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<testuser[m]123>
Hi
<shokara>
hi
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<rohan>
hi
<rohan>
someone solved the newline shell problem?
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<midfavila>
woot, finally got CDE up and running on slackware
<midfavila>
...well, I had it up before, but I was watching a video and didn't want to lose my place. = w=
<sad_plan>
mid why didnt you just use vanilla kiss with xorg instead of slack? not stable enough that even? I mean, instead of slack
<midfavila>
in general? i do
<midfavila>
i like working with kiss
<midfavila>
but i need to take a break from it
<midfavila>
if you mean regarding CDE in particular... it doesn't compile under KISS
<midfavila>
it doesn't like musl
<shokara>
a break from kiss?
<midfavila>
yup
<shokara>
like a break from packaging?
<sad_plan>
I meant in general. but if kiss itself is what you needed a break from, using vanilla kiss with xor wont really solve that :p. itll only solve your repos possibly being broken. if they are :p
<midfavila>
shokara, just a break from using it
<shokara>
ah
<shokara>
I'm regretting my break from it already
<midfavila>
i haven't been doing well mentally and sometimes i just want to come home and watch a show without debugging a stack trace
<midfavila>
hence, slackware
<sad_plan>
I get that. my build sometimes breaks too. and when I use hours upon hours trying to fix it, I also get rather frustrated with kiss
<shokara>
had to find out why my audio wasn't working and why gui programs freeze on launch only to find out that it was because of libpipewire ._.
<sad_plan>
shokara: just use alsa instead. it just works TM
<shokara>
of course
<shokara>
but arch package maintainers thought making libpipewire a mandatory dependency of mpv and fluidsynth was a good idea
<sad_plan>
arent you using kiss?
<shokara>
I didn't even know it and libpulse were installed if it weren't for this
<sad_plan>
if youre on arch, shouldnt that solve itself when installing the package?
<shokara>
on my desktop yes, but I didn't want to deal with making more packages on my laptop so my vidya will just work, but then this happened...
<shokara>
nope
<shokara>
pipewire still refused to even launch for some weird cryptic dbus reason
<shokara>
of course removing it and just using alsa like I intended (but arch maintainers didn't) made everything work
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<sad_plan>
I see
<rohan>
i get this with kiss too
<rohan>
sometimes is frustrating
<sad_plan>
it is. and even so when things break for no appearant reason.
<rohan>
yeah
<sad_plan>
cmus broke for me yeasterday, and ended up segfautling, and none of the keys worked. ended up deleting all of its files, and suddenly it worked. I have no clue why it broke though
<rohan>
sometimes i just need a bloat install for my everyday
<shokara>
for me it's frustrating when these newfangled things from red hat or whatever corpo is forced on me to deal with
<rohan>
webtorrent allways segfault in kiss
<sad_plan>
sure. at times, we need the right tools
<sad_plan>
why not use transmission or rtorrent?
<rohan>
i use
<rohan>
but rtorrent don't stream
<sad_plan>
or.. I forgot what its called
<rohan>
i solved this with peerflix
<sad_plan>
i know, it just downloads. and thats fine by me anyway
<sad_plan>
cool
<rohan>
now my new thing is port avr programs for my arduino workflow
<sad_plan>
what do you use arduino for anyway?
<rohan>
my college
<sad_plan>
just for learning? or are you using it for anything specific?
<rohan>
i'am engineer of control and automation
<rohan>
need some mcu in class
<sad_plan>
I see
<rohan>
so sometimes i need arduino or esp
<rohan>
but i will get that and port in community
<rohan>
now i just wanna a eye candy wayland compositor
<sad_plan>
hyprland seems to be rather popular though
<sad_plan>
look nice too, from what ive seen
<rohan>
yeah but last time in kiss i can't get it build in pure wayland
<rohan>
i looked at swayfx
<rohan>
seems pretty good project
<sad_plan>
is that some fork of sway?
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<rohan>
yeah
<rohan>
a fork of sway with eye candy
<sad_plan>
yeah, I just found the repo
<rohan>
still new
<midfavila>
>not being a CDE chad
<sad_plan>
rounded corneers though. I like that
<rohan>
yeah thats good
<rohan>
and just use sway depends
<sad_plan>
cool
<midfavila>
hmm
<midfavila>
looks like xmhtml is still maintained
<midfavila>
makes me wanna try writing a crappy browser using it
<sad_plan>
would be a cool project wouldnt it?
<shokara>
"HTML Widget for Motif (for HTML 3.2)" :O
<sad_plan>
oh, mid, rc dont have read command built in, is there a replacement for it? more or less anyway. what tool would you use instead to read user input?
<sad_plan>
awk?
<midfavila>
ngl i don't write interactive scripts
<midfavila>
or crazy complicated ones
<sad_plan>
I have 2 scripts, which initially requires user input twice
<sad_plan>
I see
<midfavila>
most of what i do is automation
<sad_plan>
theyre not complicated at all, they just require input twice
<shokara>
all my user input in shell scripts come from arguments
<sad_plan>
but sure, maybe I need to rethink the scripts, and figure out a way to have it read it in another way
<sad_plan>
yeah, I was thinking in the line of that aswell
<sad_plan>
I have a bookmarking script, which lets you enter the url first, then prompt you for the descripbtion. I could probably just have the descripton be $2 or something
<shokara>
that seems easier to script into another program too
<sad_plan>
perhaps
<sad_plan>
the second script it just a more automated way to download videos from youtube.. first supply link, or be prompted for it, then select quality. which is the gist of it really
<sewn>
Hi
<sad_plan>
hi sewn
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<midfavila>
not gonna lie kind of upset that CDE's personal scheduling program doesn't work properly
<midfavila>
i mean, just gives me more reason to implement my own calendar and scheduler, but *still*
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<niceguy5000[m]>
wael: what happen to pfp.
<sewn>
insane.
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<rfaa>
hey, does anyone have any tips on a simple screenrecorder that works in wayland?
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<glenda>
hi
<shokara>
hello from outer space
<midfavila>
hullo
<midfavila>
steam
<midfavila>
uck
<midfavila>
god- DAMNIT
<shokara>
?
<niceguy5000[m]>
insane what?
<sewn>
PH MY FOD IS EGKWNDA
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<midfavila>
playing rimworld, my god, trying to deal with other factions as a neolithic society is painful
<sad_plan>
mid, have you encounted the tty getting stuck if you input wrong password? maybe stuck isnt the right word here, but I dont get a new prompt for entering the login credentials again.
<sad_plan>
ive probably removed something earlier without realising it
<midfavila>
check what package provides your /bin/login
<sad_plan>
ubase
<midfavila>
but no, i haven't encountered that
<midfavila>
weird
<sad_plan>
hm
<midfavila>
i use ubase's login and it doesn't gimme issues
<midfavila>
obvious course of action is to try another and see what's up
<sad_plan>
yeah, Ill do some digging.
<midfavila>
if you have strace and/or gdb you can step through the execution and see where it hangs
<midfavila>
man, going from 12gb to 32gb of memory makes all the difference for rimworld, christ
<midfavila>
my mod list is pretty tame in comparison to some people's, but it bullies my PC pretty hard regardless since most of the mods are either upscales or alterations to the game's algorithms
<midfavila>
i've never really liked content mods because most of the time they seem to be really bad, both for rimworld and otherwise
<midfavila>
but hey, now I can have a heckin' MANDALORIAN!!!! :OOOOOO
<sad_plan>
remind me Ive should probably also try rimworld some time
<sad_plan>
ever tried kenshi before? seems like it would be up your allay if you like rimworld. sortof anyway
<midfavila>
i've looked at it
<midfavila>
it seems pretty cool
<midfavila>
rimworld mostly satisfied my need for colony simulators though
<midfavila>
have this mod for rimworld that introduces currents to rivers and other bodies of water, and my fucking colonists keep trying to ford the map's river to get to their jobs and stuff
<sad_plan>
I really like it. probably played over 1k hours at this point :p tons of mods too for if youre into that aswell
<sad_plan>
sure
<midfavila>
because of the underlying pathfinding algorithm and aaa
<sad_plan>
aah, nice
<midfavila>
honestly kenshi seems a little too micromanagey for me
<midfavila>
even rimworld can get on my nerves with that sort of thing
<sad_plan>
kenshi can be, but it doesnt have to. you can automate alot of stuff even with setting queues for characters when building stuff
<sad_plan>
you can easily have a character create all the neccessary components for something, while also fetching everything needed for it in the process
<midfavila>
problem is that i don't like having to set those queues up in the first place lmao
<midfavila>
also, unrelated
<midfavila>
do any of you guys that use a desktop *actually* keep your UI fonts set at 8/9 point?
<midfavila>
it seems like that's the default for GTK and stuff
<midfavila>
and sitting like 3-4 feet away from my monitors it's *impossible* to focus on such tiny print for extended periods of time without massive eyestrain
<sad_plan>
well then I cant help you :p you also dont have to do any basebuilding at all. you can obviously skip that part alltogether
<sad_plan>
I have tamzen set to 14, and even that is kinda small
<midfavila>
okay good
<midfavila>
'cause like, i *am* an eyelet, but there's *no way* even people with normal vision can do that
<sad_plan>
hm. I get complaints all the time when people at work looks at my screen, and they can see anything. I can see it fine when I sit infront of it, but not a chance if I move further a way
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<sad_plan>
hm, ok so Ive discoverd login borks on if I type wrong username aswell.
<sad_plan>
could it possibly be that my launching of ttys is.. broken too?
<sad_plan>
so that when login should return you to the new prompt, it cant do that because the getty got killed
* midfavila
shrugs
<sad_plan>
hm
<midfavila>
*that* would depend on your init system, too
<midfavila>
since that's what handles spawning ttys
<sad_plan>
in my case, its handled by the service manager. Ive moved it some time ago. but I was thinking about trying to move it back temporarly to check
<sad_plan>
ill put it back, and doublecheck just in case
<sad_plan>
if it works, I know that the way im spawning the gettys is broken for sure
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<sad_plan>
yep, it sure was the way it spawned gettys
<sad_plan>
it seems the when login exits non-zero, the getty is killed, and cant return to give you a new prompt
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<sad_plan>
I got it. I had to create a while loop in the service script, and then put that into background. now it works as I indended it to be