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<the_oz> as far as catechisms go, they're much more alike than different
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<mcrod> note: i am biased, because i've been using git since before it was cool
<mcrod> but why does everyone like hg
<heat> because they don't use it
<heat> hth
<mcrod> it doesn't
<mcrod> this isn't some random opinion either; i've heard too often people wish hg would've won
<mcrod> and for the life of me I don't understand why
<mcrod> git naturally makes sense to me on a basic level: make a branch, do your shit in there, ask to merge to main
<mcrod> and frankly, git isn't going anywhere probably for the rest of our lives
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<mcrod> i had this argument with someone at work: you can be goddamn sure the only two compilers that will be relevant until the heat death of the universe is gcc and clang going forward, and you can also be goddamn sure git is the same
<the_oz> it's python is a major reason
<the_oz> but not shitty like bzr
<mcrod> that doesn't make sense to me at all, to the point of not being a real reason
<the_oz> it's not a reason for YOU
<mcrod> what would the implementation language of the VCS in question have any relevance on its use for people?
<the_oz> being able to pop open the source and see what's going on is more useful than you think
<mcrod> pretty sure you can do that with git
<mcrod> git isn't proprietary
<the_oz> -I- am not as familiar as shitty shell, perl, ruby etc
<the_oz> "You can also visit hell, what's the problem?"
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<mcrod> i'm saying "being able to pop open the source and see what's going on is more useful than you think" isn't a real reason, since you can do the same with git
<mcrod> and frankly, I've never encountered a situation where you have to... inspect the source code of the VCS you're using to solve a problem
<the_oz> No, I cannot
<mcrod> if you're doing that, there are much bigger problems at play there.
<the_oz> My reasoning is tailored to my context, being me
<mcrod> well, okay then
<the_oz> Should I psychologically minimize you whil asking what your experienc is?
<the_oz> >e key is broken dodgy
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<Ermine> heat: that's similar to lisp: some people worship it, but no one uses it
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<nikolapdp> oi
<nikolapdp> KERNAL
<heat> KENRAL
<nikolapdp> LANREK
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<zid`> laser kernel!
<nikolapdp> indeed
<zid`> elk learners, laser kernel, real kernels, leek snarler
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<heat> linux kernel
<nikolar> we should kernel our lasers
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<heat> fuckin kernel man, fuckin kernel
<nikolapdp> weird fetish but ok
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<heat> kernelfucker69
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<nikolapdp> lel
<fedaykin> what's wrong with the kernel?
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<hwpplayer1> who cares about mach ?
<nikolapdp> what's wrong with mac
<nikolapdp> *mach
<hwpplayer1> I want to ask who is interested
<hwpplayer1> I am not a native speaker
<hwpplayer1> I'm learning this project
<zid`> hwpplayer1: 'Who cares?' -> "Nobody cares". 'Who cares about mach?' -> "Nobody cares about mach"
<hwpplayer1> I understood okay sorry
<zid`> also, nobody cares about mach.
<nikolapdp> kek
<nikolapdp> apple certainly does
<zid`> do they though
<nikolapdp> well they are using it
<heat> they're not
<zid`> ios baby
<nikolapdp> are they not heat
<hwpplayer1> I was trying to make a conversation about it Thanks
<heat> xnu is when BSD and Mach had SEX 20 years ago
<nikolapdp> so still mach
<heat> it's not mach, and it's not BSD
<heat> also BSD had sex, fucking crazy!?
<nikolapdp> aren't they just running a bsd kernel as a process within mach or something silly like that
<heat> gnu mach is far more mach than xnu
<heat> so you could say GNU cares
<heat> but gnu hurd lol
<hwpplayer1> understood
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<kof673> hwpplayer1, there was that https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NextBSD > NextBSD is a code name for our "science project"
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<hwpplayer1> let me check kof673
<hwpplayer1> Thanks
<hwpplayer1> are you from #netbsd team ? kof673 ?
<hwpplayer1> sorry
<kof673> no, the way of the fool is never join any team :D
<hwpplayer1> nextbsd
<hwpplayer1> okay
<kof673> there were people trying to transplant a frankenkernel from ancient darwin onto nextstep too, but don't think that counts :D
<kof673> not related to the above
<hwpplayer1> okay got it
<kof673> > is how email used to quote
<hwpplayer1> I've tested "UNIX" several times by installing on machine and vm
<hwpplayer1> Now I need to dive in to deeper
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