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<cheakoirccloud>
This may help for experimental targets. Enable things like kgdb, ftrace and (I'm not sure what this is) dynamic debug.
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<nekomancer[m]>
Uncompressing Linux... done, booting the kernel."
<nekomancer[m]>
How to debug state "Starting kernel ...
<nekomancer[m]>
seems I build unbootable kernels if build on x64 for hirsute for helios4.
<nekomancer[m]>
* seems I build unbootable kernels if build on arm64 for hirsute for helios4.
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<IgorPec>
nekomancer[m]: arm64 build support is strictly experimental
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<nekomancer[m]>
I know. I am trying to solve that case. But for a while unsuccessful.
<Tenkawa>
what are you trying to build?
<IgorPec>
no idea. balbes reported some troubles, check build script issues
<IgorPec>
we are currently without arm build server, so we don't use it for those tasks
<Tenkawa>
IgorPec: interesting.. so far we haven't run into anything arm64 can't build
<Tenkawa>
every soc I have I've built images for on 2 different arm64 debian boxes
<nekomancer[m]>
<Tenkawa "what are you trying to build?"> if you asking me: I building image for helios4 on odroid-n2 with focal. image is good and bootable if I build for focal, but unbootable if build for hirsute. build for hirsute work wia docker.
<nekomancer[m]>
but all the same conditions but target board rock64 does bootable image.
<nekomancer[m]>
I am lost.
<Tenkawa>
hmm
<Tenkawa>
docker is more likely the culprit
<Tenkawa>
we have seen it cause problems in our (non-armbian) builder
<nekomancer[m]>
<IgorPec "https://github.com/armbian/build"> There balbes talks with me :) that talk finished for a while with balbes found a problen in his build system.
<Tenkawa>
and the latest revision of ubuntu has been very hit and miss
<Tenkawa>
right now we have found a kernel issue that we can repeat on our ubuntu builds but not our debian ones
<Tenkawa>
part of the problem we are seeing actually is revolving around u-boot
<nekomancer[m]>
just now my x64 builder does same image with same conditions. to proof it boots.
<Tenkawa>
nod
<nekomancer[m]>
<Tenkawa "part of the problem we are seein"> but I see on console it start to start kernel?
<Tenkawa>
yes.. then the hand off to root never occurs
<Tenkawa>
it acts as if it doesn't know what to do next
<nekomancer[m]>
maybe something wrong with kernel compression?
<nekomancer[m]>
vmlinuz, initrd — can they be deconstructed for comparison?
<nekomancer[m]>
initrd is just a memory image with code and data?
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<nekomancer[m]>
maybe I can try to boot image in qemu? is it possible?
<nekomancer[m]>
but what then... so, it will boot... or will not. then..?
<nekomancer[m]>
doh
<stipa>
hmmmm
<stipa>
i've never tried but maybe you could boot it on the sbc itself in quemu for arm64
<stipa>
if the cou is supporting virtulization
<stipa>
cpu*
<stipa>
but i guess the peripherals would be the problem and there would be bunch of errors on boot
<stipa>
it wouldn't see the peripherals
<nekomancer[m]>
on helios — I don't know. on odroid highly likely yes.
<stipa>
it would be a challenge
<stipa>
the quemu could maybe see just the arm core
<stipa>
maybe not even that
<stipa>
since all socs are different
<stipa>
what quemu does is emulates intel cpu and bunch of stuff runs on it
<stipa>
what qemu you would need would have to do is to eulate whole board in software
<stipa>
emulate*
<stipa>
on which you would run an image
<stipa>
personally i have no idea what virtualization silicon does but a lot of it is code i guess
<Tenkawa>
stipa: which silicon? intel, m1, ?
<Tenkawa>
many of them have hardware extensions on the cpu die itself to do the virtualization
<nekomancer[m]>
that was bad idea.
<stipa>
Tenkawa: idk which image nekomancer[m] has in mind?
<stipa>
probably an arm soc, i doubt it's intel or M1 emulation
<stipa>
what he needs
<Tenkawa>
stipa: running through qemu-arm is possible... just really slow
<Tenkawa>
(its possible for most socs anyway
<Tenkawa>
you have to do a fair bit of setup though
<Tenkawa>
(networking, disk image backing device, graphics backing, etc)
<stipa>
yeah, there's some job to do, i doubt anyone has done it
<stipa>
there's not much word about kvm and SBCs
<Tenkawa>
libvirt has a gui util that can build it all... (I assume its in the armbian repos too) virt-viewer
<Tenkawa>
stipa: its been done plenty
<Tenkawa>
vmware for example has a esx hypervisor now on rpi4
<stipa>
right, ok, if it's fast nekomancer[m] could try it...
<stipa>
like fast to setup
<Tenkawa>
nekomancer[m]: look up Vmware Flings
<Tenkawa>
theres ESXi for different Arm platforms there
<Tenkawa>
that might have something he can test with
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<cheakoirccloud>
So I've been having the problem with ebin and networkd. I rebuilt the kernel to enable some debugging options and it's gone.
<stipa>
gonsky
<stipa>
go back to old image
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<nekomancer[m]>
no. vmware flings not seems like something helpful in non-bootable image case.
<Drew11092>
hey someone call me please? 484-390-2103
<[TheBug]>
how about no.
<Drew11092>
what? why?
<IgorPec>
lol
<stipa>
why?
<[TheBug]>
Why do you think?
<[TheBug]>
If you had to guess, what would be your guess?
<Drew11092>
because you're a fucking faggot who needs to be killed?
<Drew11092>
u fucking jew
<Drew11092>
or maybe a nigger??
<[TheBug]>
thats what I thought, you needed to be banned, thats really what you were wanting.. :)
<stipa>
Drew11092: I'm your father
<Drew11092>
the taliban will drop you off a building faggot!!!
<Drew11092>
or are you a fucking dot head?! those dirty fucks eat shit out of the river!!!
<stipa>
man, seek some medical help...
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<[TheBug]>
And..... he's gone
<[TheBug]>
;)
<stipa>
he'll be back
<[TheBug]>
and then he will get klined again :)
<stipa>
maybe it's a bot
<IgorPec>
oh, and i want to make him friend on facebook :( lol
<[TheBug]>
:facepalm:
<stipa>
too bad i don't have facebook :(
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<IgorPec>
just snapchat and instagram ? :)
<nekomancer[m]>
just tiktok
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<ArmbianTwitter>
@danielhepper (Daniel Hepper): @MatthiasStrubel It’s running Armbian Buster. AFAIK there is no prebuilt image, but the installation is straight forward. I didn’t test Wifi or any other hardware though. https://tinyurl.com/ybsv3djj (6s ago)
<Tenkawa>
wow... and irc hasnt changed after 30 years
* Tenkawa
just got back and saw that "dialog"
* Tenkawa
is so glad he never touched facebook since day 1
<ArmbianTwitter>
@armbian (armbian): RT @danielhepper: In today’s episode of “Spending way to much time and money on a stupid idea”, I proudly present you my PoE-powered can of… https://tinyurl.com/yzctutfnhttps://tinyurl.com/yz9fp2sr (25s ago)
<Tenkawa>
eeek......
<Tenkawa>
lol
<Tenkawa>
*says the vegetarian* lol
<Tenkawa>
thats funny
<stipa>
just linkedin
<stipa>
and by the look of it it's full of self proclaimed influencers
<stipa>
old farts influencer wannabees
<stipa>
there's some old chicks too
<stipa>
they try to sell you fame on linkedin and what you have to do to achieve that if you pay them of course
<stipa>
i'll skip that offer
<stipa>
there are some AI experts too!!!
<ArmbianTwitter>
@MatthiasStrubel (Matthias Strubel): @danielhepper I’m using an external wifi dongle, because the upstream wifi drivers aren’t worth it. Thanks for the feedback. On one device I’ll give armbian a try https://tinyurl.com/yz6e3q2n (12s ago)
<stipa>
yeah, "Linkedin Coach" is how they call it
<stipa>
but who ever is active has to be an influencer because all the competition is, shit got loose overthere too...
<stipa>
i've wasted there almost a year actively, saw the pattern that repeats and don't waste time tere anymore
<stipa>
just a bunch of scam
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<stipa>
i'm more into productin side of things nowadays
<stipa>
sales ain't my thing
<stipa>
but i'm on the market sort of
<stipa>
i'm actually transitioning from win to linux as a hardware backbone of my thing
<stipa>
erm, software backbone*
<stipa>
i see linux as a firm platform for the future that comes
<stipa>
it's just a rabbit hole
<stipa>
yeah, software compatibility ain't the best but i guess i'll do my thing and that's it...
<ArmbianTwitter>
@tristaoh (Tristão): @danielhepper @armbian My compliments! It looks awesome 😃 https://tinyurl.com/yzmkuuv5 (2s ago)
<stipa>
making stuff compatibile betweene the oses is something i'll have to ditch behind
* nekomancer[m]
uses windows irfan view and notepad++ in linux via wine
<stipa>
nekomancer[m]: i do audio
<stipa>
so usb soundacrd, synths...
<stipa>
that won't run nicely in wine nor in the qemu
<nekomancer[m]>
sad
<stipa>
yeah, lot's of reorganization
<stipa>
editors for synths don't work at all
<stipa>
so i have dive through menus manually...
<stipa>
but it's doable
<stipa>
i have had many chances to go back to win but i somehow found a solution