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<nicolas17> I want to hardcode/burn subtitles into a video, but they are not quite in sync, how do I delay the subtitles by 0.6 seconds?
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<MisterMinister> another|: thanks
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<nicolas17> hmph how do you turn 16:9 video into 4:3 reasonably?
<nicolas17> I'm thinking of splitting the difference between cropping and letterboxing
<CounterPillow> Damn it really does sound like you're making the worst encode anyone has ever had the displeasure of receiving, best of luck my man.
<nicolas17> CounterPillow: for the next step I need to figure out where I can buy a blank VHS in this day and age
<CounterPillow> Alright yep
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<nicolas17> CounterPillow: and I don't think I have a good way to connect my computer to the VCR
<nicolas17> so I might need a DVD intermediate lol
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<nicolas17> oh raspberry pi has composite video output, that will make this so much easier
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<farter> hi here's my third question about color range: when converting rgb24 to yuv using sws_scale api call, does full/limited range difference take place here? is it necessary to pass in AV_PIX_FMT_YUVJ444P since there seems to be no other way to sepcify i want full range yuv?
<JEEB> swscale has range flag
<farter> neither sws_getContext and sws_scale get avframe or some context so seems it can't get the color_range
<farter> oh wut
<JEEB> yea the avframe interface doesn't read it from the avframe (yet), IIRC. but it's there in the context I'm pretty sure since I dealt with that mess like four years ago
<JEEB> yea, see swscale.h and sws_setColorspaceDetails
<JEEB> I hope that soon the AVFrame based stuff will take it from the AVFrame
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<farter> ah just didn't find that... and took a look at the code, seems YUVJ is still handled now? so... will those YUVJ pix_fmt's eventually be deleted?
<farter> not sure how soon can i get calls to setColorSpaceDetails working haha
<farter> ff_yuv2rgb_coeffs, scary
<JEEB> yea, YUVJ is in the process of being removed but still there since the removal hasn't been full yet.
<farter> my code in this part is from official example and it seems to alloc 2 AVFrame's, fill one with data, then sws_scale is called with buffers pointers and pix_fmts (no color_space here) from the two frames. is it expected that in the future there will be something like avframe_scale(AVFrame *a,AVFrame *b) with everything read from the avframe?
<JEEB> there is already an API that utilizes the data buffers in the AVFrames
<JEEB> sws_scale_frame
<farter> will setColorSpaceDetails still be part of api, or should these be set on avframe?
<farter> ooooooooh
<JEEB> also the other sws_frame_* things and sws_send/receive_* , sws_scale_frame being the simplest use case in one call
<farter> that's just doc/examples/mux.c.... is it safe to just replace that single sws_scale call with sws_scale_frame?
<JEEB> if you're utilizing normal AVFrames and buffers in them, yes. vf_scale uses the swscale AVFrame API, and that's being utilized by most ffmpeg users
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<farter> then i'm still in doubt... which part of the info will be used according to SwsContext (sizes? pix_fmts?), and which else will be read from those 2 AVFrames (color_ranges?)? it seems kinda unspecified...
<JEEB> the color props to my knowledge atm are unused from the AVFrames since the implementor left that for the next person
<JEEB> which is why I was hoping that in the future it'll take those into mention
<farter> k.. many thanks
<farter> maybe... sticking to pix_fmt YUVJ for now will make my life easier
<JEEB> right, it also allocates you the dst AVFrame buffer if the context is defined.
<JEEB> TIL
<JEEB> (and if the buffer is not available in the dst AVFrame)
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<farter> also there's colorspace related data in both avcodeccontext and avframe, idk where which will be used
<farter> hope this don't make more trouble in the future
<JEEB> I would just look at AVFrame
<JEEB> since that is the decoded result and it is supposed to include both the possible global things that end up in avctx as well as possibly dynamic changes during decoding
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<Nemo_pi> can i borrows someones code for an autoloading flv or mp4 vidoes to stream to twitch?
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<Nemo_pi> none of my autoloaders works nor being stable
<ManDay> only 11 more tickets and we get #11111 as ticket number :)
<Nemo_pi> i only can run 1 file for hours
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<Nemo_pi> :) if i can get some help with it i would be happy
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<vckt> hi
<vckt> does ffmpeg expose an API to use from other C programs? or is it easier to just build commands and pass them to the cli
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<JEEB> yea the libav* and libsw* libraries are what the cli tool utilizes
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<Nemo_pi> :) Do you have build and autoloader so that ffmpeg can load videos out of its (designed) folders?
<ManDay> Nemo_pi: Can you rephase your question?
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<Nemo_pi> Do you have a working autoloader for ffmpeg
<ManDay> what's an autoloader?
<Nemo_pi> mine keeps breaking, not working, can't find the problem
<Nemo_pi> ManDay: a script who adds all vidoes in a playlist.txt and use it to play videos in a que
<ManDay> ffmpeg is not a video player
<ManDay> use something like mpv if you want to play videos
<Nemo_pi> ManDay: i - ofcourse - mean to use ffmpeg to stream it to platforms
<Nemo_pi> using ffmpeg - with a script who autoloads the videos - to stream it into the void named twitch
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<Nemo_pi> I have multiple .bash scripts but they all break when its changing video
<ManDay> line 23 needs a ==, not a =
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<ManDay> but ask #bash for help writing your script. this channel is about using ffmpeg (cli, api, dev, etc.)
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<Nemo_pi> I can ask .bash, but i use ffmpeg and i encounter problems with ffmpeg never the less which script i use
<ManDay> if you have error output from ffmpeg paste it and we can look at it
<ManDay> where do you get the idea from that you can just pass a TXT file as -i to ffmpeg though
<Nemo_pi> concat
<Nemo_pi> plus many people online are posting about the fact that they made autoloaders for ffmpeg
<ManDay> well to answer your question i don't have an "autoloader" i could give you, but if you want to solve a concrete error go ahead and show us
<Nemo_pi> Also i need to learn how to fix keyframe interval issues in the commandline which i use for ffmpeg
<Nemo_pi> currently i run things as: ffmpeg -re -stream_loop -1 -i [location-of-file] -c copy -f flv rtmp:[twitchlink)
<Nemo_pi> do i need to run it with -g 60 or -g 30?
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<Nemo_pi> (ps: does -reconnect 1 -reconnect_at_eof 1 -reconnect_streamed 1 work? or is that too much for ffmpeg?
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<Nemo_pi> Non-monotonous DTS in output stream 0:0; previous: 19900, current: 19843; changing to 19900. This may result in incorrect timestamps in the output
<Nemo_pi> when i use the Autoloader.bash
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<Nemo_pi> ManDay: do you have an working example where you let ffmpeg to use all the files in the folder to be streamed to twitch?
<Nemo_pi> a working concat with a .txt or some voodoo
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<Nemo_pi> is there a way to get > ffmpeg -re -stream_loop -1 -f concat -safe 0 -i playlist.txt -c copy -f flv [link] < working
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<Nemo_pi> somehow it doesnt wanna pick-up the playlist.txt
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<BtbN> You can't concat arbitrary files like that
<BtbN> they need to be perfectly compatible. It's not a playlist
<Nemo_pi> then tell me, learn me, explain to me how i can use ffmpeg to play all mp4s or flvs from a folder
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<Nemo_pi> like a jukenox
<BtbN> I don't think that's something ffmpeg can do just like that
<BtbN> sounds more like you're looking for a video/audio player
<Nemo_pi> video jukebox for twitch
<BtbN> Easiest way would be to just loop over all files with a shell loop, and invoke a fresh ffmpeg instance for each
<BtbN> random files are just way too messy, they can change resolution, framerate, ...
<Nemo_pi> i thought -c copy fixed that
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<BtbN> flv does not support resolution/fps changes iirc
<BtbN> so I don't see how -c copy would fix anything
<BtbN> with -c copy even the codec could change at random, which is even worse
<Nemo_pi> a fresh ffmpeg means shutdown the stream, reload new file, restart stream?
<BtbN> That's up to your service provider to handle
<BtbN> most don't care about a drop for a split second
<Nemo_pi> so concat is not the option
<BtbN> But if you use -c copy, you will also have to make sure all your input files are compatible with flv and the streaming provider
<Nemo_pi> yes :)
<Nemo_pi> i can understand that part
<Nemo_pi> all files single work, but maybe you are right about chaining them can break things
<BtbN> Just use OBS, and have it capture a video player?
<Nemo_pi> :) all i want is a mp4/flv player which streams to twitch
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<BtbN> You're probably gonna have to write one first then
<Nemo_pi> BtbN: i run it from a Raspberry pi 3+
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<BtbN> you could probably cook up some script that builds an ffmpeg invocation that uses the concat filter on however many files it finds, and then re-encodes and scales them all to the same
<Nemo_pi> i tried many, none works well
<Nemo_pi> thats why i came here
<Nemo_pi> and here sended me to the bash guys
<Nemo_pi> and now i am back
<BtbN> well, you'll need to write it, since it's your usecase
<Nemo_pi> is there a way to use mpv for the source?
<Nemo_pi> so that mpv can handle the file swaps,
<BtbN> Might as well just use OBS then
<BtbN> Or just pre-encode the whole stream into one file elsewhere
<Nemo_pi> OBS doesnt run on Pi 3+
<Nemo_pi> on my game pc i can do that, but i dont wanna have it 24/7
<BtbN> A Pi3 is horrendously underpowered for streaming anyway
<Nemo_pi> it handles well 1 file at a time
<Nemo_pi> hehehee
<Nemo_pi> Other question
<BtbN> Well, for what you plan, you either need to constantly re-start the stream, which you don't want. Or need to re-encode, which I don't see a Pi3 doing in real time.
<Nemo_pi> how to pre-code all files from 1 folder into 1.mp4 or 1.flv
<Nemo_pi> i know ffmpeg goes 1 to the other
<Nemo_pi> but can it consume all and parsh (is that a word) into 1?
<Curid> you could reencode them all to the same format before concating
<Nemo_pi> I dont mind to restart every hour :) if it swaps files haha
<BtbN> Just do a shell loop over all files then and do a simple -c copy to flv
<BtbN> assuming all your files are compatible with that
<Nemo_pi> link sounds as voodoo
<Curid> what if you have one instance listening for raw frames on a pipe and loop that feeds the pipe
<BtbN> Curid: it's a Pi3
<Nemo_pi> Curid: you mean mvp runs the files and the output would be piped to ffmpeg?
<BtbN> it simply does not have the horsepower to de/encode
<Nemo_pi> not sure
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<Nemo_pi> I really need to eat and take some rest, this subject gives me headache for weeks
<BtbN> The wiki explains how to concat files that aren't perfectly compatible
<BtbN> not sure what else to tell you
<BtbN> Every option has been explained at this point
<Curid> just preprocess the files to make them compatible
<Curid> doesn't have to be done on the rpi
<BtbN> If you want to pipe them in as raw frames, you still need to encode
<Nemo_pi> well
<Nemo_pi> in theory i can push and hdmi dummi in the pi
<Nemo_pi> so it think that it has got a hdmi port
<Nemo_pi> and with that i can run mpv? and say fine use hdmi_1 as source and pumping that unto twitch?
<Nemo_pi> if i reaaaallly need it i can run it on an 3340 lattitude
<Curid> the hdmi port is output only afaik
<Nemo_pi> but i wanted it to run it on a pi because power x heat x i trust my pi more than my laptop psu
<Nemo_pi> Curid: as i know it needs a screen to be captured from
<Curid> you can run it on the pi after reencoding everything
<Nemo_pi> true
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<BtbN> Again, there is no way a Pi3 has the power to encode anything. So I doubt such plans would work out.
<BtbN> Easiest would really be to pre-process to one full file elsewhere.
<Curid> Sure it does, just wait a few weeks
<furq> a pi 3 can do 1080p30 h264 realtime
<furq> it will just look like garbage because it's off the hardware encoder
<Nemo_pi> i never got it caught into 1080p30, i am happy with 480p30
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<Nemo_pi> if i can make all the videos into 1 huge 1hour session, i would be happy
<Curid> you can rent a gpu for 10 minutes
<Nemo_pi> i have got 1x 3340 lattitude, 1x 3350 and a pc
<Nemo_pi> an ipad :P
<Nemo_pi> some phones
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<Nemo_pi> my dream was to make a headless mediaplayer out of ffmpeg
<Nemo_pi> because gpt told me that i can use scrips
<Curid> you technically can, but you need to reencode
<BtbN> I linked you to the wiki that explains how to concat videos that are not fully compatible
<BtbN> throw in a scale and fps filter to normalize those as well
<Nemo_pi> BtbN: that whole wiki is voodoo for me
<BtbN> then ffmpeg is not the tool for you I'm afraid
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<Nemo_pi> ffmpeg -f concat -safe 0 -i mylist.txt -c copy output.mp4
<Nemo_pi> if that can be a real thing, why not the streaming
<BtbN> again, that only works if the files are 100% compatible
<BtbN> same codec, exact same codec parameters.
<BtbN> And even then it's far from seamless, and only works reliably if the timesamps align
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<Curid> Nemo_pi: you can play the videos with mpv and connect the hdmi output to a capture card
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<Nemo_pi> well
<Nemo_pi> hdmi to rca and rca into a capture card
<Nemo_pi> thats how i record my N64 haha
<Curid> the capture card must support h264 though
<Nemo_pi> hm
<Nemo_pi> there is no software that can say he
<Nemo_pi> use hdmi-1 as scource?
<Nemo_pi> like a screencap....
<Curid> the capture card has a h264 encoding chip
<Nemo_pi> saves encoding yes
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<Curid> the rpi3 has both hardware encode and decode support shouldn't this command work? https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/Concatenate#Instructions2
<Nemo_pi> let me check
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<Nemo_pi> ffmpeg -i input1.mp4 -i input2.webm -i input3.mov \
<Nemo_pi> -filter_complex "[0:v:0][0:a:0][1:v:0][1:a:0][2:v:0][2:a:0]concat=n=3:v=1:a=1[outv][outa]" \
<Nemo_pi> -map "[outv]" -map "[outa]" output.mkv
<Nemo_pi> you mean that?
<Curid> yes
<Nemo_pi> that only does 3 sourses right?
<Nemo_pi> 3 into 1
<Curid> yeah by default
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<Curid> try with 3 first
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<Nemo_pi> it only works if the code is been used in the same cd right?
<Nemo_pi> cd /folder?
<Curid> you can specify full paths to the videos
<snoriman> hey! I've been trying to get pw-record (pipewire) to work but I keep getting buffer underrun issues and I thought maybe I can record audio using ffmpeg. I was reading the wiki about alsa where it's documented that you should use `arecord -l` to get the device id; though the device from which I want to capture is not listed (hdmi output). When I use `wpctl status` I do see my device listed. Why is
<snoriman> that?
<Nemo_pi> Curid: i used tab for it
<Nemo_pi> was smart enough to start at #3 :P
<Nemo_pi> long strings and so
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<another|> snoriman: you can record using the pulse API
<snoriman> another|: ah thanks, how can I do that? ... or do you mean like writing a C app?
<snoriman> another|: ah like that, thanks; do you know if that works with pipewire-pulse ?
<another|> since pw implement a pulse server, it should
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<snoriman> ok, let's see
<snoriman> yay that works!
<snoriman> interestingly `pw-record` does not work flawlessly
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