<shokara_>
midfavila: hey, do you know if a patch is already available for using bearssl in links? if not, I'm thinking of trying that within a couple days
<midfavila>
to my knowledge it's not a thing yet
<shokara_>
ok
<midfavila>
i looked at the codebase of links1 at the least and it "only" references OpenSSL functions ~60-70 times if memory serves
<shokara_>
since curl already can use bearssl, I want to switch more of my programs to use it as well
<midfavila>
suggestion: if you're going to try to patch links to use bearssl, try to patch it to use libtls instead
<shokara_>
libtls from libressl?
<shokara_>
I could do that too, but may I ask why?
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<midfavila>
yes. because libtls can sit atop any number of TLS libraries
<shokara_>
oh, didn't know that
<midfavila>
mhm
<shokara_>
that's actually quite nice
<midfavila>
bearssl has a libtls from mcf
<shokara_>
I'll do that instead then, thanks
<midfavila>
apportate uses libtls and can build and link against libre, open, and bear as a result
<midfavila>
also wow holy shit it's wild how like
<midfavila>
actually eating makes you not feel like death
<midfavila>
*apparently* i'm supposed to be consuming a minimum of 3200kcal a day, and i've been getting like half of that for months
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<shokara_>
I thought 2000 is the average intake you're supposed to get
<shokara_>
but true, I like eating
<midfavila>
2k is the average of the BMRs between a healthy male and a healthy female
<midfavila>
afaik anyway
<midfavila>
but different individuals have different needs according to activity level, body composition, size, and a host of other factors
<shokara_>
ah
<shokara_>
that makes sense
<midfavila>
reminds me that i need to get a pedometer
<shokara_>
so you can see how far you're away from tim cook? :D
<midfavila>
i don't like smartwatches because they're just... they're just fucking stupid
<shokara_>
agreed
<shokara_>
and I don't like the idea of having to charge a watch everyday
<midfavila>
like you have something with equivalent computational capability to a computer from ~20-30 years ago on your wrist and yet you can't do shit with it because it outsources everything to your smartphone
<shokara_>
at least that's what I'm seeing apple watch users doing
<midfavila>
all i want is a watch that tells the time, maybe the ambient temperature, counts steps, etc without bluetooth or wifi
<shokara_>
my dad for example still has an iphone he doesn't use because he likes his apple watch...
<shokara_>
I dungeddit
<shokara_>
anyways, can this basically be used to mod an existing casio f91w?
<midfavila>
yeap
<shokara_>
great
<shokara_>
I really like the f91w
<midfavila>
turn your terrorist watch into a terroristor watch
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<shokara_> "I dungeddit" <- Don't ask, Consoom product, get excited for next product
<shokara_>
but the differences in apple products are so minimal these days
<shokara_>
uh years
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<midfavila>
turns out that athena *does* in fact support submenus
<midfavila>
got that mostly figured out this morning
<shokara_>
nice
<shokara_>
I think emacs uses that
<midfavila>
purrhaps
<midfavila>
apparently xedit does
<midfavila>
looking at this *single fucking changelog entry from 1999* that's as far as I can tell the *only* actual documentation about this
<midfavila>
for whatever reason though parent menus don't pass focus to child menus, at least by default
<midfavila>
need to write motif-style docs for athena at some point
<shokara_>
ok that's annoying
<midfavila>
yeah there's no documentation for athena
<midfavila>
aside from the comments at the start of some of the header files and a C API description that hasn't been touched since the early 90s at best
<midfavila>
man
<midfavila>
xine's stuttering when it comes to mpeg4 audio decoding is just insane for me
<midfavila>
i want to *say* it's a buffering issue but adjusting the size of the buffers doesn't seem to do anything, and i've fiddled with every other option I can find. blah
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