04:37 <sewn> hi

04:37 <sewn> hi midfavila

04:38 <midfavila> oh, hey sewn

04:38 <midfavila> how's stuff?

04:39 <sewn> im old

04:39 <midfavila> pls

04:39 <midfavila> you're like

04:39 <midfavila> what

04:39 <midfavila> fifteen

04:39 <midfavila> sixteen

04:39 <midfavila> ?

04:41 <sewn> nvm I'm not old

04:42 <midfavila> old is when you're in your twenties smdh

04:42 <midfavila> everything else is prehistoric

04:44 <sewn> yippee

04:44 <sewn> how's your stuff going

04:49 <midfavila> idk did i tell you i got canned for trying to unionize

04:49 <midfavila> 'cause that happened

04:49 <midfavila> now i'm moving halfway across the country and looking at a court case

04:51 <sewn> even after getting in a accident, you still got fired?

04:52 <midfavila> yeah, for, quote, "using excessive force when opening a door"

04:52 <midfavila> - w-

04:52 <midfavila> so the union is going after them for that

04:53 <sewn> is there not CCTV footage

04:53 <midfavila> there is

04:53 <midfavila> but it's a private business

04:53 <midfavila> they can fire people, in theory, only for just cause

04:54 <midfavila> in practice unless you have a union or something similar they can shitcan you for whatever

04:54 <midfavila> this is the waffle house of convenience stores and they fired me for opening a door with, quote, "too much force"

04:54 <midfavila> we've had supervisors throw things at customers and not even get spoken to lmao

04:54 <midfavila> people show up high off their ass and nobody cares

04:55 <midfavila> and yet i use "too much force" to open a door and the entire company loses its shit? seems legit

04:57 <sewn> oh man

04:58 <sewn> well I hope you go get them grr capitalists grr

04:59 <midfavila> but yeah i'm moving out to saskatoon now

04:59 <midfavila> much more work and stuff out there

04:59 <midfavila> gonna be getting some certs

04:59 <midfavila> etc

04:59 <midfavila> friend sent me some cash from europe so i'm set for a while

05:00 <sewn> do you have a cat

05:01 <midfavila> only the one under /bin

05:01 <sewn> a cat that goes meow meow and

05:02 <midfavila> no cats like that unfortunately

05:03 <sewn> aw

05:05 <midfavila> maybe in the future

05:08 <sewn> It looks like you haven’t started firefox in a while. Do you want to clean it up for a fresh, like-new experience? And by the way, welcome back!

05:08 <sewn> why does it tell me this

05:09 <midfavila> it's like senko-san

05:09 <midfavila> except annoying

05:09 <midfavila> and i don't want it

05:10 <sewn> oh yeah im on alpine i can actually try webkit browsers

05:11 <midfavila> reminds me that i should try that webkit browser for emacs

05:12 <sewn> emacs is everything innit?

05:12 <midfavila> it's going to be on the laptop

05:13 <sewn> oh wow its not that bad

07:51 <riteo> flatpak is giving me a very bad look

07:51 <riteo> I'm wondering how bad would it be if I installed firefox from there

07:53 <riteo> oh the bug I stumbled on looks to be fixed, phew

07:53 <riteo> I was almost going to give in to the dark side

07:54 <riteo> out of curiosity, do you folks game on kiss? I suppose that "only" building XWayland and "only" using flatpak on steam should allow that

08:21 <sewn> riteo:

08:21 <sewn> god damn itg he left

08:26 <sewn> riteo: yes

08:26 <sewn> you can build xwayland from kiss-xorg xwayland/ repo

08:26 <sewn> although i dont maintain it anymore, may or may not be out of date

14:01 <thikkl> I've been working on a kisslinux guide, originally was making it for myself to speed up the install process (I had to start over a few times) but I thought maybe someone else could find it helpful

14:01 <thikkl> https://avs-origami.github.io/kisslinux.html

14:04 <thikkl> It's still a work in progress though

14:40 <sewn> thikkl: why though

14:40 <sewn> you can help out by pushing it to http://kisscommunity.org/kiss/install/

14:41 <sewn> although im very dissapointed with the 'kiss-kernel' concept

14:41 <sewn> i think its better for the user to get familiar with kiss repositories and make their own linux package; making packages is inevitable

14:47 <thikkl> well like I said I made it mostly for myself

14:50 <thikkl> basically everything that I did while trying to get my install working is what I put on there

14:50 <thikkl> and it is a work in progress

14:51 <thikkl> sure I could push to kiss community install, but I needed somewhere to put it for my own use at least for now so that's where it is

16:14 <sewn> thikkl: it may just be me, but installing kiss doesnt require a guide if you have your own repository set up

17:49 <thikkl> no it's more that my install kept getting messed up because I was trying all sorts of things to get a working kernel

17:49 <thikkl> so I had to start over several times

18:54 <thikkl> also, a note on the kiss-kernel thing: one of the reasons I find this nicer than just packaging my kernel is that it gives me more control over the sources -- for example, I could just run menuconfig without building, if I wanted to, since the sources are in my home directory, not some cache directory managed by kiss

18:55 <thikkl> that's just why I like my method, I get if it doesn't fit with the philosophy of the distro or something like that but it works for me

18:57 <thikkl> the kernel is the only thing I do this for, anything else that I want but isn't packaged (for example sudo) I just put in my personal repo