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<ixelp> Quicklisp news: October 2023 Quicklisp dist update now available
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<Shinmera> dangit, a bunch of my libs didn't get in.
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<NotThatRPG> I'm stumped by what's probably a dumb mistake: I have a buildapp application (on SBCL) where I write two blocks of output to stdout. But when I redirect the output (in the shell) only the first block is written to the output file: the second block is written to the console.
<NotThatRPG> Is there something I could be doing that is somehow closing stdout and then re-opening it?
<NotThatRPG> In both cases the output is written to T
<NotThatRPG> Note that I call FORCE-OUTPUT -- could that be the problem?
<beach> What if you call FINISH-OUTPUT instead?
<NotThatRPG> Actually, no, I call FINISH-output, which should be fine
<beach> Oh, OK.
<NotThatRPG> (I called FORCE-OUTPUT somewhere else, on a different branch)
<NotThatRPG> I'd just skip the finish-output, but it seems to be necessary to ensure the output comes out in the right order. Otherwise the output from PPRINT has output from a following FORMAT statement interposed.
<NotThatRPG> Better make sure I have the most recent SBCL release...
<pfdietz> Are they printing to the same lisp stream?
<NotThatRPG> pfdietz: they are both printing to T
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<NotThatRPG> The thing I was wondering was whether FINISH-OUTPUT could be causing this - whether it could be flushing something that "turns off" the redirection.
<pfdietz> And is *standard-output* the same for both?
<NotThatRPG> pfdietz: I'm not sure what you mean -- I have a single lisp process, it writes 2 blocks of output to T. I guess you are saying I should check and see what *standard-output* is immediately before and after each write?
<pfdietz> If you didn't assign to or rebind it, it's probably not the problem.
<NotThatRPG> pfdietz: No, didn't touch it.
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<beach> NotThatRPG: T means different things for FORMAT and PRINT.
<NotThatRPG> beach: Thanks! I will research!
<beach> NotThatRPG: So are you using FORMAT in one case and PRINT in the other?
<NotThatRPG> Yes, PPRINT and FORMAT
<beach> There you go.
<beach> For FORMAT, T is *STANDARD-OUTPUT*. For PRINT it is *TERMINAL-IO* (I think).
<NotThatRPG> I see! Thanks, beach -- that would have taken me HOURS to figure out
<NotThatRPG> You are, indeed right -- it's *terminal-io*
<beach> Sure.
<pfdietz> "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds" -- Emerson
<beach> NotThatRPG: Try NIL for PPRINT.
<pfdietz> Referring to the CL standardizers (in a friendly way), not to you, NotThatRPG.
<pfdietz> (nodding to SORT which should have been NSORT)
<beach> ... and MAKUNBOUND that should have been UNSET.
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<NotThatRPG> Ouch, yes, that's a real oddball decision.
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