#commonlisp on 2023-06-30 — irc logs at libera.irclog.whitequark.org

2022-07-28 16:55 jackdaniel changed the topic of #commonlisp to: Common Lisp, the #1=(programmable . #1#) programming language | Wiki: <https://www.cliki.net> | IRC Logs: <https://irclog.tymoon.eu/libera/%23commonlisp> | Cookbook: <https://lispcookbook.github.io/cl-cookbook> | Pastebin: <https://plaster.tymoon.eu/>

00:00 occ has joined #commonlisp

00:02 renatoathaydes has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]

00:03 random-nick has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]

00:15 renatoathaydes has joined #commonlisp

00:21 renatoathaydes has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]

00:23 jeffrey has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]

00:26 tojoqk[m] has joined #commonlisp

00:34 renatoathaydes has joined #commonlisp

00:42 renatoathaydes has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]

00:53 renatoathaydes has joined #commonlisp

00:58 renatoathaydes has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]

01:11 renatoathaydes has joined #commonlisp

01:15 akoana has joined #commonlisp

01:16 renatoathaydes has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]

01:21 jmdaemon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]

01:28 renatoathaydes has joined #commonlisp

01:33 renatoathaydes has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]

01:44 renatoathaydes has joined #commonlisp

01:51 renatoathaydes has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]

02:07 perrierjouet has quit [Quit: WeeChat 3.8]

02:07 perrierjouet has joined #commonlisp

02:08 pieguy128 has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in]

02:08 pieguy128 has joined #commonlisp

02:09 renatoathaydes has joined #commonlisp

02:11 euandreh has joined #commonlisp

02:12 euandreh has quit [Client Quit]

02:14 renatoathaydes has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]

02:15 sgmzx has joined #commonlisp

02:33 waleee has joined #commonlisp

02:39 Gernn has joined #commonlisp

02:41 <Gernn> So I'm trying to build some stuff using clog and I can't figure out how to get images (png, jpg, etc) into a website.

02:41 renatoathaydes has joined #commonlisp

02:42 <Gernn> Totally works if it's an image with a url (from the web) or if I put it in the special 'static-files' folder in the quicklisp install of clog. But how would I put up an image from my project's directory? Like if I have ~/common-lisp/myproj/img.png

02:43 dcb has quit [Quit: MSN Messenger 4.0.0]

02:46 renatoathaydes has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]

03:01 renatoathaydes has joined #commonlisp

03:08 renatoathaydes has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]

03:12 JaguarKat has joined #commonlisp

03:14 tyson2 has quit [Remote host closed the connection]

03:23 beach` is now known as beach

03:23 <akasha> Has anyone had success loading cl-ctries lately?

03:25 <akasha> the readme says it works on SBCL version 1.0.55 but I am on 2.2.3.0 and quicklisp wouldn't find half the dependencies

03:26 torbo has left #commonlisp [ERC 5.4 (IRC client for GNU Emacs 28.2)]

03:27 <akasha> also there are some symbols in SB-KERNEL used that are not longer exported

03:38 <beach> I can't even find it with Google. What does it do?

03:41 <edwlan[m]> This library? https://github.com/danlentz/cl-ctrie

03:41 <ixelp> GitHub - danlentz/cl-ctrie: lock-free, concurrent, key/value index with efficient memory-mapped persistence and fast tra [...]

03:41 <beach> I see. Thanks.

03:47 habamax has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]

03:50 occ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]

03:56 triffid has joined #commonlisp

03:59 waleee has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]

04:08 triffid has quit [*.net *.split]

04:08 azimut has quit [*.net *.split]

04:08 ec has quit [*.net *.split]

04:08 gxt__ has quit [*.net *.split]

04:08 anticomputer has quit [*.net *.split]

04:09 azimut has joined #commonlisp

04:09 ec has joined #commonlisp

04:09 anticomputer has joined #commonlisp

04:09 triffid has joined #commonlisp

04:09 gxt__ has joined #commonlisp

04:11 mrcom__ has quit [Quit: Leaving]

04:15 akoana has quit [Quit: leaving]

04:16 hineios1 has joined #commonlisp

04:17 hineios has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds]

04:17 hineios1 is now known as hineios

04:19 JaguarKat has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]

04:21 occ has joined #commonlisp

04:31 renatoathaydes has joined #commonlisp

04:34 infra_red[m] has quit [Server closed connection]

04:34 infra_red[m] has joined #commonlisp

04:42 pieguy128_ has joined #commonlisp

04:43 pieguy128 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]

04:59 habamax has joined #commonlisp

05:05 Posterdati has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]

05:14 rainthree has joined #commonlisp

05:17 pranavats has left #commonlisp [Disconnected: Hibernating too long]

05:40 sepanko has joined #commonlisp

05:44 rgherdt has joined #commonlisp

05:49 renatoathaydes has quit [Remote host closed the connection]

05:49 renatoathaydes has joined #commonlisp

05:56 azimut has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]

05:59 dustinm` has joined #commonlisp

06:18 shka has joined #commonlisp

06:20 renatoathaydes has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]

06:33 rainthree has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]

06:34 msavoritias has joined #commonlisp

06:35 rainthree has joined #commonlisp

06:38 igemnace has joined #commonlisp

06:49 rainthree has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]

06:52 zxcvz has joined #commonlisp

06:53 zxcvz has quit [Client Quit]

06:54 thollief has joined #commonlisp

07:15 pranavats has joined #commonlisp

07:16 pve has joined #commonlisp

07:23 LW has joined #commonlisp

07:23 LW has quit [Client Quit]

07:25 mm007emko has joined #commonlisp

07:35 Posterdati has joined #commonlisp

07:41 tertek has quit [Quit: %quit%]

07:41 tertek has joined #commonlisp

07:50 akasha has quit []

08:01 habamax has quit [Quit: ERC 5.4 (IRC client for GNU Emacs 28.2)]

08:05 mgl has joined #commonlisp

08:09 msavoritias has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]

08:16 renatoathaydes has joined #commonlisp

08:20 msavoritias has joined #commonlisp

08:21 renatoathaydes has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]

08:35 attila_lendvai has joined #commonlisp

08:36 rainthree has joined #commonlisp

08:36 ec has quit [Remote host closed the connection]

08:37 ec has joined #commonlisp

08:47 dino_tutter has joined #commonlisp

08:55 sgmzx has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]

08:59 Gleefre has joined #commonlisp

09:02 makomo has joined #commonlisp

09:18 Gleefre has quit [Remote host closed the connection]

09:20 Jach has quit [Quit: Leaving.]

09:20 Lord_of_Life_ has joined #commonlisp

09:23 Lord_of_Life has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]

09:23 Lord_of_Life_ is now known as Lord_of_Life

09:23 Jach has joined #commonlisp

09:24 Grauwolf has quit [Quit: WeeChat 3.8]

09:24 Grauwolf has joined #commonlisp

09:32 Gleefre has joined #commonlisp

09:33 occ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]

09:47 Gleefre has quit [Remote host closed the connection]

09:57 gxt__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection]

09:58 gxt__ has joined #commonlisp

10:00 mingus has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]

10:08 Brucio-61 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]

10:14 akasha has joined #commonlisp

10:16 renatoathaydes has joined #commonlisp

10:21 renatoathaydes has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]

10:24 tyson2 has joined #commonlisp

10:34 Brucio-61 has joined #commonlisp

10:36 waleee has joined #commonlisp

10:54 renatoathaydes has joined #commonlisp

11:04 morganw has joined #commonlisp

11:04 morganw` has joined #commonlisp

11:06 morganw` has quit [Client Quit]

11:06 graven has joined #commonlisp

11:07 IUSR has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity]

11:09 Gleefre has joined #commonlisp

11:16 <graven> can someon help me on a problem i am facing: i have a function that returns a number, i want to run that function 10 times collect all the values nad add them together

11:16 <graven> https://plaster.tymoon.eu/view/3864#3864

11:17 <graven> but the dotimes part returns a nil last and i cannot add the numbers becuase of the nil

11:18 <paulapatience> The dotimes is not within the let

11:18 <paulapatience> The dotimes also takes a third form for the return value

11:18 <paulapatience> Put ini there

11:18 <jackdaniel> graven: your indentation is awful and makes the code hard to read

11:19 <jackdaniel> please fix it before posting questions

11:19 <jackdaniel> other than that what paulapatience is correct

11:19 <graven> sorry i dont know how to indent porperly i am just learning it

11:19 <jackdaniel> properly configured development environment should make that easier to you, but indenting i.e scoped body inside LET is a common sense I think

11:20 <jackdaniel> change your dotimes to (dotimes (n 100 ini) ...) and then that form should return ini when the iteration is finished

11:20 <jackdaniel> putting ini as the last form in the body of DOTIMES doesn't have any effect

11:21 <jackdaniel> instead of equal use (if (= x 0) ... ...) or even better (if (zerop x) ... ...)

11:21 <jackdaniel> instead of setq you may use (decf ini 3.33) and (incf ini 5)

11:23 <jackdaniel> i.e this function could look like this: https://turtleware.eu/static/paste/foo.lisp

11:24 parjanya has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]

11:25 karlosz has quit [Quit: karlosz]

11:26 <graven> Ok thank you so much for that

11:26 <graven> code is now optimised

11:26 <graven> however i still have the problem of adding them up

11:26 <graven> i try (+ (dotimes (f 10) (trial))) but this gives an error as nil is still there

11:27 <graven> is there a easier way to add all the values up from the dotimes bit at the end?

11:27 <Gleefre> with loop: (loop repeat 10 sum (trial))

11:27 <graven> * i ment (+ (dotimes (f 10) (print (trial))))

11:28 <graven> thanks Gleefre

11:28 <graven> its worked

11:28 <Gleefre> (+ (dotimes (f 10) (trial))) couldn't possibly work -- you don't store results anywhere at all

11:29 <graven> yeah i realised that so i added print to it but that gave me nil at end which i couldnt add to the numbers, thanks everyone for your help

11:29 <graven> acps

11:29 <Gleefre> print just prints numbers

11:29 <Gleefre> (not numbers, any objects actually)

11:29 <jackdaniel> graven: dotimes returns the value that is third in its arguments

11:29 <jackdaniel> so (dotimes (f 10) ...) will return nil, but (dotimes (f 10 42) ...) will return 42

11:32 <graven> i see

11:32 <graven> then what i should have been doing was this: (let ((x 0)) (dotimes (f 10 x) (incf x (trial)))

11:33 <Gleefre> That's right

11:33 <graven> ok learning everyday :D

11:34 <graven> can i just ask where can i learn all these function (incf, decf etc) i wasnt aware they existed, i am currently reading ansi common lisp

11:35 <jackdaniel> here you can find the standard: http://novaspec.org/

11:35 <ixelp> Common Lisp Nova Spec

11:35 <jackdaniel> I think that books usually cover these operators

11:35 <jackdaniel> I gather you are reading the book "ANSI Common Lisp" by Paul Graham? (because ANSI Common Lisp may very well mean the standard itself)

11:36 <jackdaniel> there are other books too (although the book by pg is my personal favourite introductory material)

11:36 <graven> yeah the "ANSI Common Lisp" by Paul Grahm, ill probably encounter them soon enough then

11:37 <jackdaniel> another (often recommended) is "Practical Common Lisp" by Peter Seibel

11:42 <graven> ill have a look at that as well then

11:44 kevingal has joined #commonlisp

11:45 renatoathaydes has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]

11:50 dcb has joined #commonlisp

11:54 karlosz has joined #commonlisp

12:01 random-nick has joined #commonlisp

12:02 graven has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]

12:02 habamax has joined #commonlisp

12:10 Gleefre has quit [Remote host closed the connection]

12:11 pve has quit [Remote host closed the connection]

12:11 mm007emko has quit [Quit: Client closed]

12:16 Gleefre has joined #commonlisp

12:20 pve has joined #commonlisp

12:30 mgl has quit [Quit: Client closed]

12:35 rainthree has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]

12:35 rainthree3 has joined #commonlisp

12:36 rainthree has joined #commonlisp

12:40 jeosol has quit [Quit: Client closed]

12:40 rainthree3 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]

12:40 graven has joined #commonlisp

12:41 graven has quit [Changing host]

12:41 graven has joined #commonlisp

12:44 jeffrey has joined #commonlisp

12:51 kevingal has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]

13:14 pranavats has left #commonlisp [Error from remote client]

13:25 graven has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]

13:28 overclucker_ has joined #commonlisp

13:29 overclucker has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]

13:35 azimut has joined #commonlisp

13:40 parjanya has joined #commonlisp

13:41 renatoathaydes has joined #commonlisp

13:45 renatoathaydes has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]

13:59 splatt990 has joined #commonlisp

14:17 JaguarKat has joined #commonlisp

14:17 msavoritias has quit [Remote host closed the connection]

14:26 tyson2 has quit [Remote host closed the connection]

14:27 kevingal has joined #commonlisp

14:31 graven has joined #commonlisp

14:42 habamax has quit [Quit: ERC 5.5.0.29.1 (IRC client for GNU Emacs 29.0.92)]

14:44 tyson2 has joined #commonlisp

14:45 kevingal has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]

15:03 msavoritias has joined #commonlisp

15:05 notzmv has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]

15:08 waleee has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]

15:15 Gernn has left #commonlisp [ERC 5.5 (IRC client for GNU Emacs 29.0.60)]

15:15 dino_tutter has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]

15:24 cage has joined #commonlisp

15:29 rgherdt has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]

15:30 rgherdt has joined #commonlisp

15:32 occ has joined #commonlisp

15:39 pjb has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]

15:39 coderfrog[m] has quit [Server closed connection]

15:41 renatoathaydes has joined #commonlisp

15:46 renatoathaydes has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]

15:46 renatoathaydes has joined #commonlisp

15:47 graven has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]

15:48 graven has joined #commonlisp

15:53 tyson2 has quit [Remote host closed the connection]

15:56 pjb has joined #commonlisp

15:59 doyougnu has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in]

16:00 doyougnu has joined #commonlisp

16:00 renatoathaydes has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]

16:00 pjb has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]

16:05 jeffrey has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]

16:05 matt` has joined #commonlisp

16:16 doyougnu has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in]

16:18 doyougnu has joined #commonlisp

16:23 doyougnu has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in]

16:35 ldb has joined #commonlisp

16:50 notzmv has joined #commonlisp

17:03 bjorkintosh has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]

17:03 bjorkint0sh has joined #commonlisp

17:04 dino_tutter has joined #commonlisp

17:07 bjorkintosh has joined #commonlisp

17:07 bjorkintosh has quit [Changing host]

17:07 notzmv has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]

17:08 bjorkint0sh has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]

17:11 ronald has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]

17:11 rainthree has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]

17:12 ronald has joined #commonlisp

17:20 coderfrog[m] has joined #commonlisp

17:20 BrownJenkin has joined #commonlisp

17:27 Lycurgus has joined #commonlisp

17:29 azimut has quit [Remote host closed the connection]

17:29 ronald has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]

17:29 azimut has joined #commonlisp

17:31 ronald has joined #commonlisp

17:31 akoana has joined #commonlisp

17:46 ldb has quit [Quit: ERC 5.4 (IRC client for GNU Emacs 28.1)]

17:50 tyson2 has joined #commonlisp

17:55 alcor has joined #commonlisp

17:56 morganw has quit [Remote host closed the connection]

17:59 Lycurgus has quit [Quit: Exeunt: personae.ai-integration.biz]

17:59 renatoathaydes has joined #commonlisp

18:20 renatoathaydes has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds]

18:20 renatoathaydes has joined #commonlisp

18:47 Inline has joined #commonlisp

18:48 renatoathaydes has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]

18:58 tyson2 has quit [Remote host closed the connection]

18:59 Oladon has joined #commonlisp

19:04 Brucio-61 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]

19:09 akoana has quit [Quit: leaving]

19:09 graven has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]

19:17 notzmv has joined #commonlisp

19:21 contrapunctus has left #commonlisp [#commonlisp]

19:25 contrapunctus has joined #commonlisp

19:29 renatoathaydes has joined #commonlisp

19:32 Brucio-61 has joined #commonlisp

19:36 JaguarKat has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]

19:48 triffid has quit [Remote host closed the connection]

19:49 thollief has quit [Quit: Leaving]

20:03 cage has quit [Quit: rcirc on GNU Emacs 28.2]

20:07 rogersm has joined #commonlisp

20:12 igemnace has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.0.0]

20:12 ec has quit [Remote host closed the connection]

20:16 ec has joined #commonlisp

20:16 makomo has quit [Quit: WeeChat 3.6]

20:16 karlosz has quit [Quit: karlosz]

20:22 <paulapatience> Is it weird for a mixin class to expect that the classes it's mixed into have certain slots? I want to avoid shadowing slots when defining a class that inherits from several mixins.

20:25 <bike> you could make the mixin a child class of whatever superclass has those slots.

20:27 <paulapatience> Oh I see what you mean

20:33 triffid has joined #commonlisp

20:36 contrapunctus has left #commonlisp [#commonlisp]

20:40 contrapunctus has joined #commonlisp

20:44 tyson2 has joined #commonlisp

20:45 shka has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]

20:46 igemnace has joined #commonlisp

20:49 karlosz has joined #commonlisp

20:51 Inline has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]

20:56 waleee has joined #commonlisp

21:02 Lycurgus has joined #commonlisp

21:07 <paulapatience> But if the mixins are meant to be used by users of the hypothetical library that exports them, they would be presumably more flexible if they didn't inherit from the superclass. As long as the classes they're mixed into define the right methods for accessing the slots, then the mixins don't have to actually care if the slots exist, or what names they have.

21:11 msavoritias has quit [Remote host closed the connection]

21:12 pve has quit [Quit: leaving]

21:15 Inline has joined #commonlisp

21:16 matt` has quit [Remote host closed the connection]

21:16 igemnace has quit [Remote host closed the connection]

21:17 igemnace has joined #commonlisp

21:18 attila_lendvai_ has joined #commonlisp

21:20 attila_lendvai has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]

21:23 alcor has quit [Remote host closed the connection]

21:24 waleee has quit [Remote host closed the connection]

21:27 waleee has joined #commonlisp

21:32 pranavats has joined #commonlisp

21:35 JaguarKat has joined #commonlisp

21:35 waleee has quit [Remote host closed the connection]

21:35 waleee has joined #commonlisp

21:41 waleee has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]

21:52 Lycurgus has quit [Quit: Exeunt: personae.ai-integration.biz]

21:58 ec has quit [Quit: ec]

21:58 ec has joined #commonlisp

22:01 rtypo has joined #commonlisp

22:10 ec has quit [Quit: ec]

22:11 ec has joined #commonlisp

22:12 pjb has joined #commonlisp

22:13 ec has quit [Client Quit]

22:14 chrcav has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]

22:16 dino_tutter has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]

22:16 chrcav has joined #commonlisp

22:18 renatoathaydes has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]

22:18 renatoathaydes has joined #commonlisp

22:23 ec has joined #commonlisp

22:23 renatoathaydes has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]

22:32 attila_lendvai_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection]

22:32 attila_lendvai_ has joined #commonlisp

22:36 attila_lendvai_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]

22:37 attila_lendvai_ has joined #commonlisp

22:39 attila_lendvai_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection]

22:39 attila_lendvai_ has joined #commonlisp

22:44 renatoathaydes has joined #commonlisp

22:52 renatoathaydes has quit [Remote host closed the connection]

22:53 renatoathaydes has joined #commonlisp

22:58 renatoathaydes has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds]

22:59 renatoathaydes has joined #commonlisp

23:00 Oladon has quit [Quit: Leaving.]

23:03 igemnace has quit [Remote host closed the connection]

23:03 dra has joined #commonlisp

23:03 dra has quit [Changing host]

23:03 dra has joined #commonlisp

23:04 renatoathaydes has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]

23:13 Oladon has joined #commonlisp

23:16 attila_lendvai_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection]

23:17 attila_lendvai has joined #commonlisp

23:22 kevingal has joined #commonlisp

23:22 rtypo has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]

23:23 renatoathaydes has joined #commonlisp

23:26 attila_lendvai has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]

23:26 attila_lendvai has joined #commonlisp

23:27 Gleefre has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]

23:29 renatoathaydes has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]

23:34 bilegeek has joined #commonlisp

23:41 attila_lendvai has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]

23:42 renatoathaydes has joined #commonlisp

23:42 attila_lendvai has joined #commonlisp

23:45 kevingal has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]

23:47 renatoathaydes has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]

23:49 johnjaye has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]

23:51 johnjaye has joined #commonlisp

23:59 lucasta has joined #commonlisp

23:59 renatoathaydes has joined #commonlisp