<remiliascarlet>
farkuhar: Not really sure what `"He does the work you're not willing to do; that's why he gets the license to steer the distro wherever he wants it to go"` has to do with my response to `"99% of software is unavailable on OpenBSD"`.
<SiFuh>
King of Kings is a 1961 American epic religious film directed by Nicholas Ray and produced by Samuel Bronston for Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer. Adapted from the New Testament, the film tells the story of Jesus of Nazareth from his birth and ministry to his crucifixion and resurrection. It stars Jeffrey Hunter as Jesus, with Siobhán McKenna, Robert Ryan, Viveca Lindfors, Ron Randell, Hurd Hatfield, and Rip Torn
<SiFuh>
databases/postgresql. There was a major update to PostgreSQL 16.1. Use pg_upgrade as described in the postgresql-server pkg-readme or do a dump/restore.
<remiliascarlet>
SiFuh: They made Puffy look like he died.
<SiFuh>
Yeah, and they called it King of Kings
<SiFuh>
Which is suppose to be Jesus from Christianity
<remiliascarlet>
Looks like OpenBSD is really the only OS without PAM. FreeBSD and NetBSD both have it.
<SiFuh>
remiliascarlet: Looks like it is a religious poster
<remiliascarlet>
I'm not blind.
<remiliascarlet>
I'm in #OpenBSD too.
<SiFuh>
Did I copy and paste?
<SiFuh>
According to the first-century Romano-Jewish scholar Josephus' book Antiquities of the Jews, Jachin (Hebrew יָכִין yakin "He/it will establish") stood on the right on the portico of Solomon's Temple, while Boaz (Hebrew בֹּעַז boʿaz "In him/it [is] strength") stood on the left, and the two were made by a Canaanite craftsman named Hiram
<farkuhar>
remiliascarlet: I was referring to this illogic: add and maintain hundreds of ports that others consider bloatware, and then accuse long-time users of not contributing enough (so their opinions can be ignored).
<farkuhar>
remiliascarlet: I too was surprised to learn that PAM is also distributed with NetBSD and FreeBSD. stenur cited this widespread adoption when arguing against letting this one port be the motivation for a fork.
<zorz>
SiFuh: yes... next installation will be sec.
<SiFuh>
remiliascarlet: It's interesting the response you got for startx vs xenodm
<zorz>
nmap, wiresark, hydra, john openbsd has... metasploit not. scripts in python, perl or ruby not problem..
<zorz>
this is in my status bar hw.sensors.acpitz0.temp0
<zorz>
SiFuh: but is noticeble that fan management in openbsd is superior than linux. keeps the left fan always on very slow. kick the right fan on firefox gpu accel. very superio comparing to linux.
<SiFuh>
zorz: You aged so damned quick
<zorz>
SiFuh: heh
<zorz>
SiFuh: how they say, I ve seen the story (or movie, or play) Everybody starts with ubuntu or fedora, then its arch or debian later is gentoo or crux... and the final destination is openbsd hahaha
<farkuhar>
https://www.malloc.se/ So maybe it's not such a loss that therealfun has become unreachable, if we are able to contact the founder himself.
<ppetrov^>
zorz, I started with LBA-Linux
<zorz>
ppetrov^: neaderdal :)
<SiFuh>
ppetrov^, zorz I started with Caldera
<zorz>
neaderdal aswell :)
<farkuhar>
brian|lfs several days ago brought up Lunar Linux, a distro that I was playing around with in the early 2000's. It had dropped off my radar, so I was pleasantly surprised by the post by brian|lfs.
<SiFuh>
That's the main drivers. For servers SuSE -> FreeBSD -> OpenBSD
<zorz>
no one of you tried this thing kwort linux... they say thank you on their page.?
<SiFuh>
I tried many distros. Doesn't make them a main driver or a server
<remiliascarlet>
farkuhar: It's not like I have a strong opinion on startx or xenodm, it's just that I don't see the point of using xenodm if we already have startx.
<SiFuh>
Sorcerer was one of my favorite distros
<SiFuh>
remiliascarlet: What if I want to stopx?
<SiFuh>
zorz: You are using startx?
<zorz>
remiliascarlet: when i installed obsd, i started as always with startx but seeing no difference bettween startx and xenodm on loading the wm i moved to xenodm since they say its better.
<zorz>
SiFuh: just answered that
<remiliascarlet>
I have no idea how I can form my OS history, because I have hopped between so many Linux distro's so often, I literally can't remember the order anymore.
<SiFuh>
So fickle
<farkuhar>
neandertal has such a negative connotation, though. Maybe referring to them as "greybeards" would show more respect? Say for a history like this: http://dlc.casita.net/~dlc/IT/R.html
<zorz>
i use xenodm and i do not need to enter in my profile the autologin startx
<SiFuh>
zorz: my system is heavily broken
<zorz>
which system ?
<remiliascarlet>
Neandertals were actually pretty damn intelligent.
<zorz>
what i did step by step was, 1) syspatch [gave me an xserver patch] then 2) sysupgrade and 3) pkg_add -u
<zorz>
sysupgrade on reboot did fw_update.
<remiliascarlet>
zorz: Do `syspatch` again to get the xserver patch again.
<remiliascarlet>
That patch was for 7.4, now you need for 7.5.
<zorz>
remiliascarlet: ok i will do
<zorz>
remiliascarlet: thank you
<SiFuh>
zorz: Did you do pkg_add -u yet?
<SiFuh>
Have you run pkg_check ?
<remiliascarlet>
Have you run `shutdown -h now`?
<remiliascarlet>
Have you run `kill -9 0`?
<zorz>
sifuh i do not have uvm, i am not sure but i have 4 things amd, amdgpu, iwx, the forthe i forget
<zorz>
uvideo?
<farkuhar>
zorz: if I'm reading pardis correctly, startx might be problematic if you have exotic hardware. xenodm initializes the hardware in a different manner and hence supports a wider variety of configurations.
<remiliascarlet>
Those are your drivers.
<zorz>
farkuhar: i stop searching in details, openbsd suggest xenodm, i use that. suggests cwm i use that. and so on.
<zorz>
SiFuh: had an extra driver
<zorz>
i remember that when i was installing.
<zorz>
SiFuh: tell me what to paste for you to check my laptops config.
<SiFuh>
zorz: I care not about your configs because my system is heavily different to yours
<SiFuh>
If there is something, I will let you know
<zorz>
οκ τηεν ι πασσ
<zorz>
ok then i pass :)
<SiFuh>
remiliascarlet: zorz: Basically when I did pkg_add -u it was complaining about diskspace. But the diskspace was fine. Was quite weird
<SiFuh>
sd9 not enough disk space. 8.6 available isn't enough?
<SiFuh>
sd2g*
<zorz>
ahhh
<zorz>
no myself i run solely openbsd with the default partition scheme of openbsd.
<zorz>
SiFuh: dont bother, backup data and format install new fresh... 45 minutes you are up.
<remiliascarlet>
SiFuh: I always install OpenBSD so that it uses the entire root on a: and swap on b:, no other partitions. And that's exactly for that reason.
<remiliascarlet>
The default partition scheme always gives me problems.
<farkuhar>
zorz: always a follower, never a trailblazer. That must be why your home directory has at least three files matching the glob "sifu*" (even though he never asks to be given credit for the ideas he shares).
<zorz>
farkuhar: with SiFuh we exchange ideas :P
<farkuhar>
but I bet his home directory is not cluttered with files matching the glob "zorz*"
<zorz>
but we do not agree always, SiFuh uses MPV, I hate MPV... SiFuh likes fluxbox, i like cwm... and so on
<SiFuh>
1: gimp-2.10.36
<SiFuh>
2: gimp-2.99.16p0
<ppetrov^>
gimp-2.99.16p0 <- is this gtk3?
<SiFuh>
remiliascarlet: But I am not out of diskspace
<remiliascarlet>
I like MPV and CWM.
<zorz>
remiliascarlet: :)
<SiFuh>
ppetrov^: Don't know. I was going to choose 1
<remiliascarlet>
SiFuh: "GIMP 3.0 when?" has been turned into a meme.
<ppetrov^>
gimp on gtk3 or 4... i guess it was inevitable
<farkuhar>
you saw all the qt6 commits yesterday? (and r0ni's request for a qt6-webengine package?) That's how somebody gets a free pass to take the distro wherever he pleases, by creating the appearance of doing more work than others.
<SiFuh>
But r0ni had no issues with linux-PAM
<remiliascarlet>
Compiling qt6-webengine takes so outrageously long, I'd much rather avoid any program that depends on it.
<zorz>
stop using qt long time ago
<remiliascarlet>
If you use any Chromium-based browser, you're using Qt.
<farkuhar>
maybe the work that others are doing is less visible ... like actually reviewing the software that's being considered for adoption, and keeping it out if it doesn't respect the founder's minimalist principles.
<farkuhar>
now that SiFuh has located the founder's present whereabouts, maybe we could ask him what he thinks of the direction CRUX has taken recently.
<zorz>
farkuhar: you allready know :)
<SiFuh>
farkuhar: How about nftables? No one wanted it, I made the port, then when they realised it was good, beerman introduced it to CRUX and kept it kind of under the radar
<SiFuh>
farkuhar: I had more info about Per Liden
<ppetrov^>
farkuhar, how does r0ni 'appear' to do more work than others?
<farkuhar>
ppetrov^: that wasn't a reference to r0ni
<SiFuh>
I always found it funny that CRUX was originally posted on fukt. I wonder if it was known from the start it would be inevitable.
<farkuhar>
GIMP versus Krita might be the only viable choices if you're a serious artist. More casual users ought to be satisfied by mtpaint: https://mtpaint.sourceforge.net/
<SiFuh>
zorz: You can take you 'fuck' and shove it. I have fixed all the proken ports now.
<zorz>
SiFuh: thats good news :P
<SiFuh>
I did notice there was a wayland port that was in there. I don't have it now
<zorz>
wayland ???
<SiFuh>
Yes
<farkuhar>
"r0ni had no issues with linux-PAM" <- in legislative bodies this attitude is called an abstention, and it doesn't count when calculating which side has the majority.
<zorz>
i have a problem now... and nobody can help me... this fucking salami page.
<farkuhar>
zorz: the only reason I would install pulseaudio or pipewire these days is if I needed to use two soundcards simultaneously (one for playback, one for recording). For most other use-cases, ALSA+sndiod works perfectly fine.
<zorz>
linux has sndiod ?
<zorz>
did i miss something ?
<farkuhar>
zorz: yes and yes
<zorz>
oooo ok then.
<SiFuh>
HAHAHA
<SiFuh>
All good things from OpenBSD eventually get pached by the Linux guys zorz
<zorz>
this is what i say... whats the point to run linux ?
<farkuhar>
the other day, remiliascarlet complained about having to install OBS-Studio in order to capture desktop audio. It's been a while since I've needed to capture desktop audio, but ffmpeg can do it if you have a pulseaudio daemon running. With sndiod, maybe it would be trickier.
<zorz>
opensssh sndio .... no point.
<zorz>
farkuhar: if you find a way tell me... maybe in future i need the mic.
<SiFuh>
Okay, I am going to backup the laptop and do a fresh install another day.
<SiFuh>
xenodm is still dropping to ddb
<farkuhar>
zorz: "whats the point to run linux?" The relevant metaphor is cathedral versus bazaar. If you prefer to go shopping for your everyday needs in a marketplace with fierce competition, then Linux is for you. Obtaining your everyday needs through a single supplier (cathedral-style) ensures more consistency, if that's what you prioritize.
<zorz>
farkuhar: yes depends what you do. I do only python.
<remiliascarlet>
`R="1919x1080"` Why that 1 pixel less?
<SiFuh>
You modify to what you want
<SiFuh>
I was recording a program not the screen. So I made it the size of the program
<remiliascarlet>
Just came across a quote: "Civilized man is the only animal clever enough to manufacture its own food, and the only animal stupid enough to eat it."
<SiFuh>
remiliascarlet: Not true
<SiFuh>
Unless you are talking manufacture=synthetic
<remiliascarlet>
It is. You won't see, for example, a zebra manufacture donuts for dinner.
<SiFuh>
zorz: We told you already, buy you never listen or read
<SiFuh>
remiliascarlet: Okay, dogs
<zorz>
its the totatal
<remiliascarlet>
c: is the whole disk.
<zorz>
totatal
<zorz>
:Pp
<remiliascarlet>
Zorzorz
<SiFuh>
Dogs will take something and bury it so it will rot and become more tasteful and smelly. Then they will dig it up and spice it a bit by rolling over it first then enjoy their modified food
<zorz>
remiliascarlet: :)
<SiFuh>
Crocodiles will take a dead animal or human and hide the food under water so that it can decay a bit before comsumptions
<remiliascarlet>
But that's not what is meant by "manufacture".
<SiFuh>
Snakes will swallow animal, then vomit it up and then wait a while before reconsuming it.
<zorz>
seriously,,, my first upgrade did not expect to be so smooth... quite impressed. remiliascarlet I also syspatched again.
<remiliascarlet>
Things like completely artificial stuff we shouldn't be eating to begin with.
<SiFuh>
Ants will feed their dead to a fungus so the fungus will grow and they can then eat the fungus
<zorz>
remiliascarlet: maybe hunt and grow will be better.
<SiFuh>
remiliascarlet: Hence I said synthetic
<zorz>
grow veggies, hunt animals.
<remiliascarlet>
I will hunt animals, veggies are unnecessary for me.
<zorz>
it can be steal veggies :PPpp
<SiFuh>
although, there are animals that can thrive off of synthetic materials but those materials are made by humans or nature
<zorz>
somebody else grows apples and you go and steal them.
<remiliascarlet>
They can survive, not thrive.
<SiFuh>
For example "Superworms" from South American can consume polystyrene
<remiliascarlet>
zorz: In fact, I haven't eaten any veggie, fruit, nut, seed, or grain since September of last year.
<SiFuh>
remiliascarlet: How about this for gross? Baby Koalas can't digest Eucalyptic leaves. So they wait until the mother consumes it, digiests it and shits it out. Then they eat her shit.
<zorz>
remiliascarlet: why ?
<SiFuh>
zorz: Explains why she swears like the guy in the commercial I posted above
<remiliascarlet>
Because I feel so much healthier that way, and my blood work confirms that.
<SiFuh>
zorz: I eat very similar to remiliascarlet
<zorz>
today they empty supermarkets selves in tel aviv
<zorz>
i like my tomatoes, pineapple. oranges... lemon!!!
<zorz>
watermelon... ooo greek watermelon
<zorz>
btw tomato is a fruit
<zorz>
has more vitamin c than orange
<SiFuh>
Of course it is a fruit.
<SiFuh>
But there is a small problem with this
<remiliascarlet>
Beef and pork livers have some vitamin C, but if you don't have any fibers, oxilates, or carbs in the first place, then vitamin C isn't as important.
<SiFuh>
The definition of a fruit is to come from a flower and containing seeds. So now Chilli and Cucumber are fruit?
<SiFuh>
Hahaha
<SiFuh>
remiliascarlet: There was an episode of House M.D. where there was a woman who was very unhealthy. It was learned that she was eating only meat and developed scurvy
<remiliascarlet>
Or brocoli, Brussels sprouts, corn, this all got GMO'd from a flower.
<dlcusa_>
Quick report: AMD box has yet to freeze doing big xz | tar tv pipelines although top only reports 4 cores, not 8, and sometimes xz or tar throws status 1 w/o explanation. I'll continue testing and seeking understanding of results as time permits.
<SiFuh>
dlcusa_: Sounds awesome. But wasn't the issue more to do with xz and systemd?
<SiFuh>
I don't really touch pork. I don't like it. I prefer wild pig (Boars)
<remiliascarlet>
SiFuh: Your femdom link seems to be down.
<SiFuh>
Fandom?
<SiFuh>
Scurvy is a disease of the connective tissues caused by the lack of vitamin C in the diet. Once common among those on long sea voyages or in isolated areas, it is virtually unknown today. However, it does occur in people whose diets are deliberately deficient in the vitamin, such as those that avoid citrus fruits because of their acidic content, or those on macrobiotic diets.
<SiFuh>
Once recognized, scurvy is easily treatable by replacing vitamin C. Symptoms usually disappear within minutes and the patient can be discharged within hours.
<zorz>
no the link works
<dlcusa_>
The issue is I want to know why the box freezes and prevent it. Right now the Linux kernel is very suspicious. Version 4 does it less than version 5.
<remiliascarlet>
Then explain me this: how comes the Inuits and the San tribe of Africa don't seem to have scurvy?
<zorz>
scurvy was a symptom of truck drivers eating only canned food
<SiFuh>
remiliascarlet: Raw fat
<remiliascarlet>
And how comes Okinawans didn't have scurvy until their source of food got destroyed in WWII?
<SiFuh>
Any meat cooked at high temperatures as in USDA specifications will destroy it. That is why the low temperature cooking is recommended
<SiFuh>
remiliascarlet: Green Tea?
<farkuhar>
zorz: solved your salami problem yet?
<SiFuh>
HAHA
<remiliascarlet>
I'll give it a try tomorrow, I guess. I have already taken out lamb, and cook half of it, and eat the other half raw. I've been curious about the difference.
<zorz>
farkuhar: quantity_unit_regex = r'(\d+(?:,\d+)?(?:\s*[\+\*]\s*\d+(?:,\d+)?)*)\s*(?!Τ|Δ|pods|Pods|PODS|x|Max|χ|ΠΟΠ|Ε|E|σε|Ταμπλέτες)([a-zA-Zα-ωΑ-Ω]+|gr|kg|Lt|lt|ml )' instead of # quantity_unit_regex = r'(\d+(?:,\d+)?(?:\.\d+)?(?:\s*\+\s*\d+(?:,\d+)?)*)\s*(?!Τ|Δ|pods|Pods|PODS|x|Max|χ|ΠΟΠ|Ε|σε|Ταμπλέτες)([a-zA-Zα-ωΑ-Ω]+|gr|kg|Lt |lt|ml)' solved the problem.
<SiFuh>
You shouldn't eat raw meat to be honest.
<remiliascarlet>
SiFuh: Green Tea is Kyoto, and it's not a food, but a drink.
<farkuhar>
zorz: another regex from hell. Kudos for figuring it out.
<SiFuh>
remiliascarlet: So? It still contains Vitamin C. What do Okinawans drink?
<zorz>
farkuhar: as i said... the mastery was to isolate from raw html units and unit measurement in greek english greeklish
<remiliascarlet>
As I said earlier, Okinawan diet has always (except for a short time after WWII) of mainly pork.
<SiFuh>
remiliascarlet: My plan is to flame cook the beef/lamb next
<SiFuh>
I didn't particulary like steam cooked. It was less tasty
<remiliascarlet>
I know.
<SiFuh>
farkuhar: Doesn't it look like brainfuck?
<farkuhar>
zorz: what character encoding is used most, on the html you have to scrape?
<zorz>
farkuhar: ΠΟΠ|Ε|E|σε| you know why two E .... one is greek E the other one is english E HAHAHA FUCK ME
<remiliascarlet>
I personally find grilling the best.
<SiFuh>
remiliascarlet: Maybe I can smoke it. That takes about 8 hours.
<SiFuh>
remiliascarlet: I agree that grilling is the better option
<remiliascarlet>
Putting a candy bar on an open fire makes no sense.
<SiFuh>
Davey Crockett come on. Killed me a bar!
<SiFuh>
Tried to grin it to death
<farkuhar>
SiFuh knows the wild animal. He was rooting for the bear that fought Leo DiCaprio's character.
<SiFuh>
HEHEHEHE
<SiFuh>
remiliascarlet: Grew up as a Davey Crockett fan. When we was youngen's we'd git's 'round to mockery. Tryna talking like ol'd Crockett
<SiFuh>
Tryna talkin; like ye ol'd Crockett
<SiFuh>
Jaeger is only a state away from Tennessee. Wonder if he talks similar. HAHAHA
<SiFuh>
My friend from California that lived a lot of time in Ohio pronounces 'been' 'ben'. We worked at the same English school back in the day so the students use to get pissed off with the different pronounciations
<remiliascarlet>
Soon you will tell me that people of Hawaii pronounce "fridge" as "asshole".
<SiFuh>
zorz: usr/local/share/fonts/ubuntu
<zorz>
18:33:44 ls: usr/local/share/fonts/ubuntu: No such file or directory
<remiliascarlet>
zorz has evolved from "what is BSD?" to "FUCK YOU LINUX!".
<SiFuh>
remiliascarlet: Heven says Bar after 5:20
<remiliascarlet>
SiFuh: I just say 熊.
<zorz>
remiliascarlet: seriously in future i will not take part in any coneversation regarding linux.
<remiliascarlet>
Then why are you in #crux-social?
<zorz>
because of my friends
<remiliascarlet>
Fair enough.
<remiliascarlet>
I don't use Linux on my PC's anymore apart from gaming, but I don't necessarily hate it. I only really hate the direction Linux in general is going into.
<SiFuh>
zorz: You have friends?
<zorz>
meybe they are right, time will show.
<zorz>
SiFuh: fuck off!
<SiFuh>
:-P
<zorz>
:-D
<SiFuh>
You won't get many friends with that attitude
<zorz>
myself, as i say, when pc/laptop on I like to concetrate to my work. OpenBSD gives me this pleasure... linux... everyday another adventure.
<remiliascarlet>
Bloat, Gayland, ShitstainD, ALSA/Pulseaudio/Pipewire/possibly a 4th one in the works right now, Code Of Conduct (and Kindness) (or COCK for short), Rust in the kernel, woke left taking over everything, corporate interest influencing the kernel, GNU being bloated and buggy, Linux being bloated and buggy too, and so on.
<zorz>
I am to old for adventures :)
<zorz>
remiliascarlet: I remember when with arch they promoted pipewire... and then pipewire had issues. ooo merde!
<remiliascarlet>
I actually like the adventure, because it teaches me more about the underlying gears of the clock.
<zorz>
remiliascarlet: ate the end in Linux nobody will code,,, they will only patch!
<zorz>
hahaha
<remiliascarlet>
I should tell you something funnier: Pipewire depends on Pulseaudio.
<remiliascarlet>
Want something funnier? Pulseaudio depends on ALSA.
<zorz>
hahahaa seriously ?
<remiliascarlet>
So you effectively need 3 different audio abstractions just to get audio.
<zorz>
and still talking for linux ??? do not bother.
<remiliascarlet>
Meanwhile, OpenBSD: just sndiod.
<zorz>
its nice to have a linux console with tmux... but tmux is bsd
<SiFuh>
zorz: You ate the end of linux?
<remiliascarlet>
草
<SiFuh>
Stick to meat or vegetables man
<remiliascarlet>
Well, Linux is a penguin, so he technically did.
<SiFuh>
[remiliascarlet> I actually like the adventure <-- So you coming jungle then?
<remiliascarlet>
SiFuh: Is it OK if I cause a mass genocide in the jungle?
<SiFuh>
Of who?
<SiFuh>
or Animals?
<remiliascarlet>
Of food.
<remiliascarlet>
So yes, animals.
<SiFuh>
I don't know if you can actually
<remiliascarlet>
Oh, that spoils the fun then.
<SiFuh>
No it will be fun
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<SiFuh>
You will porbably be running from a gang of monkeys
<SiFuh>
probably*
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<SiFuh>
They don't seem to like it when you kill one of their own. They tend to gang up and take you down. And if they can't they will wait until you are sleeping
<SiFuh>
They are not very forgiving
<SiFuh>
A tiger may be safer.
<SiFuh>
You will have a Parang anyway. That you carry with you at all times.
<zorz>
i think when systemd invented had some use, for booting (multi threadind boot)... but kernel changed. so no use now.
<zorz>
SiFuh: haha when in crux, i used to turn on, autologin start firefox open page... and wpa supplicant not connected yet HAHA
<zorz>
it was fast!
<SiFuh>
You scare me
<zorz>
You Do Not get scared!
<zorz>
yes systemd was ctreated for parallelized booting.... now no need.
<SiFuh>
I will if I see remiliascarlet screaming through the jungle be chased by a clan of angry monkeys.
<zorz>
remiliascarlet: go to caribbean alcoholic monkeys better :)
<SiFuh>
We have them here dude
<SiFuh>
And worse are the alcoholic elephants
<zorz>
SiFuh: no good for your pleasure... they drink your alcohols!
<SiFuh>
Oh fsck no, they ain't touching shit
<zorz>
like the elephant moving the truck? the thing was drunk ?
<SiFuh>
I think all of Malaysia will be scared if they see remiliascarlet screaming through the jungle be chased by a clan of angry monkeys, and I am running through the clan to wrestle an elephant stealing my beer.
<zorz>
cool... please make a tiktok video we hit views :P
<SiFuh>
zorz: I am seeing a lot of humor here. Wrestle an elephant to get my beer back and suddenly there is a tap on my shoulder "Son, how would you like to joing the Malaysian army? We already have a plan drawn up. We take _YOUR_ beer and dump it over enemy lines and you get it back, son"
<farkuhar>
zorz: would a tiled window manager be usable if you had a different size screen? Or do you simply feel unnecessarily restricted, not being allowed to overlap windows?
<zorz>
farkuhar: look... as i see it tiling is usefull... but... you need floating more. so you need the balnce. let me take a picture of tiling
<zorz>
3 window tiling as i am now
<SiFuh>
Fluxbox has both virtual tiling and floating.
<SiFuh>
I don't need a lemonbar either. Fluxbox comes with one
<SiFuh>
Hahahaha "You just trusted in your kid to turn a truck around on the edge of a cliff" "I trust in my kids. Like I always say, I have three more at home almost as good as that one"
<SiFuh>
Reminds me of the Double Dragon movie "I think of you like a son. And like a son, I can always have another"
<zorz>
the cpu has intergrated graphics, and has also gpu extra.
<zorz>
SiFuh: it did this before a few times in 7.4 but with reboot was fixed.
<SiFuh>
Well, I think your machine and mine are different
<SiFuh>
Also, I noticed touch pad sometimes takes a few minutes to register
<SiFuh>
I have an idea why, but never looked into it
<SiFuh>
Next time it doesn't work. Wait 10 minutes and try again. NO REBOOT
<zorz>
ok thank you..... other than that.... its faster, I open twitter in firefox and keep pressed the PGDN to roll the page.
<zorz>
is like linux used to be.
<zorz>
bravo to openbsd.
<SiFuh>
Mine isn't fast at all
<SiFuh>
Mine just likes to go to ddb
<SiFuh>
Hahahahahahahaha
<zorz>
you know what i noticed...... hahahahahaha
<zorz>
hahahahaha
<zorz>
you know what i noticed...... 2nd installation clean after i played.... i installed it with usb-wifi. I boot changed the /etc/hostname.iwx0 and the usual procedure... all good.
<zorz>
when i foramted the boot partition
<SiFuh>
And then you joing IRC to brag about it. HAHAHA
<zorz>
and reinstalled it.... reinstallation got the iwx from the beggining and relinking of kernel was better.
<zorz>
SiFuh: it was a fiasco... was tired and dizy with the csv
<SiFuh>
CSV? Cock Sucking Virgins?
<zorz>
oooooooooooo that would be a great dream!
<zorz>
Cock Sucking Virgins.
<SiFuh>
What if this virgin was a meth-head with black teeth?
<zorz>
no.... i do not like virgins..... no like to teach.... i prefer professional
<zorz>
HAHA
<SiFuh>
Have to wait till she has no teeth
<SiFuh>
Oh this is so wrong, topic change
<zorz>
FUCK OFF
<zorz>
HAHA
<zorz>
you nuts!
<SiFuh>
FST or DSB?
<zorz>
meaning ?
<SiFuh>
Not had sex in a while
<zorz>
oooooo
<zorz>
oooooooookkkkkkaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyy
<SiFuh>
Aussie acronymn from when I was working as a locksmith in NSW. They would say FST = Full Sack Tension and DSB = Dangerous Sperm Buildup
<zorz>
anyway, have to place dirty dishes in the dishwasher, be back in a few minutes.
<SiFuh>
Colleague would say "You need to find a woman, or you will get FST!" Boss walks in and says "Or even worse! DSB!"
<zorz>
greeks say μαλακία πάει σύνεφο something like mustarbation goes cloud.
<SiFuh>
I thought Greeks say 'bonjour'
<zorz>
:hahaha
<zorz>
how the fuck this broke in russia
<zorz>
φραγμα
<zorz>
φραγμα=dam
<zorz>
a water dam in russia broke.
<zorz>
4000 homes may affected...
<zorz>
i think ukraninas want to see bombs in Kiev
<SiFuh>
The region - which includes Orsk, other Urals provinces and parts of neighbouring Kazakhstan - has been hit by widespread flooding in recent days.
<SiFuh>
Fucking USA
<zorz>
sneaky bustards
<SiFuh>
Bustards?
<zorz>
bastardo
<SiFuh>
Bastards
<zorz>
thank you correct is not mustards :)
<SiFuh>
I really like mustard
<zorz>
i make
<zorz>
good one
<SiFuh>
mine is freaking spicy
<SiFuh>
1 teaspoon and you go to the toilet for 11 hours
<zorz>
i like greek soft mustard... english is spicy, i like... but dijon i do not like.
<SiFuh>
I spicy english mustard
<SiFuh>
But it isn't that spicy
<zorz>
david mcmillan had a good recipy making mustard spicy with radicio
<zorz>
this small red things
<SiFuh>
But everyone in my family that eats it hates it and my wife says it is too spicy. But mine heaps more than that
<SiFuh>
Dijon is what my friend eats
<SiFuh>
My father and brother eat American Mustard
<zorz>
greek is similar to american
<zorz>
dont forget 52
<SiFuh>
Hot dog stuff then
<zorz>
yes
<SiFuh>
No I want a teaspoon and watch everyone die
<zorz>
hahaha
<SiFuh>
While I feel like I am brlowing my brains out on Wasabi
<SiFuh>
Hahaha
<SiFuh>
blowing*
<zorz>
you put wasabi in your mustard... thats how you make it spicy ?
<SiFuh>
No
<SiFuh>
I have similar effects to Wasabi
<SiFuh>
You eat a pinch and your freaking nose is going to burn into your brain
<zorz>
stomach, arse later
<SiFuh>
Stomach is fine
<SiFuh>
Australia approved Digital ID and tracking, and the CBDCs
<SiFuh>
Looks like I am going to have to withdrawl all my funds from Australia
<zorz>
why all this young politicians are so naive ?
<SiFuh>
You idiot
<SiFuh>
There is much more involved than naivity
<SiFuh>
What they need to do is go and stud history. Wll, try Cambodia, Pol Pot.
<SiFuh>
Every single person that helped him get into power was executed because they are traitors. They can't be trusted
<SiFuh>
And all teachers, intellectuals, engineers, high IQ, multiple language speakers, were all slaughtered.
<zorz>
the truth is they are uneducated history wise
<SiFuh>
These morons who approve bills are pretty dumb. They don't study history and they just think they will be some royal member, an elite class. They don't realise that the moment the real class has power those who helped them into power will be mowed down.
<SiFuh>
History is notorious for using traitors to get power and then annhilating the traitors from the face of the earth once you have that power.
<zorz>
i feel sorry for every country that follows the american regime
<SiFuh>
I fell sorry for anyone who thinks it is American
<zorz>
australia, greece.... basically the israel regime
<zorz>
america australia greece eu
<SiFuh>
Dude
<zorz>
yes dude
<SiFuh>
It isn't American so fucking hell go read
<zorz>
they control america?
<SiFuh>
Who are they?
<zorz>
people in america allow them to do so ?
<zorz>
so its american
<SiFuh>
Of course
<SiFuh>
As tough as an American is, they have no unity, so they can't take the system down
<SiFuh>
You allowed them
<SiFuh>
In fact didn't you get an injection?
<zorz>
so ?
<zorz>
before the injection i had covid
<SiFuh>
Then you are naive, selfish, scared and traitor to the human race.
<zorz>
plus 2 injections.... 3 times covid in myself.
<SiFuh>
Then why the fuck do you need the injection if you had this thing?
<SiFuh>
You see?
<zorz>
to travel, but you do not read.
<SiFuh>
Naive
<SiFuh>
I travel
<zorz>
johnson... is just the virus, microdose
<SiFuh>
I never took shit.
<SiFuh>
I told them NO!
<SiFuh>
And also told them to fuck off
<zorz>
did you come to europe... during covid ?
<SiFuh>
And because I stood strong, they didn't touch me
<SiFuh>
Why would I ever come to Europe?
<zorz>
no way to get on a plane for/in europe unvaccinated
<SiFuh>
Thailand was one of the last countries in Asia to stop quarantine and injections and I still went and no quarantine or injections
<zorz>
if i want to go to greece or netherlands... i had to get vaccinated.
<SiFuh>
Here, what did Singapore do to the people who refused quarantine or injections? They sent them to an insane asylum
<SiFuh>
This reminds of what they did in the US and AU
<SiFuh>
zorz: So your excuse is you are willing to poison yourself for a flight?
<SiFuh>
Why are you using OpenBSD?
<SiFuh>
OpenBSD has a massive history of defying what Linux and the other BSD's do because it wants free software, opensource and because Linux and the BSD's didn't give a shit. They bent the knee so to say. They bowed down. They got fucked in the butt. Because they wanted hardware support and accepted binary blobs.
<SiFuh>
So OpenBSD considers them traitors to opensource and free open software.
<zorz>
when i realize what is OpenBSD,,, i did a clean full disk installation... kept the default partition sceme... and hopefully as long as this laptop lives will reach openbsd 20.1
<zorz>
20 to much... lets make it 12.1
<zorz>
:Pp
<zorz>
10 years.
<SiFuh>
You got fucked in the butt because you wanted a plane ticket
<zorz>
you know, sometimes i think...that the initial plan was embola.... but with embola you die fast once you get affected... could not spread.
<SiFuh>
And you didn't stand by those fighting for your freedom of choice. Bodily autonomy
<SiFuh>
Ebola is cured by Ivermectim
<zorz>
no stand, do not go for work... do not pay the mortgage payment... loose your house.... are you nuts ?
<SiFuh>
And because it is so fast at killing, it does not spead very far. It's a parasite
<SiFuh>
My wife does
<SiFuh>
I told her, they have to come through me
<SiFuh>
And she said "I stand by you". Which is awesome
<zorz>
it is nice!
<SiFuh>
Do you know most of my friends in Malaysia just went jungle. I didn't
<SiFuh>
zorz: Her entire family and friends injected
<zorz>
i was working in dubai
<SiFuh>
Even the doctor said some of them cannot injected but they wanted to join the club so they took it
<SiFuh>
It's a cult, a religion
<zorz>
myself... i did only the basics.. as a kid... and i do not take pills of any kind.
<SiFuh>
You guys were suckered into bullshit, and you fell for it.
<zorz>
sometimes aspirines
<zorz>
its not even considered a drug
<SiFuh>
Who cares, you fell for the scam
<zorz>
but.... i had to travel and work... so i have to do, so i chose johnson
<SiFuh>
I can't take antihistamines or acetominiphen.
<SiFuh>
Had to?
<zorz>
morgage was running
<SiFuh>
You don't have to do shit
<SiFuh>
You are making excuses and you were will to sacrifice your life over it
<zorz>
the law said that time restaurant business everybody vaccinated
<SiFuh>
The law?
<zorz>
otherwise no work
<SiFuh>
Did you make that law? Did you vote on that law?
<zorz>
employer wants vaccinated
<SiFuh>
zorz: I am not allowed to work. I still make money.
<zorz>
i wish i could
<SiFuh>
Tell your employer to fuck off then
<zorz>
all the employers at that time
<SiFuh>
Well if you read the bible you'd probably know but you don't
<zorz>
I like surprises :P
<SiFuh>
Here entire office is injected
<SiFuh>
Only the wife and the bosses son are not.
<zorz>
ok cool
<zorz>
whats the problem ?
<SiFuh>
The bosses son refused. I never asked why
<zorz>
we do not care... i did it and i do not care
<SiFuh>
Because you didn't stand for your freedom and your rights to your own body
<zorz>
i do not care for a vaccination.
<SiFuh>
So as I said
<SiFuh>
Your decision was about you and your fear and your freedom
<SiFuh>
That is selfish
<SiFuh>
You cared not about your real freedom and your right to your body and ignored their bullshit fear tactics
<zorz>
you know... i have friends disputing over vaccinations... and some greeks make you SiFuh look like a baby in this subject. I do not care... you do not want to do it dont. you want to do it do it. myself i did it for the paper and i really do not give a fuck.
<SiFuh>
So basically you are not OpenBSD you are linux and windows
<zorz>
hahaha
<zorz>
changing that slowly slowly
<zorz>
i think at the end windows better than linux
<SiFuh>
Well you last sentence in that paragraph is pretty offensive
<zorz>
because on windows you know its only microsoft... on linux will be many vendors
<SiFuh>
myself i did it for the paper and i really do not give a fuck. <--- Karma is coming now. You should watch what you say
<zorz>
we shall see.... what to do now, can i change it ?
<SiFuh>
Yes
<zorz>
make the antivaccine ?
<SiFuh>
Imagine a god created your life and you said I don't give a fuck, I did it for the paper. Do you think that god will care about you anymore?
<SiFuh>
Can you imagine your daughter cuts her boobs off for a piece of paper to say she is a man and she pumps herself for male drugs. And says "I don't give a fuck" How you going to feel?
<SiFuh>
People these days lack honor and they are very selfish in thought.
<SiFuh>
I know people in China in their 70's that refused the injection because they felt it was wrong.
<SiFuh>
And you are like less than 30 years younger than them. What a great fight you put up
<SiFuh>
Don't you think you have to have a choice?
<zorz>
SiFuh: I sweat for my second home.... if i was loosing that..... then i was loosing my life
<zorz>
you do not understand this.
<SiFuh>
Russian Roulette?
<zorz>
yes
<zorz>
at least now mortgage is finished.
<zorz>
i do not have to pay rent to anyone
<SiFuh>
Who cares if you die soon
<zorz>
as a matter of fact when old... i will have income from the second home.
<SiFuh>
Heh, I call that rent too even though it isn't
<SiFuh>
My friend from the French Foreign Legion is paid for life. Setup like a king dude
<SiFuh>
He just has to wait
<zorz>
French Legion
<SiFuh>
Then Macron changed the ages for recieving the funds
<SiFuh>
So he had to wait longer
<zorz>
all of them hunging over there at your places.
<SiFuh>
Finally he was ready and they injected him and he has a stroke now. He ain't going to enjoy this
<zorz>
the first to know the yugoslavia bombing was them
<SiFuh>
I am still angry about Yugoslavia
<SiFuh>
Fucking NATO
<zorz>
SiFuh: this turned up bad!
<SiFuh>
NATO can't survive without a threat
<zorz>
Serbian so pretty/handsome race
<SiFuh>
So it makes threats
<SiFuh>
NATO can't survive unless many countries support it, so it divides nations.
<SiFuh>
UN was worse
<zorz>
man... if ukranian war is over and israel... then they need to find another one... 2 the candidates
<zorz>
taiwan or iran
<SiFuh>
Go read the book Selous Scouts
<SiFuh>
Check out what evil the UN did in Africa.
<zorz>
better not to know... my imagination is limited.
<SiFuh>
zorz! Shut up bro.
<zorz>
why you think usa kicked out macron of selling weapon in australia ?
<SiFuh>
Russia, Iran, China, Taiwan, Europe, Israel and North Korea are what they are aiming for.
<zorz>
SiFuh: if something comes up... take wife and come here
<SiFuh>
NO!
<zorz>
God loves Greece!
<SiFuh>
I don't fucking give two hoots about Europe
<SiFuh>
You guys killed more people on the planet than anyone else. I wish you sink to the bottom of the sea :-P
<zorz>
:)
<zorz>
they were others before and after.
<SiFuh>
You don't really read history do you?
<zorz>
you know this island .... Patmos ?
<SiFuh>
YES
<zorz>
you know John!
<SiFuh>
YES
<SiFuh>
And his writings that you never read
<zorz>
ok, time for you to pay a visit.
<zorz>
lets go together... i want to go there.
<zorz>
00:22:30 : #openbsd : Maras : I've just gone from 7.1 to 7.4
<zorz>
00:22:35 : #openbsd : Maras : smooth like butter
<SiFuh>
Read his books first
<zorz>
hahahaa
<zorz>
he missed 7.5
<SiFuh>
He wrote Apocrypha there
<zorz>
I will never forget when Kissinger said hit them on the language!
<zorz>
Kissinger did not want the world to learn greek because of books like this one.
<SiFuh>
I will enver forget you asking me to go to a Christian site and you never have read one word of what that Christian wrote.
<zorz>
now i am young....this is for later when old :)
<SiFuh>
Seems quite naive
<SiFuh>
You want a good read?
<SiFuh>
Try the Mahabaratah
<SiFuh>
The full text will take you 80 years. But the public text only a couple
<zorz>
sanscript
<SiFuh>
The funniest thing I ever started to read was "The Epic's of Manas"
<zorz>
you read a lot
<SiFuh>
I didn't survive it. It was the most boring piece of literature I ever layed my eyes upon
<SiFuh>
I hate reading
<SiFuh>
It is one of my all time hatreds
<SiFuh>
But if you want knowledge then you need to and yes I mean need to know.
<zorz>
yes, this is correct.
<SiFuh>
You never watched that Atlantis video I sent you
<SiFuh>
Dare you to join ##slackware and say "Westworld has released a new season and it is awesome" then leave
<zorz>
ηροδοτος said ηράκλειες στυλες... meaning somewhere in gibralter.
<SiFuh>
No he didn't
<zorz>
did tou read ηροδοτος ?
<SiFuh>
You have to pass through the gates of Hercules
<SiFuh>
As in... Beyond the gates of Hercules
<SiFuh>
Doesn't say it is in the gates of Hercules.
<SiFuh>
That is fucking dumb
<zorz>
00:32:45 -!- Channel ##slackware created Wed May 19 17:33:30 2021
<zorz>
00:32:51 -!- Irssi: Join to ##slackware was synced in 8 secs
<SiFuh>
I live in my doorway. Not my fucking house
<zorz>
00:32:52 < zorz> "Westworld has released a new season and it is awesome"
<zorz>
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<zorz>
why its with ##
<SiFuh>
I park my car between my driveway's gates. Not in the garage. You retard
<zorz>
Στην περιγραφή του Πλάτωνα, η Ατλαντίδα, βρίσκεται πέρα από τις Ηράκλειες στήλες (γνωστά ως στενά του Γιβραλτάρ), ήταν μια ναυτική δύναμη που είχε κατακτήσει πολλά μέρη της δυτικής Ευρώπης και της Αφρικής, περίπου 9.000
<zorz>
χρόνια πριν τον Σόλωνα (Περίπου το 9.600 Π.Χ.). Μετά από μια αποτυχημένη
<zorz>
it was plato
<zorz>
translate this please.
<SiFuh>
βρίσκεται <-----------------
<zorz>
atlantic ocean
<SiFuh>
No
<SiFuh>
It doesn't say Atlantic Ocean
<zorz>
SiFuh: bastard do you know greek ?
<SiFuh>
Dude, seriously
<SiFuh>
Shut your mouth and watch the video
<SiFuh>
Come back after you watch it.
<zorz>
wait to save the link
<SiFuh>
No, watch it now
<zorz>
poetry ?
<SiFuh>
Plato said it went under he did not say it sunk
<zorz>
what we know is something happen and sea level increased.
<SiFuh>
So it increased?
<SiFuh>
And it covered Atlantis
<SiFuh>
And Atlantis didn't sink it was covered. So it may not be covered now?
<zorz>
maybe they moved... another planet.... maybe the pyramids point towards somewhere
<zorz>
let me watch it
<zorz>
atlantis was before egyptians
<SiFuh>
What if the CIA already knows about it and scanned it?
<zorz>
ppetrov^: is in slackware
<zorz>
most posible yes
<SiFuh>
What if it is so well know they it is used as a land mark for Astronaughts and pilots?
<SiFuh>
Whatch the fucking video
<SiFuh>
Watch
<zorz>
we are speaking 9000 years before plato
<SiFuh>
I also helped him on his research. But not his video. I showed him the ancient maps that he'd uses like a year later
<SiFuh>
11,600
<zorz>
SiFuh: public enemy ?
<SiFuh>
Plato got his knowledge from Egypt
<SiFuh>
No, I read some but I do love ancient maps
<zorz>
greeks travel yes commerce
<SiFuh>
Greeks didn't exist then
<zorz>
knossos
<zorz>
disappeared with santorini
<zorz>
but was after than atlantis
<zorz>
phaistos
<SiFuh>
I am the one who gave him the maps of Ancient Sahara between 14 and 15 hundreds. But he only uses the 15 hundreds in his videos because of the Atlas mountain ranges.
<SiFuh>
And it shows Atlantis and the Atlas mountains together
<SiFuh>
And it isn't in Gibraltar it is BEYOND it
<SiFuh>
Doesn't mean you just sail west through the Atlantic ocean.
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<SiFuh>
It means it can be anywhere after the gates. North, South or West
<zorz>
yes anywhere after the gates
<SiFuh>
Well it is South
<zorz>
people also say the bermuda triagle is because of methane
<SiFuh>
I don't care what they say
<zorz>
CIA
<zorz>
you hack CIA
<zorz>
?
<SiFuh>
Grand Tour filmed there just recently
<zorz>
maps
<SiFuh>
I have hacked NO ONE
<SiFuh>
I am 100% innocent and crime free
<zorz>
now that i remember what they say... ηρακλειες στυλες broke and mediteranean filleda up with water... maybe the sea level in atlantic went low
<SiFuh>
zorz: NO
<zorz>
ok
<SiFuh>
A meteor hit the polar cap and the ice melted instantly and became a massive tsunami. I wiped out many parts of North America including the creation of the Grand Canyon. It took out the land between UK and EU and sunk it. It decimated the middle east, the Sahara and wiped out Atlantis.
<zorz>
this is the final story that i heard
<zorz>
small channels in greek tv with no lisence to play invite univeristy teachers i heard it there.