<riteo>
actually I recently setup flatpak on my machine and I somehow stumbled on every single edge case working with portals
<riteo>
(yes I gave up and setup dbus too)
<riteo>
I still really want to give my own spin at KISS but I would first have to properly learn C and make a "vanilla" pkg manager in it for practice
<riteo>
there are some improvements which have already a lot of common consent afaict and so I could begin with those I suppose
<riteo>
I'm not giving up and switching to alpine yet
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<icebarf>
Hello There! I'm on IRC finally.
<riteo>
icebarf: hiii!
<icebarf>
hi riteo
<riteo>
welcome to the cool kids club 8)
<icebarf>
Lmao thanks.
<icebarf>
I was still stuck on the matrix channel for months. Finally decided to use something proper.
<icebarf>
Proper for IRC that is.
<icebarf>
is testuser here?
<riteo>
IRC got its pains. It took me a while to find the will/resources to setup a bouncer
<icebarf>
I just user pico.sh's services
<icebarf>
used*
<icebarf>
I have a server but too lazy to setup.
<riteo>
re server: yeah it's a bit of a mess
<riteo>
I used senpai and had to self-sign a certificate as it's only on my local network
<icebarf>
I see.
<icebarf>
I love how you can use pretty much everything in a browser these days.
<icebarf>
In the olden days, it used to be emacs only who could do that ;)
<icebarf>
... to be emacs only, which could do that*
<riteo>
web browsers are a bit of a mess on their own
<riteo>
they're their own very convoluted runtime with a lot of complexity and weird stuff going around
<riteo>
I recently switched from the web client of Telegram (which I need for various reasons) to the flatpak official one and my power consumption went down a lot while chatting
<icebarf>
I dont use telegram on desktop so I have no idea about that. But Telegram is OSS so atleast you dont have to worry about tracking and other privacy intrsuve things with other platforms, i.e, discord.
<icebarf>
I use cinny for matrix, and now gamja hosted by pico for IRC. That's about it.
<riteo>
fair, fair
<icebarf>
btw, does simply mentioning someone's username in chat notify them? I'm assuming matrix got this behavior from IRC but I'm not sure
<icebarf>
icebarf
<icebarf>
icebarf
<icebarf>
@icebarf
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<icebarf>
ig self ping wouldn't notify even if i quickly switch away
<riteo>
mh a common syntax is appending the username and a colon or a comma after it
<icebarf>
ye
<riteo>
but from what I can tell, at least on senpai, it notifies me of everytime someboy writes my handle
<icebarf>
riteo: do you get notification or some highlight?
<riteo>
it highlights the message
<icebarf>
when you mentioned my name, gamja highlighted your name
<icebarf>
not message
<riteo>
re name highlight: same
<riteo>
but like, mention me in 5 seconds or so
<icebarf>
aight, hi riteo.
<riteo>
yup, got a "1" next to the channel name
<icebarf>
mhm
<icebarf>
could you do the same for me as well>
<riteo>
yup
<riteo>
tactical nuke incoming!
<riteo>
icebarf
<icebarf>
do another
<riteo>
aight
<riteo>
icebarf test 123
<icebarf>
thanks!!
<riteo>
nw :)
<icebarf>
so i get a proper notification that leads me to the proper channel
<riteo>
looks like this is the convention
<icebarf>
and if i dont click the channel, it just changes the color of the channel's name in the channel list
<icebarf>
> and if i dont click the channel
<riteo>
oh, interesting
<icebarf>
fuck, i meant to do the correction
<icebarf>
so bad
<riteo>
oh yeah on IRC you can't really correct
<riteo>
like, a common syntax we had also working once was simple sed commands
<riteo>
like, if I wre to do this:
<riteo>
s/wre/were/
<riteo>
a bot would echo a fixed message
<icebarf>
mhm yeah thats a bit nicer indeed
<riteo>
but because we're geeks and stuff like that
<riteo>
even just an asterisk or whatever will bring the point across, although I suppose that smarter clients would apply that automatically
<riteo>
I _think_ that's a thing, but I'm not sure
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<icebarf>
hi disapper3nce
<icebarf>
yeah i see what you mean @riteo
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<sewn>
hi icebarf
<sewn>
is this iceman
<icebarf>
yes
<icebarf>
it is I
<icebarf>
sewn: I think your messages are repeating
<icebarf>
how you been?
<sewn>
I been sewning
<sewn>
icebarf: show evidence
<icebarf>
I'll post a gpg key on this channel from this account, and post a gpg key from that account on matrix as well
<icebarf>
is that enough
<icebarf>
I'll do that in a bit. It is my daily grass touching time now.
<sewn>
mine ended a few mins ago, enjoy yours
<disapper3nce>
/set theme dogshit
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<sewn>
disapper3nce: what irc client u be using
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<icebarf>
sewn: Thanks. I had fun.
<icebarf>
sewn: whatchu using lmao
<sewn>
trying to get testuser on IRC
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<testuser[m]>
sewn was here
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<testuser[m]>
hi
<sewn>
hi testuser[m] welcome back
<sewn>
next we need ioraff
<testuser[m]>
soon
<sewn>
testuser[m] is ioraff confirmed
<testuser[m]>
icebarf:
<testuser[m]>
hi
<icebarf>
testuser[m] why still using that matrix suffic
<icebarf>
i also have iceman[m] but that so annoying
<sad_plan>
ah, yeah mcppcpc made xwm and kirc iirc
<icebarf>
sewn: i dont know kanji; i can read the hiragana there "shi mi no" and then at the end "ke"
<sewn>
rirc is also cool but it doesnt support bouncer
<icebarf>
I just gamja hosted by pico.sh
<sad_plan>
icebarf: isnt japanese really hard to learn? seeing as its a completely new alphabet and stuff
<icebarf>
testuser recommended it to me
<sewn>
hey i reccomended it to him too
<sewn>
thats awesome
<sewn>
sad_plan: now its your turn
<sad_plan>
to recommend gamja to testuser? lol
<sewn>
no pico.sh
<sewn>
and its bouncer
<sad_plan>
oh, yeah
<sad_plan>
if you can tell me if it works with catgirl
<icebarf>
sad_plan: I don't know if it is "really hard". I already know 3 languages and now I'm learning my 4th. It seems okay to me. I just got done with 2 of the kana today.
<sad_plan>
then ill take a look
<sewn>
testuser[m]: does it work with catgirl
<icebarf>
What is catgirl? It's probably not what I'm thinking of.
<sewn>
irc client
<sad_plan>
icebarf: I see.
<sewn>
author of it reccomends pounce(1) as a bouncer
<sad_plan>
catgirl is an irc client
<icebarf>
I'm gonna pounce on a catgirl someday.
<sewn>
afaik author also doesn't want to support soju explicitly
<sewn>
sus
<icebarf>
why
<icebarf>
what wrong with it
<sewn>
idk ask
<icebarf>
sewn: do you use sourcehut
<sewn>
i would if it had username changes
<sewn>
but im using github
<icebarf>
kek
<icebarf>
yeah same, and codeberg. Which i have not used for months
<icebarf>
I installed kiss a few days ago only to get rid of it today
<sewn>
yeah i put stuff on codeberg for no good reason
<sewn>
i need to use one at a time tbh
<sewn>
and codeberg aint it for me, goes down alot and the gitea experience aint all that great
<sewn>
no search in code
<icebarf>
will it wasn't install, it was more of an extracting backup-root.tar.gz and then setting up grub
<icebarf>
I'm thinking of rehosting cgit for me when I'm not being lazy
<sewn>
i was using stagit and it got boring quickly
<sewn>
sourcehut is really good tbh, has all the goodies just no username changes
<icebarf>
yeah
<icebarf>
anyway, I'm gonna get back to learning
<sewn>
bai bai
<icebarf>
sewn: prose.sh looks nice
<icebarf>
atleast their CSS
<icebarf>
wanna steal :#
<icebarf>
:3
<sewn>
lol yep
<icebarf>
i tested it out with some blog post I wrote a year or so ago
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<wololo>
testing
<sad_plan>
hm, irc2 is wierd
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<icebarf>
sad_plan: the client written by mcpcpc?
<sad_plan>
yep
<sad_plan>
reminded me abit of sic tbh
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<sewn>
icebarf: > catgirl doesn't implement cap-3.2, so many capabilities will be disabled. catgirl developers have publicly stated that supporting bouncers such as soju is a non-goal.
<icebarf>
mhm i see
<icebarf>
fucking dogshit internet i have
<icebarf>
kys poop ISP
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