02:07 <midfavila> weeeh

02:08 <midfavila> only one more person at work and we'll be ready to unionize

07:06 <sewn> hi

07:06 <sewn> stupid bouncr

12:43 <sad_plan> sewn: maybe you can find an Oasis instead :D

12:49 <sewn> sad_plan: have i not told you about my journey about oasis yet

12:50 <sad_plan> I dont recall. I know you installed it, or atleast you tried. but you complained about nvidia drivers. not sure wether you ever got flatpak installed? iirc, you installed nix though

12:50 <sewn> i hadn't tried it when i used to have nvidia, but i tried it when i got my amdgpu

12:50 <sad_plan> right

12:50 <sewn> ngl it was pretty nice. but the desktop experience was very lacking

12:50 <sewn> there was no multi-monitor support in swc

12:51 <sewn> or atleast not properly

12:51 <sewn> aditionally its missing many protocols in wayland that i'd wish to use anyway

12:51 <sewn> i was told to just use wlroots and everything in pkgsrc, but whats the point? i can just use kiss...

12:52 <sad_plan> yeah, im not too sold on velox/swc either. I like tinyx and glazier tbh :p although, im open to try new things initially.

12:52 <sad_plan> yeah, I would also rather juse use kiss instead of pkgsrc

12:52 <sad_plan> 'fixing' pkgsrc repo to fit my usecase is more work than just using kiss

12:53 <sewn> im still using alpine for the time being because ehhhhhhh

12:53 <sewn> i think alpine is cool

12:54 <sad_plan> alpine is cool. never tried it myself though

12:55 <sewn> if you ever get bored of kiss i can reccomend it

12:55 <sewn> for an X experience its pretty good

12:55 <sewn> i also like mkinitfs and the way alpine packages things; its exactly what id want in a package manager

12:55 <sewn> except for the fact that apk doesnt have a 'pkg'fs similar to kiss and uses tarballs for indexes or whatever

12:55 <sewn> can get very slow sometimes

12:57 <sad_plan> not everyone can be as perfect as kiss, can it? I cant help but feel like kiss has ruined my view of how things should be. I keep comparing every other solution to w/e im using on kiss. 'this shouldnt have to be so complicated. its way easier how I do it on kiss'

12:58 <sad_plan> not sure if ive just transended to a higher state, or if Ive just became mentally ill by using kiss instead of.. genpoo or w/e

13:16 <sewn> kiss hasnt ruined my view of how things should be

13:16 <sewn> ive always had the same view lol

13:19 <sad_plan> I see. I didnt really figure out that before I eventually started using kiss, and started messing around with it

13:58 <sewn> you started making out

13:58 <sewn> lmao

13:58 <sad_plan> lol

14:25 <sewn> https://invidious.lunar.icu/watch?v=jPwNIXOBlAU

14:47 <rfaa> \m/

15:06 <sewn> are you a cockroach

15:26 <rfaa> me? sorry mate, mostly human

15:43 <sewn> then what the heck is the m in \m/ supposed to be

15:45 <rfaa> well it's two fingers of course, four in total

16:07 <sewn> what

16:07 <sewn> whar

16:08 <rfaa> haha it's the universal metal sign, come on!

16:20 <sewn> i listen to black metal and i

16:20 <sewn> ohhhhhhhhh

16:21 <sewn> i see what it means now

16:21 <sewn> its that hand symbol

16:21 <rfaa> i've never been more proud

16:27 <sewn> what sort of metal do you listen to?

16:39 <rfaa> everything from folk to death to black, as long as the quality is good, not the biggest fan of black metal recorded in your parents garage with a mic from the nearest toy store unfortunately

16:40 <rfaa> which seems to be most common in black metal crowds hehe

16:40 <sewn> but thats so kvlt how dare you,,,,,,,,,,,

16:41 <rfaa> haha exactly

16:41 <sewn> yknow now that i think about it most of my black metal is exactly that

16:41 <sewn> the only one that isnt is by the artist that does pig noises

16:42 <rfaa> silencer?

16:43 <sewn> you got it

16:43 <sewn> used to listen to silencer alot when i first heard about it

16:43 <sewn> now its just boring

16:45 <rfaa> yeah the singer from that band is rumored to have been in a mental hospital in the city i live in, not surprised

16:49 <rfaa> but i don't get the whole bad quality thing, black metal can be very nice if it's good quality, immortal gets it

16:51 <sewn> whats an immortal

16:52 <sewn> forgot to mention i listen to only a subgenre of black metal

16:52 <sewn> the only high quality artist i know is Intig in this genre

16:56 <rfaa> haha is that so? can't listen to black metal and have never heard of immortal

16:57 <sewn> i say black metal to hide the fact i listen to dsbm

16:59 <rfaa> yeah i kind of figured :) i like shining

16:59 <rfaa> singer seems like a bit of a cunt though

17:05 <sewn> lemme check out shining

17:05 <sewn> i swear i wanted to check them out a while ago but forgo

17:05 <sewn> oh this

17:05 <sewn> id rather listen to Svart tbh

17:09 <rfaa> huh don't think i've heard of them, not bad

17:13 <rfaa> heard of thyrfing? one of my all time favorites

17:14 <sewn> nope lemme check them

17:14 <sewn> weird name though

17:15 <sewn> why do i sense this is symphonic

18:53 <rfaa> it's a bit folky/melodic yeah, maybe not your cup of tea if dsbm is your favorite

19:01 <sewn> exactlyyy

22:15 <ehawkvu> illiliti: once kiss.el is finished, would there be any objections to shipping it w/ the emacs package?

22:16 <ehawkvu> I'm also not opposed to just putting up on melpa and having people fend for themselves

23:13 <midfavila> i dunno i think if we're going to start writing distro-specific elisp packages they should be under their own package