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<djurny>
hi trying to figure out what i can do to help testing the new 21.08. have one nanopi r2s and possibly one helios4 available to do some upgrading and testing.
<djurny>
currently switching the nanopi to nightly builds
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<IgorPec>
werner: clicked forum upgrade ... hope it will not be many new troubles ;) put out some annoucement
<stipa>
if you want to do some bug patching join #armbian-devel
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<stipa>
there's also discord channel being tested
<stipa>
or group or whatever, dunno how discord works
<Werner>
IgorPec, we'll see. From the features I read about only one or two might be interesting
<Werner>
Either the blue new user/moderator badges have been shifted from Invision or the dark themes are broken in this matter ^^. Doesn't look like a big deal though
<IgorPec>
yeah, doesn't look that bad, but i guess some fine tunning and fixing is always needed
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<nekomancer[m]>
anyone board on RK3566 in armbian? sure .wip or .csc
<lanefu>
nekomancer[m]: nope
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<lanefu>
nobody has sent us one.. and also unsure of mainline status so we haven't been in a rush
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<lanefu>
Rneese hi!
<Armbian-Discord>
<rneese> hey
<Armbian-Discord>
<rneese> morning
<lanefu>
sweet
<Armbian-Discord>
<rneese> yeah now we have all channels linked
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> yeah most of em.. the oens that make sense..no need for #armbian-commit or #armbian-rss
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> that's for crusty people
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> that use irc
<Armbian-Discord>
<rneese> the commits is for all the github commits ?
<Werner>
And new Jira issues
<lanefu>
yeah github commit and jira issues
<Werner>
rss is for new forum posts and twitter mentions
<Armbian-Discord>
<rneese> we might want commits but rss not really
<lanefu>
yeah.. for commits probably makes sense to use a native integration
<lanefu>
but irc has gotta be specail somehow lol
<Armbian-Discord>
<rneese> lol
<Armbian-Discord>
<rneese> why
<IgorPec>
good morning usa ;)
<Armbian-Discord>
<rneese> just because its old and has been around the block more then most of us
<lanefu>
because of my core values
<lanefu>
lol
<lanefu>
mornin igor
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<Armbian-Discord>
<rneese> if linux was not linux what would its name be
<Armbian-Discord>
<rneese> or would we all be on Freebsd
<IgorPec>
linux is unix
<IgorPec>
came from there, so
<buZz>
we'd call it discord and make the server side closed source
<nekomancer[m]>
<lanefu "nobody has sent us one.. and als"> shame on firefly
<lanefu>
..and pine
<stipa>
chinese version of unix
<stipa>
is linux
<stipa>
chinux
<stipa>
chinx
<stipa>
chnix
<stipa>
just a lame copy that barely works
<stipa>
usually comined with china hardware as well
<stipa>
combined*
<stipa>
winning combo of pleasure
<stipa>
buy now only 20 $
<stipa>
free shipping
<stipa>
everything works, just plug and play
<Armbian-Discord>
<rneese> nothing works . Plug and play is a lie
<Armbian-Discord>
<rneese> jk
<stipa>
a lie ? :(
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<stipa>
Bus 001 Device 019: ID 0e8d:7612 MediaTek Inc. MT7612U 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wireless Adapter
<stipa>
testing weekend :)
<stipa>
&
<stipa>
Bus 001 Device 020: ID 0b95:1790 ASIX Electronics Corp. AX88179 Gigabit Ethernet
<stipa>
time to get rid off realtek crap i hope
<stipa>
asix adapter looks fine inside, mediatek needs some additional soldering
<stipa>
meidatek looks very clean, no factory flux residue
<stipa>
only downside is that it came with usb2 cable and not usb3
<stipa>
like a stand for wifi adapter with
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<[TheBug]>
if you intend to use it under constant load
<[TheBug]>
be ready to open the casing for it
<[TheBug]>
or place a heatsink those chipsets can sometimes overheat in my experience
<[TheBug]>
talking about the ethernet dongle
<[TheBug]>
but noticed your probably talking about wifi
<stipa>
maybe i could take a risk and try this one linux-modules-5.11.0-1009-aws - Linux kernel extra modules for version 5.11.0 on ARMv8 SMP
<[TheBug]>
did /lib/modules/5.10.21-sunxi64 exist
<[TheBug]>
with any contents
<[TheBug]>
otherwise its odd we don't supply modules packages for the kernels we have deployed in the image
<[TheBug]>
stipa: in a real life scenerios the folder you need would be created after you compiled kernel from source and did a modules install
<[TheBug]>
then /build would exist there and all your modules
<[TheBug]>
build will include things like locales and specific for the kernel which the module you are trying to compile looks to want to leverage
<[TheBug]>
which is why it is failing
<[TheBug]>
so for it to compile I am not sure which you need in this case, the modules pacakge or to compile your own kernel or switch to a kernel that has a modules package, etc
<[TheBug]>
or just kernel source
<[TheBug]>
would have to see what your working with
<[TheBug]>
anyways I gotta step away for a few bbiab
<nekomancer[m]>
> maybe i could take a risk and try this one linux-modules-5.11.0-1009-aws - Linux kernel extra modules for version 5.11.0 on ARMv8 SMP
<nekomancer[m]>
**aws?** dis is a virtual machinen on AWS?
<stipa>
dunno
<[TheBug]>
what board are you trying to get this working on
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> second option is that its simply not eneabled ... and you should probably use edge kernels ( 4.12.y) which is on manjaro probably ...
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> 5.* 🙂
<stipa>
Linux manjaro 5.10.41-1-MANJARO #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri May 28 19:10:32 UTC 2021 x86_64 GNU/Linux
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> ancient manjaro then
<stipa>
yeah
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> well, then its just not enabled / missing fw
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> manjaro doesn't add anything to the kernel
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> this is linux, what can i say 🙂
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> and chinese chip vendors.
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> i avoid those mediateks for similar resons
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> driver is looking for those vendor and producid
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> if that one is random / hijacked ... blacklisting one driver and similar hacks are needed
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> not a standard service. with manjaro you just had random luck
<stipa>
i have two, both work on manjaro
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> well, use manjaro then 😉
<stipa>
i didn't expect that
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> i know. but if problem needs a day to address - you didn't expect I will do that??
<stipa>
i know you woudnt
<stipa>
i didn't expect to have those problems
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> this is normal. its linux
<stipa>
it's a krenel baked driver
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> its not that simple like it looks like
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<stipa>
sure it isn't
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> we tried simple logical way to fix things. if that doesn't go, we are on advanced which require research. And in areas we have little know-how
<nekomancer[m]>
IgorPec: how you feeling on discord?
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> strange
<stipa>
IgorPec: i don't know how to approach that problem
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> the way we did it
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> since we failed, things are more complicated
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> more complicated - afternoon of snooping the code
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> i like you stipe, but my saturday i have no intention to spent for that 🙂 I rather personally deliver you new wifi chip
<stipa>
no worries
<stipa>
i'll think about it
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> in fact its friday. we had holiday so i am mixing up 🙂
<stipa>
yeah, double holiday for you
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> hint: try blacklisting that strange cdrom driver or whatever is loaded when you plug this wifi
<stipa>
will try
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> that's all ideas i have now
<stipa>
it's reasonable idea
<stipa>
it does detect it as Mediatek but as a "MediaTek Flash "
<stipa>
so it's close
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> this means vendor ID is correct
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> but they reused the same one for different hw or there is a bug in linux kernel code. Which is nothing unusual. In manjaro you simply had luck that it doesn't manifest. they certainly didn't fix somehitng like that
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> since they doesn't fix anyhting
<nekomancer[m]>
it's trickky usb gadget, like gsm modems. on insert they are just block storage. there are win or mac software installer. then some magic should be done, thjen it turns into adapter.
<nekomancer[m]>
poke a nail into head to person invented that.
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> also good way is searching linux source code for those IDs
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> to see where it lands
<stipa>
it uses usb-storage driver
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> blacklist it and try again
<stipa>
|__ Port 1: Dev 6, If 0, Class=Mass Storage, Driver=usb-storage, 480M
<nekomancer[m]>
no-no.
<nekomancer[m]>
driver should init it and turn into wifi mode
<stipa>
?
<stipa>
isn't that for 4G modems?
<[TheBug]>
stipa: FYI
<[TheBug]>
some of those new adapters
<[TheBug]>
I had one as well
<[TheBug]>
not sure model atm
<[TheBug]>
but when you put them in system for first time
<[TheBug]>
they will expose as a storage device with it's drivers on it
<[TheBug]>
then once you bring it up it will go out of mass storage mode
<stipa>
:/
<nekomancer[m]>
yes, like 4G modem. but not modem.
<stipa>
it doesn't happen on manjaro intel machine
<[TheBug]>
um honestly I am not sure how it knows / toggles
<stipa>
it gets detected straight as wifi
<[TheBug]>
you would have to search
<[TheBug]>
I can just confirm this is not abnormal
<[TheBug]>
yeah there is probably something you have to tell it
<[TheBug]>
"I think I found my answer on the wiki. I installed usb_modeswitch and everything appears to work fine."
<stipa>
i thought it's flash of the chip
<[TheBug]>
its a usb mode
<[TheBug]>
you have to tell it to switch mode
<[TheBug]>
A useful utility for switching these devices into modem mode is usb_modeswitch. It ships with udev rules /usr/lib/udev/rules.d/40-usb_modeswitch.rules that contain entries for many devices, which it will switch to modem mode upon insertion.
<[TheBug]>
so install that and even just reboot?
<[TheBug]>
since it seems it will have most of the default which is probably what Manjaro is doing
<nekomancer[m]>
try. jou lost nothing.
<stipa>
i'll try
<stipa>
[TheBug]: do i need to config anything after the install ?
<[TheBug]>
I mean if its in their rules you would reboot and their rule will already set mode
<[TheBug]>
but if it isn't
<[TheBug]>
then it may be that until the driver is correctly loaded it won't switch and that driver isn't right
<[TheBug]>
or you may need to add your device to it
<stipa>
i'll reboot, brb
<[TheBug]>
you will have to try
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<stipa>
motherfuckers, [TheBug] nekomancer[m] you were right
<stipa>
Bus 004 Device 003: ID 0e8d:7612 MediaTek Inc. Wireless
<[TheBug]>
;)
<[TheBug]>
Get down to some Trombone Shorty and everything in the world rights it's self..