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<Torr> Ahoy
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<sad_plan> hi Torr
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<Torr> sad_plan: How's it going?
<sad_plan> im good. how about you?
<Torr> Taking a look at this:
<Torr> It's very lightweight.
<Torr> And built on Lua \o/
<sad_plan> interesting project indeed
<sad_plan> can you create .doc files from it though?
<sad_plan> ive been curious if theres a project which can replace stuff like word, of libreoffice packages initially
<sad_plan> say if youre in school, and school requires you to use word, but you know, word is bloat and proprietary garbage
<Torr> As far as I know, it doesn't handle conversion.
<sad_plan> hm. what does it create though? pdfs? like Tex does
<sad_plan> using Tex in this case could work though.
<Torr> Yeah, like Tex.
<Torr> sad_plan: For conversions, u could try pandoc. Not sure if it can handle Word files though.
<sad_plan> noted
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<niceguy5000[m]> Torr: tor are you a real tor user? like 100% connect to the tor network?
<Torr> Lol
<Torr> Why do u ask?
<midfavila> niceguy5000[m], are you a real human bean?
<Torr> Yes
<Torr> The best human bean.
<Torr> Best and only xD
<midfavila> wh-
<midfavila> ;w;
<Torr> The only bean that can type like this.
<niceguy5000[m]> midfavila: no I'm a nice guy version 5000!
<Torr> midfavila: How's your toe buddy?
<midfavila> killing me slightly less
<midfavila> will be killing me much less over time because i'm back to being a neet
<midfavila> which is mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmfine actually
<niceguy5000[m]> no! what happen to your toe?
<midfavila> chronic ingrown nails /shrug
<niceguy5000[m]> well at least you don't have nail fungus. \
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<niceguy5000[m]> I have 3 nails that has fungus. I been using cream and it don't work.
<midfavila> small victory for me i guess
<midfavila> hopefully you can get that figured out
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<Torr> midfavila: Out of work?
<midfavila> yeah my boss terminated me without warning this morning
<midfavila> i was considering quitting anyway
<midfavila> fast food isn't my thing
* midfavila shrugs
<Torr> I'm certain you can turn this around.
<niceguy5000[m]> fast food is a nightmare to work for.
<sad_plan> niceguy5000[m]: go to your doctor and ask for some pills. I had several too, and they went away with some pills.
<midfavila> Torr: idk man i'll just fucking
<midfavila> go live under the bridge
<midfavila> will rant about posix for food
<midfavila> i don't give a shit any more :D
<Torr> > will rant about posix for food
<Torr> Lol
<midfavila> it feels like most of what you're expected to do in today's world is just make-work of no real value anyway
<midfavila> i might as well at least be honest about it
<Torr> Not a surprise for our debit based economy. If they can print money out of nothing, why put value into work?
<Torr> Or so they want you to think.
<midfavila> it's not even about that
<midfavila> the argument about muh fiat versus muh gold is stupid
<midfavila> it's about whether *real* value is produced by something or not
<midfavila> whether the world is actually made a better place
<midfavila> if anything, most jobs produce *negative* value
<midfavila> see: fast food
<midfavila> undereducated people underpaid and stuck in underemployment serving overpriced food at an overly-fast pace to overemployed and overpaid people, who then get sick and die because they live off of shitty food
<niceguy5000[m]> Almost 85m Americans eat fast food every day.....
<midfavila> there's not even an incentive to actually try at most wage-based jobs either
<midfavila> if profit sharing were more common, or you received bonuses based on performance, then that wouldn't be as much of a problem
<midfavila> but i'm not going to dump all my energy into a soulless corporation just to earn pennies
<midfavila> fuck that noise
<Torr> It's one in the same, as money was supposed to be a representation of value. But that's no longer the case, as planned obsolescence is the norm of our day.
<niceguy5000[m]> midfavila: have you tried the trade skill business?
<midfavila> niceguy5000[m]: i have no passion or interest in the trades, and can't afford schooling, anyway
<midfavila> or, well, i have no passion or interest in the trades that are still relevant
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<midfavila> nobody cares about cobblers or seamsters any more
<midfavila> and carpenters, barely, it seems like
<niceguy5000[m]> What about a plumper?
<midfavila> yeah no
<Torr> midfavila: Are u skilled in carpenty?
<midfavila> Torr, I took a class on it in high school and spent a bunch of time in the woodshop outside of class so, i dunno, more than your average person?
<midfavila> i can make basic stuff but nothing worth selling
<niceguy5000[m]> What about custom made cabinets?
<midfavila> depends on the complexity of the piece i guess
<niceguy5000[m]> Mostly everything is made in china anyways. people like cheap stuff.
<Torr> midfavila: Can u make a box? Small box, like the ones girls like to put their hair ornaments.
<midfavila> if you just want a wardrobe or something then yeah i could do that
<midfavila> but i've never liked "fancy" things
<midfavila> so i've never developed skills requisite for that sorta stuff
<Torr> U gotta start somewhere.
<midfavila> i still think getting a junior development position is my best bet
<Torr> Also, there's a market for everything.
<midfavila> i won't *enjoy* it, but i wouldn't hate it either, and both pay and benefits are good
<midfavila> and yes, there is
<midfavila> the question is if there's enough of one
<niceguy5000[m]> tor what do you do for a living?
<midfavila> and it seems like the idea of buying stuff that "just works" so to speak has gone out the door, at least in my area
<midfavila> people are only really interested in either a) absurdly cheap or b) incredibly decadent
<midfavila> you can't have "just" a decent pair of shoes, they have to be a fancy brand. you can't have "just" a decent shirt or pair of pants, or a watch, or a bike or anything. it all has to have a bunch of value-added shit
<midfavila> if it was an option i'd homestead
<niceguy5000[m]> You can dig for gold nuggets. I heard it's good money. /s.
<midfavila> but god fucking forbid you cut down a single tree on your property without filling out ten thousand permits
<niceguy5000[m]> wtf that have that in canada?
<niceguy5000[m]> s/that/thay/
<midfavila> they*
<niceguy5000[m]> s/that/they/
<midfavila> and yes, you need logging permits to cut down trees
<midfavila> i don't believe that rural properties are exempt from that
<midfavila> but i'd be interested in being corrected
<niceguy5000[m]> you can make a descent living cutting trees.
<niceguy5000[m]> s/descent/decent/
<midfavila> maybe some day i'll be able to open a little gadget store and sell homebrew electronic kits and teach people and stuff
<midfavila> that would be really comfy
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<Torr> midfavila: Can u make one of those: ?
<Torr> > 2,179 sales
<rohan> hey guys
<sad_plan> hi rohan
<rohan> someone have a buggy issue with foot?
<rohan> everytime i get a foot terminal
<rohan> my other terminal just add a line
<rohan> is like when i spawn a new term the other term do a enter
<rohan> when i kill the term it does the same
<testuser[m]123> rohan: which shell
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<Torr> 'til later
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<testuser[m]123> Hi
<sewn> Hi
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<Ellowee[m]> I get 2 nl each spawn of foot
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<testuser[m]123> Which shell
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<Ellowee[m]> The busybox sh
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<midfavila> finally got around to setting up slackware on a spare disk
<midfavila> that they still use LILO is kind of annoying
<midfavila> i never have any luck getting it to boot the kernel properly
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<midfavila> :o
<midfavila> it's a shokara
<shokara> hiya
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<midfavila> visiting forums i used to post on is such a weird feeling
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