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<sewn> Hi
<testuser[m]> Hi
<niceguy5000[m]> mesa is going to require rust at some point.
<Ellowee[m]> Why the goddamn push for rust in everything?
<Ellowee[m]> This simply excuses poor programming
<Ellowee[m]> * poor programming, and even worse optimization
<Ellowee[m]> Can't wait for kernel to start hanging
<Ellowee[m]> * Why the push for rust in everything?
<Ellowee[m]> This simply excuses poor programming, and even worse optimization
<testuser[m]> Lol
<testuser[m]> These langs suck for those who actually have to build the software but from the perspective of someone who's writing that software they save a ton of time and headache
<niceguy5000[m]> It's not really safe either so I don't why they are making the push.
<niceguy5000[m]> I'm guessing it's a herd mentality thing.
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<Ellowee[m]> <niceguy5000[m]> "I'm guessing it's a herd..." <- Heavily funded by some bad actors for (a reason)
<testuser[m]> WTF
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<clemens3> rust is a monster in resources
<clemens3> linux really goes down a wrong path
<clemens3> i am building rust via mrustc from gcc and so far it takes me 20 hours on a 8 core 16 thread machine
<clemens3> with 32 gb
<clemens3> needless to say i hate it
<niceguy5000[m]> 20 hours! WTF.
<clemens3> plus the package manager cargo by default is downloading dynamicly all kinds of libraries so you never be sure what you have on your disk
<clemens3> mrustc build 1.39 and then i iterate all the way up to 1.60
<clemens3> latest is 1.66
<clemens3> build=builds
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<aelspire> Hi
<sewn> Hi
<aelspire> I haven't been here since quite long time
<sewn> welcome bkac
<aelspire> thx
<aelspire> I'm getting a little bored with fish (shell), anyone have something cool to check?
<aelspire> for interactive use so completion and history is highly appreciated
<sewn> >fish
<aelspire> fish is pretty cool but I'm pondering if there is something else, I've checked nushell and it was cool too but I'm not sure if I'm liking it
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<phoebos> aelspire: yash is interesting
<sewn> I LOVE YADH
<sewn> Ya
<sewn> YSH
<sewn> Yash
<sewn> YASH
<aelspire> phoebos: thanks
<sewn> best shell ever
<aelspire> I've tested yash a little bit and it looks great
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<sad_plan> hi
<sewn> High
<sad_plan> low
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<Ellowee[m]> ground
<sad_plan> sky
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<Ellowee[m]> nucleus
<sad_plan> thats one of the stupid projects in silicon valley series
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<dotkwa[m]> <rei-ayanami> "anyone running this? https://..." <- interesting
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<midfavila> jesus h christ on a fucking stick, i'm *literally* freezing to death rn
<midfavila> -42C outside today
<midfavila> need to recompile linux to heat my apartment
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<saturn[m]> midfavila: what the fuck?
<midfavila> that's canadian winter for you
<midfavila> can't wait for it to raise to 5C for a day or two, melt everything, and then drop to -50C
<midfavila> that's always fun
<midfavila> just wish i had my longcoat still