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<niceguy5000[m]> wael: is that you wael?
<shokara_> "AMD 580 is 60-80 bucks." assuming this is the rx 580, then the system won't be fully blobless.
<shokara_> maybe nvidia kepler with nouveau would be completely blobless since the firmware blob is generated from source. however, my gtx 780 with nouveau over opengl3 (modded minecraft 1.12) roughly had the same performance of a skylake igpu (hd 530 on a 6700k)
<niceguy5000[m]> 580 is not blobless?
<niceguy5000[m]> I thought amd gpus were.
<niceguy5000[m]> is a gtx 780 blobless?
<shokara_> gtx 780 with nouveau I think is
<shokara_> amd gpus are not blobless, except for maybe old ati ones
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<sewn> <niceguy5000[m]> "you.png" <- where is this
<niceguy5000[m]> free software channel. I thought it was you.
<sewn> niceguy5000[m]: Where
<niceguy5000[m]> free software movement channel.
<niceguy5000[m]> I just found out it's a game oneshot character.
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<sewn> <niceguy5000[m]> "I just found out it's a game..." <- Yes
<sewn> Niko
<sewn> Onesho
<sewn> T
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<testuser[m]123> Hi
<davidgarland> o/
<davidgarland> gotta say im impressed by how pipewire Just Works(TM) so far, haven't tried unplugging+replugging anything yet or playing with a mic but the fact that it just recognized my usb-c dongle and started playing audio to it by default is very nice
<davidgarland> whether or not pulseaudio worked felt like a coin toss
<davidgarland> frequently had to open a mixer to tell it what to do
<Ellowee[m]> renting someone else's computer instead of selfhosting, smh
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<niceguy5000[m]> <Ellowee[m]> "renting someone else's computer..." <- well the computer is just a plus it's the data that you're buying. I can host but I don't have enough bandwidth to make it worth while
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<davidgarland> o/
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<midfavila> niceguy5000[m]: you need firmware blobs to initialize AMDGPU hardware
<midfavila> Ellowee[m]: doing everything on a single site is terrible opsec
<midfavila> you endanger both confidentiality and availability
<midfavila> self-hosting for any actually important services at home is a terrible idea
<midfavila> unless you can guarantee power and an uplink somehow
<midfavila> and renting a VPS isn't "self-hosting" if that's what you meant
<niceguy5000[m]> <midfavila> "niceguy5000: you need firmware..." <- What's the best blobless gpu? gtx 780 ti?
<midfavila> that's a really complicated question. it depends on what you mean by "best"
<midfavila> either way, i'm not knowledgeable enough to provide an answer better than "probably a nouvaeu-supported card"
<niceguy5000[m]> best performance blob less GPU.
<midfavila> if matrox was still friendly towards libre types then they would be the best hands-down
<midfavila> alas
<midfavila> maybe we should start an online petition, those always work
<midfavila> oh yeah happy hallmark day btw everyone
<sewn> Happy what
<midfavila> hallmark day
<midfavila> we get to celebrate hallmark being able to sell a bunch of seasonally relevant merchandise to gullible mundanes
<sewn> I thought it was valentines
<midfavila> that's what i said
<midfavila> hallmark day
<niceguy5000[m]> do you have a valentimes?
<sewn> wat
<sewn> niceguy5000: yes
<davidgarland> lol
<midfavila> i don't celebrate valentines generally speaking
<niceguy5000[m]> You don't have someone to celebrate with?
<midfavila> i only really care about the summer solstice, the winter solstice, halloween, new year's eve/day, thanksgiving, and birthdays
<midfavila> no, i just don't recognize valentine's day
<midfavila> oh and birthdays
<midfavila> everything else is just another day to me
<sewn> this is testuser on valentine's day
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<midfavila> christ i fucking hate ddg
<midfavila> complete garbage search engine and they *still* sell user data
<midfavila> there's no fucking *way* they don't
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<midfavila> i don't use any pozware, actively block tracking and JS, etc, and on the few times ads do slip through my filters they're *still* relevant to my searches
<midfavila> the only goddamn service i use that's not indie is ddg
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<midfavila> whoogle is supposed to be pretty decent right? looks like SDF hosts an instance
<dotkwa[m]> have you considered a searx/searxNG instance?
<midfavila> yes, i don't particularly like searx
<midfavila> i've never had good results with it, no matter how i tune it
<midfavila> plus it doesn't work well in links
<dotkwa[m]> oh, didn't know you were using links
<midfavila> yes, it's my primary browser
<midfavila> i have a few sites that i still unfortunately use that require JS
<midfavila> but for day to day searches and stuff i use links
<niceguy5000[m]> anyone creating the most secure system in the world? selinux plus gnu plus linux?
<niceguy5000[m]> midfavila: I saw a image Neofetch that you're using a harden kiss Linux?
<midfavila> yes
<niceguy5000[m]> What's so harden about it?
<niceguy5000[m]> did you patch it with grsecurity?
<midfavila> or, well, my attempt at hardening
<midfavila> and at the very least i've applied the -hardened patchset from GrapheneOS, and I've also disabled module loading and ensured that no code that's not strictly needed is compiled into the kernel. there's also my attempt to replace libre/openssl with bearssl, among other things
<midfavila> i'm sure the default image of like
<midfavila> debian or w/e is more secure
<midfavila> >my government uses microsoft azure to host their site
<midfavila> fucking cringe
<midfavila> need a free software party in this country goddamn
<niceguy5000[m]> do you use qemu or xen?
<midfavila> bochs when i can, qemu when i can't
<niceguy5000[m]> you don't use firefox?
<midfavila> no, i use links primarily
<midfavila> when i absolutely must access a site that requires javascript i use pale moon
<midfavila> or, well, an unbranded version of it