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<sad_plan> agreed illiliti
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<sprig> im getting a kernel panic unknown-block(0, 0), are there any kernel modules i have to enable to run in vmware?
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<rohan> hey guys
<rohan> the default build flags in codeberg repo
<rohan> is just for install or can i use in all packages?
<drez> midfavila: here is gnomeless slackware http://superboxon.com/
<sad_plan> do you mean the generic compiler flags? rohan
<rohan> yeah
<drez> well it has gtk2 and a billion other things but at least it is more usable
<rohan> what is recommended in repo release
<sad_plan> if someone else is going to your built package, you probably wanna use the generic flags, yes
<sad_plan> else, others might not be able to run the binaries
<drez> whoops its broken
<drez> >I always prefer Arch or Slackware instead of Debian based. Superboxon has problems, and pretty broken, because not finished work I think. Using GRUB in gfxmode (not console TUI) in an distro install, it’s very very bad idea (like in PCLinuxOS). Some GPUs, hardware, coreboot… can’t see GRUB’s menu, because it’s boot in gfxmode as default. The most useable distro from the list is AntiX.
<rohan> okay
<rohan> now
<rohan> i questioned early
<rohan> but have guys using meson setup in build files?
<rohan> or just meson
<sad_plan> meson setup, is used in atleast xorg repo, due to the shift towards to muon instead of meson
<sad_plan> meson setup is initially getting deprecated iirc. but muon uses muon setup
<sad_plan> meson setup was just used as a preperation towards to muon shift. but its still a work in progress so far anyway
<rohan> understand
<rohan> and now
<sad_plan> not sure if illiliti made any progress on this or not? I know theres still couple pacakges having some issues
<rohan> i get a error when update kiss repo
<sad_plan> atleast last time I looked at the PR
<sad_plan> what error?
<rohan> somethin about not having ssh-keygen
<rohan> commit has bad PGP signatur
<rohan> GPG*
<sad_plan> thats from openssh. have you enabled signature verification in the repo?
<rohan> yes i enabled
<sad_plan> if yes, you can disable it. should fix the issue
<rohan> thank you
<rohan> man
<rohan> kiss still have much discussions
<rohan> maybe is not a time to discuss one by one?
<rohan> like go back to libressl
<sad_plan> theres an issue about that. but it hasnt really been any more about it.
<sad_plan> I use libressl, aswell as couple others here
<sad_plan> you can use libressl yourself if you like. theres not too many packages that requires any changes initially
<rohan> yeah but maybe be good to pull in repo
<sad_plan> yeah, use personal repo for that
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<rohan> the issue with new line in foot still not solved?
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<sad_plan> not to my knowledge. have you checked foot git repo?
<rohan> no
<rohan> bit i think this is a error in kiss
<rohan> i not have this error before
<rohan> or in gentoo when i used
<rohan> and is the same version i used when i left kiss months ago
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<sad_plan> nothing about your config that would cause it? can you replicate it with same config on say gentoo?
<rohan> yeah
<rohan> i used the default config for foot
<rohan> and nothing
<davidgarland> lol
<midfavila> based
<midfavila> i would use something like that
<sad_plan> rohan: then im not sure. you can create an issue about it though
<sad_plan> niceguy5000[m]: what even is thath thing? look dope though
<sad_plan> wait, is it an old mac machine?
<sad_plan> I noticed the old school apple icon left of the screen
<midfavila> might be a fakeout
* midfavila shrugs
<midfavila> i don't know of any apple luggables
<midfavila> and apple would never use translucent plastic
<sad_plan> probably a fakeout yeah. not a apple historic, but from what Ive seen so far, I would agree. could just be a sticker aswell
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<davidgarland> "apple would never use translucent plastic" what about the g3 and the clamshell
<sad_plan> i forgot about the g3. its only partially translucent though, and only on the sides afaik
<sad_plan> the desktopthat is
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<sad_plan> the clamshell laptop is also only partially translucent though. similarly to the desktop
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<davidgarland> "partially translucent" feels a bit redundant, if it wasn't partial it'd be called transparent xp
<davidgarland> but fair
<davidgarland> definitely not like in the pic they linked
<sad_plan> yeah, maybe a poor choice of words on my end :p
<testuser[m]123> Hi
<davidgarland> o/
<sad_plan> hi
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<sewn> Hi
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<sewn> sad_plan:
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<aelspire> Hi
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<aelspire> I've managed to replace thunderbird with fdm+msmtp+mblaze \O/
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<sewn> fr ong
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<sad_plan> hi
<sad_plan> sewn: hah, yeah thaths a bummer when the cookie dont fit in the milk glass :(
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<sad_plan> > not for resale
<sad_plan> > its listed on ebay
<sad_plan> lol
<sad_plan> yeah, thats the one
<sad_plan> also a prototype
<sad_plan> it seems
<omanom> yeah, its interesting that they didn't offer the clear case option to anyone once it went into production
<sad_plan> cool looking device though. probably heavy as shit though :p
<sad_plan> probably didnt like the design all that much. didnt fit their aestetic. I dunno
<sad_plan> cool none the lesss
<omanom> 16lbs
<omanom> >The lead-acid battery on the non-backlit Portable offered up to ten hours of usage time, and the Portable draws the same amount of power when turned off, and when in sleep mode.
<omanom> lol so you had to keep it plugged in perpetually
<sad_plan> "portable" they said. lol
<sad_plan> hope you brought a looong extension cord for you meeting though
<sad_plan> else youre gonna go out of power mid presentation on that important meeting of yours
<sad_plan> lol
<omanom> >As with automotive batteries, the sealed lead-acid cells used in the Portable failed if they were fully discharged.
<sad_plan> even better. forgot to charge your laptop? now its dead. time to buy a new one
<sad_plan> price? a year worth of salary or something
<sad_plan> I wonder how on earth apple made such a useless device though. I mean, I dont like apple to begin with, but their hardware is rather decent though
<schillingklaus> everything from apple is useless
<sad_plan> putting linux on older laptops has been rather popular it seems though. I know their older laptops and so has had their... flaws to put it mildly
<omanom> nah, not everything from apple is useless. i used my ipod touch as an external storage hdd and it worked great. even ran counter-strike off of it.
<sad_plan> the performance anyway on their phones, and the m1 mac and similar is initially quite good though. its just the software that I dont initially like, aswell as a couple other things
<sad_plan> ^ exacly
<omanom> i had a macbook pro for years that worked great, too. i put FreeBSD on it once they wouldn't upgrade its OS and got another couple good years
<sad_plan> cool. that seems to have been a somewhat popular choice. at least with linux. not that familiar with bsd
<schillingklaus> osx contains some freebsd code
<sad_plan> ps4 OS is also based on freebsd actually
<midfavila> just don't start saying that MacOS is a BSD...
<rio6> macbsd
<sad_plan> midfavila: no worries, I wont anyway :p
<midfavila> do you want to fucking throw hands rio6?
<midfavila> meet me behind the mcdonalds after class >:c
<sad_plan> get wrecked
<midfavila> i will *literally* pick you up
<rio6> 🙃
<midfavila> and then give you a big hug and place you back on the ground because we don't do violence in #kisslinux
<sewn> midfavila: what are you gonna do next mid
<midfavila> probably scream and then die, like i do every day
<sewn> you've already picked them up thats a hug already
<sewn> should have given them a kiss smh my head
<midfavila> small-minded C H I L D
<midfavila> there are many ways i can pick someone up
<sad_plan> I would put my money on mid going on a rant on why his wrong
<midfavila> this is a wise man
<sad_plan> :D
<sewn> midfavila: ok what you're gonna pick them up by their ears then?
<midfavila> idk last time i was screwing around with a friend i just grabbed them by their legs
<midfavila> that worked
* midfavila shrugs
<sewn> you have to be tall as shit to do that
<midfavila> lmao no
<sad_plan> just grap their legs, and pull hard. they'll fall
<omanom> mid is short, he just ran at them and bearhugged their legs
<sewn> FR
<midfavila> i'm not *short*, i'm 5'10"
<sad_plan> are you implying mid is a midget?
<midfavila> i'm slightly taller than average gtfo nerd
<sewn> ....................................................................................
<omanom> he just has really tall friends
<midfavila> it's like you guys have never thought of just ducking over
<midfavila> wild
<omanom> fireman's carry :)
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<shokara> "< midfavila> just don't start saying that MacOS is a BSD..." ackshualtyula, darwin is a bsd
* midfavila strangles shokara in Minetest
* shokara commits /kill faster
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<Torr> Ahoy
<sewn> Hello torr
<sad_plan> hi Torr
* Torr salutes sewn and sad_plan
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<shokara> huh, I wonder how hard it'd be to create a openjdk package using gcj as the bootstrap jdk
<shokara> iirc, kiss-java didn't use gcj and worked its way up from very early java versions
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<Torr> midfavila: Nice
<Torr> shokara_: U could have a look at OpenBSD's Jdk build.
<Torr> Their builds frequently have some cool sauce.
<Torr> midfavila: btw, how's ur foot buddy?
<midfavila> about on par with the usual
<Torr> Sounds painful
<Torr> What about the surgery, is it scheduled?
<midfavila> later this month, yeah
<midfavila> and then i get to sit around and do fuck all for 2-6 weeks
<midfavila> fortunately NEETcare:tm: will pay for it
<midfavila> god knows i can't afford it on my own lmao
<Torr> Yeah
<Torr> U could use this distro to flirt with the nurses.
<Torr> "Hello, what do you do?"
<Torr> "I KISS baby, I KISS all night long"
<Torr> xD
<midfavila> i don't think i want to piss the people with needles and scalpels off
<Ellowee[m]> Is there a *fully free* way to build java?
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