<remiliascarlet>
farkuhar: We use YYYY/MM/DD in East Asia.
<remiliascarlet>
Trying out OpenBSD, and for that you leave IRC for a while? Well that's dedication.
<remiliascarlet>
zorz: More specifically, Dockers only run on systemd/Linux distro's. I don't think you can run them on systems like Devuan, Artix, Void, Gentoo (with OpenRC), CRUX, and some others.
<dlcusa>
Well, that was frustrating--the OpenBSD installer wouldn't build the auto partitions on the USB drive. I need sleep now and won't have much time for this tomorrow. Sigh.
<SiFuh>
Was that an April Fool's joke dlcusa?
<SiFuh>
Maybe your flash drive is too small for auto configuration to be useful.
<remiliascarlet>
I simply make a custom partition schema. a: for the entire OS, b: for swap, and c: just can't be used for some reason.
<remiliascarlet>
Because if I use the default partition schema, I end up being unable to use `pkg_add` altogether.
<remiliascarlet>
Need obs-studio? You need to compile libva! Need libva? You need to compile libdrm! Need libdrm? You need to compile libpciaccess! Fuck off then, I'll just use ffmpeg then!
<remiliascarlet>
I'm aware. But the reason to use OBS is because I want to be able to record desktop audio (so not microphone audio), which I've been unable to do with ffmpeg.
<zorz>
aaaaaa
<zorz>
I do not know
<remiliascarlet>
Now that I see it as a screenshot, that lemonbar actually looks nicer than it did on a photo.
<zorz>
when i want to watch tv, like the png photo you see I even get the *m3u8 link from the webpage and directly open it in ffmpeg.
<zorz>
remiliascarlet: thank you. the shell script very lite thanx to the color.
<remiliascarlet>
When I want to watch TV, I'd much rather jump off a cliff.
<zorz>
hahaha
<zorz>
please dont!
<remiliascarlet>
That doesn't mean I will die, I can jump off a cliff into ocean water.
<zorz>
At least get RedBull for sponsor! & make a will as well
<zorz>
bbl have to go!
<remiliascarlet>
RedBullshit.
<remiliascarlet>
Sounds pretty communist.
<zorz>
RedBullshit sponsor!!! ciao.
<remiliascarlet>
Q: 10 troons are having sex, how many babies will they get? A: 0, because they can't reproduce.
<lavaball>
troons having sex?
<lavaball>
don't be ridiculous.
<remiliascarlet>
They technically can, but it doesn't mean they can reproduce.
<SiFuh>
remiliascarlet: C is the entire disk. You'd have heard me blasting zorz about wrongfully using C for his msdos partition because he doesn't listen to instructions.
<remiliascarlet>
You've been blasting zorz for all sorts of things regarding OpenBSD.
<remiliascarlet>
Also, I was able to compile the Monero CLI wallet on OpenBSD, but not on NetBSD.
<SiFuh>
remiliascarlet: In high school at the art room was a tray and it said "FELT PENS (JUMBO)" written by a marker. Someone came over and modified it to "I FELT A PENIS (JUMBO)
<remiliascarlet>
Lol!
<SiFuh>
remiliascarlet: Cool, I was more into compiling the XMRig. But I knew it would never work on OpenBSD but I tried anyway.
<remiliascarlet>
I was considering to compile XM Rig too, but I don't think it won't compile because of the lack of hypertreading.
<SiFuh>
When I was in Primary school, I use to come to school early and hangout in the library before school starts. I use wait for the newspapers arrive. There is a section that says "To let" for renting houses. I use to change them to "Toilet". I did that for years.
<remiliascarlet>
"I was about to toilet the dogs out".
<remiliascarlet>
Correction: "I was about toilet the dogs out".
<remiliascarlet>
Reminds me to Abe Shinzo back in 2020 when he declared a "state of emergency", which in Japanese is "緊急事態宣言", but automated captions on YouTube misunderstood him (as it commonly does), and subtitled it as "ちんぽ事態宣言" (which means "state of ones penis").
<SiFuh>
Right, 70 bottles of beer @ 700ml done. 36 bottles @ 750ml done. New beer wort already made. Weighting for it to settle before I pitch the yeast. I prepared 8 bottles of vodka, and filled my flask as well. So all jobs done for today
<SiFuh>
All measured to 40% using the N.I.S.T. and a verified, calibrated proofing metre
<SiFuh>
And they updated xz while I was building so I haven't updated it yet to the latest version, which I just did now
<SiFuh>
Now I will do revdep. Rebuild anything it bitches about, then go back to sysup and then looking at which packages failed
<ppetrov^>
sounds like fun
<SiFuh>
Not really, it does it's own thing 99% of the time. Most of my systems operate automagically :-P
<ppetrov^>
revdep | xargs prt-get update -fr
<ppetrov^>
i do this
<SiFuh>
The OpenBSD machine downstairs was automatically taking care of it's self and doing updates and syspatches without me.
<zorz>
ppetrov^: maybe in the future I see a title in slackalaxy about page: Hi I am Petran I have used slackware since 2005, Crux but recently take interest into OpenBSD :Pp
<SiFuh>
I use a for statement. But I want to see what they are first.
<SiFuh>
ppetrov^: ffmpeg jq and sox
<ppetrov^>
I am not Petran, man. Petar -- from petros or whatever you guys call the stone
<zorz>
oooo my mistake :)
<SiFuh>
I thought your names was Petronas and they built two huge buildings in Kuala Lumpur after you
<zorz>
Petra, Petros, Petra Jordan!
<ppetrov^>
call me Peter, and that's it
<zorz>
Peter.
<SiFuh>
Okay Peter, and that's it.
<SiFuh>
I think it would be easier to call you ppetrov^ because then I use autocomplete
<zorz>
hahaha
<ppetrov^>
sure
<ppetrov^>
why openbsd and not freebsd?
<zorz>
ppetrov^: professore SiFuh will explain in detail.
<ppetrov^>
heh
<zorz>
myself years back reading archwiki, they mention on the shell section that ksh is powerfull. This intriqued me most to beggin searching for the light :Pp
<ppetrov^>
ksh?
<ppetrov^>
another shell, like bash?
<zorz>
kornshell and since I did not know bash, zsh or fish... if its to learn one.... start with the best. :Ppp
<SiFuh>
Smoking cannabis is now legal for adults over age 18 in Germany, after a new law greenlighting personal possession came into effect on April 1.
<SiFuh>
3 plants and 25 grams? WTF
<zorz>
1 april.... fools day
<zorz>
I will check tomorrow if its real :PPp
<SiFuh>
Better you ask lavaball, he will tell you if he allowed it.
<zorz>
Better ppetrov^ should ask him
<lavaball>
the faggot is back?
<zorz>
lavaball: behave...
<lavaball>
so last time on ppetrov^ shares the truth, he left. but now he's back. stay tuned, for now he will explain shit ... hopefully.
<lavaball>
ppetrov^, so, we were at the t-cells telling cancer's to starve. i read and heard multiple times (though that could all jsut come from one source) that the ccp virus vaccine kills those t-cells. annnnndd ... go!
<SiFuh>
....
<SiFuh>
lavaball: So is it true or is a joke that you can have weed in Germany?
<lavaball>
do you want quick or detailed?
<lavaball>
i saw the lawyer video on it.
<lavaball>
basically obama:
<lavaball>
YES, WE CAN!
<lavaball>
there are gramm regulations though.
<lavaball>
and i don't know if you are allowed to smoke anywhere.
<lavaball>
also i didn't watch the driving video
<lavaball>
since i neithr have a car nor am i retarded.
<SiFuh>
25 grams and 3 plants
<lavaball>
then you already know more than me.
<SiFuh>
I wonder if you can carry the plants down the road with a 25 gram bag in your pocket
<lavaball>
versusoasomething clean up detail basically.
<SiFuh>
zorz: It's true then. lavaball allows it.
<lavaball>
i'm for allowing all the drugs. just put a label on it saying: this kills you this way.
<lavaball>
done.
<lavaball>
let the idiots remove themselves.
<lavaball>
timcast clip was on oliver last night!
<lavaball>
followed by indirect penis attack.
<lavaball>
i'm still excited!
<zorz>
ok... we relocate to germany then, SiFuh will make beer I will plant hasis.
<zorz>
yeahh
<lavaball>
weren't you a jesus boy?
<zorz>
ofcourse I love jesus... I love Moameth Budha
<lavaball>
gay.
<SiFuh>
Thought he was a tight jean wearing transvestite Muslim.
<zorz>
with a machine gun m-50
<zorz>
lavaball: wanna see my caliber ?
<lavaball>
nah.
<lavaball>
i'm thinking about ways you could be useful, but nothing comes to mind.
<SiFuh>
lavaball: The label idea os okay, but the biggest killer when driving are power poles so they should put labels on them as well.
<lavaball>
i wanted the ppetrov^ feller to explain shit, but the princess isn't gracing me with an audience today it seems.
<lavaball>
the guy sitting next to you in the most dangerous distraction wise.
<lavaball>
anyway, since I'm no longer hitch hiking i'm not invested.
<SiFuh>
remiliascarlet: Steamed some beef for 10 minutes. Not bad, bit chewy. I think I preferred the roasting, flame grilled or slow cooked at low temperatures
<lavaball>
leave the original trilogy out of this.
<SiFuh>
Hahahaha, many years ago I was coming out of the jungle and came to an intersection where I was going to left but there was a stop sign. Next thing you know this guy jumps in my car and says "Thanks for stopping mate"
<SiFuh>
Hahaha
<SiFuh>
He was hitching around Australia, I ended up giving him a lift and some maps.
<remiliascarlet>
SiFuh: Yeah, I can never successfully prepare with steamed beef, only grilled.
<remiliascarlet>
I pan fried too, but I prefer grilled.
<SiFuh>
remiliascarlet: When i go jungle, I just bring canned meat. Like beef in curry and goat in curry. Stuff like that.
<SiFuh>
I remember a guy in the UK got arressted for showing that flag
<ppetrov^>
SiFuh, lavaball is on ignore and so will be anyone who keeps calling me retard, faggot and so on. In fact, if such harrassment continues i will simply not come to this channel.
<SiFuh>
Fare enough
<ppetrov^>
i told you once i would not put anyone on ignore simply for believing stuff, however, i come here for a chat, not personal attacks. And such i won't tolerate
<lavaball>
so i guess he's gay for real then.
<lavaball>
poor guy.
<zorz>
it should be like this!
<lavaball>
yeah, let's start the safe space construction!
<lavaball>
let's go!
<lavaball>
if we really put our mind to it we can reach the prefered pronouns stage in no time.
<remiliascarlet>
Seems like NetSurf is currently the only graphical browser that doesn't report its OS as "Linux" on FreeBSD and OpenBSD.
<remiliascarlet>
I don't put anyone on ignore list, no matter how much I get "harrassed".
<remiliascarlet>
Because free speech.
<SiFuh>
remiliascarlet: My Thunderbird reports as Atari, Inc. 1980 (Atari 2600; 8-bit MOS Technology 6507 @ 1.19 MHz)
<farkuhar>
remiliascarlet: ffmpeg should be able to record desktop audio, if you allow pipewire onto your system. A pure-ALSA setup might be trickier.
<farkuhar>
I can't remember what I used in years past when I wanted to record desktop audio. Maybe back then I was still running a pulseaudio daemon. In a pinch I might have connected the analog "line out" directly to the "line in" with a short cable, if I could tolerate the noise it would introduce.
<zorz>
SiFuh: pkg_info hatari Atari ST/STE/TT/Falcon emulator... I like Atari :PPpp
<remiliascarlet>
I think Atari went bankrupt before I was even born.
<zorz>
not Japanese mentality like nintendo, with 0 sales to survive for the next 50 years.
<zorz>
remiliascarlet: you are baby :)
<zorz>
commodore had success too!
<dlcusa>
SiFuh, remiliascarlet: No joke. It's a Lexar USB3 64G drive, verified with the appropriate ? response. I took cell phone photographs and will attempt to transcribe them into a paste file by sometime tomorrow--won't be around much today.
<zorz>
greatest invention ever... Swiffer, the superior undust tool for monitors :PPpp
<SiFuh>
2I still own a Commodore 64SX
<zorz>
??? really?
<SiFuh>
Yes
<SiFuh>
It was given to me by a guy after I fixed his computer.
<SiFuh>
It's at my parents home in storage
<remiliascarlet>
zorz: Your manual reading ability is baby.
<zorz>
remiliascarlet: I admit, I no perfect!
<SiFuh>
恒威
<zorz>
haha infant reading ability :)
<SiFuh>
No, before infant.
<zorz>
Χένγκουεϊ
<SiFuh>
Heng Wei is not Hemmingway
<zorz>
#crux-social is the kindergarten and SiFuh pretends the teacher :PPpp
<zorz>
Χένγκ-ουεϊ
<SiFuh>
Pretends?
<zorz>
where did you see the Hemmingway
<zorz>
lol pretends!
<zorz>
HAHA
<SiFuh>
The woman was suppose to take an inventory of all the stock as we were stocking the shelves. I just typed all the data into a spread sheet and she is missing SO MUCH DATA!
<SiFuh>
How can she set the rules at page one, and by page 6 half the rules are thrown out
<SiFuh>
And fsck her writing. It's horrible
<zorz>
marriage clouds ?
<zorz>
worst invention ever the camera phones, people just take pictures of paper notes and not use the brain anymore.
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<SiFuh>
This is the Inventory, I put into a spread sheet. Look at all the missing data? And she is the one who set the rules
<SiFuh>
Page one is completely missing expiry dates! And she only wrote the weight of one item down. Page 2 she is missing all the Brand Names. Page 3 is similar and she didn't write the weight of two items. And so on...
<zorz>
you should print this and put it in the cabin/draw/shelves (how the fuck is called) and when out, mark buy pen.
<zorz>
hahaha SiFuh
<SiFuh>
I handed it to her and said "Fix it!"
<zorz>
tell your wife we use simple FIFO method, first in first out, mark with pen.
<SiFuh>
I also notice, I am the only one keeping a record of what is being taken. Even though she wanted the record. So I didn't bother putting the numbers down because we need a recount.
<zorz>
its home inventory is easy... should see what going on in the kitchen storerooms of restaurants.
<SiFuh>
I think you don't understand what I have.
<SiFuh>
I have the equivalent of a medium store.
<zorz>
you need another column,,,,, something like max, quantity to order....
<SiFuh>
Take a look at the quantities
<zorz>
ok grams not need for your case... i think.... out is empty.
<SiFuh>
I need, because you can buy the same thing in different tins. So I can look through the items quicker
<zorz>
ok then.
<zorz>
you need to sent her once a week before the shopping day to take inventory.
<SiFuh>
Brand names are important. Because I see which brands NOT to buy because explosions, cheap metal, or rancidness
<zorz>
or you can supervise hahahaha I cannot imagine.
<SiFuh>
I ran one in Kyrgyzstan, Thailand, and Australia.
<SiFuh>
The Australian one was larger. Mum, dad, my brother and I monitored it all the time. Mum would go to the shop to buy stock and switch the neww for the old.
<zorz>
what i like,,, is to have fixed spots. so every item has its own space.... and when you open draws, you can see fast with naked eye what is missing.
<SiFuh>
The inventory you see is not even everything
<SiFuh>
None of the packaged stuff is written down. I think we have almost a tonne of rice.
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<SiFuh>
I think 250 kilos of beans, and about 50 kilos of different spices
<zorz>
getting ready for WWIII ?
<SiFuh>
I have been removing all the items with sugar in them though. Only the Baked Beans are left
<SiFuh>
Holodomor
<remiliascarlet>
WWIII in the jungle.
<zorz>
your home is in the jungle?
<zorz>
ooo
<SiFuh>
In a town in the jungle
<remiliascarlet>
No, your mom is in the jungle.
<zorz>
remiliascarlet: so cute!
<SiFuh>
But in the future, I want to get out of here and move into a house in the jungle with land, so I can build a workshop and do blacksmith work and farming.
<zorz>
quite easy nowdays with solar panels.
<zorz>
if you have the money...
<zorz>
hahaa SiFuh now in csv i am in the beans lentils chickpeas session... and you fight with canelini beans
<zorz>
SiFuh: yes your inventory system is like PAM!
<farkuhar>
because if they just removed linux-pam from core, then the util-linux port could be trimmed down, not even trying to build a PAM module in the first place.
<remiliascarlet>
`dlopen()` Oh yeah, that anti-feature that makes it literally impossible to statically link anything nowadays...
<SiFuh>
So if linux-PAM went into opt and util-linux port won't need the PAM module. Then when they install linux-PAM would they need to recompile util-linux?
<SiFuh>
farkuhar: Done.
<zorz>
who runs steam in the channel ?
<remiliascarlet>
Your mom.
<zorz>
remiliascarlet: runs, is it posible... to play shinobi sega in steam ? do they have it ?
<remiliascarlet>
So you're assuming your mom's gender?
<zorz>
./ignore remiliascarlet
<farkuhar>
SiFuh: thanks, I hope they haven't put you on /ignore over in #crux-devel.
<remiliascarlet>
./ignore all troons on this planet
<SiFuh>
I think only beerman did
<SiFuh>
I might have backup soon serpente is online in Telegram. I just told him
<SiFuh>
Ahh no, he is at the beach.
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<SiFuh>
zorz, why are you sending Wallops to the King of Yeastistan?
<zorz>
?
<remiliascarlet>
I asked on #hyperbola what kind of niche HyperbolaBSD tries to fulfil, and 1 person promoted themself to operator status, and remained silent. Looks rather hostile.
<SiFuh>
[23 19 11]-zorz(~zorz@user/zorz)- ooo its so nice.... no more linux, no more linux bullshit thx man! LG
<zorz>
you are the king ?
<zorz>
and it is notice, wallops is when @ notice each other.
<SiFuh>
Of course. My humble yeast service work very hard making drinks for me.
<zorz>
hahaha
<remiliascarlet>
Nowadays I only boot into CRUX to play video games, which I haven't done for 2 weeks now, so still in BSD-only full time.
<SiFuh>
My Hungarian friend who brews too liked that as well. He calls himself King of Fermentistan.
<SiFuh>
remiliascarlet: I should really get around to updating my ports in CRUX
<SiFuh>
telegram-bin 4.14.9
<SiFuh>
Lin Kuei authored 2 months ago
<lavaball>
the cellphone thing?
<lavaball>
telegram?
<remiliascarlet>
Yes, that honeypot.
<lavaball>
so my involvement isn't necessary.
<lavaball>
keep going.
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<SiFuh>
farkuhar: Whatever happened to romster?
<farkuhar>
they said he developed some sort of gaming addiction and hasn't been heard from since. You might want to ask braewoods, who has been in touch with him more recently.
<lavaball>
gaming addiction?
<farkuhar>
if you heard a different story, lavaball, feel free to share it. I haven't heard any updates on the Romster situation for at least a year.
<lavaball>
i don't even know who that is.
<lavaball>
i was confused that someone can be addicted to things.
<SiFuh>
From what I know it was medical related
<SiFuh>
I haven't seen him since 09/04/2023
<farkuhar>
He's still in Australia, right?
<SiFuh>
Far as I know
<SiFuh>
Victoria if I remember correctly.
<farkuhar>
For remiliascarlet's sake, can we say that you haven't seen Romster online since 2023/04/09 (so almost a full year)?
<SiFuh>
Yeah, it was short. The Magician sucks anyway.
<SiFuh>
The man in the woman in black clothes dancing while doing chin-ups
<SiFuh>
Was the cool part
<zorz>
kiss linux, dylan before he did the fff file manager, an nnn written in bash. I tried it for a while but had some issues. maybe kiss has issues.
<zorz>
SiFuh: that was cool.
<SiFuh>
It was, shame it was so short
<zorz>
cool part now is my irssi scipt that i can view all channels.
<SiFuh>
Show
<zorz>
SiFuh: weather is really bad... 30 degrees... is uncommon for this season + extra bonus sahara dunst.
<SiFuh>
Must be fun making sure you are typing in the correct channel
<zorz>
no you do not miss the channel you check the status bar...
<zorz>
as you type.... but is fun, you watch refind and grub in #obsd hahaha
<SiFuh>
zorz: Today was very very hot. Fortunately I use the airconditioner when bottling beer because the room is closed and sealed to everything. I keep it as sterilized as possible. Although the airconditioner isn't a smart move for sterilization. But trust me, it is too freaking hot.
<zorz>
i thought to tell them dual boot linux, efistub kernel and efibootmgr
<SiFuh>
I took a shower in the morning first and no joking. I thought I turned the water heater on. It was straight cold water!
<SiFuh>
I came out quite red and it really was the same as having a hot show. I did think of testing the temperature of the water but I didn't. It felt like it was around 50 Celsius
<zorz>
speaking of... you bottled 100 ?
<SiFuh>
No
<SiFuh>
106
<SiFuh>
And then I bottled a few botlles of vodka and filled my vodka flask as well.
<SiFuh>
Which reminds me, I should drink some to make sure I don't die.
<zorz>
haha
<zorz>
how do you wash the bottles?
<SiFuh>
It's cheaper than manslaughter and prison
<SiFuh>
Beer bottles?
<zorz>
yes
<SiFuh>
Foreshots from Vodka and then water
<SiFuh>
I use the foreshots and heads to clean everything.
<zorz>
ok.. so no one is aloud to throw cigarette filter in the beer bottle :P
<SiFuh>
zorz: Nothing will happen unless you did it straight away.
<SiFuh>
Alcohol even though it is distlled at 78 Celsius will evaporate at room temperature as well.
<SiFuh>
Pour a shotglass and put it on the table and go to sleep. In the morning when you wake up. Try and drink it. It will be just water
<zorz>
actually when done drinking beers of you wash the bottles with water should be fine. and another water pass before bottling
<SiFuh>
I rinse every bottle directly after finishing
<zorz>
ok
<SiFuh>
I do not wait. So every time I am about to get a new beer, I am washing the previous bottle
<SiFuh>
It makes life easier. If you don't and leave it sit overnight, then residue will build up.
<SiFuh>
I have PET bottles and Glass. Glass is my favorite but damn it is scary if you prime wrong.
<SiFuh>
Some people say bottle bombs are a myth. They are so wrong. I have exploded Glass bottles and PET bottles
<zorz>
its nice having home made all this things.
<SiFuh>
Yes and no
<SiFuh>
Yes for sure. No because lots of work.
<zorz>
correct!
<SiFuh>
Here can cook, ferment, fix, do pretty much everything. If we are missing the correct tool, we go out and get it
<zorz>
i still miss 7/11 beer shopping in usa, when no alcohol test... fuck life was great
<SiFuh>
Plus it also helps reading :-P
<SiFuh>
zorz: I was pulled over in the US for drunk driving
<zorz>
did you walked on the sprayed line ?
<SiFuh>
Asked me how much I drank and I said I lost counter after the first one
<zorz>
i did walk on the sprayed line.
<SiFuh>
The gymnastics exam? Yeah
<SiFuh>
I liked that
<zorz>
hahahahahahahhaa
<zorz>
hahahahahaha
<SiFuh>
I got no ticket
<zorz>
that is the correct alcohol test.
<SiFuh>
I agree
<zorz>
and if you fail.... you are blood donor.
<zorz>
and crusified!
<SiFuh>
Because they are saying you are guilty unless the office rapes you first. But when I got pulled over in the US he couldn't rape me or say I am guilty. He needed me to show I was sober enough to drive with a quick skills test
<SiFuh>
officer*
<SiFuh>
A forced breath test is an act of rape.
<zorz>
and not accurate at all
<zorz>
in cyprus the blow machines get canabis aswell
<SiFuh>
Well that is why in most countries (not in Asia though) they send you to the police station to use the crocodile
<zorz>
in greece not yet.
<SiFuh>
Australia has that already too
<zorz>
all this clever guys... no alcohol I do weed not problem.... hahahha
<SiFuh>
In Australia every single thing a policeman pulls you over for they will test your breath. Everything.
<SiFuh>
You won't survive in Australia on weed dude
<zorz>
Australia no good country to relocate.
<zorz>
Greece is good.
<SiFuh>
If they think you are stoned and driving, they will test you
<SiFuh>
I remember the first time I got super stoned in Australia on their paranoid shit weed crap. I was driving less than 20 KPH. I was avoiding all highways even though it is the safest place to drive but not at 20 KPH. Police are not allowed to pull you over in anything over 80 KPH unless you are a serious threat on the road. It took me 2 hours to get home and I drove through the mountains and the back
<zorz>
thats why theu kill each other.
<SiFuh>
roads. I could see the corner in the distance, and then it felt like 30 minutes had passed by the time I reached the corner. And it was only 5 metres away.
<zorz>
man.... a few times i slept in the car... got sober... and then i drove.
<zorz>
life is good.
<zorz>
one time was winter... slept with the engine on and the heater. good sleep man.
<SiFuh>
My friend went to a pub. Drank beer. Went to his car. Opened it. Threw the keys in the sugar cane field. Then got in the car to sleep. Then tap tap tap. Police arrived. Asked him what he was doing and he said sleeping because he drank too much and can't drive. Police asked where are the keys. He laughed and said "I know if I have the keys on me that you will charge me". He then said I he had thrown
<SiFuh>
them in the sugar field. The police man shone his flashlight into the field and saw a sparkle from the light reflecting off metal. The officer asked "What's that?" and my friend said "Looks like my car keys". He lost his licence for 5 years. Because he knew where his keys were.
<zorz>
hahahahahaha
<SiFuh>
I picked a woman from a pub. Tired. Wanted to got home. Took her to her home. She went to open the door of her house and realised she has no house keys. It was winter. She did have her car keys though. So she started the engine to keep warm and went to sleep. Police came buy and saw a woman passed out in a car in her driveway. She got charged for drink driving.
<zorz>
hhahaha
<zorz>
this is stupid
<SiFuh>
I picked her friends up from the pub later and they got a call she is in the 'watch house'. I even told the police when I went there that I had brought her home in the taxi. They didn't care. I told her that I will be a witness in court. Gave her my details but she never called me
<SiFuh>
zorz: Yes it is stupid. What about people who live in campervans travelling around Australia?
<SiFuh>
What about I am in my house and no where my keys are?
<zorz>
yes whats with them ?
<zorz>
break the window.... enter the house
<SiFuh>
This is why I like the American idea. And yes we have bars that will do it as well. You give the bartender your keys and you go sleep in the car.
<SiFuh>
The problem is that most bars don't open until disgnated times by their licences. So you might be sleeping outside until lunch time. Hahaha
<zorz>
in greece actually taxi is very cheap
<zorz>
no problem... take a taxi
<SiFuh>
Taxi is not cheap but it is cheaper than losing your licence and court, and gaol, and fines.
<zorz>
people pay for having 12-15 drinks.... hire a taxi costs 1 maybe 1 drinks.
<zorz>
meybe 2
<SiFuh>
I worked in the jungle. You want to go to a bar. Probably cost you around 60 dollars each way. A beer was 5 dollars
<SiFuh>
Closest bars would be about 15 dollars. But they close at midnight. So if you want the 4am crawl you'd pay over 60 bucks
<SiFuh>
One way!
<SiFuh>
When I go to KL. I just book a hotel near a pub.
<SiFuh>
In Australia I almost never go to pubs. I just drink at home.
<zorz>
still in Australia you get this thing drink with fight in pubs?
<SiFuh>
Eric Church says a beer tastes better on a barstool. He is correct. But it is cheaper, safer and more realxed to do it at home.
<SiFuh>
zorz: They changed most of the bottle necks
<SiFuh>
And removed handles from glasses
<zorz>
drinking in a pub in australia used to be unhealthy
<SiFuh>
So if you look at beer in pubs and bars they have very short necks or they give you a glass without a handle so you can't 'glass' anyone
<zorz>
i ask if you know... which dumb basic phone is build to be secure running a sim without imei
<SiFuh>
I kind of stopped using smart phones a long time ago.
<SiFuh>
I don't really follow them anymore and I find people giving the most strangest expressions when I say to them I don't have a phone on me.
<zorz>
the one i ve got, which is broken and old... its kind of home phone i use it only for banks.
<SiFuh>
I only really bring the phone to KL or super long distant trips.
<zorz>
in greece no need for gps map thing for me.
<SiFuh>
Last jungle trip I brought my phone because I downloaded a video I wanted to see just before the trip. I watched it the first night and then turned the fucker off and shoved in it the dashboard
<SiFuh>
I have a Phone for my GPS since GPS are no longer available here in Malaysia.
<zorz>
if in jungle i would buy one of those watches garmin
<SiFuh>
But it isn't connected to any network. Only GPS. And it only has GPS maps. I firewalled it with AFW and blocked pretty much everything
<SiFuh>
zorz: I am pissed off with Garmin.
<zorz>
why what garmin did to you ?
<SiFuh>
I went to the shop to buy one for my truck. The lady says I have to come back tomorrow because we are renovating. I said, well can I ask do you have and she said "No" then went back to her stupid phone.
<zorz>
truck drivers in europe also use garmin gps, they are the best.
<SiFuh>
Next day I turn up and the same bitch is there. I asked do you have a garmin for my truck. She said, we don't sell Garmin anymore. We only have the app on phones.
<zorz>
order one from amazon
<SiFuh>
I was so fucking mad. I said "I was here yesterday and you couldn't tell me that?" She said "No, we were renovating"
<zorz>
hahahahahaha
<SiFuh>
No Garmin doesn't seem to be doing Malaysia anymore
<zorz>
ok
<SiFuh>
My friend was angry. Called her a stupid idiot in Malay language
<zorz>
whats this thing if i remember correct soviets use another technology not gps guroscope ?
<SiFuh>
On the bright side. My old phone has a battery life of like 2 months and I can install many GPS software with offline maps.
<zorz>
all this people, do no systemd linux, like me in debian or devuan or whatever the app stream packages are patched for libsystemd. everywhere Lie. ok you uninstall libsystemd but... packages patched for systemd sucks.
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<zorz>
redhat is the problem of linux
<SiFuh>
............
<SiFuh>
No dude, lazy people, pussy Linux users, and big corporations are
<zorz>
one day you will not have to install systemd, will come with the kernel.
<zorz>
SiFuh: you are correct.
<SiFuh>
All they have to do is say "NO!"
<SiFuh>
If OpenBSD went systemd, guess what? I wouldn't use a computer anymore.
<zorz>
i do not know, with no systemd arch based,,, because they do not patch packages... whats going on.
<SiFuh>
Well didn't someone force the CRUX users to use linux-PAM
<zorz>
SiFuh: wrong you will use Haiku!
<SiFuh>
Next thing you know it will be gayland and systemd
<SiFuh>
No
<SiFuh>
Well maybe
<SiFuh>
Plan9 probaly
<zorz>
redhat fedora is full gayland
<SiFuh>
And who is pushing gayland and linux-pam into CRUX?
<zorz>
Plan9 is the Australian programmer that died young ?
<zorz>
whats the point to build a kernel, build your packages with headers in a linux distro and have linux-pam ? I do not get this.
<zorz>
so someone little experience like myself, i install crux, i build a kernel with efi stub no bootloader, i want to use seatd. and i get linux-pam as bonus ?
<SiFuh>
Well all I know is ukky was kind of deceiving with his words today about openssh. Which made me question him
<zorz>
SiFuh: you do not remember the day that I boot the laptop in openbsd and figured out the iwx0 when was ... do you ?
<SiFuh>
ukky> SiFuh: openssh v9.6p1 requires a patch to build without linux-pam. Unless you
<SiFuh>
are talking about some other distro.
<SiFuh>
I am using openssh v9.15p1 and I patched nothing. I just modifed the Pkgfile.
<SiFuh>
[01 14 32] [SiFuh> ukky: I was talking about CRUX
<SiFuh>
[01 15 29] [SiFuh> ukky: Are you talking about patching the Pkgfile or patching the source?
<zorz>
bsd utils come unpatched.... why they used patched.... i do not know.
<SiFuh>
So I found it kind of irrelevant to talk about patching when it is a CRUX issue and not an openssh issue
<SiFuh>
Then he said Tim will have a lot more work to do.
<zorz>
have you seen arch post.... we do not have prob, because our openssh was not patched.
<zorz>
he said that because of building extra packages.
<SiFuh>
Hmm Tim did that, he joined the core team. That's his problem. Secondly, why did he do that? Why install linux-PAM?
<zorz>
for desktop enviroments.
<SiFuh>
zorz: No, he modified extra packages for PAM if he had never installed linux-PAM then he wouldn't have had to tweak those packages for PAM
<zorz>
unless you use libseat you need pam
<zorz>
SiFuh: ok got it.
<SiFuh>
Not sure, I was wondering if it was a gayland thing. Maybe farkuhar would know.
<SiFuh>
farkuhar is pretty up-to-date with the flyspray. He may know when linux-pam was introduced and why
<zorz>
gayland, sway that they use primarily uses libseat.
<zorz>
iam coming from sway... 2 years archlinux wayland and sway
<zorz>
then moved to debian.... dwm
<SiFuh>
I don't know.
<SiFuh>
But it would seem very rude and selfish if the beerman had imposed linux-pam onto us because of his desires to use gayland and sway. I think it was introduced before though. Because I remember complaining about it before.
<SiFuh>
I think the best option is to strip PAM from core and then offload the job onto farkuhar to write a howto to install PAM on CRUX. HAHAHA
<zorz>
i dont think beerman needs pam for wayland sway, most probably he is using libseat.
<zorz>
hahahaah
<zorz>
fuck off!!! live farkuhar in piece.
<zorz>
leave.
<zorz>
let me see something.
<SiFuh>
I just can't see the logic to integrate a non-neccessary package into to core
<SiFuh>
How many of us don't use it?
<SiFuh>
Yet it has been installed and now we have to remove it.
<SiFuh>
And everytime I do a ports -u I now have to go out of my way to edit Package files to make sure it is done the way I want and not going to install linux-pam as a dependency
<SiFuh>
Hence my swearing randomnly like "Fscking linux-pam. Why is this even in core?"
<zorz>
i start telling you.....
<farkuhar>
SiFuh: doesn't the ISO installer give you fine-grained control over the packages selected for install? You can uncheck linux-pam there.
<SiFuh>
It is far easier for people to install linux-pam than it is for people to remove it.
<SiFuh>
farkuhar: Yep, and then boom several core ports are now broken
<SiFuh>
Good luck logging in remotely
<farkuhar>
Not if you patch them as part of your `ports -u` routine. ukky figured out the details based on Erich Eckner's post to the mailing list.
<SiFuh>
So I am expected to receive bloatware I don't want and then have to write a series of scripts to bypass this bloat and remove it once I do a fresh install?
<SiFuh>
CRUX is a lightweight Linux distribution for the x86-64 architecture targeted at experienced Linux users. The primary focus of this distribution is keep it simple, which is reflected in a straightforward tar.gz-based package system, BSD-style initscripts, and a relatively small collection of trimmed packages. The secondary focus is utilization of new Linux features and recent tools and libraries. CRUX
<SiFuh>
also has a ports system which makes it easy to install and upgrade applications.
<zorz>
assuming linux kernel is not bloated :)
<SiFuh>
hehe
<zorz>
SiFuh: face it...... linux is dying for us.
<SiFuh>
You made a funny!
<zorz>
let them do as they wish
<zorz>
give your advice when asked... and do not force.
<zorz>
linux is dead man....
<zorz>
now is linux pam... next year will be rust in the kernel....
<zorz>
fuck it!
<SiFuh>
CRUX is a lightweight Linux distribution for the x86-64 architecture targeted at experienced Linux users. The primary focus of this distribution is keep it simple, however it isn't simple because you need to be an experienced user and uninstall bloat that we installed that we like to use and if you don't like it then we will ignore you, because we are the developers and you are not. It is reflected in
<SiFuh>
a straightforward tar.gz-based package system, BSD-style initscripts, and a relatively small collection of trimmed packages with excess bloatware that you may or may not need. Uninstall at your own risk. The secondary focus is utilization of new Linux features and recent tools and libraries. CRUX also has a ports system which makes it easy to install and upgrade applications.
<zorz>
not so trimmed
<SiFuh>
Okay, I am getting fucking angry and my blood is beginning to boil again. I need a beer
<farkuhar>
SiFuh: how did serpente get Permanent Head Damage from studying PAM, anyway?
<SiFuh>
Permanent Head Damage is a joke from Malaysians. It is a play on PHD
<farkuhar>
strange that even someone with a PHD in Pluggable Authentication Modules seems reluctant to join your crusade over in #crux-devel
<SiFuh>
He's at the beach dude.
<SiFuh>
Drinking beer and cooking meat for his family
<farkuhar>
Oh, then I guess we'll allow it.
<SiFuh>
It's over 200 KM away to the beach
<SiFuh>
I think 280. Let me check
<SiFuh>
1 and a half our drive is the shortest at 75 KM.
<SiFuh>
Damn that is slow
<SiFuh>
But I remember there was a place and it was a lot further and he was to take his parents but never did.
<SiFuh>
He says "i will put some weight later" [when he comes back]
<SiFuh>
If I remember correctly farkuhar, emmet1 doesn't like linux-pam but it is used in venom linux
<zorz>
can be used completely without systemd, consolekit, policykit, dbus, udisks, gvfs & fuse (although it can coexist with any of these).
<farkuhar>
SiFuh: you corrected me the other day when I called emmet1 a "CRUX refugee". Now that he passed on to others the maintenance of Venom and started using CRUX again, I wouldn't draw any conclusions about PAM being used in venom linux.
<SiFuh>
I though the joke was "The only good programmer in Linux is a dead one"
<SiFuh>
farkuhar: He's not entirely in control of venom even though he is the original founder that I know of. I could mistaken
<SiFuh>
As far as I know, he is back using CRUX, and is planning to make an entirely new package system from scratch again. Hmm wonder if that is how he came up with the name scratchpkg.
<SiFuh>
However, he is pushing the idea of doing a new distro.
<SiFuh>
But with all that being said, he is devoutly religious so it takes a lot of time out of his work
<SiFuh>
He is an Ustaz an Islamic teacher. Which is pretty cool.
<SiFuh>
It will take up a lot of his time.
<ppetrov^>
SiFuh, that pam thing is really bothering you, isn't it
<SiFuh>
It's been bothering a lot yes ppetrov^
<SiFuh>
Should have seen the init 1 to init 3 issue that Per refused to fix. It bothered me for 18 years. jaeger finally brought it to the dev team and had it fixed.
<zorz>
18 years ????
<ppetrov^>
that's an example of persistence, zorz
<SiFuh>
zorz: Listen. In Linux you only need to reboot when changing hardware or upgrading your kernel
<zorz>
ok
<SiFuh>
In CRUX since 0.96 if you typed 'init 1' the system will go to single user mode. If you typed in 'init 3' which later changed to 'control d' it would crash your system going up to init 3.
<SiFuh>
For people who want to keep an uptime and not reboot, we'd do this.
<SiFuh>
So CRUX since 0.96 until about 3.4 would crash if you tried to go from run level 3 to runlevel 1 and back to runlevel 3. Defeating the purpose of even having runlevels
<SiFuh>
zorz: Let's say in an extreme circumstance. A linux machine was running in runlevel 3 and had a bomb attached. You can't log in during the 0.96 days because you had no password for root. But if you shutdown the machine the bomb would go off. Dropping to runlevel 1 (init 1) which is single usermode you could be root user and change passwords and go back to runlevel 3 and have full control over the
<SiFuh>
system. Disable the bomb, everyone is happy and you get the girl.
<zorz>
got it... at the end you get laid.
<SiFuh>
You are not very good at reading are you?
<SiFuh>
And yes ppetrov^ is 100% right. I stopped using CRUX for awhile and came back maybe 5 years later and still remember the stupid issue/bug and still harrassed them. Very persistant.
<SiFuh>
I even changed to debian and slackware because it shit me so big time
<ppetrov^>
maybe in another 18 years, they will move pam to opt?
<SiFuh>
Heh, I can't say what I want to say.
<ppetrov^>
huehuehue
<SiFuh>
Damn, I will 64.
<SiFuh>
Didn't the Beatles do a song about that?
<SiFuh>
I doubt I'd be using CRUX then.
<SiFuh>
Probably limping around the jungle, in a straw hut being careful not to sit on my own balls, thinking about the 80's
<SiFuh>
zorz: I didn't really like udevil. I did try it a few times. I ended up with udisks2
<zorz>
SiFuh: i only do udevil mount /dev/sdX for usb. it works ok for me.
<zorz>
for this case of use... no need to install full udisks2
<SiFuh>
Do you want me to type it in capital letters? Maybe can help you understand
<SiFuh>
You are using udevil on what system 'right now'
<zorz>
yes this is on debian on openbsd i do doas mount /dev/sd1i ~/usb which is better mounts everything in home dir.
<SiFuh>
zorz:
<zorz>
udevil on debian.
<SiFuh>
You know we have auto mount in OpenBSD?
<SiFuh>
But most of us don't use it because of security issues
<zorz>
i saw your magnificent script but was to soon for me that time.... trying to figure out obsd
<SiFuh>
No
<SiFuh>
You know we have auto mount in OpenBSD?
<SiFuh>
But most of us don't use it because of security issues
<SiFuh>
My script has nothing to do with auto mount
<zorz>
no i do not like.... but no need i wrote in doas.conf nopass cmd mount
<zorz>
/sbin/mount /sbin/umount. iam ok.
<SiFuh>
I don't
<zorz>
gets the id of the usb stick
<SiFuh>
My system is setup that all USB in and out must require a password
<zorz>
is your script right ?
<SiFuh>
My system will lock screen
<SiFuh>
No
<SiFuh>
My script is separate
<zorz>
ok
<SiFuh>
okay, here is simple way to understand my system
<zorz>
tell me
<SiFuh>
1) You plug in USB of any kind. Even headphones. System locks.
<SiFuh>
2) You type in password to unlock.
<SiFuh>
3) You open a terminal (If USB drive you wish to mount)
<SiFuh>
4) Run my script doas '<SCRIPT.ksh> -m'
<SiFuh>
5) you type in password
<zorz>
twice the passwd ?
<SiFuh>
6) Only if encrypted. You type in encrypted password
<SiFuh>
Now you have access.
<SiFuh>
If you wish to umount
<SiFuh>
1) run script doas '<SCRIPT.ksh> -u'
<SiFuh>
2) type in password
<SiFuh>
3) unplug the USB and the computer locks up
<SiFuh>
4) type in password to unlock the machine
<SiFuh>
Back to normal
<SiFuh>
zorz: Hell yeah
<zorz>
this is the correct way.... myself have nothing to hide... a few python scripts.
<zorz>
SiFuh: you know i never used idle lock screen et etc
<zorz>
savescreener never
<SiFuh>
I also
<SiFuh>
I care not idle lock
<zorz>
once you boot autologin you are in the desktop enviroment
<SiFuh>
I only have lock if you try to do shit, I don't want you to do.
<SiFuh>
Same
<zorz>
in crux was under 4 secs
<SiFuh>
You using xenodm?
<zorz>
yes
<zorz>
everything openbsd
<SiFuh>
I love that autologin feature for zenodm that xdm doesn't have
<SiFuh>
xenodm*
<SiFuh>
Would be cool if CRUX patched the xdm to have this feature
<zorz>
DisplayManager*autoLogin: zorz
<SiFuh>
I don't want zorz to log in
<SiFuh>
I don't trust your key hammerings
<zorz>
in crux inittab --autologin tty1
<SiFuh>
I never knew this
<zorz>
same i do in debian.
<zorz>
SiFuh: fuck off
<SiFuh>
Cool thing to know I guess
<zorz>
once in alpine linux...... needs agetty installed the openrc.... fuck i had infinite... tries hahahhaa
<SiFuh>
zorz: dude, mostly been an OpenBSD since 2002... 18 year issue with CRUX?
<zorz>
you know the drill system-rescue... go fix the init
<zorz>
mazochist.... I am telling you......why you care about
<zorz>
PAM
<SiFuh>
c5:2:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty5 linux
<zorz>
they are bigger issues than PAM
<SiFuh>
PAM is the first step that will end up having lazy developers install shit you don't need because it is what they need.
<SiFuh>
CRUX is about the users. Not the developers
<zorz>
now i was looking the dragora checz git
<ppetrov^>
i remember Slackware opposed pam for many years
<zorz>
do they use pam in dragora?
<SiFuh>
Any developer thinks they are higher and mightier than the user and forces their shit on you is not here for CRUX but for their selfish needs
<zorz>
to show off
<SiFuh>
No
<SiFuh>
It is a disregard to CRUX and the users. They care only themselves. Hence, selfish.
<SiFuh>
CRUX was always a very simple core. Now we have things developers want but isn't even needed
<zorz>
i do not know man
<SiFuh>
As I said and I say it again. If it isn't needed then it should NOT be in core.
<ppetrov^>
SiFuh, how many users does CRUX have? seems to me, it has an extremely modest user-base
<SiFuh>
I am guess well over 500
<SiFuh>
That I know of
<ppetrov^>
yes, there are dozens of us! dozens!!
<SiFuh>
And that means there are probably more
<zorz>
you know what I like and what should ppetrov^ enjoy. Now I have a machine that I spent my time in vim, emacs python. ppetrov^ will spend in R and no worries about the rest. when to relax bullshit in crux-social and is nice.
<ppetrov^>
i guess Debian has more developers
<SiFuh>
Fortunately most don't come to IRC :-P
<zorz>
ppetrov^: the packages vim xterm debian with openbsd have identical builds
<SiFuh>
CRUX isn't about the developers or what they want. It is about the users wanting this minimalist distro, lightweight and it makes sense.
<zorz>
what I mean is I do not give a shit if i have to update... or if it compiles or this or that..... I can concetrate in my work.
<SiFuh>
ppetrov^: Should I let jaeger know that I lasted 18 years and they did not?
<zorz>
I still remember the reaction of dlcusa yesterday,... where have I been all this time!
<zorz>
and dlcusa he knows.
<SiFuh>
Tim is using a bot to talk
<SiFuh>
How childish
<zorz>
hahahaha
<zorz>
he is afraid of your bulling
<SiFuh>
You saw it right?
<zorz>
I thought that I was drunk......did not realized from the first sight.
<zorz>
but the second i realized.
<zorz>
:Pp
<SiFuh>
No worries, it ain't over
<zorz>
I wish I could have pamix in openbsd
<zorz>
no pulse audio
<SiFuh>
Tim doesn't know me very well.
<zorz>
when in linux only pamix.
<SiFuh>
I can last 18 years easily
<zorz>
tell you the truth..... crux devs missed all this hype of the young people for curses apps like pamix
<SiFuh>
No we didn't
<zorz>
what editors have crux ?
<zorz>
emacs? mg? vis ? vile ?
<zorz>
nothing!
<zorz>
go in a distro and see what they have!
<zorz>
and we speak for gayland!
<SiFuh>
CRUX has vi the standard
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<zorz>
should have in opt or contrib..... more editors.
<SiFuh>
Thunder, again
<SiFuh>
Good news.
<zorz>
go in Arch, Debian, Openbsd, Freebsd.... see the editors section
<SiFuh>
I want it to rain and rain because the parents door swells in the rain. I cannot fix their door unless it rains
<zorz>
and you tell me that someone just installed crux can compile emacs?
<zorz>
hahahaha
<farkuhar>
the git log for core/linux-pam goes back to 2019-02-03 (when CRUX 3.5 was still in development). If SiFuh can last 18 years with a broken runlevel issue, he can surely put up with linux-pam for at least another 10 years.
<zorz>
over here is windy!
<zorz>
farkuhar: hahahaha you are the best!
<zorz>
SiFuh: another 10 years openbsd isolation!
<zorz>
urxvt why is not in contrib section ?
<zorz>
its not only the editors.
<SiFuh>
zorz: YES! I DO!
<farkuhar>
SiFuh: you make it sound as if you're pledging your wedding vows.
<zorz>
man, someone want to do prt-get install urxvt .... not use your script
<SiFuh>
farkuhar: You found it? WHo was the pusher and don't you tell me it was skuupi.
<SiFuh>
farkuhar: HAHAHAHA
<SiFuh>
farkuhar: I should use that in my next reply hahah
<zorz>
who is skuupi ?
<farkuhar>
initial commit was by jaeger, linux-pam version 1.3.1
<SiFuh>
A good friend and long time user and one of the first
<SiFuh>
Hahaha farkuhar Thanks!
<zorz>
does anyone knows somebody dani-77 ?
<SiFuh>
2020 was I realised it was there and I started to remove it
<SiFuh>
farkuhar: So we are 100% correct jaeger was the first?
<SiFuh>
I knew of a dani but not a dani-77 zorz why?
<SiFuh>
No, Tim put me on ignore, but he didn't put me on ignore for his bot.
<SiFuh>
Hahaha
<zorz>
hahahahahahahaha
<SiFuh>
[3~
<SiFuh>
Oh no
<SiFuh>
Oh by the way
<SiFuh>
That fluxbox port does the same this I did, but in a different way
<zorz>
eventually both install fluxbox
<zorz>
cwm saved me from fluxbox.
<zorz>
Nasdaq - Your password is expiring soon Hello Georgios Dimatis,
<zorz>
fuck off Nasdaq
<zorz>
SiFuh: how i learned python,.... i was scrape crypto news and send it to my phone by telegram.
<SiFuh>
I can't beleive ukky
<SiFuh>
He has no idea how pissed off I was when they put perl and python3 into core. Hahaha
<zorz>
haha
<zorz>
ukky is ok man
<SiFuh>
Yes, I have known him for many years
<SiFuh>
But still
<SiFuh>
I only accepted it because CRUX = pkgutils
<SiFuh>
And I don't think pkgutils should be in core anyway but this is an exception
<zorz>
we get the thing wrong........no need to care for PAM and this and that.... the problem is bigger and is the kernel.
<zorz>
so... leave it behind
<SiFuh>
Oh no, I am aint stopping
<SiFuh>
linux-PAM should NOT be in core 100%
<zorz>
ok... keep on going.... not 100% but 110%
<zorz>
:P
<SiFuh>
it is not needed by anything CRUX and should not be there
<zorz>
1000%
<SiFuh>
110 I can't
<SiFuh>
I got shit to do
<zorz>
hahaha
<zorz>
they speak in greece like this thousent percent!
<SiFuh>
Who fucking put ninja in core?
<zorz>
thousend
<zorz>
I like samurai... change it
<SiFuh>
There is a shitload of things in core should be there
<SiFuh>
But many are linked to CRUX features
<SiFuh>
But PAM?
<SiFuh>
zorz: ukky told me to stop using crux
<zorz>
i told yea ukky is ok!
<SiFuh>
Basically translated "You don't like it, then fuck off"
<SiFuh>
PAM is so important that I should fuck off from CRUX if I don't like it
<zorz>
SiFuh: I think you should be a gentleman... style of hi, how are you... how is going.... and when they ask you what about this... you should say i do not use crux! they should ask why you do not use CRUX .... because of u :Ppp
<zorz>
everything is politics SiFuh ... play them.
<SiFuh>
Was I not polite in #crux?
<zorz>
yes you have been today the little i followed the conversation.
<zorz>
other major problem of CRUX is... and this id gross..... people do not like testing linux distro. i use example debian stable and not sid..... crux is like sid
<zorz>
what a fuck
<zorz>
they are lazy to follow and just push a new testing release.... not the wise way.
<zorz>
and you tell me about pam now!
<zorz>
no serious person will ever use sid branch.
<zorz>
unless is a program developer.
<SiFuh>
You ask any developer what year they started CRUX
<SiFuh>
Bet I can beat them
<SiFuh>
I actually made a full Thai installer for CRUX in the year 2002
<zorz>
no serious person will ever install crux. because of the sid packages.
<SiFuh>
Here is a story for you
<zorz>
ok write...... iam back 5 min, cigarette
<SiFuh>
I have a friend who is super awesome and he introduces me to his wife. I don't like her. During new years I asked her a question and she answered and I said to my friend "Your wife is a bitch". Holy shit did I get insulted.
<SiFuh>
Turns out his wife was. She left him for a rich man that used her. Her daughters hated her. The oldest stayed with my friend. Then my friend died and she took ownership of everything. The eldest says to me "I hate my mum. SiFuh, you were right"
<SiFuh>
I am seeing the same thing happening in CRUX
<SiFuh>
farkuhar: I am staying very calm
<SiFuh>
I have written some very abusive replies and not hit send.
<SiFuh>
I think I am doing okay.
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<zorz_>
SiFuh:
<zorz_>
just a moment.
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<remiliascarlet>
SiFuh: And when it comes to porn based off fictional characters, both conservatives and liberals will call for a complete ban of it because "child porn" (which is just ridiculous to all it as such).
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<SiFuh>
remiliascarlet: Agree in most part
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<SiFuh>
DesRoin: Tool Time is really good.
<zorz>
I think is time to move to #obsd-social somebody will get banned.
<zorz>
:Ppp
<farkuhar>
or just put on /ignore
<zorz>
i told him.... enough politely
<zorz>
now obsd... why this madness about PAM
<SiFuh>
I am so biting my tongue
<SiFuh>
Fuck you farkuhar
<farkuhar>
How is that "biting your tongue"?
<SiFuh>
Maybe farkuhar is a godsend
<zorz>
SiFuh: relax man..... you know this is the right way to miss that you are right.
<SiFuh>
The replies from #crux are just childish or short-sighted
<SiFuh>
I really want to abuse them for this
<zorz>
hahahahaah
<zorz>
you are crazy!
<SiFuh>
So I am biting my tongue a lot farkuhar
<SiFuh>
zorz: I am not crazy
<SiFuh>
I stand by ideals and my word
<SiFuh>
I ain't no fucking liar
<SiFuh>
remiliascarlet: and zorz: are super welcome here. That is a fact
<SiFuh>
Even you piss me off sometimes zorz. Hmm all the time. You are still welcome
<SiFuh>
I am 100% a man of my word
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<SiFuh>
Thank god he left
<SiFuh>
Hahaha
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<remiliascarlet>
zorz: I was in #openbsd-social, that place completely exploded when someone brought up Monero.
<SiFuh>
Oh shit
<SiFuh>
I missed that?
<remiliascarlet>
I left that channel after the anti-crypto liberal completely lost his mind, and just couldn't stop sending complete nonsense.
<SiFuh>
remiliascarlet: I thought you and I were partners
<remiliascarlet>
SiFuh: I was literally documenting as it was unfolding.
<SiFuh>
Next time you go to an OpeBSD-* let me know