<remiliascarlet>
zorz: Most Linux distro's nowadays are systemctl. All SysV Init Linux distro's, FreeBSD, and NetBSD are service.
<remiliascarlet>
Void is sv.
<remiliascarlet>
And Artix depends on the init system you went with.
<remiliascarlet>
Gentoo and Alpine are rc-service or something.
<remiliascarlet>
Windows is "please beg Bill Gates to change a setting after getting your 500th booster shot".
<remiliascarlet>
SiFuh: Once Telegram open sources their backend and allows anyone to set up their own server that can federate with one other, I'll consider using Telegram.
<remiliascarlet>
I heard good stories about Signal too when it comes to glowies harassing them, but still won't use them until they let you self host and federate.
<SiFuh>
I don't use Signal because from what I found in my research is it belongs to another company that was considered nefarious. But things are always changing
<SiFuh>
remiliascarlet: Finally got uget-gtk to work
<remiliascarlet>
There is a fork of Signal called "Session", which is P2P and via Tor only. The only problem with that is that they have some very stupid bug with Fcitx for many years, and even though it has been reported and efforts have been made it fix it, it still remains unfixed.
<SiFuh>
remiliascarlet: I have an Aria2 server on the NFS since qBittorrent sucks at downloading since OpenBSD 7.3. I had managed to get Sonarr which is also on the NFS to be able to utilize Aria2 but for some weird reason uget-gtk from my main machine was having trouble accessing it remotely. But finally today it actually works. So now I can take a torrent or a magnet and add it to a GUI here and it will send
<SiFuh>
the info to the NFS and the NFS aria2c will download it.
<remiliascarlet>
Among the BSD's (Free, Open, Net), I'd say that Open is the slowest, no real community, most secure, best hardware support, most stable, best ecosystem of 1st party software, best WiFi support, easiest to install. Free is the least secure, least welcoming community, worst hardware support in general, most performant, best filesystem support, most abundant package manager and ports tree, most
<remiliascarlet>
3rd party developer support. Net is the most buggy, kinda in the middle between Free and Open in terms of performance and security, worst WiFi support, most hardware support*, friendliest community, smallest and most flexible base system, closest to original Unix.
<remiliascarlet>
Also, I found that OpenBSD and NetBSD both install both static (.a) and dynamic (.so) libraries by default for all libraries, which is great.
<remiliascarlet>
FreeBSD and most Linux distro's tend to discriminate against static libraries.
<SiFuh>
The Wi-Fi support in OpenBSD is actually not that good because the signal strength is weaker than Linux's
<SiFuh>
Heh and 7.5 doesn't even support my Wi-Fi
<SiFuh>
ugen1 at uhub1 port 3 "MediaTek Inc. Wireless_Device" rev 2.10/1.00 addr 3
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<SiFuh>
"MediaTek MT7921K" rev 0x00 at pci4 dev 0 function 0 not configured
<remiliascarlet>
Yes, but out of the 3 BSD's, OpenBSD still has the best WiFi support.
<SiFuh>
Yeah, NetBSD and FreeBSD have zero Wi-Fi support because I don't use them
<SiFuh>
Hahaha
<remiliascarlet>
They do, but most laptops I tried didn't work with Net and Free, but Open did.
<remiliascarlet>
Despite the fact that Open doesn't provide any WiFi drivers in the default installation, while the other 2 do.
<SiFuh>
"Despite the fact that Open doesn't provide any WiFi firmware blobs"
<remiliascarlet>
I do software development on all 3 of them + Linux. Somebody publicly explained how to statically link almost anything in C on all 4 of them, which makes it lot easier to develop commercially sellable software in C or C++, or to distribute software to tech illiterate people.
<ppetrov^>
хуй хуй хуй <- I see you already know the basics of all slavic languages
<SiFuh>
:-P
<ppetrov^>
i've seen here somebody wrote in the snow "ХУЙ". Although he was probably a Russian, I kinda felt homesick nevertheless
<SiFuh>
When I was living in Kyrgyzstan, there was a man at the park near my apartment. I heard him calling his dog over in English language. Curiosity got the better of me so I asked him where he was from and he said "here" and I said "Oh okay, I heard you call your dog in English" and he said "Yeah, that's right. I speak to my dog in English that way when I call him over, only he comes and not everyone elses
<SiFuh>
dog."
<SiFuh>
хуем груши околачивать <-- HAHAHAHA
<SiFuh>
чтоб тебе дети в суп срали Haha
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<SiFuh>
zorz: Передай, ёб твою мать, водку!
<lavaball>
did hear aobut the robert koch institution files/
<lavaball>
?
<lavaball>
big german thing right now.
<SiFuh>
What is it?
<lavaball>
the big health and science insitution that eveyrone looked to during the lock down.
<lavaball>
small publication (of course nazis now) have sued them and won so they had to release their documents.
<zorz>
SiFuh: Без горілки
<lavaball>
a lot of it was blacked out, but it was enough in there that showed that masks were bullshit. they knew. the vaccine was bullshit. they knew. the lockdowns were bullshit and ordered by politicians, not doctors.
<SiFuh>
I never understood why people turn to institutions as opposed to looking at nature.
<SiFuh>
zorz: I don't speak Ukrainian
<lavaball>
the mainstream media is running interference of course, claiming it's a scandal that isn't a scandal. < actual headline.
<SiFuh>
Haha
<lavaball>
and the blacked out pages are just to protect the names of employees.
<lavaball>
like almost whole pages. black.
<lavaball>
i know we have long words in german, but our names aren't.
<lavaball>
it's nice to be right thuogh.
<SiFuh>
lavaball: Reminds of the document that was released and it was 100% redacted. Like what was the freaking point of releasing it then? Just a big F.U. to the public.
<lavaball>
it's really dumb to do that. the shit will come out anyway. this just gives it more attention.
<SiFuh>
CDC releases a 148 page document about the long-term study of myocarditis after COVID-19 vaccination and they have redacted every single page
<lavaball>
hahaha
<lavaball>
hahaha
<SiFuh>
Be back later. Going to sell metal so I can buy four cartons of beer
<lavaball>
i wonder what your immunologist has to say about that.
<lavaball>
heavy, i hope.
<ppetrov^>
lavaball, the risk of myocarditis as a result of vaccination is many times smaller than the risk of myocarditis due to covid. That's what I have to say. And, you can stop bringing me up in these conversations. I do not casually mention you "just because", so you can kindly do the same. Peace
<lavaball>
didn't we want to go over why it was illogical to get vaccinated?
<lavaball>
also i don't mention you by name.
<lavaball>
so nothing should get highlighted for you.
<lavaball>
so, wanna go at it? i have a few minutes.
<ppetrov^>
no, we did not say we will go over this. And it is useless to speak with a person like you
<lavaball>
see? brainwashed.
<ppetrov^>
you see what you believe
<ppetrov^>
nope
<lavaball>
i'm open to discrouse.
<lavaball>
you have been trained to not speak to the opposition.
<ppetrov^>
no, you are not
<lavaball>
how am i not? i just said let's tlak about it. you said it's useles to speak with a person like me.
<ppetrov^>
i am not trained at speaking and i am definitely not trained to debunk every single idiotic thing you happen to read online
<lavaball>
i mean... you see how that doesn't really support your logic here, right?
<lavaball>
ohh. so that's your excuse.
<ppetrov^>
don't play "logic" with me man
<lavaball>
you sound like the religious nuts.
<lavaball>
they too give me "i'm not trained to speak about it".
<ppetrov^>
no idea whom you are talking about
<ppetrov^>
i'll say it again: there's nothing i am going to discuss with a guy like you
<lavaball>
anyway, if you weren't trained on speaking and so on, maybe you should have shut your mouth.
<ppetrov^>
believe whatever you want
<lavaball>
remember you were the one who came at me initially.
<ppetrov^>
yep
<lavaball>
it's okay though if you are scared. i get it.
<ppetrov^>
every now and then i get tired of reading bullshit and i make that kistake
<ppetrov^>
i am scared? of what?
<lavaball>
apparenlty the bullshit is so scary, that you can't even talk with the person who said it.
<ppetrov^>
and you can drop the consescending tone
<lavaball>
if you aren't scared, then let's tlak.
<ppetrov^>
i am not going to waste my time with a guy like you
<ppetrov^>
don't you understand that
<ppetrov^>
believe whatever you want
<lavaball>
oh, please. you can ignore me again. what's the difference? you aren't going to talk about it anyway, because your brainwashing doesn't allow it.
<ppetrov^>
i unignored you because, some stuff other said looked weird without the context
<lavaball>
yeah, yet you like telling me that you are not talking to me, and not wasting yoru time on me, and of course you have time to make up excuses "i'm not trained to speak" like a circus monkey.
<ppetrov^>
what exatly would you like to ask me?
<lavaball>
i mean i took you seriously at first, but now you are just pathetic.
<ppetrov^>
i told you my comment on myocarditis
<lavaball>
ask you? i want to explain to you that getting the vaccine was illogical.
<ppetrov^>
go ahed
<ppetrov^>
explain to me
<lavaball>
okay, you know how it take years to get a vaccine approved?
<ppetrov^>
how many years?
<lavaball>
more that it took for the mrna stuff.
<lavaball>
than
<ppetrov^>
how much more?
<ppetrov^>
tell me the years
<ppetrov^>
5? 10? 15?
<lavaball>
oh, you are doing tht "explain woke".
<ppetrov^>
i am asking you a question
<lavaball>
and i told you it doesn't matter. all that matters is that the long term studies weren't done.
<lavaball>
in fact even the acutal studies were stopped, if you read the pfizer documents.
<lavaball>
but that's besidese the point i'm making right now.
<lavaball>
so
<lavaball>
there is a lot of money in vaccines. so if there was a way to get them out sooner they all would do that.
<lavaball>
but they don't, because they can't. it's unsafe.
<lavaball>
ergo the rushed vaccine is unsafe.
<lavaball>
then we have the issue of the effectiveness. not to mention that it sank like every months about 10% until it was not even stopping the trasmission and only brought a "mild case", which has been debunked by a study in austria. though i don't have that available right now. so let's just talk about the effectiveness they told us it would have.
<lavaball>
are you familiar with vaccine encouraged viral mutation?
<lavaball>
there were studies about it reaching 20 years back, where even the good shit eventually makes the virus immune against it.
<ppetrov^>
heh
<lavaball>
i guess as a immunologist person guy, you are familiar why you always have to finish your anti biotics course.
<lavaball>
same here.
<lavaball>
a sub par vaccine will only make the virus stronger. so even if the thing they told us was true, that it had like 80% or seomthing effectiveness, with that we would have only fueled the evolution of the virus.
<lavaball>
so the next logical reason not to take it.
<ppetrov^>
so, you don't know how long it normally takes to approve a vaccine, but you *know* it was too fast. Well, it was a crisis situation, noone knew that much about covid. crisis, desperate times required fast action
<lavaball>
that doesn't change what i said. it's just an excuse.
<ppetrov^>
i agree about the effectiveness, they are not as effective as advertised
<lavaball>
and apparently that fast action was wrong as it turns out. weird that people like me knew that from the get go.
<ppetrov^>
however, this does not make them dangerious. It is definitely better to be vaccinated than to get ill
<lavaball>
which isn't accurate. we now have a excess mortality world wide - but only in the countries where many people got vaccinated.
<ppetrov^>
about viruses getting immune: what you are talking about is adaptation. Well, it can happen. ANtibiotics are very much abused, leading to problems. This does not mean you should not take antibiotics when necessary and that you should not get vaccinated
<ppetrov^>
the eccess mortality is not linked to covid vaccines
<lavaball>
i have my own anecdotal evidence here, that everyone who didn't get the shot is perfectly fine, yet many people i know personally regret it deeply, because of the adverse effects they suffered.
<ppetrov^>
i got the shot
<ppetrov^>
i am fine
<lavaball>
to what is it linked then? it started going up in summer 2021?
<ppetrov^>
never got covid
<ppetrov^>
my wife, who has multiple sclerosis got the shot
<ppetrov^>
no covid and she is fine, apart from her disease
<ppetrov^>
anytthing else from your "research"?
<lavaball>
do you want me to list them all?
<ppetrov^>
and don't give me individual examples
<lavaball>
the people i talked to i mean.
<lavaball>
oh.
<ppetrov^>
write a paper and publish
<lavaball>
didn't you just give me individual examples?
<lavaball>
like "i am fine".
<ppetrov^>
yes, because you started
<ppetrov^>
so, what else?
<ppetrov^>
this discussion good enough for you?
<lavaball>
here i have to say, let's wait. there is more coming out. the paper from japan i posted.
<lavaball>
but i said i will explain it logically to you. which i did.
<lavaball>
you even agreed, said it was rushed. no one knew.
<ppetrov^>
yes, which showed people with cancer and possible explanation about a connection. It was a review paper, just going through literature and doing statistics
<ppetrov^>
do not twist my words
<ppetrov^>
i said it needed to be done fast and it was
<ppetrov^>
40k people died in my country because it is the second lowest vaccinated in the world
<lavaball>
oh, i actually overlooked somethign!
<lavaball>
<ppetrov^> about viruses getting immune: what you are talking about is adaptation. Well, it can happen. ANtibiotics are very much abused, leading to problems. This does not mean you should not take antibiotics when necessary and that you should not get vaccinated
<lavaball>
i never said not to take antibiotics.
<lavaball>
i said not finishing the course was the issue.
<lavaball>
just like a half baked vaccine is.
<ppetrov^>
yes, it can be an issue of course
<lavaball>
because of it's low effectiveness, strengthening the virus.
<ppetrov^>
no, antibiotics and vaccine not the same thing
<ppetrov^>
lavaball, no
<lavaball>
that is correct, but the effect is the same.
<ppetrov^>
effectiveness just does not stay long enough
<ppetrov^>
it's different
<lavaball>
same effect. do you want me to paste the literature?
<ppetrov^>
not the same effect man
<lavaball>
it makes the virus stronger, just like anti bioitics make the bacteria stronger.
<ppetrov^>
it *might* and same applies for other "strong vaccines"
<ppetrov^>
you can't predict it
<lavaball>
i know that low effectiveness is worse for us and good for the virus.
<lavaball>
it's illogical to take a "done fast" and "low effective" shot.
<ppetrov^>
mutations are random through generations. Omicron came from South africa from a population of people, not vacinated and with compromised immunity (guess from what). Where the virus would replicate and replicate withn an individual
<lavaball>
i know you have the sunken cost fallacy going here since you got the shot, but logically speaking you gotta admit, it was dumb getting it. especially with your educational background.
<ppetrov^>
lavaball, no it's not. Because it still protects you. What should've been done was: as many epople as possible to get vaccinated, so it's stopped in time, the spread and all. Also building herd immunity, so people that are vulnerable despite the vaccine, still do not get sick
<lavaball>
of course mutations are random, but the ones immune to the low effective vaccine are being actively helped, by killing the ones that aren't. basic biology.
<lavaball>
actually, we already covered that it doesn't.
<ppetrov^>
"we"?
<lavaball>
the official statement is: doens't protect from trasmission. doesn't protect you from getting it.
<ppetrov^>
so in your "logic" you'd just let it rage rampart and that's it. cool
<lavaball>
if anything, that doesn't even make it a vaccine.
<lavaball>
because vaccines protect from getting it and therefore from transmission.
<ppetrov^>
even the small pox vaccine does not protect from transmission
<ppetrov^>
you can carry it without being sick
<ppetrov^>
lavaball, that is not true
<ppetrov^>
not at all
<ppetrov^>
"basic immunology"
<lavaball>
let me look up the definition of vaccine then. maybe yuo are right.
<ppetrov^>
a, the deffinition, k... look up
<ppetrov^>
i am telling you how things are, but sure, check every letter
<ppetrov^>
anything else you want to ask me?
<ppetrov^>
are we done here?
<lavaball>
that's rich. weren't you the one asking me on how long exactly vaccines need to be tested?
<lavaball>
you are being disingenious.
<ppetrov^>
most countries got vaccinated, did the virus get worse?
<lavaball>
doesn't matter.
<ppetrov^>
no, i asked you how many years
<ppetrov^>
since you claim stuff
<lavaball>
which you later then confirmed.
<lavaball>
you knew they rushed it. yet you pretended it mattered that i knew how long a vaccine needs to get tested.
<lavaball>
that's disingenuous.
<lavaball>
but doesn't matter.
<lavaball>
we were always told, getting vaccinated is to protect those who couldn't get the shot (and i'm talking all vaccines now) for medial reasons, so we can acquire heard immunity.
<lavaball>
now you telling me the chicken pocks wax doesn't actually protect transmission.
<lavaball>
seriously. i'm learning compeltely new things here.
<lavaball>
the whole business is a scam apparently.
<lavaball>
if the argument that i have to take it to protect others falls flat, then nobody ever should be put into a situation where he has to get a shot or lose his job or his freedom even.
<lavaball>
so yeah. thank you so much.
<lavaball>
and i mean that. i didn't know that. and now that i know that i will not get any shot like ever again.
<lavaball>
which you might think was my stance from the get go, but it really wasn't. i even argued pro vaccines like a few years back.
<lavaball>
the whole "protect others" thing was a good point.
<lavaball>
but now.
<lavaball>
fuck this.
<lavaball>
anwyay, now we are done. thanks again.
<lavaball>
unless of course you want to add something else.
<lavaball>
oh, and i promised the literature on viral mutation. here from the description under my video. let me know if the links don't work anymore.
<lavaball>
i'm gonna give yuo that one too, because it's hilarious.
<remiliascarlet>
lavaball: Woke is a very dumb religion.
<lavaball>
Based on what CDC knows now, existing tests used to detect and medications used to treat COVID-19 appear to be effective with this variant. BA.2.86 may be more capable of causing infection in people who have previously had COVID-19 or who have received COVID-19 vaccines.
<lavaball>
anyway, here the cdc says those who had the ccp virus and those were were vaccinated against it are at risk. i didn't have it. i didn't get the shot. so i definitely made the right choice.
<ppetrov^>
k
<lavaball>
you disagree?
<ppetrov^>
yes
<lavaball>
how?
<lavaball>
that's the cdc. or is the cdc wrong now?
<ppetrov^>
what you say is simply not true, about people being vaccinated being at risk
<lavaball>
that's not what i say. that's the cdc.
<lavaball>
i gave you the link.
<ppetrov^>
cdc was wrong for people like you from the very beginning
<lavaball>
that's an exact quote from their website.
<lavaball>
for people like me?
<lavaball>
how does that work?
<remiliascarlet>
lavaball: "Based on what CDC knows now," They always knew, they just won't admit it publicly until they're allowed to do so.
<ppetrov^>
"his sentence has been misinterpreted by some."
<ppetrov^>
like you
<ppetrov^>
Vaccination remains the best available protection against the most severe outcomes of COVID-19, including hospitalization and death. COVID-19 vaccines also reduce the chance of having Long COVID.
<lavaball>
how can it be misinterpreted?
<ppetrov^>
9/20/2023: Clarification on BA.2.86 risk assessment posted on 8/23/2023.
<ppetrov^>
read the paragraph, people wrote it for you
<ppetrov^>
anything else you want to ask me?
<ppetrov^>
i am not intending to convince you in anything. you won't listen
<ppetrov^>
so, was this discussion enough for you?
<lavaball>
how can it be misinterpreted?
<lavaball>
seriously. just writing a contradicting thing below doesn't make the first statement void.
<ppetrov^>
erad the paragraph
<lavaball>
unless they lied.
<ppetrov^>
are we done?
<remiliascarlet>
If anyone still believes in the whole covid hoax, I just have no hope for them.
<lavaball>
i already told you earlier that we were.
<remiliascarlet>
People are just cucks. Willing to give up normal life in exchange of a false sense of "protection".
<lavaball>
remiliascarlet, i'm more confused by them believing what the cdc says. first they say previously infected and vaxxed are at risk, and below they said, doesn't mean the vax is bad.
<lavaball>
not to mention that the hospitalization and death thing also isn't true.
<lavaball>
seriously, just marketing tactics.
<remiliascarlet>
lavaball: Because the CDC is just a mouthpiece of Pfizer, Moderna, and Bill Gates.
<lavaball>
it really seems that way, doesn't it?
<lavaball>
well. it is how it is. our immunologist cured me of all my doubts.
<remiliascarlet>
Watch them swing back and forth from season to season.
<lavaball>
no more chemicals ever.
<ppetrov^>
lavaball, i am not going to convince you in anything
<ppetrov^>
to me the benefits of vaccines are quite fundamental and obvious. I am not going to debunk every single piece of crapp you happen to read online.
<ppetrov^>
or focus on a single sentence, like in the case of CDC's page. Maybe they had poor choice of words. Write them an email and ask, if the extensive clarification was not enough
<ppetrov^>
you mockingly call me "our immunologist", may I ask what's _your_ education?
<ppetrov^>
since, apparently, i don't know shit and i am brainwashed, pathetic, and what else?
<lavaball>
i'm not gonna convince you either. the brainwashing is way past the dryer for that to happen. but i can wait and give you more reading material. things are slowly being uncovered. i'll supply it to you when something reaches me.
<lavaball>
oh, you are being disingeous again.
<ppetrov^>
keep it coming
<lavaball>
my logical explanations didn't require any "crapp i happen to read online".
<lavaball>
you even confirmed what i said. the vaccine was rushed. it wasn't effective, just supposed to protect you from bad cases.
<zorz>
i forsee in year 2030 you will still be talking for covid. :-D
<ppetrov^>
the 'logic' path is not something you take in research. Very often what you discover is not the same as what you assumed by logic
<lavaball>
and i'm not focusing on single sentences either, you though are willing to throw all doubt out of the window to believe your corporate overlords apparenlty.
<lavaball>
otherwise you would have said, yes, that suonds like the right choice was not getting the shot, according to the "poor choice of words" statement.
<ppetrov^>
it was not *as effective*, however it still protects you from a bad case
<lavaball>
but you didn't.
<ppetrov^>
you know we can go in loops like this whole day
<lavaball>
well, the researched proved me right. in my little bubble people around me with the shot have very bad effects reaching from deep vein thrombosis to death, while everyone who didn't get the shot is fine.
<lavaball>
also you seem to try and escape the conversation. "are we done" "are we done" and now "go in loops like this".
<lavaball>
where is the loop?
<lavaball>
i think you made your point plenty.
<ppetrov^>
" in my little bubble people" <- that's statistically significant?
<lavaball>
which only brought me to the conclusion to not trust the cdc (with their maybe poor choice of words) or vaccines in general, since i have been lied to by both.
<ppetrov^>
and i do not try to eskape the conversation, i simply said in the beginning that i have no interest to discuss the matter with a person like you
<ppetrov^>
and stop parroting that 'logic' thing, you do not do research just based on what you 'think'
<lavaball>
yet you did. i'm really grateful.
<ppetrov^>
ancient greeks believed that heavy objects fall faster, because it was so logical
<ppetrov^>
noone bothered to check for hundreds of years
<ppetrov^>
keep you sarcasm to yourself
<lavaball>
as i said, the numbers are in. excess death rate, the adverse effects, all underlined by the media and the politicans being against any kind of transparency.
<lavaball>
don't be gay. i wasn't sarcastic. i'm glad you told me the chicken pox thing. you are the one who keeps attacking me today by the way
<lavaball>
"person like you".
<ppetrov^>
exactly
<ppetrov^>
and I mean it
<ppetrov^>
"person like you"
<lavaball>
of course you do. see that's the difference between us. i might call you a faggot if you act like one, but i will never shy away from any kind of conversation.
<lavaball>
and i don't bring you being brainwashed as i excuse for not talking to you.
<lavaball>
i call it as i see it.
<ppetrov^>
lavaball, believe me there are much many differences between you and I
<ppetrov^>
call it whatever you want
<lavaball>
of course there are. wouldn't be boring if that wasn't the case.
<lavaball>
anyway, i'm really glad we had that discussion.
<ppetrov^>
and I told you about small pox. Chicken pox is sth else
<lavaball>
and i'll keep passing studies and what else comes my way onto you.
<lavaball>
oh, right. i'm sorry. my conscientousness is very low.
<ppetrov^>
your words, not mine
<lavaball>
that's not even debatable.
<lavaball>
that's why i learned to use logic.
<ppetrov^>
don't be too harsh on youself, man
<lavaball>
it's pour. it's simpe.
<lavaball>
l
<lavaball>
seriously, there is no harshness.
<ppetrov^>
logic is fun and all. simply do not rely on it too much when you work in academia
<lavaball>
low conscientousness. do you think i would ever get into academia?
<lavaball>
not that i tried. i doubt it though.
<ppetrov^>
i have no idea
<lavaball>
then again, considering that the "educated" people were all for the vaccine at some point, i think i did alright for myself.
<ppetrov^>
good for you
<lavaball>
even my own doctor finally admitted that i was right.
<lavaball>
and he was a big pusher of the vax.
<ppetrov^>
you must be very persuasive
<lavaball>
well, yeah, but not in that case.
<lavaball>
i only saw him like twice.
<lavaball>
and as i said the numbers are in. he can't deny that.
<lavaball>
which i appreciate. it's tedious trying to fight the monkey brain part.
<lavaball>
or mamal. or what yuo wanna call it. it's not a lizard brain, that i figured out by now.
<lavaball>
fuck. now you got me thinking about my own life.
<lavaball>
i better distract myself or i'll never get out of the self-aggrandizement.
<lavaball>
anyway, thanks again!
<lavaball>
you be safe out there. i hope no adverse effects get you.
<ppetrov^>
keep you wishes to yourself
<lavaball>
why you so hostile now?
<lavaball>
i think what you need is a little more emotional stability. then the little dumb curse words won't make you ignore people right away either.
<lavaball>
that contradicts safe space theory though, but it will lead to a more happier life.
<lavaball>
i mean look at me.
<lavaball>
i'm on top of the world!
<ppetrov^>
seriously, do not tell me what I need
<ppetrov^>
many delusional people are, as well
<ppetrov^>
and i do not appreciate passive agressive remarks, such as your wished about my well being
<lavaball>
correlation, causation. though that's not even true. most delusional people are very depressed. look at the woke.
<lavaball>
the passive aggressiveness comes from your interpretation, which is based on the emotions you are feeling. has nothing to do with what i wrote. i told you earlier that i wasn't sarcastic.
<lavaball>
if you don't believe me, then that's on you. nothing i can do there.
<ppetrov^>
i really do not care
<lavaball>
by the way that's why they invented smilies.
<ppetrov^>
you a psychologist as well?
<lavaball>
so the emotional unstable have a reassurance that the thing they just read wasn't meant as an attack.
<lavaball>
"as well"?
<ppetrov^>
apart from being a statistician (numbers are in), immunologist, and what else?
<lavaball>
i never claimed to be any of these things. it's just you being salty, as the kids say.
<lavaball>
you can't attack me though. remember? top of the world.
<lavaball>
you couldn't touch me if you could fly.
<ppetrov^>
lavaball, you started with attacks at me from the very beginning, calling me names. Of course I will be hostile towards you
<lavaball>
WOW! i always wanted to say that.
<ppetrov^>
don't you understand that?
<lavaball>
that isn't accurate. i started calling you a faggot when yuo disconnected like a faggot.
<lavaball>
so very beginning isn't true.
<lavaball>
and are you that emotionally handicapped that you carry your first impression with your forever?
<lavaball>
people usually change their minds now and then.
<ppetrov^>
my first impression was backed up by the stuff you wrote afterwards and by stuff you had written before
<lavaball>
i mean, sure, i call people names, but from the way i was talking to you the past hour you could have deduced that i have no ill will towards you.
<lavaball>
i'm just very crude.
<lavaball>
so yeah, stop being gay.
<ppetrov^>
man, what a total waste of time
<lavaball>
not for me. so thanks again.
<lavaball>
seriously, i'm gonna tell peopl about this.
<lavaball>
maybe i even mention you in a video.
<lavaball>
that's how excited i am about this conversation.
<lavaball>
super nice!
<lavaball>
actually!
<lavaball>
since i still have you here. you could help with something else.
<ppetrov^>
i would kindly ask you not to get me involved in your videos
<ppetrov^>
no, i do not plan to interact with you
<lavaball>
i have a 22 year old half breed virgin ready, but she has been vaxxed. do you know where i could test her for mrna? as in if she's still contagious?
<ppetrov^>
keep me out of your videos and do not refer to me
<lavaball>
yes you do. you said it before, and here we are. i think you might even start to like me.
<ppetrov^>
oh boy, we have a psycho
<lavaball>
well, i was trying to be funny.
<ppetrov^>
you are not
<lavaball>
i guess you aren't in a joking mood.
<lavaball>
why are you so upset?
<lavaball>
i thought we were very productive here.
<ppetrov^>
and I am going to ask you again politely: do not talk about me, refer to me or in any way involve me in your videos or whatever else you do
<lavaball>
still, do you know where i could have her tested?
<ppetrov^>
i won't even bother to answer this
<lavaball>
haha, i wanted to make a video about that as well. you know, get the public to look for a laboratory for me.
<ppetrov^>
what do you imagine that the mRNA does?
<lavaball>
like, now i think i really have to bring you up and how it's difficult to get someone qualified to test for it, since you are all beholden to your corporate overlords.
<lavaball>
it changes shit so it then produces more spike protein.
<lavaball>
which leads to infections, sometimes in places where you don't want them, like the heart or the brain.
<lavaball>
not that that matters.
<lavaball>
have i not already pasted the paper of the french girl?
<lavaball>
anwyay, why you so scared about being mentioned in my video?
<lavaball>
i don't even know you. no picture or name even.
<lavaball>
what do you think will happen there?
<ppetrov^>
i do not like it and it is not the right thing to do on your part
<lavaball>
well, the right thing might be something else to someone of "people like me" or "psychos".
<lavaball>
so that doesn't buy you anything.
<SiFuh>
Damn! Aluminum 6 MYR per KG. 1.18 Euro. Nice price
<lavaball>
tell me why you don't like it though.
<ppetrov^>
i prefer to keep my conversations here, that's all
<lavaball>
again, why?
<lavaball>
you know how "why" works, right?
<ppetrov^>
because i do not want to be the center of attention of another nutjobs like you
<ppetrov^>
however, the log is publicly available, so technically you can do whatever you want with it.
<lavaball>
i do anyway. why wouldn't i? though then again the question is, how would the nutjobs like me find you? if push comes to shove you can just change your nick and you are gone .... gone ..... gone.
<ppetrov^>
apparently you do not understand how it works when womeone asks you not to do something
<ppetrov^>
"how would the nutjobs like me find you" <- what exactly will happen then?
<ppetrov^>
who I am is not a secret
<lavaball>
it is to me.
<lavaball>
who are you then?
<ppetrov^>
want a link to my online CV?
<lavaball>
sure.
<lavaball>
why not.
<lavaball>
?
<ppetrov^>
after that conversation, that's a no
<lavaball>
haha
<lavaball>
hahahaha
<lavaball>
why did you ask then?
<lavaball>
hahaha
<lavaball>
you are a ridiculous little feller.
<lavaball>
i hope you stick around. highly entertaining.
<ppetrov^>
pushing hygiene too much is also not such a good idea, like some theories about allergies state that
<SiFuh>
ppetrov^: Come on, it's funny and logical
<ppetrov^>
oh boy, new favourite word "logical"
<SiFuh>
ppetrov^: That is why I refused to have my surgery done in Western countries. I had my surgery peformed in Thailand.
<SiFuh>
Hehe logical is a good word to be favorite
<ppetrov^>
well, when it comes to *surgery*, better have it sterile :P
<SiFuh>
Don't trust Western hospitals because they over abuse the use of antibiotics. Golden Staff isn't a nice thing to have.
<ppetrov^>
S. aureus?
<SiFuh>
Staph not staff
<SiFuh>
Yeah
<SiFuh>
In Australia they just kind of name all super bacteria Golden Staph
<ppetrov^>
heh
<SiFuh>
They used so much anti-biotics in hospitals for cleaning walls and floors and toilets and using them on patients that they said the bacteria was becoming immune and turning into super bugs.
<ppetrov^>
man, nobody cleans the walls with antibiotics...
<SiFuh>
My friend in highschool broke his arm and every few months he is cut open to suck the infection out. They can't get rid of it. Or so he says.
<ppetrov^>
otherways, yep, bacteria exchange plasmids that carry resistence genes
<SiFuh>
He has a massive scar the full length of his forearm on both sides of the forearm
<ppetrov^>
sounds horrible
<SiFuh>
I don't understand why it would be every few months. You'd think it would need to be sucked out daily.
<SiFuh>
I met another guy who has an infected hole in is arm too. He said it is Golden Staph. He takes a beer bottle. Lights some paper and shoves it in the beer bottle. Puts the mouth of the bottle over the hole and it sucks out a huge cylinder of puss. He does it daily and sometimes twice a day.
<SiFuh>
He says during summer he has to do it more
<ppetrov^>
disgusting
<ppetrov^>
poor guy
<SiFuh>
Yes, hence the reason, I chose to go to a government hosptial in Thailand. Not only are they the best at bone reconstructive surgery, there is no Golden Staph there
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<lavaball>
seriously, my half-breed is such a good girl.
<lavaball>
does whatever i tell you.
<lavaball>
i really don't get why you are all complaining so much about the jews.
<lavaball>
does whatever i tell her. like that.
<lavaball>
i really need the mrna test capabilities.
<ppetrov^>
mRNA gets degraded pretty fast. Whoever you are talking about in such a degrading way, she won't "transfer" any mRNA to you.
<lavaball>
oh, she loves it too. she's busy studying right now, but i'll can let you know what she thinks about me talking about her that way.
<lavaball>
anyway, they still found spike protein ... i wanna say years, i'm not sure, but definitely 6 months later inside people.
<lavaball>
also the mrna in the breast milk concerns me.
<lavaball>
i want this tested. i'm not taking any risk.
<ppetrov^>
she breastfeeding?
<lavaball>
no. there was an article saying mrna in breastmilk.
<lavaball>
i'm sure there were multiple publications that mentioned that.
<lavaball>
so if it gets there, it can get anywhere.
<ppetrov^>
trace quantity, translational activity absent, 45h post-vaccination and finally: most breastfeeding women have been excluded from vaccination
<lavaball>
"enhanced infant protection". yeah, right. i've been around long enough to know what it means if the media spins something that positive.
<lavaball>
so?
<lavaball>
like especially the last part. what does that buy you? okay, they only tested a few?
<lavaball>
if they had tested one and found it that would have been enough for me.
<ppetrov^>
no, means that "just in case" it has not been given to breastfeeding women
<ppetrov^>
and it's 45h after the shot
<lavaball>
yeah. more research needed. that's what i'm doing here basically.
<lavaball>
i want this tested, otherwise i'm not gonna put my dick in her virgin ... anything basically.
<lavaball>
fant at risk of getting COVID by not getting vaccinated or boosted.”
<ppetrov^>
*you* are not doing any "research", man
<ppetrov^>
do you imagine people keep producing mRNA for the spike protein, again and again?
<lavaball>
giving my infant the ccp virus? isn't it scietific consent that kids were never at risk?
<lavaball>
i don't image. i don't know.
<lavaball>
that's why i want it tested.
<ppetrov^>
ah, you know. OK
<lavaball>
hm?
<ppetrov^>
nothing
<lavaball>
seriously, for someone that educated you act quite childish.
<ppetrov^>
the mRNA codes for a fraction of the spike protein, you know that?
<lavaball>
i didn't.
<ppetrov^>
you serious?
<ppetrov^>
codes for a part, the one mostly exposed. And the spike is just one of the viral proteins
<lavaball>
in fact i don't know much about the inner workings at all. except that the mrna wasn't tested. it got everywhere, not just the arm. it tells the body to produce the spike protein. the spike protein can be very dangerous.
<ppetrov^>
the one that helps it attach to the host cell
<ppetrov^>
it does not go everywhere
<lavaball>
it does!
<lavaball>
as we've seen in the study. it is found in breast milk.
<lavaball>
how did it get there?
<ppetrov^>
the liposomes stay in your arm where they are taken up by the Antigen presenting Cells, or APCs
<ppetrov^>
traces
<lavaball>
that's what they told us.
<ppetrov^>
in isolated cases
<lavaball>
oh please.
<ppetrov^>
typically it just stays in the muscle tissue
<lavaball>
i don't care. how do i know she isn't one of those isolated cases?
<lavaball>
so yeah, i'm doing "research" concerning my one subject.
<lavaball>
maybe you want to look up was research actually means.
<lavaball>
i'm researching if she's contagious or not.
<ppetrov^>
she is not "contageous"
<ppetrov^>
geez, what a poor choice of words...
<lavaball>
well, i said "contagious". it's spelled with an 'i'.
<lavaball>
and that's the perfect word to describe it.
<ppetrov^>
and as I said, mRNA degrades fast, so even if hypothetically your gf would be one of them "isolated" cases, she was vaccinated long ago and there won't be any mRNA produced
<ppetrov^>
the mRNA you are so worried about
<lavaball>
i believe it when i see the test results.
<lavaball>
also she isn't my girlfriend. term is slave girl.
<ppetrov^>
"term is slave girl"
<ppetrov^>
i see
<lavaball>
i have no intentions of breeding her, since the spike protein accumulates in the ovaries.
<ppetrov^>
well, this time I am done. For good.
<lavaball>
oh, you have a problem with other people's preferences?
<lavaball>
figures.
<SiFuh>
ppetrov^: I bought a kilo of glycine and I was giving it to the wife in small amounts to see how it effects her glucose levels. Seems to have zero effect. So I have given her a bottle to take to work so she can try in her coffee. I told her she needs to monitor her glucose levels like a hawk to see how it goes.
<SiFuh>
I have a friend who goes to the gymn regulary and he was told by his trainer that if he doesn't wish to feel sore the next day or two to take glycine. So I bought it for me and when I tasted it, it was sweet like sugar. My friend said that it is very sweet. So I thought, might be a good idea for the wife to try since she is not to consume sugar.
<ppetrov^>
glycine is the simplest amino acid
<ppetrov^>
no idea what it tastes like
<SiFuh>
Almost table sugar with a strage chemical aftertaste
<SiFuh>
strage/strange*
<ppetrov^>
heh
<SiFuh>
My friend says it really works at stopping the pain after a workout. I don't know how heavy he trains but I even though, I do like the pain because it makes me feel like I have done something manly. Hahaha. I said, I will experiment and see if it works.
<lavaball>
pain after a workout?
<lavaball>
you mean soreness the next day?
<SiFuh>
I, even though,*
<SiFuh>
Yes lavaball
<lavaball>
i don't know if that's a good idea. if it doesn't hurt, the body will not make it a priority.
<remiliascarlet>
SiFuh: I tried to make pork bone broth after eating spare ribs. Tastes almost exactly like hot water after 10 hours cooking.
<lavaball>
that's why you aren't supposed to stretch during soreness, because it tells the body: stretch pain = can ignore.
<SiFuh>
remiliascarlet: Simmering right?
<remiliascarlet>
Did I do something wrong here?
<remiliascarlet>
What is simmering?
<SiFuh>
low temperature but high enough to see the slight movement in the water
<remiliascarlet>
Yes.
<remiliascarlet>
Also, am I supposed to cover the jar while cooking, or leave it open?
<remiliascarlet>
Because I covered it.
<SiFuh>
Put some in the refrigerator and see if it sets like jelly and a layer of lard on the surface the next day
<SiFuh>
remiliascarlet: Doesn't matter. Open or close. You aren't make seasoned broth, so yeah it will probably taste like water.
<SiFuh>
remiliascarlet: I do mine 24 hours.
<SiFuh>
But I season it for my taste.
<SiFuh>
lavaball: I agree. I think the body tells you shit for a reason ;-)
<remiliascarlet>
I think I will fair the broth this time. But as I usually say, one has to fail in order to succeed.
<remiliascarlet>
First time you'll destroy your cake, second time your cake will be OK, and third time it'll be a piece of cake.
<SiFuh>
As long as you extracted stuff out, you did it right.
<SiFuh>
Also, you should use a lot of bones
<SiFuh>
[ppetrov^> would be nice if httpup-repgen ignored index.html
<SiFuh>
echo "\.html$" >> ~/.httpup-repgen-ignore
<ppetrov^>
well, I made .httpup-repgen-ignore, emm... ignore it
<ppetrov^>
yes
<SiFuh>
Time for some vodka
<lavaball>
oh, here about the vaccine brings cancer thing. that's the guy in the interview. so someone that's not me, as in well educated in the field:
<lavaball>
Professor Angus Dalgleish, (Fellow of the Royal College of Physicians, Fellow of the Royal College of Pathologists, Fellow of Medical Science.)
<lavaball>
Professor Dalgleish is a highly experienced doctor, physician, medical teacher, medical author and researcher with over 500 primary research publications.
<lavaball>
He was also a pioneering researcher into HIV/AIDS.
<lavaball>
Here we discuss the recently observed changes in cancer presentations and deaths. Some of the discussion considers this research paper noting excess cancer deaths in Japan.
<remiliascarlet>
lavaball: All I notice here is an excess amout of ambulance sirens every single day.
<lavaball>
really?
<lavaball>
i just have my growing list of not death events.
<lavaball>
only one guy in my street died of heart failure shortly after getting the shot.
<lavaball>
oh, right the owner of my old gym too. shot, jogging, dead.
<SiFuh>
remiliascarlet: Same here. More than normal but it is a small country.
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<remiliascarlet>
lavaball: Yeah, ambulances have become a very common sight everywhere, but whether somebody is dead, severely ill, or something else I don't know, because I just don't care. But sometimes I just say "the intended effects of the covid vaccine are on display" out loud as I pass by.
<lavaball>
and in japanese!
<lavaball>
you'd be wrong though.
<lavaball>
they didn't plan for this.
<lavaball>
too much liability.
<lavaball>
they were just greedy.
<SiFuh>
lavaball: Who didn't plan for this?
<lavaball>
the people profitting from the vaccine. pfizer and the mrna patent holders.
<lavaball>
see, there was a lot of research done with the mrna stuff. lot's of resources pumped in, but they didn't bring a profit. so this "pandemic" was the perfect way to force their useless product onto the masses.
<SiFuh>
They planned it. They all worked together to conspire. They had been planning it for almost half a decade.
<lavaball>
not the vaccine side effects.
<lavaball>
what they are planing towards is the control of the population.
<SiFuh>
Everytime they tested mRNA injections on animals it would end up with a 100% death rate. University of Texas when testing it said that this should never be used on humans and the trials were ended.
<lavaball>
i don't think so. if they wanted people dead there are easier ways to accomplish that.
<SiFuh>
lavaball: There are different version of the same injection. They can't just kill everyone on earth in one hit. Those who didn't injected would hunt them down and tear them to pieces. So they made placebos, and different version that enhance symptoms that people already had, introduce new symptoms. They wanted a small group to die straight away, some a few months later, and large group to get sick and
<SiFuh>
rely on the health system so they can use you for money until you are dead and the rest got placebos.
<SiFuh>
They also wanted to plan constant injections up to 10 a year. That way you break the Social Credit Score, they can terminate you.
<lavaball>
yeah, i don't buy it.
<SiFuh>
The original name for it was "The great culling"
<SiFuh>
Check out this episode of 'Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura Season 1 Episode 5 - Secret Societies' from 31 Dec 2009
<SiFuh>
"They're thought to be a group of the world's elite who meet once a year at a luxury hotel and decide how they will run the world. It's believed they plan to thin out the population through disease-and vaccines. Jesse Ventura infiltrates the Bilderberg Group."
<lavaball>
anyway, something else for our immunologist:
<lavaball>
(16:33:30) tulan: yeah i_m not your girlfriend
<lavaball>
(16:33:37) tulan: i don_t know what else to say
<lavaball>
(16:34:25) tulan: of course
<lavaball>
(16:34:28) lavaball: say that.
<lavaball>
(16:34:15) lavaball: do you like being my slave girl and to obey me?
<lavaball>
(16:34:47) tulan: i like being your slave girl efendim
<lavaball>
(16:34:54) tulan: i like obeying you
<lavaball>
just giving the bitches what they want.
<lavaball>
if there are nano bots in there, i tell you!
<SiFuh>
Hahaha, I don't really believe in that, but if so, I wouldn't be surprised.
<lavaball>
now sterility i could believe.
<SiFuh>
Yes, that I am aware of since the 80's
<lavaball>
still, on that big of a scale, i doubt it.
<SiFuh>
Nature always finds a way to survive
<SiFuh>
So they can give you 100% a killer or sterile shot and still many people will survive and still get babies
<lavaball>
nah.
<lavaball>
i still don't buy it.
<lavaball>
especially since i've seen the narrative unfold. they aren't "evil" per se, which this would require.
<lavaball>
they rather nudge us into the pods towards the bug dinner.
<lavaball>
think like the machines in the matrix.
<lavaball>
and the funny thing is, most people prefer a golden cage to their bleak real life.
<SiFuh>
But they are evil.
<lavaball>
nobody is really evil, becuase there is no good or evil.
<SiFuh>
Evil is the absences of good
<lavaball>
what is good, what is evil?
<remiliascarlet>
lavaball: "they were just greedy." Exactly what I've been saying all the time.
<lavaball>
if you use your lady brain you'll realize what's good to you might be evil to someone else.
<remiliascarlet>
They even used very classic drug dealer tactics. First you scare the people into taking the injections, then you bribe them, then you discriminate against those who refused... And then you attach a price tag to it.
<SiFuh>
lavaball: So you'd say harvesting adrenochrome isn't evil?
<SiFuh>
Not to many guys throw in a 6 minute solo for fun
<dlcusa>
Mark's one of the best ever and his solos are not boring. The rest of the band, let alone the crowds, have no quarrel with long solos.
<SiFuh>
He did some awesome stuff when he went solo. And when he went to country music it wasn't so bad, but I don't think he suited country.
<SiFuh>
Not like Darius Rucker from Hootie & the Blowfish who went country and still made some awesome stuff
<SiFuh>
I liked Pink Floyd's concepts after they decided to not proceed with Pop Music any longer. 'Let the music play and let it go on. It will end when it is ready to end'. Leaving us with songs that were over 20 minutes long ;-)
<SiFuh>
I find it insteresting that Donald Trump often refers to himself as Trump. Which is a cool family name
<SiFuh>
remiliascarlet: Moss doesn’t really have enough calories to keep you alive as you would need to eat a lot of it to get the necessary calories, but eating raw mosses is extremely hard on your body as we are not herbivores and our stomach is not made to digest and break down leaf matter as efficiently as herbivores do. On the other hand, some mosses are actually considered very healthy and even sold as
<SiFuh>
a weight-loss supplement, like the Irish moss.
<SiFuh>
Then I am going to sleep because I got a shit load of work to do tomorrow. Already 02:38
<SiFuh>
I had a 25 KG bag of dirt to get rid of. So I drove to a construction site to dump it with the rest of their dirt. It was so funny. Wife is saying "You can't be here, this project belongs to other people". "But I am here". "Yes but you are not insured if there is an accident". "Nice, since everyone is home except those two guys eating in that house over there and that security guy on the other side of
<SiFuh>
the road looking at us". "Yeah but you shouldn't be here". "What are they going to do? Call the police for giving them a bag of dirt?"
<SiFuh>
zorz: Tim Taylor walks into a restaurant and the guy says 'buongiorno'. Tim replies "No, Taylor. Tim Taylor" then he turns to his wife and says "It's unbelievable how many guys think I'm this buongiorno guy."
<zorz>
hahaha
<zorz>
SiFuh: i ve being coding the all day
<zorz>
at the end you know what i did? I reinstall emacs HAHAHAHA
<SiFuh>
I've been painting, driving, selling metal, doing electrical work and drinking beer all day
<SiFuh>
Bit pissed off that I recieved 6 MYR for Aluminium though. Good but when the Aluminium price is 3 times higher it should not be 6 MYR. It should be 18 MYR per kilo
<SiFuh>
Good thing I only gave them 4KG ;-)
<zorz>
fuckin hell..... 4KG?
<zorz>
4KG in aluminium is alot
<SiFuh>
No
<SiFuh>
That is like nothing for me
<zorz>
ok you know better
<SiFuh>
48.5 KG, 40KG, 32 KG, (Now we reach the wife complaining part) 4 KG, 8 KG, 10.5 KG, and 4KG
<SiFuh>
I sell Tin, Stainless steel, Aluminium, Plastic, Led Acid Batteries, Printers, Photocopiers, Landline phones, Cardboard, Newspaper and so on.
<zorz>
bravo
<SiFuh>
But usually Aluminium is my largest product
<SiFuh>
I got a lot more, but I didn't tell the wife :-P
<SiFuh>
I am waiting for the prices to rise so I can get a better deal
<SiFuh>
The only one I don't sell is copper.
<zorz>
why copper not ?
<SiFuh>
I can use it for many things and it is worth a lot here
<SiFuh>
Actually, I should be recieving a shipment of copper today if they remember
<SiFuh>
I want to buy a smelting furnace to make 1KG bricks of aluminium and copper
<SiFuh>
I didn't to pull out the BMX and jump on the deadly treadly to buy myself.
<SiFuh>
She is like "Cannot beleive". She wants to see a video of me starting a fire using a tampon.
<SiFuh>
Hope they are the cotton version
<SiFuh>
If not, I will be selling tampons to the ladies int he jungle
<dlcusa>
Mark's one of the best ever and his solos are not boring. The rest of the band, let alone the crowds, have no quarrel with long solos.
<dlcusa>
Oops, sorry for the noise.
<SiFuh>
dlcusa: Thanks
<SiFuh>
HAHAHA
<dlcusa>
That was an unintended replay.
<SiFuh>
dlcusa: I love it when people appreciate Mark Knopfler. You can repeat that daily and I will be happy.
<dlcusa>
Not that many use fingerstyle (well) on an electric.
<SiFuh>
The otherday was talking to the wife and she asked me "Who do you think the greatest guitar player is?" I said "Many say Hendrix, but I put Knopfler as number one. There are many good guitarists. I'd have to say Brad Paisley is close to number 2 but he aint number 2."
<SiFuh>
dlcusa: I find the most difficult thing with musicians is fitting in with the musical rythm. That chick above I posted doing 'Going Home' ruined the song by spamming it with extra notes. The song wasn't meant to ever be that way.
<dlcusa>
SiFuh, have you ever listened to Guthrie Govan? On frettless guitar?
<SiFuh>
I am sure I have
<SiFuh>
Yeah, I know this guy
<dlcusa>
Danny Gatton? Roy Buchannan? They were local to me.
<SiFuh>
Only because I like Arlo Guthrie's music and he has popped up a few times in the searches
<SiFuh>
Danny Gatton i know
<SiFuh>
Danny Gatton, I am sure I didn't know but I do. Roy Buchannan I know
<SiFuh>
I don't consider their styles music to be honest
<dlcusa>
They all have their unique strengths and weaknesses, so it's a lot like comparing apples to oranges.
<SiFuh>
Depends
<dlcusa>
Boils down to I know what I like.
<SiFuh>
A skillful noise ain't music
<dlcusa>
How the music makes you feel is so much more inportant.
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<SiFuh>
I hate the Beatles music. Except for the song "Don't Pass Me By" But Jeff Healey did a fantastic version of "While My Guitar Gently Weeps"
<SiFuh>
Sometimes a shit musician can create a shit song, and someone just makes it heaps better because they genuinely are more talented
<dlcusa>
Absolutely. Some can't recognize what makes stuff good to a wide cross-section of listeners.
<SiFuh>
Back in 2003, I was given a massive stack of CDs to listen to. All Thai music. They wanted to prove that Thai music was the best. I was going through CD's like nothing
<SiFuh>
In the entire pile. I managed to find two bands that I thought were good. Micro and Assanee Wassan. To this day, I have ALL of Assanee Wassan because their stuff is unbelievable
<ppetrov^>
SiFuh, sometimes a cover is better than the original. But still, someone created the original, right? thought up the lyrics, composed the tune
<ppetrov^>
The man who sold the world by Nirvana is better than David Bowie's
<SiFuh>
ppetrov^: Agree
<ppetrov^>
Working class hero by Green day is better than Lenon's
<SiFuh>
ppetrov^: Yeah like Gus Cannon's Walk right in. And Dr Hook made a fortune from it.
<SiFuh>
ppetrov^: Sometimes both are awesome. The Who - Behind Blue Eyes. Limp Bizkit - Behind Blue Eyes. Both awesome
<SiFuh>
dlcusa: The tall slim brother loves love music. The shorter brother with the water melon head loves heavy metal. So they sometimes compromise and cross styles.
<SiFuh>
ppetrov^: First time I heard Ganster's Paradise was on the plane back from the US.
<SiFuh>
I bought the CD the moment I recovered from Jet Lag
<SiFuh>
Dangerous Minds I think was the name of the movie?
<ppetrov^>
well Dangerous Mind was a hit movie back then
<ppetrov^>
yep
<ppetrov^>
:)
<SiFuh>
Was there a Michelle Pfiefer or something?
<ppetrov^>
yes
<SiFuh>
Pulling stones out of my head to remember that
<SiFuh>
Excellent movie
<ppetrov^>
i watched it quite late, though
<ppetrov^>
yes, it is
<SiFuh>
Movies today are just vomit
<ppetrov^>
many are
<SiFuh>
I watched Civil War by the way. Been waiting for it for a long time.
<SiFuh>
I still have no idea why they wanted to kill the president and why all the good guys were nail polish, blue and green haired faggots with guns
<dlcusa>
When you stop to think about all the different genres constantly appearing and evolving, it can be overwhelming.
<SiFuh>
Or why California and Texas united and owned all the soldiers.
<ppetrov^>
i have not seen that film
<SiFuh>
dlcusa: Told my wife today when I was selling metal. There was a guy in my taxi. An older gent. He said "Oh no, fucking country music. Change the station man" So I asked him what he liked. He said Rock and Roll dude!. So I changed it for him. He loved the song and asked me who the singer was. I said "He is a famous American Country singer"
<SiFuh>
Hahahahahahaha
<SiFuh>
It is amazing that people don't know that American Country has so many genres that you can cover everything. Jessta James, Colt Ford, The Moonshine Band, these are hip hop and country rappers.
<SiFuh>
Although Jessta James has kind of moved towards a new style of country recently
<dlcusa>
I remember getting a classical guy to listen to Bohemian Rhapsody for the first time who discovered rock and roll could be "music"--he was astonished how he liked it.
<dlcusa>
It doesn't hurt Sir Brian has a doctorate in astrophysics.
<SiFuh>
dlcusa: I can't really get into Pop or Reggae
<dlcusa>
That's okay--many can and do.
<SiFuh>
I can even find some death metal songs I like but I can't with reggae
<SiFuh>
I love rap, hip hop, blues, jazz, I fucking love soul music, huge country fan, classic rock, rock, heavy metal... But reggae? Never found one I liked
<SiFuh>
Pop is just annoying
<SiFuh>
I told my wife Pop = fashion.
<SiFuh>
Also a big fan of punk rock. The Offspring!!!!
<ppetrov^>
heh
<ppetrov^>
i like Offspring
<ppetrov^>
i hate hiphob/rap with 2 exceptions
<ppetrov^>
Artillery by Infected Mushroom being one
<SiFuh>
ppetrov^: I like the older stuff not the new shit
<ppetrov^>
for me it's up till "The kids aren't all right"
<SiFuh>
Wait, I looked for the magic mushroom faggot patrol thing
<SiFuh>
Artillery Infected Mushroom
<SiFuh>
ppetrov^: ^ Not bad.
<SiFuh>
dlcusa: I know this song. Hahah
<dlcusa>
Zappa was a genius. Now we've got Jacob Collier.
<SiFuh>
Frank Zappa?
<dlcusa>
Indeed.
<SiFuh>
That must be why I know it
<SiFuh>
My father is from RI. He is a Bob Dylan fan. But most of his stuff I have heard
<SiFuh>
He hates Country Music. Hahahaha
<SiFuh>
Always asks me what songs he should learn to play on the guitar and all my answers dissapoint him.
<zorz>
SiFuh: packing my stuff!!! :))))))0
<SiFuh>
zorz: I am not packing your stuff :-PPPPPPPP0
<ppetrov^>
:)
<ppetrov^>
night
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<SiFuh>
lavaball: The amino acid is not working. I have intense soreness now, like normal. The reason I said I'd test it for my friend is because I do an extreme workout every 7 to 9 days. I take one day to do the exercises for 12 hours with many breaks and run myself into the ground. Similar to Mike Mentzers style but a bit more extreme as well as not so extreme. Hard to explain