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<testuser[m]> Hi
<testuser[m]> midfavila: I also tried to add a dummy credit card before because they didn't let you remove the sole payment method (i.e friend's card) and they want a pic of the non-existing owner of that card too lol
<testuser[m]> Gonna pay in shitcoins only from now and find another provider
<midfavila> use a pubnix
<midfavila> stop paying for computing resources
<illiliti> what if he needs root
<midfavila> then he's fucked i guess
* midfavila shrugs
<midfavila> or you can get a VPS through a pubnix
<midfavila> and still avoid dealing with retarded providers
<midfavila> obligatory SDF mention, you can pay for one with cash :D
<illiliti> hmm, why no one is considering hosting at home?
<illiliti> if your isp is good, it's best option imho
<midfavila> i mean, in my case, i'm just lazy
<midfavila> that's a lot of effort and it opens up potential security issues that i just don't feel like dealing with
<midfavila> plus, if, say, a (purely hypothetical) massive storm blows through my area and knocks out the power grid, now nobody can reach my email/irc/whatever
<midfavila> like
<midfavila> i guess if you just want to offer stuff that's whatever, doesn't need reliability, go for it
<illiliti> power grid is not a problem if you have failsafe
<illiliti> but yeah, that's a lot of effort. reliability isn't simple
<midfavila> unless your failsafe also allows you to handle your uplink, no, it's still a problem
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<sewn> Hi
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<sad_plan> hi
<sad_plan> unless you host something like a mailserver, or other rather important stuff, I dont see why one cant selfhost your your services. like website, git server, and possibly other stuff aswell
<sad_plan> so I agree with illiliti here
<sewn> matrix is on his vps
<sad_plan> he has his own matrix server?
<sewn> yes
<sad_plan> hm, ok. then reliability and uptime is rather important.. selfhosting then might not be a viable option in this usecase
<sewn> he's still alive, sad_plan
<sad_plan> I state that he wasnt :p
<sad_plan> s/I/I didnt/
<sewn> boo
<niceguy5000[m]> <midfavila> "that's a lot of effort and it..." <- can you just have a openvpn to open ports?
<niceguy5000[m]> Plus you can run inside a vm.
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<midfavila> i could, or i could just use sdf
<midfavila> sad_plan but that's literally what i said
<midfavila> ...well, not literally, but metaphorically
<sad_plan> we agree on this then :p
<midfavila> sure, i just don't think self-hosting trivial stuff is worth the effort
<midfavila> unless it's a hobby, in which case go for it. idk
<sad_plan> fair point
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<sad_plan> omg, his like a child lol
<sewn> I love him
<sad_plan> amazing
<sad_plan> oh, its from the onion. had to be
<midfavila> best quote has to be "can you stack your family?"
<sad_plan> yeah.
<sad_plan> then he proceeds to say ' i need to go to prison' 'now'
<midfavila> there's like
<midfavila> five or six different michael falk videos
<midfavila> every one is a gem
<sad_plan> now i have to go watch them
<midfavila> t r a i n s
<sad_plan> I can already tell this is going to be a good one. people are dead. omg
<sad_plan> > this was a very lucky day for the train
<sad_plan> this is gold midfavila
<midfavila> indeed
<testuser[m]> lmfao even getting shitcoins requires you to submit documents to shady exchanges wtf
<midfavila> you didn't know?
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<testuser[m]1> Hi
<sewn> what the fuck
<sewn> oh
<sad_plan> hi
<sewn> hi testuser what happened
<testuser[m]1> I asked them for a refund
<sad_plan> ffs, does kiss do anything that would otherwise make aliases called inside buildscripts not work?
<sad_plan> I have verifed that the buildscript actually sees the alias, but later down, when make is called, it doenst seem to stick
<sad_plan> using kiss a work, but im trying to bypass that initially..
<sad_plan> spawning another subshell shouldnt matter either, as the alias should stick afaik, as long as the first script which calls the rest has the alias sourced
<niceguy5000[m]> <testuser[m]> "lmfao even getting shitcoins..." <- you can buy monero from real people.
<niceguy5000[m]> buy coins trade to another different address. anonymous coins.
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<phoebos> > The standard developers considered that aliases were of use primarily to interactive users and that they should normally not affect shell scripts called by those users; functions are available to such scripts.