<sad_plan>
can you create .doc files from it though?
<sad_plan>
ive been curious if theres a project which can replace stuff like word, of libreoffice packages initially
<sad_plan>
say if youre in school, and school requires you to use word, but you know, word is bloat and proprietary garbage
<Torr>
As far as I know, it doesn't handle conversion.
<sad_plan>
hm. what does it create though? pdfs? like Tex does
<sad_plan>
using Tex in this case could work though.
<Torr>
Yeah, like Tex.
<Torr>
sad_plan: For conversions, u could try pandoc. Not sure if it can handle Word files though.
<sad_plan>
noted
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<niceguy5000[m]>
Torr: tor are you a real tor user? like 100% connect to the tor network?
<Torr>
Lol
<Torr>
Why do u ask?
<midfavila>
niceguy5000[m], are you a real human bean?
<Torr>
Yes
<Torr>
The best human bean.
<Torr>
Best and only xD
<midfavila>
wh-
<midfavila>
;w;
<Torr>
The only bean that can type like this.
<niceguy5000[m]>
midfavila: no I'm a nice guy version 5000!
<Torr>
midfavila: How's your toe buddy?
<midfavila>
killing me slightly less
<midfavila>
will be killing me much less over time because i'm back to being a neet
<midfavila>
which is mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmfine actually
<niceguy5000[m]>
no! what happen to your toe?
<midfavila>
chronic ingrown nails /shrug
<niceguy5000[m]>
well at least you don't have nail fungus. \
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<niceguy5000[m]>
I have 3 nails that has fungus. I been using cream and it don't work.
<midfavila>
small victory for me i guess
<midfavila>
hopefully you can get that figured out
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<Torr>
midfavila: Out of work?
<midfavila>
yeah my boss terminated me without warning this morning
<midfavila>
i was considering quitting anyway
<midfavila>
fast food isn't my thing
* midfavila
shrugs
<Torr>
I'm certain you can turn this around.
<niceguy5000[m]>
fast food is a nightmare to work for.
<sad_plan>
niceguy5000[m]: go to your doctor and ask for some pills. I had several too, and they went away with some pills.
<midfavila>
Torr: idk man i'll just fucking
<midfavila>
go live under the bridge
<midfavila>
will rant about posix for food
<midfavila>
i don't give a shit any more :D
<Torr>
> will rant about posix for food
<Torr>
Lol
<midfavila>
it feels like most of what you're expected to do in today's world is just make-work of no real value anyway
<midfavila>
i might as well at least be honest about it
<Torr>
Not a surprise for our debit based economy. If they can print money out of nothing, why put value into work?
<Torr>
Or so they want you to think.
<midfavila>
it's not even about that
<midfavila>
the argument about muh fiat versus muh gold is stupid
<midfavila>
it's about whether *real* value is produced by something or not
<midfavila>
whether the world is actually made a better place
<midfavila>
if anything, most jobs produce *negative* value
<midfavila>
see: fast food
<midfavila>
undereducated people underpaid and stuck in underemployment serving overpriced food at an overly-fast pace to overemployed and overpaid people, who then get sick and die because they live off of shitty food
<niceguy5000[m]>
Almost 85m Americans eat fast food every day.....
<midfavila>
there's not even an incentive to actually try at most wage-based jobs either
<midfavila>
if profit sharing were more common, or you received bonuses based on performance, then that wouldn't be as much of a problem
<midfavila>
but i'm not going to dump all my energy into a soulless corporation just to earn pennies
<midfavila>
fuck that noise
<Torr>
It's one in the same, as money was supposed to be a representation of value. But that's no longer the case, as planned obsolescence is the norm of our day.
<niceguy5000[m]>
midfavila: have you tried the trade skill business?
<midfavila>
niceguy5000[m]: i have no passion or interest in the trades, and can't afford schooling, anyway
<midfavila>
or, well, i have no passion or interest in the trades that are still relevant
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<midfavila>
nobody cares about cobblers or seamsters any more
<midfavila>
and carpenters, barely, it seems like
<niceguy5000[m]>
What about a plumper?
<midfavila>
yeah no
<Torr>
midfavila: Are u skilled in carpenty?
<midfavila>
Torr, I took a class on it in high school and spent a bunch of time in the woodshop outside of class so, i dunno, more than your average person?
<midfavila>
i can make basic stuff but nothing worth selling
<niceguy5000[m]>
What about custom made cabinets?
<midfavila>
depends on the complexity of the piece i guess
<niceguy5000[m]>
Mostly everything is made in china anyways. people like cheap stuff.
<Torr>
midfavila: Can u make a box? Small box, like the ones girls like to put their hair ornaments.
<midfavila>
if you just want a wardrobe or something then yeah i could do that
<midfavila>
but i've never liked "fancy" things
<midfavila>
so i've never developed skills requisite for that sorta stuff
<Torr>
U gotta start somewhere.
<midfavila>
i still think getting a junior development position is my best bet
<Torr>
Also, there's a market for everything.
<midfavila>
i won't *enjoy* it, but i wouldn't hate it either, and both pay and benefits are good
<midfavila>
and yes, there is
<midfavila>
the question is if there's enough of one
<niceguy5000[m]>
tor what do you do for a living?
<midfavila>
and it seems like the idea of buying stuff that "just works" so to speak has gone out the door, at least in my area
<midfavila>
people are only really interested in either a) absurdly cheap or b) incredibly decadent
<midfavila>
you can't have "just" a decent pair of shoes, they have to be a fancy brand. you can't have "just" a decent shirt or pair of pants, or a watch, or a bike or anything. it all has to have a bunch of value-added shit
<midfavila>
if it was an option i'd homestead
<niceguy5000[m]>
You can dig for gold nuggets. I heard it's good money. /s.
<midfavila>
but god fucking forbid you cut down a single tree on your property without filling out ten thousand permits
<niceguy5000[m]>
wtf that have that in canada?
<niceguy5000[m]>
s/that/thay/
<midfavila>
they*
<niceguy5000[m]>
s/that/they/
<midfavila>
and yes, you need logging permits to cut down trees
<midfavila>
i don't believe that rural properties are exempt from that
<midfavila>
but i'd be interested in being corrected
<niceguy5000[m]>
you can make a descent living cutting trees.
<niceguy5000[m]>
s/descent/decent/
<midfavila>
maybe some day i'll be able to open a little gadget store and sell homebrew electronic kits and teach people and stuff