00:00 <lanefu> Rneese whaa thats crazy

00:00 <lanefu> Enjoy your weekend

11:31 <lanefu> mornin

12:02 <nekomancer[m]> monin

13:13 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> Afternoon :)

13:15 <lanefu> ha

13:38 <djurny> and good evening :-P

13:40 <Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> Sorry im American i obviously think the world revolves around me

13:40 <nekomancer[m]> you are right.

13:48 <lanefu> lol

16:43 <sunshavi> lanefu: http://0x0.st/-pQ5.txt

16:50 <lanefu> sup?

16:58 <sunshavi> lanefu: what's the meaning of sup?

16:59 <lanefu> what's up

16:59 <Xogium> what's up

16:59 <Xogium> oh damn

16:59 <Xogium> ;)

16:59 <sunshavi> ok. thanks

16:59 <sunshavi> lanefu: that's your suggestion 'compressed btrfs'

16:59 <sunshavi> zstd

17:01 <sunshavi> Xogium: thanks for the explanation also

17:02 <lanefu> ohh yeah... i do like commpressed btrfs :)

17:02 <lanefu> https://armbian.lane-fu.com/linx/57lce58n.txt

17:03 <lanefu> sunshavi:h ow's it working out for you

17:04 <sunshavi> until now. pretty nice. I am thinking on moving the opi+2e emmc to btrfs compressed also. But I am also afraid of investing the time soon. Problably it is better not doing in on my daily-use machine

17:05 <sunshavi> thinking about buying an emmc with an sd adapter and doing all the changes on the emmc first.

17:05 <sunshavi> But recommend me this setup 3 months ago. This week Y was updating u-boot an did not writing to the partition But to the slide. So I was forced to reinstall everything

17:13 <Xogium> I personally stick to ext4, btrfs doesn't really offer any feature I'd be interested in aside from compression, and it's not a big enough concern for me to move

17:14 <Xogium> but yeah, opinion and preference, after all

17:16 <nekomancer[m]> sunshavi: it's easy to replace root to btrfs on other computer. just copy image, then remove all but /boot folder content from rootfs, move /boot content to root, create new root btrfs filesystem, restore root content from backup excluding /boot folder, mkdir empty boot folder, replace rootfs type from ext to btrfs in /boot/boot.env, replace rootfs mount description in /etc/fstab, then mount /boot to new root and do chroot there , and run

17:16 <nekomancer[m]> done!

17:16 <nekomancer[m]> mkinitrd.

17:17 <sunshavi> btrfs+compression helps with uSD deterioration also

17:17 <nekomancer[m]> ah, I forgot "shrink root size to 100-250 MB" before create new rootfs

17:17 <Xogium> how so ? If anything it feels like the copy on write feature would massacre the flash, at least to me…

17:18 <nekomancer[m]> btrfs helps under docker. it work faster and takes less space.

17:19 <nekomancer[m]> it will "to massacre". it depend only on changed data size.

17:20 <nekomancer[m]> ext4 ot btrfs — flash have to write changed blocks.

17:20 <sunshavi> nekomancer[m]: i need fisrt dig on iwd with fixed ip. that machine also works as a samba server

17:21 <nekomancer[m]> just accept it and be prepared to replace dead sdcard.

17:21 <nekomancer[m]> it's fs-agnostic recommendation.

17:22 <sunshavi> Xogium: noatime,nodirtime. and journal on volatile

17:22 <Xogium> well, it can't be worse than f2fs, at any rate

17:23 <Xogium> flash friendly… Yeah, if you have a crappy pre-2012 eMMC or ssd

17:24 <Xogium> these days there's a LOT of sd cards, eMMC and ssd where f2fs does more bad than good

17:24 <sunshavi> Xogium: i almost have no space on opi+2e emmc

17:25 <Xogium> really ? Hmm

17:25 <Xogium> I had gotten a 128 gb eMMC with my odroid c2 back in the day

17:26 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> I need to see if I can make eMMC modules 😛

17:26 <Xogium> I could have gone with a 64 to be honest, I hadn't even managed to fill half of it

17:26 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> and if that even makes sense 😄

17:28 <nekomancer[m]> emmc modules 64 and 128 are expensive :(

17:28 <Xogium> yep, they are

17:28 <sunshavi> i would be happy with 32

17:29 <Xogium> but well worth the money tbh. I still haven't killed mine in nearly 7 years of run time, with ext4 journaling and systemd-journald writing logs

17:30 <Xogium> the lifetime is still at below 10% of the max value according to mmc-utils

17:30 <Xogium> so like between 0 and 9% of used, and none completely worn out yet

17:35 <sunshavi> i have an emmc with arch-x86-64 which i use for booting on diferent machines (4 cross compling kernel 4 opi+2e on memory-fs)