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<shokara_> can files installed from a package be listed with kiss? (something like pkg_info -L or pacman -Ql)
<shokara_> if not, I guess I'll try adding something like crux's footprint files
<midfavila> kiss manifest
<shokara_> :O
<shokara_> I didn't know that the kiss-* files other than kiss-new existed, thanks
<midfavila> ye
<shokara_> exactly what I wanted, thanks
<midfavila> yw shokie uwu
<shokara_> I finally got a usable kiss system after days of fighting with very sluggish ext4 speeds
<shokara_> much preferring this to crux
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<niceguy5000[m]> Kiss linux just works.
<sewn> Hi
<niceguy5000[m]> wael: HIIIII
<testuser[m]123> Hi
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<aelspire> Hi
<sewn> i just had to remove all pip packages and it werks
<aelspire> this time removing upper version limit doesn't work
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<testuser[m]123> because the version changed
<testuser[m]123> lol
<aelspire> nope
<testuser[m]123> in the ff tarball
<aelspire> not that easy
<aelspire> nope
<aelspire> trash-cli requires typing
<aelspire> typing is build-in python module
<aelspire> so it is not installed according to pip-check
<testuser[m]123> what does that have to do with ff tho
<aelspire> I'm patching trash-cli to remove typing as dep
<aelspire> when mach-something variable is set to system
<aelspire> it runs pip check
<aelspire> and abort build if it returns some errors
<aelspire> and pip check indeed return error
<aelspire> this line is problem
<aelspire> there is not typing in requirements.txt
<aelspire> and this is build-in python module so I assume that it is safe do remove this dep
<aelspire> I've removed both sed with psutil version (firefox now requres currently packaged version) and this `typing` dep and now firefox is building
<aelspire> typing should be typing;python_version<'3.5'
<aelspire> I'll need to report it upstream
<aelspire> I'll need to dust off my private github
<aelspire> so wrong dependency of trash-cli breaks firefox build which doesn't depend on trash-cli at all, pretty logic isn't it?
<aelspire> I love overengineered solutions
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<testuser[m]123> aelspire: that's transitive dependencies for you :P
<aelspire> yeah
<aelspire> sandboxed build would be cool
<aelspire> so I openend my laptop before work today fo rename libinih to inih and spend this morning fixing firefox build
<testuser[m]123> i hate package renames
<testuser[m]123> its ok to let them be tbh
<aelspire> I've thought about it
<testuser[m]123> otherwise you need to swap alternatives and fix up for those who have it installed
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<aelspire> currently no package in community depends on libinih
<aelspire> and this package is not named libinih in other places
<aelspire> it is inih
<aelspire> is it possible to contribute to codeberg's repos via send-patch?
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<testuser[m]123> aelspire: if nothing else needs it then ok
<testuser[m]123> then it should probably be dropped
<testuser[m]123> since its a lib
<aelspire> you think so?
<aelspire> I adopted it as I have it as dep of my package in my repo
<sewn> if its in community some other package must have been dependent on it, but no package needs it
<aelspire> and thought that if I'm going to maintain it I can do it in community repo for other people to use it too
<aelspire> wasn't it about sharing some packages in community?
<sewn> true
<sewn> according to arch's packages, libinih is a dependency of imv, yuzu, and gamemode
<sewn> i believe imv was once in community but got dropped
<aelspire> and f
<aelspire> I was going to ask which packages from my repo we want in community
<sewn> I'm not sure why the Wayland desktop portal stuff is not in community
<sewn> cuz most Wayland users probably would want those
<aelspire> dbus
<sewn> are they not there cuz it needs dbus?
<testuser[m]123> ye
<testuser[m]123> its in my repo
<sewn> bruh
<testuser[m]123> eg dbus-wrap firefox if i want screensharing
<testuser[m]123> i use a dbus wrap script to just launch dbus unprivilieged and run the program under a namespace
<sewn> why don't you guys make a separate kiss repo for the portals
<testuser[m]123> then dbus is kil when i close ff
<aelspire> is it time for community/dbus?
<sewn> no dylanaraps will kill us
<aelspire> i use dbus for opening links from sfeed
<aelspire> in firefox…
<testuser[m]123> ye it'd be useful
<sewn> he will crawl out of his grave
<testuser[m]123> for bnluez
<testuser[m]123> it can exist outside community
<sewn> kiss-bloat
<sewn> plz
<sewn> testuser[m]123: you used to maintain a bloat repo under gkisslinux
<sewn> maybe its time to bring back?!??!
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<aelspire> I think so, if every single of us is gonna maintain their own dbus package…
<sewn> exactly what we are already doing
<aelspire> dbus is horrible mess…
<sewn> we don't have a choice (except xorg cuz no dbus lo)
<sewn> or bring back libdbus-stub
<aelspire> but there is actual functionality in some apps that actually requires dbus to work
<aelspire> there are*
<aelspire> using libdbus-stub will make no sense when you can just disable dbus in build
<sewn> dbus for the portals i mean
<aelspire> this will unblock portals, bluetooth etc.
<sewn> why the hell would they need dbus anyway though
<aelspire> no idea
<sewn> for app and wayland compositor to communicate?
<aelspire> no
<aelspire> wayland uses just socket and shm
<sewn> then why would portal need dbus lol
<aelspire> I think they are using it to access filesystem
<aelspire> and for negotiating screensharing
<aelspire> without allowing sandboxed app to access everything
<sewn> seems to depend on basu as well, which is from systemd
<sewn> well, extracted to be more specific
<aelspire> nope
<aelspire> basu is stub for some systemd libs AFAIK
<sewn> noted
<aelspire> or maybe not
<sewn> un-noted
<aelspire> you are right it's written that it is extracted
<aelspire> systemd is cult behaving as virus
<sewn> thank red hat
<aelspire> it is only OSS project I allow myself to fully hate
<aelspire> not even GNOME is on this list
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<sewn> midfavila:
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<midfavila> ah yes, fastestcode anon
<midfavila> i do use emwm from time to time, and ximaging, as well
<midfavila> also, reference get for my resume :D
<midfavila> CEO of a computer security company
<midfavila> "hi yes this is mister techbro of company suchandsuch, mid isn't completely retarded, please give him a job so people will stop calling me"
<midfavila> having a CEO with a PhD being willing to vouch for me has to count for something
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<rohan> hey guys
<rohan> is flatpak working 100% in kiss?
<rohan> i think in go back to kiss but sometimes i need steam and arduino IDE for college work
<rohan> steam just for fun
<rohan> play some games
<midfavila> >arduino for college
<midfavila> use emacs smdh
<rohan> bro
<rohan> i will need to program in pure C for avr
<midfavila> ez
<rohan> with arduino IDE i dont
<rohan> is complitace things for such simple work
<rohan> but maybe i can handle it
<rohan> but steam is other situation
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<Torr> Ahoy
<midfavila> hullo
<Torr> midfavila: How u doing?
<midfavila> well
<midfavila> aside from barely being able to walk i guess i'm alive
<midfavila> so that's a thing
<Torr> Ouch
<Torr> What happened?
<midfavila> chronic ingrown toenails :D
<midfavila> quite possibly one of the worst "mundane" conditions to have
<Torr> Yeah, those are painful.
<midfavila> i love coming home from work and having a toe that's turned purple
<midfavila> it's *great*
<midfavila> getting surgery for it soon:tm:
<Torr> Isn't there a procedure to cure it?
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