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<yagkasha>
in slime, at the repl, how do I get enter to insert a newline? Enter is bound to slime-repl-return.
<beach>
C-q C-j maybe?
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<yagkasha>
beach: thanks! turns out C-j is enough
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<beach>
Oh, OK.
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<yagkasha>
is there something like fzf for slime for narrowing down searching for last commands?
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<beach>
I am always puzzled by this way of asking questions. They seem to either assume that everyone knows the software they are referring to, or deliberately limiting the question to those who know.
<beach>
yagkasha: M-r and then type some thing to search for? Since I don't know what fzf is, this is very likely wrong, though.
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<yottabyte>
hello, in emacs you can go to the start or end of the parentheses to highlight the parentheses of the form, but is there a way to make it do that even if I'm in the middle of it? it would help me visualize things better
<yottabyte>
perhaps a question for #emacs, but I figured I'd ask it here first
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<Odin-FOO>
yottabyte: It's definitely possible, but I don't know of anything ready-made.
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<yottabyte>
okay, thanks
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<Josh_2>
Hi hi :D
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<beach>
yagkasha: WITH-OPEN-FILE is a macro that creates a lexical variable with the name that the user of the macro puts in the first argument. During the execution of the body of the macro, that lexical variable is bound to a stream.
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<yagkasha>
so 'out' is a variable created by a macro that can then be used within the function?
<beach>
That can then be used in the body of the macro call, yes.
<beach>
Not within the entire function.
<beach>
So (WITH-OPEN-FILE (NAME...) <body>) expands to something like (LET ((NAME (OPEN ...))) <body>)
<beach>
In fact, you can probably see that if you do a macroexpand-1 on the form.
<beach>
Well, not as simple as that in CCL, but still. You see the (LET ((OUT ...)) STUFF).
<yagkasha>
okay, thank you
<beach>
Pleasure.
<yagkasha>
I tried this: (macroexpand-1 #'practical-common-lisp::save-db) but it didn't work
<yagkasha>
is that the write syntax?
<yagkasha>
right*
<beach>
You need to give it a form, and it has to be a macro form if you want it to expand.
<beach>
So in this case, it has to be a compound form with WITH-OPEN-FILE as the operator.
<yagkasha>
but you cannot call macroexpand-1 on function names, only on their definition?
<yagkasha>
maybe I should just focus on reading practical common lisp. I think it will answer all of my questions.
<beach>
You can call macroexpand-1 on any form, but it is meaningful only if you give it a macro form.
<beach>
,(macroexpand-1 234)
<ixelp>
(macroexpand-1 234) => 234; NIL
<beach>
,(macroexpand-1 '(when x y z))
<ixelp>
(macroexpand-1 '(when x y z)) => (IF X (PROGN Y Z)); T
<beach>
234 is not a macro form but (when x y z) is.
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<aeth>
,(macro-function 234)
<ixelp>
(macro-function 234) ERROR: The value 234 is not of the expected type SYMBOL.
<aeth>
,(macro-function 'when)
<ixelp>
(macro-function 'when) => #<Compiled-function WHEN Macroexpander #x1424A57E>
<aeth>
,(macro-function '+)
<ixelp>
(macro-function '+) => NIL
<aeth>
so I suppose what you'd need to do to test (other than the lazy way of doing macroexpand-1 and seeing if it is equal or equalp to itself) is something like (and (consp object) (symbolp (car object)) (macro-function (car object)))
<beach>
I think you can use macroexpand-1 on a symbol macro.
<aeth>
ah, define-symbol-macro... so it does exist globally... symbol-macrolet is far, far, far more common
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<yottabyte>
I C-M-k to delete the current form, then I have all of this whitespace to delete back to the previous form (it was on a new line), what's a fast way to do do that without holding backspace?
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<AndreiDuma>
@yottabyte, I use M-^ (delete-indentation) to join the current line to the one above
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<yottabyte>
Thanks, I'll try that
<younder`>
Alt-Space - makes n spaces into one. I had to change the keybindings of the gnome window mnager so it didn't goggle it up. (treakui)
<AndreiDuma>
yottabyte: in other cases you might also find useful M-\ or M-SPC
<younder`>
tweakui
<AndreiDuma>
younder: M-SPC doesn't seem to delete newlines
<younder`>
no - just spaces
<morganw>
C-x C-o is delete-blank-lines
<BrokenCog>
Josh_2: if helps ... I did the POST in Python, which did work correctly. After I do it via sockets without dexador ... I'll have a more definitive finger to point.
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