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<remiliascarlet> zorz: Yes, I tried browsh before, and it was miserable.
<SiFuh> vivid is one of those words that means the exact opposite of what it sounds, to me.
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<SiFuh> Going to update the TV box first
<SiFuh> Upgrade*
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<remiliascarlet> Looks fun.
<remiliascarlet> I was considering to add 2 more monitors to my desktop, and stack them on top of my already existing 2 monitors, but I think the setup I have right now is sufficient.
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: I just did a fresh install on the laptop and it still crashes when xenodm is launched
<SiFuh> I will downgrade to 7.4
<remiliascarlet> Maybe some graphics driver the OpenBSD team has removed?
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: Not sure. startx works fine but xenodm doesn't
<SiFuh> I still have this box to upgrade as well
<SiFuh> And also the NFS server is on 7.2 and will need to upgraded to 7.3 and the packages, then to 7.4 and the packges, then to 7.5 and the packages. So that will be a big job
<SiFuh> 3:43PM up 122 days, 16:02, 2 users, load averages: 0.08, 0.15, 0.16
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: Interesting, I never had any of the xenocara stuff installed on the server because it doesn't need it. 7.2 to 7.3 upgrade automatically install xenocara
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<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: Alright, 7.2 to 7.3 is done, 7.3 to 7.4 is done, now doing 7.4 to 7.5
<remiliascarlet> The less packages you have installed, the smoother the upgrade process will be.
<remiliascarlet> By that I mean the speed of it.
<SiFuh> Well the NFS server has NFS, Cupsd, Samba, Sonarr, Radarr, qBittorrent, Jackett and so on
<remiliascarlet> Which reminds me, ConoHa still ships their OpenBSD images with 7.0, FreeBSD with 13.2, and NetBSD with 9.2. Meanwhile, Debian, Rocky Linux, CentOS, and Fedora get updated the day the latest stable release comes out.
<SiFuh> I remember why I never updated the NFS server. Torrenting became too slow and even to the point it wouldn't even bother and just stall.
<SiFuh> NFS and TV Box are now running 7.5 successfully.
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: What is the average amount of time before you sndiod crashes?
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<remiliascarlet> I honestly have no idea. The fastest was 40 seconds, the longest was 2 days.
<remiliascarlet> Not sure if it was exactly 2 days, but it was a long time.
<SiFuh_> Okay, the TV is running downstairs so I will see if I have the same issue
<SiFuh_> remiliascarlet: my main machine I cannot do sysupgrade because /home is on / and / is too small. So I need to download bsd.rd and copy it to / and on boot set image bsd.rd to begin the upgrade and upgrade over network.
<remiliascarlet> Yeah, exactly the reason why I always reject the default partitioning scheme, and just go for a much simpler version instead.
<SiFuh_> It's not a problem but the reason I prefer to use a custom table is because I can easily umount /usr/ or /usr/local or /usr/X11R6 and still have the default OpenBSD system. I can format them easily. They are seperate from the entire system. If a program is messing around or crashing, I can umount that partition it is on. I also can set certain flags and permitions on each mounted partition to stop
<SiFuh_> nefarious things
<SiFuh_> If a partition gets corrupted it doesn't effect the others.
<SiFuh_> I see it as a security thing
<SiFuh_> When I ran a server, I use to have /root, /usr/, /usr/local as read only. Doesn't work these days. OpenBSD detects it and complains
<remiliascarlet> I also noticed that GTK3 and GTK4 programs are all buggy as all hell on OpenBSD 7.5, but GTK2 ones work without any issues.
<SiFuh_> That's because the GTK programmers are buggy as hell
<SiFuh_> They want to offload their fancy shit onto the users without any consideration of what the users want. Kind of like putting linux-PAM in core.
<remiliascarlet> Yeah, which is why I think the best "GUI" library these days is Ncurses, and it's not even a GUI library.
<remiliascarlet> GTK sucks, Qt sucks, Tk requires you to learn a completely different language and so it sucks, FLTK sucks, and ElementaryOS's TK will probably suck as well.
<remiliascarlet> And any GUI library that tries its hardest to force mobile UI crap onto desktop users suck by default, and need to be sent to hell too.
<remiliascarlet> Any UI whether it's on desktop, mobile, or web without a (optional) dark theme sucks for making you blind.
<SiFuh_> Hahahaha, I say the same thing. Mobile UI has no place on Laptops or PCs
<remiliascarlet> Something Microsoft had to learn the hard way.
<remiliascarlet> They went full mobile with Windows 8, and then they went like "oh, nobody likes mobile UI on a desktop OS after all".
<remiliascarlet> I can't believe the Gnome guys still can't get it.
<SiFuh_> As much as I like having this super widescreen monitor. I doubt I will buy another again. Too much work to take it to get repaired everytime it dies.
<SiFuh_> Easy to buy smaller screens. Except, I want to go back to 4K screens
<remiliascarlet> Best are flat screens, but not too flat. So flat enough it doesn't take your entire desk, but still thick enough to allow you to repair it by yourself.
<SiFuh_> Or get a couple of projectors
<SiFuh_> Just change the globe every thousand hours
<remiliascarlet> I have a projector, and the quality is a disaster!
<remiliascarlet> Got it for free from a former work place on my birthday.
<SiFuh_> I can't remember the models we used when I worked for the PM. But they were very good quality. You would think you were at a cinema
<SiFuh_> I might do some research on them later when I have time. Might be something to think about.
<SiFuh_> iridium is a browser right?
<SiFuh_> If so, I wonder why I have it installed on my machine
<remiliascarlet> Iridium is one of the thousands of Chromium skin, yes.
<SiFuh_> Must have installed it for something and forgot to remove it
<SiFuh_> Right bsd.rd to 7.5 is done. syspatch is done. pkg_add -u is done. pkg_delete -a is done. Finally pkg_check -I -m to see if anything is broken and I should be ready to reboot into 7.5
<remiliascarlet> I wonder, wouldn't it be better to just rename #crux-social to #openbsd-social-without-trannies at this point?
<remiliascarlet> Or maybe not, because otherwise Libera.Chat might ban you.
<lavaball> don't tell me there are troons in obsd?
<lavaball> !!
<lavaball> dont!
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<remiliascarlet> I literally left #openbsd-social after having dealt with a delusional troon there.
<lavaball> you sure it was a troon though?
<lavaball> like not just woke.
<lavaball> you have to be careful with these accusation. they hold a lot of weight.
<lavaball> it's called troonix for a reason.
<remiliascarlet> It was more about that person being anti-crypto, but it read like a typical troon.
<lavaball> "read like" doesn't buy you anyting.
<lavaball> h
<remiliascarlet> Seen so many troons on the internet, they all write literally in the exact same way.
<remiliascarlet> The #openbsd channel is OK though.
<lavaball> i have been muted there since july.
<lavaball> so please.
<lavaball> get your facts straight.
<remiliascarlet> I have *my* facts straight.
<lavaball> okay.
<lavaball> also it's naive to think that if there is a troon in social she wouldn't be in main.
<remiliascarlet> There might be people only in social, since there's no obligation to join main.
<lavaball> fucking troons.
<lavaball> how i hate the.
<lavaball> well, then again, not really. i understand why they are acting that way.
<lavaball> it's really hard to hate anyone or get angry even, when you understand everything.
<remiliascarlet> Then again, all the OpenBSD channels on IRC are unofficial, so it can be run by literally anyone.
<lavaball> true.
<remiliascarlet> Including even by people who don't like OpenBSD in the first place.
<remiliascarlet> Because that's what troons do; they force themselves into communities they hate, take over, and destroy.
<lavaball> that's not exactly how it works.
<lavaball> close enough though.
<lavaball> also it's not just troons who do that.
<lavaball> right now it's the left. 60 years ago it was the right.
<lavaball> it's the same pattern every time.
<lavaball> just the direcition changes, yet it's a circle, so the outcome is the same every single time.
<remiliascarlet> 60 years is too much, 20 years ago it was the case already.
<lavaball> nah, 20 years ago the left was just on the rise and the jesus shit was declining.
<lavaball> all this takes a bit.
<lavaball> and it only got real traction in 2008 with occupy wallstreet.
<lavaball> well, the rich and powerful are rich and powerful for a reason.
<lavaball> outplayed all of society.
<lavaball> and now you guys are back to bashing your own heads in instead of fighting the establishmet.
<lavaball> but then to do that, and i keep saynig that again and agian, you would have to quit the surveillance, which nobody is willing to.
<remiliascarlet> But I don't trust either side anyway. The right got banned from Twitter because "right wing", they started whining about "muh free speech", set up Gab, and started banning anyone who's not overly political.
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: https://dpaste.com/EJ8C93L6Y.txt This is the setup I have. Currently about to utilize sd3h
<lavaball> so yeah, pods, bugs, owning nothing it is.
<SiFuh> One of the primary reasons why Naziism swept Germany in the early 20th century is because of the rampant wickedness and perversion that had taken over, including at the hands of homosexual Jewish doctor Magnus Hirschfeld, who created the world’s first transgender clinic in Berlin 1919.
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<SiFuh> Insurance companies across the country are using satellites, drones, manned airplanes and even high-altitude balloons to spy on properties they cover with homeowners policies — and using the findings to drop customers,often without giving any opportunity to address alleged shortcomings.
<SiFuh> The rule of law has been collapsing in Ukraine for several years, long before the country’s leaders could blame all their problems on Russia. The corruption in Ukraine runs deep. According to documents obtained by construction crews in Mariupol, several well-known pharmaceutical companies have been experimenting on humans for over a decade in the psyche ward there.
<SiFuh> zorz: Shogun episode 8 released
<zorz> SiFuh: goodmorning, thank you. btw interesting things you are posting.
<zorz> SiFuh: i watched 1-2 years ago an interview of ukraine ex attorney general, and how the zelensky regime took him out of business.
<zorz> SiFuh: look https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovGYUaPd50E&t=2s was not Jordan or Ronaldo or Mesi :)) hahaha
<SiFuh> zorz: My machiens were down for part of the day. I was only catching up with the news. Laptop with a fresh install will drop into kernel debug with 7.5. StartX is fine but xenodm is not. I then installed current with same problem. I dropped back to 7.4 but decided not to bother with the laptop for now since I use it for crypto mining with CRUX
<zorz> ok for mining, is better crux. but why ?
<SiFuh> The TV Box was next https://s3.amazonaws.com/i.snag.gy/qygrpT.jpg It ran out of diskspace for X11R6 so I had to delete the contents of /usr/X11R6 and then manually extract the packages. Apart from that. Perfect install. It is running downstairs as we speak. Playing a 12 hour movie with mpv to see how the audio handles.
<SiFuh> Because the miners don't run on OpenBSD
<zorz> openbsd does not want them to run on their systems... which is actually good.
<zorz> :P
<SiFuh> I then painted half the wall the first coat. Then moved on to the NFS box
<zorz> i like your pocket lcd
<zorz> ooo and this keyborads... are amazing
<SiFuh> NFS box had to be upgraded from 7.2 to 7.3 and the ports, 7.3 to 7.4 and the ports, 7.4 to 7.5 and the ports, syspatch and so on. It turned out successful.
<zorz> bravo
<zorz> i did only one basic upgrade with openbsd. default system no issues at all.
<SiFuh> Then the main machine cannot to a sysupgrade because /home _was_ in the / partition. So I copied bsd.rd from 7.5 to / and then booted it with set image bsd.rd and did a network install. It also went flawlessly
<SiFuh> The / partition is too small for the OpenBSD packages.
<zorz> this is a nice trick.... you did
<SiFuh> It is the easiest way to get OpenBSD.
<zorz> i think in default install on laptop with default partition from 1TB nvme i have home something like 250GB
<zorz> pure python runs faster in openbsd. only if python libraries depend on cmake on compile time, are slower than linux. but i do not use anymore. only fuzzywuzzy had this.
<SiFuh> I use 500mb for /usr/X11R6 which was fine back in the day. But the main machines has 1GB.
<SiFuh> ifklclftevvdlbhvdejrlnecdglvgddfuluvcfhrtueb
<zorz> ./exec du -ch /usr/X11R6/*
<zorz> 14:45:29 307MItotal
<SiFuh> pppooopsodfrsppppppppsssssssssss
<SiFuh> Hmm
<SiFuh> Hehe, was trying to get the bluetooth working so I can get some music going when I go paint this wall
<zorz> i have no ports, no source... just default install.
<SiFuh> Talking on IRC must suck then
<zorz> this irssi things like exec... are amazing. irssi is the best.
<SiFuh> irssi isn't in default install
<zorz> ./exec du -ch /home/*
<zorz> 14:48:13 12.2GItotal
<zorz> nothing.
<zorz> SiFuh: irssi is not in default install. i was planning to install weechat as usual but when i saw in openports.pl the dependanices runtime and build i decided to use irssi.
<zorz> ok took me a few days to find my way out.... but now experience is much better.
<zorz> SiFuh: if this thing browsh, works. i will set it up in germany get read of gtk and firefox on this machine and use firefox through the shell. kinda cool.
<zorz> rid
<zorz> shit i forgot, cannot uninstall firefox, selenium scrap thing.
<SiFuh> 08:03:19 [remiliascarlet> zorz: Yes, I tried browsh before, and it was miserable.
<SiFuh> Scrap?
<zorz> ooo thanks
<zorz> remiliascarlet: thank you :)
<zorz> scrape :-D
<zorz> so SiFuh if my X11R6 is 307MB, and you had 300MB hahaha, this is bad luck man.
<SiFuh> https://s3.amazonaws.com/i.snag.gy/Q9nqoh.jpg I only painted the bottom 3rd of the wall
<zorz> let me see
<SiFuh> better to start at the top and go down, but I don't want a full bucket of paint when I am two stories up the wall. Hahaha
<zorz> its nice. tell me electric appliances are like in UK ?
<zorz> i see the one on the wall
<SiFuh> Yes
<SiFuh> Ugly and huge fscking things
<zorz> oooooo
<SiFuh> I prefer the AU/CN plugs
<zorz> for myself, never got used to them... i hate them.
<SiFuh> Type I, I think
<zorz> AU/CN are like in europe ?
<zorz> no its not
<SiFuh> Type A, C, J, L N suck
<zorz> we use F and C
<SiFuh> Type C an A are just really dumb
<SiFuh> Wish this wall would dry so I can see if the colour looks consistent
<zorz> be patient
<SiFuh> Hmmm
<SiFuh> Some sites tell me there is a certificate error because my calendar is wrong.
<SiFuh> /etc/localtime -> /usr/share/zoneinfo/Asia/Kuala_Lumpur
<SiFuh> Tue Apr 9 20:29:04 +08 2024
<SiFuh> 20:29 MYT (UTC+8)
<SiFuh> Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia • Tuesday 9 April 2024
<SiFuh> My date is fine
<zorz> why not to be?
<zorz> in linux i used to run chronyd.
<SiFuh> My date is fine
<SiFuh> Just some sites complain that there is an error because my current date is April 9th 2024. They can get fscked
<zorz> what do you watch.... hahahaa
<SiFuh> I clicked this
<SiFuh> Warning: Potential Security Risk Ahead
<SiFuh> Your computer clock is set to 9 Apr 2024. Make sure your computer is set to the correct date, time, and time zone in your system settings, and then refresh gitorious.org.
<zorz> Warning: Potential Security Risk Ahead
<zorz> Firefox detected an issue and did not continue to gitorious.org. The website is either misconfigured or your computer clock is set to the wrong time.
<zorz> fuck gitorious
<SiFuh> Not After
<SiFuh> Thu, 28 Mar 2019 19:44:58 GMT
<SiFuh> Hmm the certificate expired
<SiFuh> You'd think firefox would just tell you that
<zorz> okay
<zorz> 34G swap ?
<SiFuh> I was testing Hibernation.
<zorz> never used
<SiFuh> The disk was originally from a laptop with 16GB of ram.
<SiFuh> Never worked either.
<SiFuh> I should actually do a completely fresh install
<SiFuh> I have done a clean install on this drive since 6.7
<zorz> i think it is better.
<zorz> myself thought, to change partitions in laptop.... but then its better everything to be on external drives... so .... no need. I left it as it is
<SiFuh> Backing up the main machine. Will look into doing a clean install soon
<zorz> haha
<zorz> he did not drink, it drunk him :P
<SiFuh> I never understood why Malay Muslims need to set off fireworks every night of the fast and then set off fireworks all night for several nights when the fast is over.
<remiliascarlet> SiFuh: Whenever my cat interrupts what I'm doing, I simply move him to a different room. By spraying water on them, all you're doing is you're making them scared of you.
<SiFuh> A woman in Poland has been taken into police custody for hitting her partner with a bone taken from soup that was cooking, after the two had a drunken disagreement over politics, PAP news agency reported on Tuesday.
<SiFuh> Hahaha, bet she was a leftist
<zorz> hahahaha
<zorz> SiFuh: more men have domestic abuse in greece from women than women have from men. The point is mens are embarassed to speak HAHAHA
<SiFuh> 1,214,238.60 YEN
<SiFuh> zorz: I was watching Lost in Space (2018) just now. The woman comes running into the room with a boken (Wooden sword) to cut my head off. What she didn't know is I heard her picking it up from the other room. So when she came flying into the room, I stabbed her in the neck with mine. And she walked out wondering how I knew. Haha
<zorz> Mr & Mrs Smith, do you hunt each other ?)
<SiFuh> Yes, it keeps her on her toes.
<SiFuh> She says "I didn't even touch the ground and you already struck me in the air as I was flying into your room"
<SiFuh> HAHAHAHA
<zorz> SiFuh: its hot over there now ?
<SiFuh> Yes
<SiFuh> 32 Celsius
<zorz> https://a.uguu.se/PHSMMZrK.jpg this is my balcony in Greece - the village home when snow HAHAHAHA
<zorz> get some cold.
<SiFuh> I remember when Mira was staying with us in KL. She said "I miss Kyrgyzstan". I said "Come here". I opened the freezer and said "This should remind you of home" and she burst out laughing.
<zorz> hahahaha
<zorz> actually when sunny, is hot.
<zorz> snow makes reflections
<zorz> the night is drama!
<SiFuh> during this time of the year, night is horrible.
<zorz> sweatty sex :)
<zorz> slippery sex
<zorz> hahahaha
<zorz> SiFuh: i forgot to tell you, when mining with a friend ethereum, https://hashrate.no/ <-- i used this page
<zorz> we had 82 nvidia rtx 3080
<SiFuh> Yuck, 54 cents every 790 days
<zorz> sold my part to him,,, took the money finished the city penthhouse :)
<zorz> LG
<SiFuh> I want an Antminer X5(XMR Miner)
<zorz> is it liquid ?
<zorz> over there u need liquid
<zorz> 1800 is ok, electicity is ok... but air coooled is noisy.... if liquid cooling i can buy one in automn.
<SiFuh> No, I throw it in the swimming pool. Then watch the people float to surface
<zorz> hahahahahaha
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<SiFuh_> Closing some shit because doing back up of home account
<zorz> SiFuh_: how much is the income of this xmr ant miner ?
<SiFuh_> No idea, never used
<zorz> basically u are a validator
<SiFuh_> But I do know the XMR guys are very unhappy about its existence
<zorz> monero, hit the max number of coins.
<zorz> everybody validators now.
<SiFuh_> They changed to a new algorythm
<zorz> if usage of monero will increase, and will increase after cbdc introductions, validators will do good business.
<zorz> ?
<zorz> when changed ?
<zorz> eventually everybody has something to hide :)
<SiFuh_> Go look it up
<zorz> only with monero you can hide :)
<SiFuh_> I told you I closed some shit because I am doing backups
<zorz> Total Supply ∞
<SiFuh_> Go look it up you lazy wombat
<zorz> reboot.... thouch pad off.....
<zorz> from that day, now it happened again.
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<zorz> it crushed on firexox hahahaa it might be firefox... or xenodm.....
<SiFuh_> zorz: Didn't I tell you to wait a few minutes if the touch pad isn't working?
<zorz> it works
<zorz> i listen to you. i went I smoke... finished cigarette and boot it up
<SiFuh_> Without rebooting
<zorz> with rebooting
<zorz> not rebooting
<SiFuh_> Then you didn't listen to me
<zorz> correct /sbin/halt -p
<zorz> smoke
<zorz> boot
<SiFuh_> No you moron. I said if it stops working. Leave the laptop alone and wait a few minutes and see if the touch pad starts working. I NEVER SAID reboot or halt -p
<zorz> as i think maybe the issue is xenodm... maybe firefox on xenodm
<zorz> ok... next time i will do something like this
<SiFuh_> firefox doesn't run on xenodm
<SiFuh_> It runs on xenocara
<zorz> xenocara then
<SiFuh_> xenodm is ONLY a login manager
<zorz> which i do not see at all :PPPp
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<zorz> serpente: hello!
<serpente> hey guys, i was travelling, got home yesterday
<SiFuh_> Excuses for being antisocial
<zorz> serpente: cool!
<serpente> hahah, not true SiFuh, i even installed some irc on my lineage so i could at least see some of what was going on here and make a couple of comments
<serpente> now im back to the pam fight
<serpente> lets fighn
<SiFuh_> Hehe
<zorz> SiFuh_: americans they are recruiting mexican meat in the prisons to feed the russian grider in ukraine
<zorz> ukraine is north, if they survive summer, winter is not mexican
<remiliascarlet> Ukraine is not Mexico.
<zorz> remiliascarlet: for sure not
<zorz> hahahaa
<zorz> Pirouel spam
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<SiFuh> That's freaking funny
<zorz> its funny, but he needs a therapist :P
<SiFuh> Not Catholics need a therapist because nowhere in the bible does it mention a rapture
<zorz> I do not know
<SiFuh> Of course, you ignored and never read the book
<SiFuh> Wonder if that is because you don't read the fucking manual
<SiFuh> Fortunately, you are not Ralph Hinkley and didn't lose the manual. For it is all around you, in many langauges, translations and transliterations. Even in Greek
<SiFuh> Interpret it as you will, but I have always seen it to be an instruction book with stories telling you what happens if you do not do the right thing
<zorz> should not need to read any manual, just follow the Πιστεύω and τις Δέκα εντολές.
<SiFuh> You mean the 11 Commandments?
<zorz> i still wait for the rise of the dead
<zorz> 2 different things
<SiFuh> There are 11 commandments and you'd know though if you read the manual
<SiFuh> A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.
<zorz> can you translate ?
<zorz> hahahaha
<zorz> ooo this is the old
<zorz> ISIS targets champions league games cool,,, we will have fun
<SiFuh> God didn't create robots
<SiFuh> Why the hell you need to repeat the same bullshit daily? You trying to bore God out of existence?
<SiFuh> You can function quite well with gray and white vision. You can also function quite well without flavoursome food and lovely smells. Yet God gave you these so you can enjoy life? Yet you want to call him up like a telemarketer and repeat the same bullshit than several billion more a repeating?
<SiFuh> than/that a/are
<zorz> okay
<SiFuh> zorz: You ever think about just talking to God?
<zorz> not yet....
<SiFuh> Abraham talked to God and he was bestowed a great honor. He was called God's friend
<SiFuh> How cool is that?
<zorz> i do not know man.... pleasse change topic
<SiFuh> RTFM
<zorz> ok,, in future i will
<SiFuh> ISIS to attack Greece
<zorz> if you load mullvad vpn in greece you see the instructions in arab hahahaha
<zorz> because of Patra port
<zorz> everybody their heading to italy
<zorz> and fucking EYP is fuckin sleeping
<zorz> ΕΥΠ*
<SiFuh> i do not know man.... pleasse change topic
<SiFuh> Celente says Gold will hit 3K before years end
<SiFuh> And Bitcoin will also go extremely high
<zorz> i do not know, time will show. i am looking the reactions of btc after halving. maybe i find a position to short.
<SiFuh> I am not talking about trading
<SiFuh> I am talking about owning
<SiFuh> You own BTC is better than trading unless you want to skim
<zorz> i would not buy btc now. for me now is quite high.
<SiFuh> Too expensive but still going to go up
<SiFuh> Actually there was a discussion the other day that BTC may actually be a scam to introduce CBDCs
<zorz> yes i agree, the point is does it worth the risc ?
<SiFuh> rsicv?
<zorz> remember people before covid entered at 65k... and they were stuck in the position till now. making no money.
<SiFuh> Wow, covid is so valuable? Didn't know you could trade that
<zorz> i am thinking,,, everything is bubbles... whatever inlfates eventually disinflates. if you get a good short position as long as it does not go high to burn you. even if it does not go down a lot for profit you get paid interest from the long position. this is the key.
<SiFuh> You are very uneducated about the markets.
<zorz> thats why i wait., when i will enter short position it will be in apex.exchange i will inform you.
<zorz> educated uneducated i turned 3000 to 17k
<SiFuh> Go read this book before you start spewing financial information
<zorz> i got accounts in bitstamp.net and deribit.
<zorz> i do not care what the rest are saying.... i am telling you what i do!
<zorz> its my money and if i like i can fire them up !
<SiFuh> Go read this book before you start spewing financial information
<zorz> i do not read.
<SiFuh> Iv'e noticed
<zorz> man... I gamble what you do not understand ?
<zorz> i do not need to read anything in order to gamble!
<SiFuh> I traded stocks, commidities and forex up until 2019 then I sold everything in January 2020 and have never traded since.
<SiFuh> Commodities
<SiFuh> Now I trade in physical assets because no loss if you wait.
<SiFuh> Steel, Iron, Aluminium, Newspaper, Cardboard, Copper
<SiFuh> I get gold too but they are on circuit boards and it isn't profitable to extract and sell so I sell them to another guy and he does it
<zorz> this is better
<SiFuh> Yes, because it doesn't touch your bank account
<zorz> can you do an account in cme ? London ? if you can is a good company.
<SiFuh> And during an apocalypse I can smelt the aluminium in parts
<SiFuh> No, I also keep all my receipts as well. So I can watch the value change over the years
<zorz> this is the only reason that i have smartphone, because of revolut account.
<SiFuh> Now Aluminium is going up and cardboard down.
<zorz> we speak of bitcoin and did not see nvidia comeback...
<zorz> i was stupid.
<zorz> Everybody thought, mining is over(ethereum) ok... nobody paid attention to AI
<SiFuh> People dump there shit at my home. Actually they ask me if I want it. I say yes or no. Today I was working on the steel from chairs, while i was waiting for the NFS server to upgrade. Yesterday, I was pinching all the copper from the airconditioning mechanics. They called the wife and said if he wants more, we have plenty. She asked me and shouted "YES! ALL COPPER!"
<SiFuh> Hahaha
<zorz> hahaha
<SiFuh> No fucking way do you throw anything copper out in my house!
<SiFuh> I can't believe that people here just throw it out. They have no idea how valuable it is. Not just for sell but for other things
<SiFuh> I also take brass, and lead acid batteries
<zorz> i should send some greek gipsies in malaysia..... hahaha
<SiFuh> Mechanics often throw the old broken parts out. I keep them and sell them too
<SiFuh> Tin cans. From everyone are to be washed, and delivered to my home.
<SiFuh> Beer bottle crowned caps too
<SiFuh> I use to do this in KL years ago. Then I did same in Australia. Now I live here and I do the same again.
<SiFuh> zorz: Here have many projects. I just only tell some of what we do.
<zorz> this is from tv... i see the antenna connection
<zorz> god i love scp
<zorz> he does not want aluminium
<SiFuh> I do, because Aluminium is worth a bit here
<SiFuh> One thing I want is germanium and mica but no one buys them here. So I just dump them
<SiFuh> Sad and a shame
<SiFuh> Anyways, I maybe will do this one day, but I doubt it. I just pass the board onto friends
<SiFuh> The ladies on ABC daytime talk show “The View” had their hands full with co-host Sunny Hostin Monday, as she falsely blamed “climate change” for a litany of natural phenomena, including the solar eclipse.
<zorz> over population is the problem of planet... and they will force reduce the population.
<SiFuh> Over population is the problem?
<zorz> you do not see it ?
<SiFuh> You don't know how to use a calculator?
<zorz> i know
<zorz> :P
<zorz> a comma almost almot :P
<zorz> i agree but in conjuction with overconsupmtion... now days a family owns 2 cars, 2 a/c, 4 computers, clothes etc etc
<zorz> they will spread diseases soon enough.
<SiFuh> zorz?
<zorz> my friend... i am lost too in html,js,sql kinda forgot everything.
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<SiFuh> I have two beautiful colonies of mealworms. South American and African. African are smaller.
<zorz> what is this ?
<SiFuh> Do you know when they arrive they all sick and die but the survivors I take care of?
<SiFuh> Do you know they both live together happily
<SiFuh> And they breed so fast, I now have thousands of them
<zorz> shall i tell you a truth story ?
<SiFuh> If you want but I think you are surface thinking
<zorz> when i was kid, a doctor greek from soviet union came to my village. the doctor used to keep bread on the floor underneeth his bead to get mold and he used to eat it
<SiFuh> So?
<zorz> mold is the basis for some medicins
<SiFuh> You talking about penecillin?
<zorz> the whole world run in wrong direction, because americans want to sell energy.
<SiFuh> Rothschilds you mean?
<zorz> i kinda like wthat Jack(twitter) did. Sold twitter to Elon, he is on nostr and baught this waterfall in africa producing electricity to mine bitcoin.... now Jack is free :)
<zorz> at the end,,, yes it Rothschilds
<SiFuh> Got a call from India
<zorz> not coming over there... dangerous
<SiFuh> Because you wear socks?
<zorz> Pinifarina died 65. good designer
<SiFuh> Pinifarina died in Malaysia?
<zorz> my first alfa romeo was design Pinifarina.
<zorz> no man... i read about the socks printed alah and
<zorz> if they are extreme in malaysia... i am not coming
<SiFuh> Pinifarina was wearing socks printed with Allah?
<SiFuh> How the hell do you put socks on tires?
<SiFuh> You know it is year 2024 right? He died in 1966?
<zorz> paolo pinifarina
<zorz> 65
<SiFuh> I thought M... from India took over Pinifarina.
<SiFuh> Mahindra!
<zorz> yes
<SiFuh> On 14 December 2015, the Indian multinational giant Mahindra Group acquired 76.06% of Pininfarina S.p.A. for about €168 million.
<SiFuh> They make Indian Military 4x4
<SiFuh> And my friend in Australia drives one and loves it
<SiFuh> When he went to Sri Lanka he drove an older model there
<zorz> some old american jeeps i remember having Mahidra
<SiFuh> You remember wrong
<zorz> ok
<SiFuh> I wish they did
<SiFuh> But the Yankees do some awesome shit when it comes to vehicles
<SiFuh> Not that electric shit though
<zorz> in my village someone had in eighties
<SiFuh> I can buy that here
<SiFuh> You think this is American made?
<zorz> i do not know
<zorz> american style
<SiFuh> It is 100% Indian
<zorz> the one that guy had used to break all the time
<SiFuh> I was looking at this
<SiFuh> But it is Korean
<zorz> https://ladaniva.cz/en/catalogue/lada/lada-niva-legend-3-doors if I buy or for more money toyota hilux.
<SiFuh> I want a dash simialr to this
<zorz> SiFuh: this is a tracteur
<SiFuh> If they sell Lada Niva here, I'd have bought already
<SiFuh> I'd lift the suspension 3 to 6" and put in portals to make the wheel base wider.
<zorz> when snow in greece.... its fun :P
<SiFuh> No
<SiFuh> When I am driving it is fun
<SiFuh> These things are so damned awesome
<SiFuh> I'd let the wife use it as her regular car and I'd fit in cruise control but for me
<SiFuh> Seen it before actually
<zorz> lada niva
<SiFuh> Wow really? I didn't know.. Fuck I am stupid!
<zorz> ?
<SiFuh> Sarcasm
<zorz> :)
<SiFuh> I should take a shower and change clothes, because I want to paint, Zorz is a big fucking penis on the wall
<SiFuh> HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
<SiFuh> Actually tomorrow will be a big painting day because wife will be home so I can paint the high places
<SiFuh> I don't when she is not home because I don't want to fall and lay in pain for 6 fucking hours and then die while she is out.
<SiFuh> I will never get to say my final words to her before I die "Your nose really looks like you stole it from Jacky Chan!"
<zorz> does this laptop autoreduces light on keyboard ?
<zorz> i think it did now.
<SiFuh> No
<SiFuh> You manually do it
<zorz> my idea then
<SiFuh> fn + F8
<zorz> f8 does not work
<SiFuh> I said fn + F8
<zorz> fn + esc locks them
<SiFuh> Okay, good luck with your lack of reading
<zorz> i am good
<SiFuh> Here, I have a faster idea
<zorz> thank you
<SiFuh> Put a teatowel over the keyboard
<zorz> i have a problem now.... with scrape of baby food cremes and shit
<SiFuh> Baby shit?
<SiFuh> Gross
<zorz> so far i was lucky :P
<SiFuh> Greek people bottle baby shit! Disgusting
<zorz> going to enjoy a smoke :-)
<SiFuh> A smoking hot baby shit?
<SiFuh> Or smoked baby shit?
<zorz> now SiFuh I am thinking :)
<zorz> they easiest simple way to overcome this issue
<SiFuh> 4 letter word!
<zorz> i figure out something.
<SiFuh> You're rong?
<SiFuh> wrong*
<zorz> no no work around should work.
<zorz> with a simple move in another directory the baby.html pages and run another script for this pages.
<zorz> its good..
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<zorz> hahaha
<zorz> hangman
<SiFuh> Might help you with English
<zorz> notime... and i do not want to improve them
<SiFuh> Racist!
<zorz> hahaha
<zorz> sorry that my mind is somewhere else!
<zorz> SiFuh: for the record everybody in the world inside of him is a little Racist!
<zorz> people say Germans, Israel is worst.... Scandinavian the same
<SiFuh> I don't hate any race you racist!
<SiFuh> I just don't like certain types of people
<zorz> I see diplomacy..... you are the most racist of all!
<zorz> you see somebody stupid and you are racist!
<zorz> haha
<SiFuh> How so? You think being a Wog you can judge me?
<SiFuh> I am anti-stupid
<SiFuh> You know like linux-PAM in core
<SiFuh> That is stupid
<zorz> Does bible writes do not love stupid ?
<SiFuh> No
<zorz> HAHAHA
<zorz> RedBullShits
<zorz> linux-PAM you will find a way with serpente.
<SiFuh> So BlackBullsDon'tShit?
<zorz> but i wouldnt even bother for linux.
<SiFuh> zorz: Fuck off, no sane human would put such insecure shit in core
<SiFuh> Sorry jaeger
<zorz> ok you are right! we know that....
<SiFuh> But it is just rife with vulnerabilities and every time they say it is secure some cunt finds another hole.
<SiFuh> I think the only way linux-PAM can be secure is if we kill some cunt.
<SiFuh> And if another cunt comes. Will kill another cunt too
<zorz> i do not know man
<zorz> i would not bother.
<SiFuh> It was a joke dude
<SiFuh> I guess you Wogs don't have same humor as Aussies
<zorz> As you said long time ago.... I stop dealing with linux
<zorz> Wogs did a movie in Mykonos
<SiFuh> Wog is a racial slur used to refer, in British English, to black and South Asian people, and, in Australian English, to people from the Mediterranean region such as Southern Europeans. Whilst it is extremely derogatory in British English, in Australian English it may be considered non-offensive depending on how the word is used, due to reclamation and changing connotations.
<zorz> Wog Boy 2: Kings of Mykonos
<zorz> i sent you the 1
<SiFuh> I know this Wog Boy
<SiFuh> I told you about the series
<zorz> FILM VICTORIA AUSTRALIA
<zorz> yes
<zorz> see the movie
<zorz> Mykonos
<SiFuh> Acropolis Now
<zorz> SiFuh: busy for video i need to finish this tonight.
<SiFuh> You talk like them?
<zorz> yes
<zorz> i talk Wog
<zorz> hahaha
<SiFuh> No
<zorz> yes
<SiFuh> You talk like them?
<zorz> yes
<SiFuh> In the video
<zorz> yes
<SiFuh> Fucking hell
<zorz> no my english are better
<zorz> but Wog
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: Wog boy talks like the Wogs in that video!
<SiFuh> Now can we communicate with him using voice?
<zorz> hahaha
<SiFuh> You know they are English scholars right?
<SiFuh> And you say your English is better than them?
<zorz> SiFuh: which video you talk ?
<zorz> hahahaha
<zorz> nope unfortunatelly not speaking like this
<SiFuh> You speak worse!!!!?
<zorz> yes!
<SiFuh> I had a stalker once. She then left me for a French man. What a relief. When he left her she tried stalking me again. Her fucking accent was disgusting. Not even like French.
<zorz> life is strange
<SiFuh> Her weird accent was
<zorz> never had issues..... used be straight you annoy me and i do not like you
<SiFuh> I annoy you
<zorz> no
<SiFuh> WHAT????????? You are saying I am a failure?????
<zorz> emacs are amazing......the only thing you need
<zorz> SiFuh: fuck off
<SiFuh> Am I annoying you now?
<zorz> no
<SiFuh> THen you fuck off!
<SiFuh> Emacs does everything I need and more
<SiFuh> I use VI/VIM for quick shit, but for serious stuff that needs to be done at super speeds, I use emacs
<SiFuh> My favorite is to be able to rename 10 seasons of a show in less than 5 minutes using emacs
<SiFuh> Actually it is a lot faster than 5 minutes. I am just saying that to make it sound feasable. I can do it in about 2 minutes 40. 5 minutes factors in mistakes
<zorz> i use mg for really quick
<zorz> vim quick python, or shell
<zorz> but when now, being in the page of fastapi python that has 680 lines
<zorz> copy paste this that .... emacs are the best
<zorz> mg has dired pressind C-x-d like emacs
<zorz> SiFuh: i should also listen to you and start using mc
<SiFuh> Why?
<SiFuh> You can't think for yourself?
<zorz> never tried it before
<zorz> never installed
<SiFuh> zorz: This makes me wonder
<zorz> ?
<SiFuh> beerman always installs enslaving software but bost of him console programs
<SiFuh> I don't think he uses console programs
<SiFuh> Also I saw his silly childish script for ports with kiddie faces
<SiFuh> I wonder if he is an adult.
<SiFuh> bost/boasts
<SiFuh> him/his
<zorz> beerman goes with the trend....for example what arch linux promotes.... let me find the program..... this is when i noticed he only know how to compile
<zorz> wait
<SiFuh> Well I do know he gets most of his shit from arch
<SiFuh> Just tweaks it a little to make it look unique
<zorz> https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Default_applications the program is handlr... i used to have it when in archlinux wayland sway. he brought it to ports.
<zorz> its a school of people, they like wayland and easy staff with rust
<SiFuh> Don't worry, I saw what he did with patches
<zorz> all the shitty programs of rust like bat
<zorz> or instead of find fd
<zorz> all the bullshit.... remember what i explained you for debian, ok they like it stable, but still they have run-mailcap... people change desktops offices and they want to copy paste in home dir the .mailcap.
<SiFuh> I will away for a bit
<zorz> people that know use fzy, people that do not know use fzf. when i saw incorporatins fzf in vim i was shocked.
<SiFuh> My friend has been offline since 28th
<SiFuh> I need to make some calls
<zorz> ok... do
<zorz> i need to
<zorz> continue a little bit and then sleep.
<zorz> ciao my firend.
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