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<SiFuh_>
My mother makes the blackest black puding, even the white bits are black.
<SiFuh_>
It were always raining in Denley Moor, except on days when it were fine. And there weren't many of them. Not if you include drizzle as rain. And even if it weren't drizzling, it were overcast, and there were a lot of moisture in the air. You'd come home damp as if it had been raining, even though there hadn't actually been evidence of precipitation in the rain gauge outside the town hall.
<farkuhar>
Hyperkitty seems to have trouble comparing dates. One of the threads in the CRUX mailing list archives gets retrieved with the metadata "Age: 140 (days ago), Last active: 226 (days ago)". How is that possible? Is Hyperkitty naively trusting the date inserted by someone's mail user agent, without bothering to verify against the timestamps of the intermediate servers?
<SiFuh_>
farkuhar: Daryl F wrote the message 226 days ago and Tim replied to the thread 140 days ago
<SiFuh_>
24 Apr 2024 and 19 Jul 2024
<farkuhar>
SiFuh_: I would expect the labels "Age" and "Last active" to be applied the other way around. "Age" referring to when the thread was started, and "Last active" referring to when the thread last received a reply. Speaking of which, stenur's replies within the last month should have triggered an update to one of those numbers, yet they both are still in the triple digits.
<SiFuh_>
farkuhar: Me too. And if you scroll down. Daryl F replied on the 26th, 2 days after
<farkuhar>
Apart from the failure to update the numbers upon stenur's recent replies, could it be a stylesheet issue? Does "Age" get aligned next to 226, and "Last active" next to 140, if we apply a different Hyperkitty layout?
<SiFuh_>
I'd prefer "Created 226 days ago" "Last active 140 days ago"
<SiFuh_>
"Initial Thread Started 226 days ago"
<farkuhar>
What was wrong with the old pipermail interface? beerman could have left it in place, rather than installing this Hyperkitty crap.
<farkuhar>
I find it amusing that zorz looked for a literal interpretation of SiFuh_'s insult "void fags", rather than just reading it as an expression of annoyance. Someone should remind zorz about the liberties that native speakers often take, in applying derogatory labels beyond the group they originally described.
<farkuhar>
I'm also amused to see SiFuh_ describe the creator of Void as a "moron" in one sentence, and one minute later claim to have "liked void under Juan and his work".
<SiFuh_>
farkuhar: Well I can and I did and that's the way it works. The otherday I said that Jeff Berwick's speeches are 85% bullshit but I could hang out with him and I like listening to his speeches.
<farkuhar>
The other 18:52 post can be interpreted as applying the label "moron" to anyone with a history of involvement in NetBSD, so of course Juan would be painted with the same broad brush. Such fraternal rivalry is what you'd expect from an OpenBSD partisan, so reading deeper into the "moron" insult is just as unwarranted as zorz trying to make sense of "void fags".
<SiFuh_>
Hmm, let me re-read it
<SiFuh_>
Ahh I see. I was meaning that he left NetBSD to create a Linux similar to NetBSD. So he's a moron in that regard
<SiFuh_>
farkuhar: It would be really good if it wasn't technically hijacked from him by the Linux fucktards
<farkuhar>
Meanwhile, on the pubnix that has always been powered by NetBSD, someone recently had the audacity to suggest that they migrate to OmniOSce (a Solaris derivative).
<SiFuh_>
The last OpenSolaris release was the best. Shame they stopped creating it.
<SiFuh_>
I use to run it on one of my laptops and whenever the girl came to visit she'd hop on and start using it without any problems
<farkuhar>
At the uni where I worked about 20 years ago, most of the desktop PCs in my department were thin clients logging into Solaris. A few years later the admins replaced this setup and deployed one of the mainstream Linux distros on brand-new Dell machines. Alas, I never got a chance to learn much Solaris from the previous setup.
<SiFuh_>
About 20 years ago?
<SiFuh_>
Ours were all Windows. Except the Computer Centre had Linux machines managed by me. OpenBSD for my server, CRUX Linux for my desktop. Science department was all Windows except two machines. One Redhat and one OpenBSD. The engineering department was all Windows except one admin used FreeBSD on his machines.
<SiFuh_>
Barack Obama Accuses Republicans Of Rigging Elections, Weaponizing DOJ
<SiFuh_>
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
<SiFuh_>
farkuhar: I know a guy just like him in real life. He is from Thailand. His parents actually ran away from home. They left him with the house and they moved far away from him and never gave their new address out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYpsz2eAKOs
<SiFuh_>
farkuhar: Here is another one for you. I hate listening to Greg Reese talking in interviews. It is so painful to listen. He is all over the place and stumbling over words and saying 'emm' a lot. He begins a sentence, then changes it, then changes it again, then goes to a completely different sentence.
<SiFuh_>
However, he makes short videos where he narrates and they are short, to the point and are insanely awesome.
<farkuhar>
The GNU Mailman v3 page gives three reasons under "Why HyperKitty?", including scalability (handling hundreds of thousands of messages per day), standards-compliant HTML, and new technologies such as AJAX. The CRUX mailing lists shouldn't come anywhere close to the limits of pipermail's scalability, and I wouldn't think AJAX is a highly-demanded feature among CRUX users.
<farkuhar>
https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/hyperkitty/en/latest/ The only bullet point that remains is standards-compliant HTML, but for that shortcoming of pipermail, surely there are ways to patch it in-place, without reaching for the shiny new HyperKitty.
<SiFuh_>
farkuhar: Better to ask Tim Beergut
<farkuhar>
Maybe beerman actually envisions a future where his build farm is generating hundreds of thousands of commits each day (python3-this, python3-that, ...), each of which triggers its own automated email to CRUX-commits. I can't imagine anyone would want to navigate a web-based GNU Mailman archive to see those commits, when they could page through the git log directly.
<SiFuh_>
I just think he is showing off actually
<farkuhar>
Considering only the mailing lists that receive more of their traffic from human authors rather than bots --- CRUX-contrib, CRUX-devel, and CRUX --- the volume of traffic is nowhere near pipermail's limits. At least with pipermail you could navigate the archives using lynx, which I believe is no longer possible when AJAX is involved.
<SiFuh_>
Like I said last year. If he doesn't use it or need it he dumps it. Everything is being slowly moulded around what he wants and he tries to sell his way all the time.
<SiFuh_>
If he had it his way, CRUX would only have gayland.
<SiFuh_>
But he is subtly pushing it.
<SiFuh_>
He doesn't give a damn who relies on that software, he only cares about what he uses.
<farkuhar>
Good thing I downloaded a snapshot of all the mailing list archives in mbox format, an option that pipermail prominently offered before beerman took it down. If I wanted to set up a console-only CRUX machine (no graphical environment), I could still open those mbox files in mutt, even though the web archives are no longer compatible with lynx.
<SiFuh_>
Well, my CRUX box has no GUI at all.
<SiFuh_>
I've been planning to install CRUX-MUSL on the laptop. Not sure when I get around to it since I am busy for awhile. I am not even sure when I come back from the Jungle. I intend to leave tomorrow and I need to be back by Friday night.
<farkuhar>
Belay my last. It looks like lynx actually can handle the responses from HyperKitty. The HTML output degrades gracefully when retrieved by a less-capable client like lynx.
<SiFuh_>
farkuhar: Women are weird dude. I ask her to go camping and she says "No!" I said "But I want to" She says "You can go alone" I said "I will". Several days later all my gear is ready to be packed into the car and she was making up reasons and excuses why I shouldn't go. Heh
<SiFuh_>
My wife knows that if I go jungle/forest/bush in Australia for a night, I might not be back for over 6 months. So maybe that is why she is trying to talk me out of it.