC keeps sending me stupid emails and there is no unsubscribe option. After I close my account I get an email from HSBC asking me do a survey. So I ignore it. Then it sent me another email a week later informing me that they sent me an email with a survey in it.
<ukky>
You know cars better than me.
<SiFuh_>
Nah, it is just the type of plastic they use because it needs some flex without snapping
<SiFuh_>
You will find them on bicycles and motorcross bikes
<SiFuh_>
remiliascarlet: The tea bags analyzed were made from nylon-6, polypropylene, and cellulose. The findings revealed that: Polypropylene released approximately 1.2 billion particles per milliliter, averaging 136.7 nanometers in size. Cellulose emitted around 135 million particles per milliliter, with an average size of 244 nanometers. Nylon-6 released about 8.18 million particles per milliliter,
<SiFuh_>
averaging 138.4 nanometers in size.
<SiFuh_>
ukky: So this plastic is also used in teabags. Ewwwwww
<SiFuh_>
Dear valued customers, Please be informed that effective 1 January 2024, all goods purchased online from overseas sellers with a value below RM500 or classified as Low Value Goods (“LVG”) will be subject to a 10% sales tax, in accordance with the directive from Jabatan Kastam Diraja Malaysia (JKDM).
<SiFuh_>
So I need to pay 10% Service and Sales Tax and then another 10% for Low Value Goods.
<uwumeowmoewnyaa>
These particles end up in your testicles, remiliascarlet.
<SiFuh_>
uwumeowmoewnyaa: Hahaha, remiliascarlet is immune to that
<ukky>
Haha
<ukky>
It seems like AI cannot distinguish male from female
<uwumeowmoewnyaa>
The chances of a ``female'' having testicles are low but never zero these days. Especially on the Internet.
<SiFuh_>
ukky: This comedian says something like this. Best thing about breaking your knee is you get Oxycodone after the surgery. That's cool, but I didn't get to take any, had to sell it on the black market to pay for my medical bills.
<ukky>
Haha
<ukky>
I had a prescription for 8 pills (some Oxy), but I didn't use it and threw it away after my pain was gone.
<SiFuh_>
I don't use their medication at all. I won't even take it when they try to hand it to me.
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<SiFuh_>
remiliascarlet: They only had dead chicken and dead pig. I asked why they don't have dead cow and the guy says "We are Chinese. Chinese are Buddhist. Buddhist can't eat beef" I said "Yes you can. Just stick a fork in it. Pick it up. Put it in your mouth, chew and swallow" He laughed and then I said "Buddhist shouldn't eat ANY meat of ANY kind" He said "No, we can" I asked "So what is so special about
<SiFuh_>
a cow then?" He couldn't answer and I said "Buddhists are not suppose to eat animal meat because it could be a reincarnated ancestor. Are you afraid all your dead relatives came back as cows?"
<SiFuh_>
remiliascarlet: Anyway, I decided to just eat vegetarian fried rice with eggs and... I have zero energy today.
<SiFuh_>
If everything tastes like Chicken, then why don't Chicken Eggs taste like Chicken?
<SiFuh_>
Well, guess I can't finish doing that car's protective coat tonight. It started raining and it is a good thing I didn't crack open the enamel because it must be sprayed on to the vehicle within 4 hours.
<farkuhar>
SiFuh_: When you opened your HSBC bank account, did you not have the option of giving them a throwaway email address (one that you could deactivate later if it started receiving junk)?
<SiFuh_>
farkuhar: My email is already on the HSBC servers but for the Australian account.
<farkuhar>
Heh, too late to do anything about it then.
<SiFuh_>
farkuhar: The problem is that it is illegal to send messages of any kind without the option to 'opt out/unsubscribe' in Australia and they don't seem to have this law in Malaysia since it was HSBC's marketing department selling me stupid emails about beware of scammers and shit.
<SiFuh_>
selling/sending
<SiFuh_>
I know how the banking system works better than most of the people that work at HSBC. There is nothing you can teach me. Give me a real tech guy, not some bullshit marketing department.
<SiFuh_>
farkuhar: I don't see anything in the Ebay policies about sellers not posting packages on time.
<zorz>
Hisense TV sucks... need to burn the subtitles
<farkuhar>
Even if HSBC or its partners did include an 'opt out/unsubscribe' link in their stupid emails, is the Australian law strong enough to ensure that they respect your unsubscribe request? I suspect they might plead innocence and say it was some third party that managed to discover your email address.
<zorz>
only Europe mica
<farkuhar>
Apple's reputation for intuitive UX might take a hit after the latest update to their iOS weather app. There are now two icons associated with snow: a cloud with asterisk-shaped snowflakes underneath, and a single (enlarged) snowflake. How is the user supposed to infer two different meanings from these icons (without mouseover text or other clues)?
<SiFuh_>
farkuhar: ANY company that includes overseas
<SiFuh_>
If HSBC used another company, then that company would get fined.
<farkuhar>
My first thought: the single enlarged snowflake is meant to imply that the snowfall is so heavy, it obscures the view of the clouds that it came from. Whereas the icon with clouds is meant to imply such a low rate of snowfall that the clouds are still visible when you look up.
<farkuhar>
I remember the good old days when software came in a box, with a printed manual that described all the icons you might encounter. Nowadays all you get is a PDF or online manual, and even that sometimes requires a follow-up visit to the software creator's website.
<SiFuh_>
Doesn't the large one mean it snowed and coming from the cloud means heavy snow?
<farkuhar>
You just proved my point: it requires a follow-up visit to the software creator's website. They've successfully trained users not to expect offline documentation any more.
<SiFuh_>
farkuhar: Like my Moden in the late 90's where the manual said if you can't get online, please go to this website for advice.
<farkuhar>
HAHAHA, how were you supposed to get online in the late 90's without a modem?
<farkuhar>
Well, supposedly Weird Al Yankovic "had a T1 line in [his] house" by 1999 (Running with Scissors), so I guess that counts as late 90's.
<SiFuh_>
It's all about the Pentium!
<farkuhar>
Speaking of printed manuals explaining the graphics, I remember at least one commercial game that relied on such a manual to discourage unauthorized copying. To get past the welcome screen in Commander Keen 6, you have to give the correct in-world name of a randomly-selected creature, based on the pictures and descriptions in the manual.
<farkuhar>
Nowadays you can look up all those names in Wikipedia, so the copy-prevention mechanism is no longer very effective.
<ukky>
Does anybody use 'top' from core/procps in Crux? Does 'top' leak memory on your system?
<remiliascarlet>
uwumeowmoewnyaa: Real females never have testicles. If they have, then they're really just men on drugs (HRT).
<ukky>
remiliascarlet: uwumeowmoewnyaa thinks that you are male pretending to be a female
<remiliascarlet>
Maybe, but then again, he also thinks that CRUX is actually CRUX GNU/Linux, so not really something to take seriously.
<ukky>
Saying 'CRUX GNU/Linux' is stupidity (after we pointed to the mistake). Saying 'remiliascarlet is male' is ignorance.
<SiFuh_>
ukky: Or she is a male and everyone is just gullible ;-)
<ukky>
SiFuh_ would figure out whether remiliascarlet just pretends to be female.
<SiFuh_>
ukky: Yep. :-P The way she talks is actually what gave it away that she was female.
<ukky>
SiFuh_ would be a good detective. Picky. Attention to details. Good memory.
<SiFuh_>
Batman!
<SiFuh_>
Spenser: For Hire ;-)
<SiFuh_>
Columbo !!!!
<ukky>
SiFuh_: Can you run '/usr/bin/top -c -d 0.1' on your Crux system and check whether 'RES' memory grows for 'top', please?
<SiFuh_>
Box one, nope. Box two still watching.....
<SiFuh_>
ukky: Nope. Both just seem to hover up and down a little but nothing growing
<SiFuh_>
It is hard to see box one properly because it flashes too fast
<SiFuh_>
ukky: Seems to sit at 4224 on both machines
<ukky>
Thanks for testing! It's just me then. Two boxes, top leaks memory crasy fast with 0.1s poll rate.
<ukky>
But your systems are lean and just have like 10 processes running
<SiFuh_>
117 task and 143 tasks
<ukky>
My system at home: ps ax | wc -l : 8542
<SiFuh_>
Damn
<SiFuh_>
Even my main machine OpenBSD only has 142
<SiFuh_>
The server has only 70
<ukky>
My OpenBSD test system has only 37
<SiFuh_>
Legendary
<SiFuh_>
ukky: 9Front 78
<ukky>
I think that you need a special condition for the 'top' to start leaking memory. This problem bothers me since I switched to Crux.
<SiFuh_>
ukky: It sounded more like Forest Gump type of Special Conditions ;-)
<ukky>
Why developers have this excuse???: 'the memory leak is small and makes other parts more efficient'
<SiFuh_>
ukky: ask zorz. He's an expert on that sought of thing. If his code appears to work, he is satisfied.
<ukky>
This is defititely a SystemD-style of designing software.
<SiFuh_>
It's the return of the greatest Virus ever made. Microsoft Windows. Slowly munching away, devouring Linux from within until one day y'all be lookin' at Windows and no longer Linux.
<ukky>
Totally agree.
<SiFuh_>
What's his name? Lemming pot something.
<SiFuh_>
Lennart Poettering
<SiFuh_>
Lennart Poettering (born 15 October 1980) is a German software engineer working for Microsoft and the original author of PulseAudio, Avahi and systemd.
<SiFuh_>
Wonder why he would work for Microsoft. That is kind of like a target for all kinds of things
<ukky>
All of his work has been permanently blacklisted on my systems.
<ukky>
You cannot change your way of thinking when developing software.
<SiFuh_>
Avahi? WTF is that
<ukky>
Avahi is zeroconf something. To provide 169.0.0.1/8 or something
<ukky>
To have network until real network is configured and esteblished.
<SiFuh_>
Seems I have avahi-libs installed for gvfs
<ukky>
SystemD wanted to become part of Linux kernel.
<SiFuh_>
Jonathan Corbet's writings flow nice, so they make it quite easy to read.
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<farkuhar>
avahi in CRUX is not a hard dependency for anything, but it is a soft dependency for cups-browsed, cups-filters, distcc, kodi-gbm, mpd, ostree, pipewire and a few others. Regarding gvfs, the first hit I followed in the portdb (jolupalabs) does not seem to need avahi, but maybe that version is older than what SiFuh has.