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<remiliascarlet> Mozilla going onto the AI hype train.
<remiliascarlet> So my point still stands, the only 2 corporations who refrain from the AI hype are OpenBSD and NetBSD. And they're not even corporations.
<remiliascarlet> Well, haven't heard anything about AI from Nintendo neither, which is a corporation.
<remiliascarlet> SiFuh might not like that, but I guess most of the gaming industry doesn't seem to be on the AI bandwagon (yet).
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<SiFuh> AI doesn't exist. It is just a glorified search engine and plageriaser
<lavaball> ha! just like your insults.
<SiFuh> Says the guy who commonly repeats two words thinking he is the bomb.
<lavaball> what did i tell you you should do when you don't get the joke?
<SiFuh> You don't know how to make jokes.
<SiFuh> You just suffer from delusional disorder.
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<remiliascarlet> SiFuh: "AI doesn't exist. It is just a glorified search engine and plageriaser" The term "AI" has been used in gaming since the 1950s to basically mean "the opponent that's controlled automatically by the computer, instead of the player". Alternative terms are "NPC" and "CPU" in the west or "CP" in Asia.
<remiliascarlet> zorz^: It's so sad that Steve Jobs died of sagma.
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<farkuhar> lavaball: SiFuh says you might be able to help confirm whether my conclusions about sndio environment variables also apply in the OpenBSD setting. Here's an initial draft of my results in Linux: https://git.sdf.org/jmq/Documentation/src/branch/master/crux-wiki/ff-sndio-vars.md
<lavaball> what?
<lavaball> i'm not even sure what sndio is.
<lavaball> sorry, no idea about any of this. i record in gentoo. pipewire. that's all i know.
<lavaball> and by know i mean that what i have installed and it works.
<farkuhar> lavaball: you run OpenBSD, don't you? sndiod is the default sound server installed in base.
<lavaball> okay.
<lavaball> it works.
<SiFuh> farkuhar: After you left lavaball and I spoke about it and he said he doesn't know.
<SiFuh> Maybe remiliascarlet may know?
<lavaball> i'm not even sure what the problem is.
<lavaball> i just connected the microphone and the speakers to the audio output/input on the mainboard.
<lavaball> worked.
<lavaball> that's it.
<lavaball> in /etc/rc sndiod_flags=
<lavaball> rc.conf
<lavaball> rather tell me when they have compiled xfce4-panel for the current current release.
<lavaball> i'm sitting here without one.
<farkuhar> lavaball: my desired configuration is to divide playback and capture between two physical cards, not to rely on a single (full-duplex) soundcard. I outline two different use-cases in the Markdown document above.
<lavaball> as if i read that.
<lavaball> why would you record on openbsd? do you only have one box?
<lavaball> well, i'm sure you know what you are doing.
<lavaball> best of luck and all that.
<farkuhar> On Linux the traditional way to emulate a full-duplex soundcard is with ~/.asoundrc (serpente might know something about that). But nowadays most users just adopt the mainstream solutions: pulseaudio or pipewire.
<lavaball> i gotta say pipewire works greatly for me.
<lavaball> it's way faster than pulse. that's all i know.
<farkuhar> i gotta say pipewire already has enough testers on Linux. I'm more interested in working out the bugs in a less-mainstream solution (the configuration that SiFuh compares with toilet paper in a Muslim country).
<lavaball> if you want a project. bring 7.1 sound to wine. it only has 5.1, so i still need to use windows. it upsets me greatly.
<farkuhar> if I take a break from this soundcard project, I might switch my focus to stenur's proposal for a tighter alignment between prt-get and pkgmk: https://git.crux.nu/ports/core/issues/4
<farkuhar> stenur seems to be referring to deep42thought's use of post-sync hooks (every `ports -u` operation would be followed by applying patches from a local overlay), or therealfun's Flyspray issue "flexible footprint check". Whichever discussion he's citing, we probably ought to update https://crux.nu/Wiki/PkgutilsIdeas to reflect the history (now that Flyspray is no longer visible).
<remiliascarlet> lavaball: I heard before Steve Jobs died, he gave his employees sagma.
<lavaball> remiliascarlet, sagma?
<remiliascarlet> lavaball: SAGMA ASS! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
<lavaball> you know i would.
<lavaball> hahahahaha
<lavaball> didn't expect that, did you?
<lavaball> seriously though, i licked a few pretty girls' asses. can recommend.
<farkuhar> The loss of Flyspray means that we can no longer directly cite Tim's follow-up to FS#1576 (flexible footprint check), we have to rely on users who quoted him in other venues. Here's Tim pushing back against a huge portdb with dozens of near-dup ports: "We don't need to reproduce Archs AUR where people add things like that... I am very much pro 'fluid Pkgfiles' which can suit all use-cases."
<remiliascarlet> lavaball: I based this joke off of this: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ETbMj3cE7YA and https://yewtu.be/watch?v=IBA5hPbOw5I
<farkuhar> stenur's proposal would also offset the "ton of dups" phenomenon, but by keeping the changes in people's private overlays, this knowledge on how best to customize an official port would diffuse less efficiently among the CRUX userbase.
<lavaball> hahaa, remiliascarlet, showing your work doesn't make the joke better.
<lavaball> haha
<lavaball> seriously, you people ...
<farkuhar> stenur's other proposal https://git.crux.nu/ports/core/issues/3 is less controversial; it will probably be merged without much discussion. But #4 is more interesting and deserves more input from the CRUX community.
<lavaball> you actually doing the coding work?
<lavaball> really impressive.
<lavaball> i mean i'm sure it's all fun and games for you guys, but just like you remi and sifu don't understand jokes or context, i'm having no idea how all that coding stuff works.
<farkuhar> After I pointed out deep42thought's use of post-sync hooks to customize the official ports, ukky took the idea and ran with it. I have no firsthand experience with this practice myself. For my purposes, it's not too much trouble to maintain an actual overlay directory (like what SiFuh and emmett1 did for crux-musl), rather than a collection of patches applied after `ports -u` in the manner stenur is suggesting.
<lavaball> yeah, no idea.
<lavaball> best of luck though.
<farkuhar> stenur's proposal mitigates the "ton of dups" phenomenon by asking the interested users to define in pkgmk.conf the new variable PKGMK_OVERLAY_DIR, which will be populated by directories of the same name as the ports needing customization; each directory would contain Pkgfile.overlay that defines two new shell functions (and might override other shell vars). The portdb will presumably not be sharing these patch collections and will remain dup-free.
<lavaball> now i'm wondering who you are telling all this. like are you guys listening? what's the point of all these details?
<farkuhar> But the reduction of dups will require that users actually embrace stenur's idea, which is a big change compared to the traditional practice of a fully-populated overlay directory. The main advantage of stenur's idea (and deep42thought's before that) is in being able to reuse the existing checksums from the official maintainers.
<lavaball> well, i'm glad you enjoy it.
<farkuhar> lavaball: I'm following the example set by midfavila in #kisslinux the other day. Rant about something regardless of how active the channel is. (midfavila getting used to the quirks of nftables and iputils reminded me of lavaball interacting with pf.)
<lavaball> missed it? i never even been to this kisslinux channel.
<farkuhar> deep42thought's patchset idea differs from what stenur is proposing in #4 in one key respect: stenur applies the overlay patches only during the pkgmk command (or prt-get install), but deep42thought makes immediate modifications to the ports tree with a set of post-sync hooks. By deferring the patches until later, stenur retains the integrity of the official repos, so they are never at risk of corruption by patches that don't apply cleanly.
<farkuhar> for reference, here's the mailing list thread where deep42thought shares his solution: https://lists.crux.nu/archives/list/crux@lists.crux.nu/thread/MKG3AMXFULKWIOXDF557DZCC3R3WWE7J
<lavaball> okay.
<lavaball> well, i'm glad someone is doing the good work keeping trooinx alive.
<farkuhar> I find it interesting that deep42thought kept his innovations restricted to /usr/bin/ports (rather than modifying /usr/bin/pkgmk as stenur proposes in #4). It's almost as if he's being steered by the discussion of dropping the listing and diff functionality from ports(8), keeping only the networking part (a discussion contemporaneous with jw's PkgutilsIdeas wiki).
<ppetrov^> farkuhar, why not post these in #crux? not everyone comes to the psychiatric ward called #crux-social
<lavaball> yeah! our head psych ward patient has spoken!
<farkuhar> ppetrov^: they're free to read the #crux-social logs. I leave it to someone like you to post a link, if you think it's worthy of discussion. Eventually I might collect all my thoughts and post a follow-up on the Gitea instance.
<remiliascarlet> lavaball: If by any chance you'll start an IRC channel on #troonix, at least host your own IRC server, because Libera.Chat has a Code of Conduct (or cock for short), so they will ban you for that.
<remiliascarlet> I'm actually surprised they haven't banned #crux-social and #monero-offtopic yet.
<lavaball> why?
<remiliascarlet> As I said, "because Libera.Chat has a Code of Conduct (or cock for short),".
<lavaball> i just lke pretty landscapes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troon
<remiliascarlet> Anything that has a Code of Conduct is an authoritarian, woke dumpster fire.
<lavaball> oh, right. i forgot you don't understand jokes.
<lavaball> never mind.
<remiliascarlet> I only don't understand bad jokes.
<remiliascarlet> I make jokes here very often.
<lavaball> that's not how that works either. a joke isn't bad because you don't understand it.
<lavaball> like your sagma ass bit?
<lavaball> well, don't quit your day job.
<remiliascarlet> This joke is pretty good too: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=gJLrllcK-qI
<lavaball> i would have to allow 12 000 scripts to watch that.
<lavaball> i say no.
<lavaball> yt-dlp.
<lavaball> the joke isn't good. it's just dumb. but since it goes on it's dumb good. basically dad jokes.
<lavaball> not all the way though. it loses its charm quickly. the ending is shit.
<remiliascarlet> The funny bit about the ending is that Falco got so delighted about the death of his leader that his HP got restored a bit.
<lavaball> no.
<lavaball> but i'm glad you like it.
<SiFuh> farkuhar: HAHAHA
<remiliascarlet> lavaball: In SiFuh's time, a man would go out for a woman. In your time, a man can't figure out what a woman is.
<SiFuh> ppetrov^: HAHAHAHA
<lavaball> remiliascarlet, also a no. i mean it's accurate, but not really funny.
<remiliascarlet> It's funny exactly because it's accurate. For the same reason, it's also sad.
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: HAHAHAHA
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: I don't think delusionalballs know what is funny or a joke to be honest
<SiFuh> Russian and Khazak jokes are funnier than the shit delusionalballs thinks is funny
<remiliascarlet> Veganballs.
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: Oh, today, I met with many of the off-roaders to discuss diet. Because they wanted to know why I can lift such heavy weight and throw it.
<SiFuh> It was a good discussion. I told them. No sugar, no fast food, limit your vegetables and hammer into the meat and eggs. Raw eggs are fine too.
<lavaball> remiliascarlet, needs work. you could make something funny out of it, but as is it doesn't work.
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: I have a joke! "lavaball" HAHAHAHAHAHA
<remiliascarlet> lavaball: Hot take: Javascript sucks.
<SiFuh> i was watching that Adama Sandler - I Love You (2024) stand-up comedy. I came to realises. These Jews are fucking filthy.
<SiFuh> Adam*
<SiFuh> Only good movie I ever liked with Adam Sandler was "The Longest Yard" which was a rip off of a British movie which was just as good.
<lavaball> remiliascarlet, i would't know.
<lavaball> i believe you though.
<SiFuh> lavaball: If you haven't seen it, I recommend it. "The Longest Yard" Adam Sandler version. "Mean Machine" The original British version with Jason Stathom.
<remiliascarlet> lavaball: Javascript has killed 6 million Germans.
<SiFuh> Anyone who reads history and newspapers knows that it is worse than that.
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: Any info on farkuhar's problem that you can advise about?
<remiliascarlet> Which problem exactly?
<SiFuh> I was looking for some hardware so I can simulate his problem
<remiliascarlet> Which problem exactly?
<SiFuh> He wants to use speakers with sndiod and microphone with sndiod but with a different card for both at the same time.
<SiFuh> On a linux system
<remiliascarlet> Ah, I don't know then.
<SiFuh> For me also because I only have OpenBSD GUI and I disconnect physically the camera and microphone.
<lavaball> remiliascarlet, now you are just being weird.
<SiFuh> lavaball's delusional disorder has kicked in again.
<remiliascarlet> How the fuck is not knowing how to do what farkuhar wants to accomplish considered to just being weird?
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: He needs a new target so he has flipped to you
<ppetrov^> farkuhar, yes anyone can rea dthe logs, but usually people don't. And what you posted is pretty much CRUX-specific, so better do it in #crux if you want more people to read it. Just saying.
<SiFuh> I wanted to use the same audio with sndiod between all machines through streams. OpenBSD told me it can't be done. Sad...
<lavaball> remiliascarlet, sweetheart, you are killing me here. i was talking about your 6 million germans thing. you know the line where you mentioned me so it gets highlighted here. you could use your lady brain at least a little bit when talking to me.
<SiFuh> ppetrov^: CRUX is here too bro
<SiFuh> ppetrov^: But better to ask in #openbsd rather than #crux.
<ppetrov^> you guys discuss anything but CRIX here, mainly who's a faggot and whos a bigger faggot
<SiFuh> ppetrov^: HAHAH
<ppetrov^> :P
<SiFuh> We discuss OpenBSD and CRUX stuff here.
<ppetrov^> it has a certain morbid charm to it
<ppetrov^> true
<SiFuh> And you get the benefit of being zorzed by zorz too ppetrov^. You can't find that in another channel
<SiFuh> ppetrov^: It is.. :-P
<remiliascarlet> ppetrov^: That's just SiFuh and lavaball calling each other gay and/or pedo.
<ppetrov^> so it's a verb now? "to zorze"
<ppetrov^> remiliascarlet, yes, it's a very mature conversation
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: I don't call him gay. I call him a paedophile because he hunts and stalks minors
<remiliascarlet> ppetrov^: Yes, we have "to zorz" and "to lavaball".
<ppetrov^> amazing
<SiFuh> lavaball thinks with his dick.
<remiliascarlet> To zorz = to tell someone stuff they already know.
<ppetrov^> and the other?
<remiliascarlet> To lavaball = to tell others what to do at random.
<ppetrov^> mhm
<SiFuh> He's just creepy
<lavaball> i resend that. i never called sifu a pedo.
<SiFuh> I was discussing with another memeber to disolve the channel just to get rid of his sleezy and creepy stalking shit.
<remiliascarlet> lavaball: He calls you a pedo. You call him gay.
<lavaball> which reminds me, remi, it's late again. shouldn't you go to bed?
<SiFuh> And there it is
<remiliascarlet> ppetrov^: See, that's what "to lavaball" is.
<SiFuh> Who died and made you her mother?
<ppetrov^> remiliascarlet, hilarious
<SiFuh> Without lavaball and his immorality this channel would probably become sane.
<SiFuh> And we'd all tease zorz :-)
<lavaball> my new t-shirt is almost done! https://imgur.com/bildschirmfoto-3WhiEmG
<lavaball> anyway, i explained the getting enough sleep thing already. you are in your thirties. it's all down hill from here.
<ppetrov^> SiFuh, does "all down hill from there" mean that it's gonna get worse or that it's gonna get easy?
<SiFuh> farkuhar: Wife will try to get her hands on an old machine, she can't promise. But it is a start.
<SiFuh> ppetrov^: It's true
<ppetrov^> "it's true" which one?
<SiFuh> The down hill part
<ppetrov^> and which one does it mean
<SiFuh> It means, once they start digging their grave, I am going smack them over the head with a shovel
<remiliascarlet> lavaball: How much sleep one needs differs from person to person. If you life man made metal for no reason all day long, you'll need 12 hours or more of sleep. But if you have a more sedenatary lifestyle, then 4 to 6 hours of sleep is enough.
<ppetrov^> mhm
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: 7 hours for adults
<SiFuh> 12 to 14 is for kids
<remiliascarlet> Again, also depends on your lifestyle.
<SiFuh> Most adults don't burn energy like kids. Ohhhh the good old days.
<SiFuh> I get about 5 hours in the jungle. But 14 hours at home, myself
<SiFuh> My tow truck driver would sleep 1 hour a night. He'd sleep so deep you could drive a freight train through his bed room and he'd not wake. I am a light (lite) sleeper. So you fart, you come near me, you move, a cat fights outside. I will lose sleep.
<SiFuh> My wife loves to constantly test me. I love the look on her face when she comes near and I open my eyes. It scares the shit out of her.
<SiFuh> When I drove a taxi. We were told if you sleep keep the window closed. Safety from robbers and murderers. I always slept with the window open. If someone put their head in my window, I'd wake up even if I was in a deep snoring sleep.
<SiFuh> The sound changes and my ears work well. Today I went to watch Beetlejuice in the cinema. They were laughing when they saw me with earmuffs off (ear protection from noise). Many complained it was so loud. I wasn't laughing. And neither were they anymore.
<SiFuh> off/on
<SiFuh> I sleep like Kyle XY. I need white noise to drown out the sounds around me. I never understood Daredevil sleeping in water. That amplifies the sound.
<SiFuh> https://s3.amazonaws.com/i.snag.gy/1CTogn.jpg <-- this plays when I sleep
<lavaball> ooh, what's that inerface?
<lavaball> and i listen to german he-man tapes.
<lavaball> with shutdown -p +30
<SiFuh> cmus
<SiFuh> I use it on the TV box to play country music 24/7
<SiFuh> And some radio streams
<SiFuh> When the wife's dog is far away from the house, she knows how to get home because she remembers the music. She doesn't even sniff her way home. She perks up her ears and zooms in.
<lavaball> haha.
<lavaball> country music. yeah, figures.
<SiFuh> We played it her to her when se was a puppy. So she wouldn't feel alone.
<SiFuh> If I rock KC and the Sunshine Band. She doesn't know what that is and is always looking curiously. But if I play Cody Jinks, she comes bounding home.
<remiliascarlet> The best remedy against any illness is getting well again.
<SiFuh> Hahaha
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: Doctors have never cured a single person in history. A well kept secret is that your body heals yourself.
<remiliascarlet> I know.
<SiFuh> Am I zorzing you?
<remiliascarlet> Pretty much.
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: Today's class went well. I was discussing the benefits of meat as a majority in your food. They were all very attentive and listening with eyes wide open.
<remiliascarlet> The only time I go to a doctor is to do a blood test, because all my friends in the west are still being paranoid about red meat.
<remiliascarlet> But no matter how many times I prove them wrong, they still won't believe me.
<SiFuh> I only go for diagnosis. Have been that wait for 20 years.
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: My friends wife has "burping apendecitus" it took over 15 years for a doctor to figure it out.
<SiFuh> She'd vomit every morning. Always had fever. But they just sold her drugs to make her think she was better. Then last month a doctor (New one) said "I think your apendix is the issue" So they lopped it out. Now she is fine.
<remiliascarlet> Asian friends have more of a "if it works for you, then so be it" kind of attitude.
<remiliascarlet> But western friends are absolutely terrified about me only eating meat. Meanwhile, they all stuff themselves full with ultra processed, sugary, artificial garbage, and nobody is worried about each other.
<SiFuh> Funniest scene ever. I went to doctor and they told me to go to the pharmacy. The pharmacy gave me a pile of paracetamol. I said "What the heck is this?" They said "Paracetamol" I said "I will not take that" She laughed and said very loudly "Foreigner doesn't want to take foreign medicine" Everyone in the waiting room laughed. I sternly walked back to the doctor and grabbed my file. Said "I need to
<SiFuh> borrow this" Shoved the file in front of the face of the pharmacist and said in Thai very loudly "Allergic to paracetamol!" And pointed to the big red writing. The entire room was silent.
<SiFuh> Westerners and Malays don't actually eat food. They eat a conglomeration os synthetic chemicals with flavour based off of HEK-293.
<remiliascarlet> Most of them is walking around with diabetes and cancers (as confirmed by Xray pictures), I healed myself from diabetes. Yet I'm the one risking my life?
<SiFuh> You had diabetes?
<remiliascarlet> If you include pre-diabetic, then yes.
<remiliascarlet> Anyone who's fat gets diabetes.
<remiliascarlet> And I reversed that.
<SiFuh> My wife was seconds away from it. I stepped in and with a lot of force. Changed her diet. Even forced her friends and colleagues to watch what she eats. I have a diet police force :-)
<SiFuh> She is now closer to my level now. She has noticed that sugar makes her sick now. So she avoids it about 80% of the time.
<remiliascarlet> I actually had something with sugar in it just to see how I would react to it. I was feeling sick for a whole week, it's unbelievable.
<SiFuh> Today she ate sugar at the cinema. But that is because she can splurge sometimes. But now she is complaining she has a headache.. Well duhhhh
<SiFuh> Yeah is should be banned because everything has it now. It is the most addictive chemical on the planet
<remiliascarlet> "It is the most addictive chemical on the planet" This alone is exactly the reason why it will never be banned.
<SiFuh> Fetanyl is most probably more though
<SiFuh> I changed the flora and fauna in her intestines. Now she craves meat and vegetables.
<remiliascarlet> There's so much profit to be made out of it, banning sugar alone would collapse all sorts of industries.
<SiFuh> Sugar is fine. But today everyone overdoses on it. The refind version.
<SiFuh> I have her using an amino acid in her coffee now. Glycine.
<remiliascarlet> Your body can make the right amount of glucose on its own. Adding more sugar to your body will get toxic real quick.
<SiFuh> She is still moody, but she does a shit load more per day than if she was on sugar
<SiFuh> Same with water and every other thing. Overdose on anything can kill you
<remiliascarlet> I put nothing in my coffee, just drink it as-is.
<SiFuh> I'd like to get her on nicotine but that is another story
<SiFuh> No more than 2mg a day
<remiliascarlet> I drink it as black as a nigger.
<SiFuh> Did you try with egg yet?
<remiliascarlet> I did once, and I even mentioned it months ago.
<SiFuh> Seperate the white from the yellow. Blend it. Pour it into your coffee
<remiliascarlet> But then you showed me a video on how to do it, and realized what I did wrong.
<SiFuh> The white can use for other things.
<remiliascarlet> Because I put a whole egg in it.
<SiFuh> I put the entire egg in actually
<SiFuh> But for a good coffee put the yolk in only blended
<remiliascarlet> I'm not as tolerant to egg whites as you are. Some people can eat it fine, but I can only eat the yolk.
<SiFuh> Use the whites for other things then
<remiliascarlet> I throw it out, since I have no usecase for it.
<SiFuh> Makes a good thickener if you want to baste? Hmm baist? Not sure the spelling. But baste meat with it. Brush it on when you bake it in the oven
<SiFuh> Some salt and paint it on the meat.
<SiFuh> Salt is very important
<SiFuh> made from the two most toxic chemicals that humans will die from but together is essential
<remiliascarlet> There is actually a reason why some people can't tolerate the egg whites, but everyone can tolerate the egg yolks just fine. The yolk is the actual animal itself, whereas the egg white is there to protect it.
<SiFuh> bast <--
<SiFuh> Not true
<SiFuh> I know people who can't eat any part of an egg
<SiFuh> But they are sissies and should fix their bodies.
<SiFuh> If you bake bread you can even use the egg white in the flour
<SiFuh> Does your cat eat egg whites?
<remiliascarlet> I listened to an interview once of someone who thought he was allergic to eggs, but he experimented by separating the yolks from the whites, cooked both of them, and turned out he was only allergic to the whites, but not to the yolks.
<SiFuh> Any excess or rotten eggs is given to the wife's dog. She avoids it untill all the meat is gone. Then laps it up
<remiliascarlet> My cat eats the yolks only. I gave him a whole egg a few times before, but every time he licks the whites, he reacts to it badly (like if he gets paralyzed for a second), but the yolks he can lick up fine.
<SiFuh> Everyone is surpised that a street mutt looks so healthy
<SiFuh> https://i.snipboard.io/k2Xdno.jpg <-- you maybe saw it before but her body and fur looks so healthy now.
<SiFuh> HAHAHAHAHA
<remiliascarlet> Wow, very shiny!
<SiFuh> My friends cat will not eat anything unless it was in a crystal bowl
<SiFuh> And if even one ant was in it. She'd not touch it.
<remiliascarlet> Kind of similar to my cat, but with water.
<SiFuh> She's sulking in the picture. She won't let the wife touch her or come near her. She is sitting behind me because for her I am the safe space. She was left alone at the groomer for 45 minutes
<SiFuh> The groomers can't believe "This is a street mutt?"
<remiliascarlet> Normally, cats prefer fountains over water in bowls. My cat won't drink from fountains at all, because he just doesn't understand it. He will only drink from the bowl on my desk.
<remiliascarlet> He won't even drink from bowls on the floor, only the one and only bowl literally on my desk.
<SiFuh> Her dog was similar. Because she was a street dog. Bowls of water were just not normal. She'd prefer to lick it off the ground. She has been trained now that there are two bowls. Fresh water every morning. No fluoride. And now she prefers it.
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: HAHAHA fucking cats. So picky
<SiFuh> Her transformation is so good. Just need to train the wife to stop mollycoddlying her
<SiFuh> mollycoddling*
<SiFuh> Which reminds me, I need to take her to pee. Maybe puff a cigar while I wait
<SiFuh> Both the father and mother were angry that we brought her home. I told her wait and watch. Now the mother and the father love her.
<SiFuh> Father moreso
<SiFuh> I have banned the cousins (Female) and the nieces from her. They destroy all our training.
<SiFuh> But the nephew and the father are allowed because they are consistent like me. So the dog knows how to behave around use
<SiFuh> us*
<SiFuh> This is important when teaching rules. You want to live with us. These are the rules. If not, gate is open and country music is off. Good luck out there.
<SiFuh> That kennel she bought. I thought will never work. But she knows it is her home and she always sleeps inside. Even though the door is open. Only at night though. In the day time she sleeps in the driveway. Or under the shade of a chair.
<SiFuh> Wife is like "I didn't waste my money. I am so happy"
<SiFuh> I have two simple rules. If the dog dies by its own accord, then it failed. If the dog leaves and never comes back, then good on her. "No crying wife!"
<lavaball> remi, since you are still up. zombies ate my neighbors?
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: Took her to pee and she didn't do anything. Spent some time training her that biting is acceptable. She the pretends to limp like her left foot is hurt. What the fuck? She didn't do anything just lay down and wished to be pet. Then after some more petting her paw magically healed. I think she has been around Chinese too long. She is learning to lie and decieve.
<SiFuh> is/isn't
<SiFuh> the/then
<remiliascarlet> lavaball: Whether I'm still up or not is none of your problems, muppet. Maybe the zombies eating your neighbors part would be much more of your worries.
<lavaball> hahahaha
<remiliascarlet> You tell me you're not a woke leftist, yet you act like one.
<lavaball> you trying to be cool is like a sheep walking on its hind legs.
<lavaball> hahaha
<lavaball> fuck me.
<lavaball> hahaha
<lavaball> someone's good fucking lord.
<lavaball> maybe you should stick to pre prepared insults like sifuh does.
<lavaball> oh wait wait wait wait!
<remiliascarlet> Nah, making up insults on the spot is a lot more entertaining.
<SiFuh> lavaball you suffer from delusional disorder
<lavaball> you didn't realize that zombies ate my neighbors is a sfamicom game?
<lavaball> remiliascarlet, then they have to be insluting or at least make sense.
<SiFuh> I'm anti vax but I fall for the vegan shit...... WTF dude?
<lavaball> but let me get to the bottom of the zombies thing first.
<lavaball> so, did you know it was a snes game?
<SiFuh> insluting hahahahaha
<lavaball> shouldn't you listen to your rain forest noises?
<SiFuh> Soon
<SiFuh> I was watching M*A*S*H
<lavaball> remiliascarlet, did you know that zombies ate my neighbors is a snes/super famicom game?
<SiFuh> lavaball: Katana time!
<SiFuh> At least Tim Pool has a Katana on display.
<SiFuh> Oh did you hear he is in trouble now
<remiliascarlet> lavaball: No.
<lavaball> so what did yuo think i meant when i asked about the zombies eating my neighbors?
<lavaball> and remember, this is for science.
<SiFuh> Alex Jones was hungry?
<remiliascarlet> Just some random nonsense, like usual.
<lavaball> yet you said i should be worried about that instead.
<SiFuh> Worried about what?
<SiFuh> Alex Jones?
<lavaball> watchnig you two is like observing monkeys trying to figure out how to use tools.
<remiliascarlet> Well yeah, when you got zombies eating your neighbors, it's a matter of time before they move on next door.
<SiFuh> Funny because I pulled out lock breaker today. Then the mechanic runs to his shop to get a rattle gun. By the time he returns with it, I was done.
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: katana!
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: I reversed into the driveway. Wife says "Why are you reversing?" I said "I need the boot (Trunk) near the door" then I opened the boot. She then asks "Why did you open the boot?" I walked over and pulled my tool box out. She says "Oh I forgot"
<SiFuh> My tool box is like 60 KG. So I prefer not to walk so far with it.
<remiliascarlet> My toolbox is much simpler. It got all the stuff needed to repair electronics, but nowhere near 60 KG.
<SiFuh> My wife's mind is like on another planet
<SiFuh> Yeah well, I keep that shit at home. It won't fit
<SiFuh> I carry the gear to fix anything from a flat tyre to replacing a coil spring and suspension
<remiliascarlet> Not really useful to keep a flat tyre toolkit at home.
<SiFuh> My Australian tool box is much lighter but it isn't equiped for off-road repairs
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: Correct. I can fix a side wall puncture which is the worst of the worst.
<SiFuh> Last jungle trip, I was constantly taking out my tools to fix other peoples cars even though there were two mechanics on scene. I had a complete kit they did not.
<SiFuh> And I was the only one with a high-lift jack! That is essential for off road use.
<SiFuh> Most dangerous tool you can ever use. Even I won't dare to use it unless neccessary
<SiFuh> Fortunately for them. I fixed mine. So it worked well. They used like 8 times
<SiFuh> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dFpxDdcZqg <-- In case you don't know
<SiFuh> If you use it wrong. 2 tonnes of pressure can kill you.
<SiFuh> My wife took a video where I explained everything and she forgot to hit record. Hahahaha
<SiFuh> I let the kids use it. Wife asks why I don't and I said. "That is a lethal weapon. I have used it a few times but I don't want nothing to do with it."
<SiFuh> The kid who used it ended up slicing his fingures open.
<SiFuh> Fingers
<SiFuh> I have a scissor jack, a bottle jack, a trolley jack and a high-lift jack.
<SiFuh> High-lift jack scares the shit out of me
<SiFuh> When they asked "Who knows how to use it?" I said nothing....
<SiFuh> Hahaahahahahahaaa
<SiFuh> I then told the wife everything the were doing wrong.
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: I am an alpha but I like to sit back and watch the other alphas fuck around.
<remiliascarlet> Weren't you from the gen-x generation?
<ppetrov^> SiFuh, you are an alpha what?
<remiliascarlet> Alpha version of software.
<ppetrov^> makes sense _P
<ppetrov^> :P
<SiFuh> She asks "Why you don't step in? Aren't you suppose to dominate" I said "No way. Let them do the work. If the worst happens I take over" This actually happened once. We almost rolled the truck by following their rules. Then I turned to the wife and said "Fuck them. We do this right" And when I did they were shouting I am doing it wrong. But actually I save my truck by completely ignoring them.
<SiFuh> ppetrov^: Alpha male bro.
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: Funny
<ppetrov^> heh
<ppetrov^> SiFuh, the α-male
<SiFuh> ppetrov^: I don't take shit from anyone dude
<ppetrov^> mhm
<ppetrov^> you know
<SiFuh> I let them and listen to them but when it hits the limit of life or death. Fuck them. I take over.
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<ppetrov^> back when I was studying in the biochemistry department for my MSc, someone had written in the toilet on the toilet paper box: "this paper is like Clint Eastwood: rough, tough and TAKES NO SHIT!"
<SiFuh> You know they can't start a fire without petroleum yet I can do it in the rain without any special shit.
<SiFuh> ppetrov^: HAHAHAHA Kyrgystan toilet paper?
<ppetrov^> like using two stones or sth
<SiFuh> That shit was sand paper
<ppetrov^> SiFuh, cheap Finnish one
<SiFuh> Recycled and rough ppetrov^ ?
<ppetrov^> donät want to know, man
<ppetrov^> *don't
<SiFuh> It wasn't even white?
<SiFuh> Like this?
<SiFuh> I'd use this to wipe my ass and half my ass was torn off.
<ppetrov^> ok, not that bad
<SiFuh> I ended up going back to a bottle of water because I couldn't walk after using it
<SiFuh> I only use dunny paper in the jungle because water is not easily accessible.
<ppetrov^> if your german friend was following, he would defrinitely make a faggot joke there
<ppetrov^> Daaret kagaz
<SiFuh> ppetrov^: There was a house that caught fire. The house was full of lesbians and homosexuals. Only the homosexuals exscape because their shit was packed already.
<ppetrov^> jeez man
<SiFuh> Why do gay men wear ribbed condoms..... better traction in the mud.
<SiFuh> Australian jokes
<ppetrov^> very classy
<SiFuh> Australians don't have class ppetrov^
<SiFuh> It is one thing I dislike about them
<ppetrov^> it was irony
<lavaball> hahaha.
<lavaball> even that illudes you?
<lavaball> well, makes sense.
<SiFuh> A straight man and his gay friend have a deal who can art the loudest. The straight man lets one rip. 'brrrrrrrrrrrrrruph' the gay guy does 'whoosh'
<SiFuh> art/fart
<SiFuh> I know lavaball is laughing
<ppetrov^> SiFuh, is that the joke?
<lavaball> SiFuh, i'm really not.
<SiFuh> Yeah with no sound effects
<ppetrov^> ye, i know similar ones
<SiFuh> That Adam Sandler stand up comedy was basically saying comedy is dead
<SiFuh> The 'woke' has destroyed it
<SiFuh> lavaball: And much to my disgust, mentioned Seinfeld.
<SiFuh> Seinfeld was never funny. He's just a nattering jew
<SiFuh> But so is Adam Sandler
<SiFuh> I remember a joke I told my neighbour. His mother was so angry she came to my home to tell my mother that I am teaching her son dirty jokes. And it wasn't even that bad.
<ppetrov^> i know a really good joke about a bunny and some vaseline, but it should be told face to face
<SiFuh> An alien walks into the bar. Sits down. Grabs a man's beer and goes "blur blur blur blur" into his beer glass. The man snatches it back. Says "Don't do that" a few moments later the alien grabs the glass and slides it near him and goes "blur blur blur blur" again into it. The man snatches it back and says "I told you, DON'T DO THAT". A few minutes later the alien grabs the glass again and goes "blur
<zorz> never watched Seinfeld.... is he joojoo?
<SiFuh> blur blur blur" again. Then man snatches his beer back and says "I told you. Do not do that. Next time, I cut your balls off" The alien says "Not possible" The guys asks "Well how do you go to the toilet?" The alien snatches his glass and goes "blur blur blur blur"
<SiFuh> He is zorz and he is not funny. He just talks shit and people laugh on cue.
<lavaball> seinfeld show is the bomb.
<lavaball> go watch.
<SiFuh> zorz: See what I mean?
<SiFuh> The vegan has spoken
<lavaball> i think zorz remembers your reaction to 'you're both gay" joke.
<lavaball> so he's aware that you lack the mental capacity to evaluate comedy.
<ppetrov^> SiFuh, no ideawhy but i am really laughing at the blur blur blur joke
<SiFuh> ppetrov^: My favorite joke when I was a kid was "Two men walk into a bar. You'd have thought the second mand would have ducked"
<SiFuh> mand/man
<SiFuh> ppetrov^: Well the blur blur blur joke got me in trouble when I was a kid.
<ppetrov^> took me a while
<ppetrov^> goot pun i guess
<ppetrov^> *good
<SiFuh> Apparently too rude for a Christian family.
<ppetrov^> heh
<SiFuh> Most jokes in Australia are racist though. Some are just sick as well. Australian humour is really twisted.
<SiFuh> What has four legs and walks upstairs backwards? A Corgie with an erection
<ppetrov^> heh
<SiFuh> How many animals can you fit on a toilet seat. 1 pussy, a thousand hairs and a wet fish.
<SiFuh> hairs/hares is a pun
<ppetrov^> bleh
<SiFuh> ppetrov^: A turtle had its shell stolen. It calls the police. The police ask the turtle. What had happend. The turtle says 6 snails stole my shell. The police officer asked did you see their faces and the turtle replies. "No it happened too fast"
<lavaball> ...
<SiFuh> A panda walks into a restaurant. Orders food. Eats. Then pulls out an AK-47 and shoots the restaurant with holes. Then leaves. The police arrest him. "Why did you do that?" The panda replies "Read the encyclopedia. We eat, shoots and leaves"
<SiFuh> A mechanical engineer, an electrical engineer and Bill Gates are in a car together. It breaks down. The electical enginer shouts "I am an electrical engineer. I can fix this". He rips out the wiring, installs it back and the care doesn't start. The mechancial engineer says "No worries. I can fix this." Takes the car apart and puts it back together and... it still doesn't start. Bill Gates says "I
<SiFuh> founded microsoft. I am an engineer in both fields. All we need to do is close and open the windows"
<ppetrov^> you're on fire, man
<SiFuh> I have Russian and Khazak jokes but they will make lavaball's jokes super shit.
<ppetrov^> you two have a competition and zorz be the judge
<ppetrov^> make a joke olympics
<SiFuh> ppetrov^: My father use to bring a new joke home every night. Most of the time, no one laughed
<SiFuh> Did it for 11 years.
<SiFuh> ppetrov^: I'd win
<SiFuh> German jokes suck shit like Russian jokes
<SiFuh> ppetrov^: Australians are pretty fast to make jokes though. I remember the day Julia Gillard became prime-minister of Australia. Not even finished the count we knew she would get in. The jokes were flying. 'What does Australia and McDonalds have in common? They are both run by a red haired clown'
<ppetrov^> heh
<SiFuh> I was shocked how fast it came to be
<SiFuh> When we were kids we had stupid jokes.
<SiFuh> Why did the plane crash. The pilot was a tomato.
<SiFuh> Why was the tomato sad? His brother died in a plane crash
<SiFuh> I tell these dumb jokes to the kids and they love them
<SiFuh> It's funny that they are pretty funny.
<SiFuh> But stupid at the same time
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<ppetrov^> the guy was ovewhelmed by your australian humor
<SiFuh> Heh Why did the girl fall off of the swing? She had no arms. Why did the boy fall off the swing? He was hit by a buldozer.
<SiFuh> Yeah ppetrov^ hahaha
<SiFuh> I had a friend that use to make jokes that made no sense but they made us laugh as kids
<SiFuh> I never forget them because as dumb as they were they made us laugh
<SiFuh> What's big, white and falls from the sky. If it hits you die. A refrigerator
<SiFuh> What is green and brown. has eight legs. But if it falls out of a tree and lands on you, you will die... A pool table.
<SiFuh> What's yellow and red and sits at the bottom of your swimming pool? A badly parked bulldozer.
<SiFuh> My friend and my wife suggested that I should make a youtube video of me driving because I curse so much at the bad drivers on the road but the words I use are so funny that we can score huge hits.
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<SiFuh> I remember the day I said "Fucking hell dude. You drive so slow. I can overtake you standing still"
<SiFuh> My wife took a few seconds to realise what I had said. Then burst out laughing.
<SiFuh> She hates when I drive but hates it more when I don't drive. Today some Indian fellow cut in front of us. I was holding a beer and swerved around him. She shit her pants
<SiFuh> Half way home she asks "You are not stressed by that?" "No. There are retards. Retards everywhere"
<SiFuh> ppetrov^: Dog wanted more attention so she pretended to limp.
<SiFuh> I think she has been hanging around Chinese too much. She is trying to lie and deceive
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: I went to the Japanese restaurant owneed by Chinese. I was insulting the Chinese for ebing phone addicts and liars. Should have seen the two tables of Chinese near us look at me. My wife was shocked. I said "Soy munchers"
<SiFuh> ebing being*
<SiFuh> They cowarded down
<SiFuh> If I did that in a black area. I'd be going to hospital or a funeral home. That explains all
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: I have friends here that preach Cristianity door to door. I asked them about it and they said Malays always talk and sell Islam. The Chinese are very timid and hide. Want nothing to do with us
<SiFuh> They came to my home a few days back. They didnt' waste their time because Aunt Sally was barking at them.
<SiFuh> ppetrov^: Wife's dog's name is Aunt Sally
<SiFuh> They said dogs do not understand names more than 2 syllables. Full of shit.
<ppetrov^> i am really not a dog person
<SiFuh> Me too
<SiFuh> ppetrov^: I am not even a wife person
<SiFuh> But now I have squatter, I need to become a dog person
<SiFuh> Unfortunately my wife who hates animals had an affection of soughts towards the squatter.
<SiFuh> As happy as I am that she has broken away from the fear of animals. I am not happy about her mollycoddling of the dog.
<SiFuh> She can mollycoddle as much as she wants. The dog always chooses me.
<SiFuh> I don't want any pets to be honest ppetrov^ but she was a street mutt almost dying.
<SiFuh> Now have a new headache. Teach her rules to live here
<SiFuh> I want her to stay wild but court cases will be in sension soon if I don't train her
<ppetrov^> i really donät want to start on stray dogs
<ppetrov^> Sofia, my home city still has this problem
<ppetrov^> anyway, it's late and i'll go sleep soon
<SiFuh> It was a stray puppy and she thinks it was God who made her feel sorry for it
<SiFuh> ppetrov^: This is what we dewormed https://s3.amazonaws.com/i.snag.gy/TlA8WL.jpg
<SiFuh> This is what we have now. https://i.snipboard.io/k2Xdno.jpg
<ppetrov^> i am not clicking these
<SiFuh> Up to you
<SiFuh> It is a photo of then and now
<SiFuh> 800 grams now 5 KG
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<farkuhar> remiliascarlet: even if you haven't used sndio env vars to emulate a full-duplex soundcard on Linux, you can still help by running on OpenBSD the same tests that I outlined in this Markdown file: https://git.sdf.org/jmq/Documentation/src/branch/master/crux-wiki/ff-sndio-vars.md (I don't trust lavaball to do it accurately, and SiFuh doesn't connect such peripherals on his machine.)
<SiFuh> WHAT???
<farkuhar> Just a summary of what happens on OpenBSD for each combination of env vars, that's all I'm interested in. If they don't work there to emulate a full-duplex soundcard, then I have little hope of getting them to work on Linux.
<SiFuh> Oh farkuhar. Hold on.
<SiFuh> farkuhar: I don't think OpenBSD can compare to linuz
<SiFuh> Linux* It is extremely different
<SiFuh> farkuhar: If my wife can get her hands on the hardware and I buy a drive. Then I can deep dive into it for you
<farkuhar> SiFuh: thanks
<SiFuh> I already asked her several hours ago
<SiFuh> My problem is though finding a way to use two cards since that isn't normal.
<SiFuh> If I can mimmick your hardware setup, that would be a bonus
<SiFuh> When I do get my hands on it, if I do. I would like to know what hardware you are using. So I can attempt it
<SiFuh> I have a feeling that it will be a laptop she brings
<SiFuh> Laptops tend to share shit.
<SiFuh> i was thinking to bluetooth speakers and use internal mic or RC mic
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<SiFuh> If it makes sense
<SiFuh> All my machines are busy doing work so I can't just use any of them because it means down time which I can't and won't afford
<SiFuh> This house currently runs 8 computers all busy
<SiFuh> 9 sorry
<SiFuh> I have a 10th but it requires a soldering iron which I am lazy to do
<SiFuh> 11th is definately dead
<farkuhar> SiFuh: matching the hardware exactly is not essential. The crucial part of the experiment is to have two physical cards, and export different values of AUDIO{,PLAY,REC}DEVICE to see whether a single application can use both cards simultaneously (one for input, the other for output). Bluetooth speakers and internal mic should be a perfectly adequate test.
<farkuhar> This quest to find a working alternative to the mainstream way of addressing a particular use-case reminds me of SiFuh's campaign to get libressl adopted in CRUX (replacing openssl). In both instances, I think the mainstream solution will have greater staying power than the contrarians give it credit for.
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