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<Ellowee[m]> Your git repos would be good portfolio
<Ellowee[m]> s/repos//
<Ellowee[m]> also why not just qemu a winblows vm
<midfavila> unfortunately my git repos display a) a very limited set of skills and b) a very, very, *very* niche set of skills
<midfavila> i keep trying to explain this to my career counselor but he doesn't seem to understand that being able to troubleshoot obscure errors in 1970s era codebases is a skill that very few people will pay you for, and even then only if you have a ton of experience
<midfavila> as is I have five months to cram a bunch of shitware out the door and hope to god that my willingness and determination to learn obscure and poorly-documented libraries and then produce somewhat useful software with them is slightly impressive
<Ellowee[m]> midfavila: COBOL
<midfavila> Java for boomers
<Ellowee[m]> midfavila: Github cockpilot seX
<midfavila> disgusting
<Ellowee[m]> i ran out of ideas to mock proprietary products
<midfavila> i'm at a point where i just want to cry ;w;
<midfavila> i don't want to be a fucking webdev but it seems like that's the only option for self-taught programmers to achieve gainful employment reasonably now
<Ellowee[m]> You will feed the beast!
<midfavila> me every day
<Ellowee[m]> Exactly how ((they)) want you
<midfavila> not even joking any more this actually sucks please send help i want to go back to being able to just work as a serf
<midfavila> ***;w;***
<Ellowee[m]> All I can say is, carry on doing the webdevving until you can get out of the loop
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<midfavila> i'm hoping to get a response from the testing positions i sent resumes in to
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<midfavila> if i can get either of those positions i'll be pretty happy honestly
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<midfavila> lmao i just found out that the standard x11 bitmap editor breaks if you use it with numlock enabled
<midfavila> that's rich
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<sewn> hi
<midfavila> Hallo.
<midfavila> man i really ought to extend the standard X11 bitmap editor to support XPMs
<midfavila> and have like, a status readout
<midfavila> having to manually count pixels instead of having a ruler or something is so 1988
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<midfavila> hmm
<midfavila> might actually take the time to draft some bitmaps and a small utility library to make working with Xaw easier and more consistent
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<midfavila> no point in reimplementing menu or toolbar generation for every program, and doing it all by hand is tedious and error-prone
<midfavila> same with a lot of common callbacks... since i'm targeting CUA, every program's going to have a fairly similar basic look and feel
<midfavila> just need to get my hands on a copy of the spec itself
<midfavila> not the spec proper but seems promising
<midfavila> i've heard that CUAv1 was like 330 pages long, most of that being compliance checklists
<midfavila> which is the most IBM thing i've heard in a long while
<sewn> pancakes
<midfavila> lawl x3 so random
<sewn> Shutcho X looking ass up
<sewn> shrimps
<sewn> ok I'm sorry that was mean
<midfavila> question for you guys
<midfavila> on a scale of 1 to 10 how cursed is it to illustrate a widget hierarchy using indentation in C source
<sewn> 3
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<midfavila> welp, prototype for a simple Xaw editor is just about done
<midfavila> just need to finish touching up the UI and implementing a few callbacks and we'll be good
<midfavila> microsoft won't know what hit 'em
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<midfavila> guys people are following me on newgrounds ;w;
<midfavila> i haven't even uploaded anything
<midfavila> must be what it feels like to have one github follower
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<sad_plan> hi
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<midfavila> current progress on my little toy editor
<midfavila> menus are almost functional, including an actually sane file selection widget courtesy of edward falk
<midfavila> still need to implement a callback and associated data structure before the status line will be useful
<midfavila> not going to show anything crazy - path and name of the file, current column and row, whether or not the file has been modified recently, etc
<sad_plan> cool. wait, why is your PATH only /bin? does slack install to /bin?
<midfavila> this isn't slackware, this is kiss
<sad_plan> ah. so you prefix everything to /?
<midfavila> no
<sad_plan> or empty for that matter which is more or less the same
<sad_plan> then why is path only /bin?
<midfavila> /usr/bin is linked to /bin
<sad_plan> I know
<midfavila> then there's your answer
* midfavila shrugs
<sad_plan> I just know kiss has alot more. but well. its not needed if theres nothing in /sbin i.e.
<sad_plan> so youre back on kiss again midfavila ?
<midfavila> for better or worse
<sad_plan> not so sure about your choice yet? :p
<drez> > on a scale of 1 to 10 how cursed is it to illustrate a widget hierarchy using indentation in C source | 0.00
<sad_plan> why?
<drez> hmmm
<sad_plan> why isnt it? appart from being massive compared to just a window manager
<Ellowee[m]> drez: 🤮
<drez> Because it got gtk3-ized
<sad_plan> is that so bad though? gtk+3 alone isnt that big. on my install its 12mb
<drez> it is terrible
<drez> makes everything run slow and behave like an android tablet
<drez> all the themes feel cheap and disproportionate
<sad_plan> android tablets are bad though. that I can attest to. I have one, which I use for mostly 1 thing, and I hate it every time..
<drez> definitely no bueno
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<sad_plan> yep. honestly dont know why manufactures dont create an actuall decent tablet.
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