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<midfavila> thad dark metal versus the brad synthpop
<sewn> its not dark metal smh
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<Ellowee[m]> I can't fucking retrieve some go dependency because fucking cryptoscope won't be fetched
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<drez> whats a cryptoscope?
<testuser[m]123> Hi
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<aelspire> Hi
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<Ellowee[m]> <drez> "whats a cryptoscope?" <- Some go project that has that as dep but I keep getting refused connection
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<dilyn> aw testuser I was hoping I could trick you into doing the elegant solution and just making go/build more elaborate:P
<dilyn> a separate bootstrap package Feels Bad :tm:
<midfavila> oh shit it's dilyn
<midfavila> long time no see man
<dilyn> I've been in hiding
<midfavila> jealous
<dilyn> :v
<dilyn> currently living the dream of debugging why this initrd won't boot properly:'(
<shokara> that's why I don't bother with initrd
<shokara> initrd's at all*
<midfavila> same honestly
<midfavila> but i've been considering looking into initrds just for the opportunity to fiddle with LUKS
<midfavila> oh yeah, btw dilyn, don't know if you care about stinky old X11 stuff but I'm working on porting CDE to kiss
<shokara> same, tinyramfs looked nice for that
<shokara> it'd be nice if cde works without tcl
<dilyn> x11 is gross and I've never liked it
<dilyn> :P
<dilyn> I refuse to use initrd if I can help it but in this case I'm working with a generic kernel so I need it to work
<dilyn> kmod is broken as far as I can tell
<midfavila> honestly, long-term i want to write my own display subsystem for unix
<midfavila> i don't like X11 based on its size alone
<shokara> not even tinyx?
<midfavila> tinyx is just an X server, you have to take into account everything you need to actually do work under X
<midfavila> the core X distribution and what it relies on is like
<midfavila> hundreds of thousands of lines of code
<midfavila> maybe even millions
<shokara> ah that's what you meant
<shokara> agreed
<midfavila> yeah, total stack complexity
<shokara> and I'm not a fan of wayland either
<midfavila> i maintain that mgr is half decent
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<midfavila> *man*, finding an entry level job that doesn't *completely* suck is fucking impossible
<midfavila> what the hell man, 30-40 years ago being able to program in BASIC was enough to get you a job out of high school. blah
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