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<Josh_2>
:trumpet:
<Josh_2>
Slow day
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<nature>
ok, so I've been experimenting a bit with snooze for a restful http server I wanna do in CL, but I've been running into quite a few issues, I had to patch snooze myself to be able to set arbitrary http headers in responses, I am currently facing another issue where I want both nested routes and query parameters which is impossible without some more convoluted code: https://github.com/joaotavora/snooze/issues/19#issuecomment-1054981744
<nature>
And lastly when I run a server and try to recompile a route to which I modified the signature, I am forced to restart the whole lisp and reload the server, so this completely kills the flow for me... which is the reason why I chose CL for this project, the interactivity and live interactions with the running image
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<nature>
I really like the concept of snooze, but its shortcommings are starting to pile up, any other recommendation for similar type of rounting on top of clack?
<nature>
ningle seems to be a bit too simplistic and will probably become very verbose once I start to process forms input for instance
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<Shinmera>
I'll have a slightly more impressive demo tomorrow, probably
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<nature>
this is a nintendo switch?
<Shinmera>
yes.
<nature>
:o
<nature>
very cool!
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<LispTyro>
Shinmera: wow
<LispTyro>
awesome :)
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<nature>
does that mean kandria on switch?
<Shinmera>
well, there's still quite a bit to go, but that's the goal.
<nature>
damn!
<Shinmera>
it's been a huge hassle so far, but I can't really talk about any of it
<Shinmera>
(really, I should not even be showing you that video, but w/e)
<nature>
I can imagine, but that's frankly amazing
<Pixel_Outlaw>
Lisp on console again. Very nice.
<Pixel_Outlaw>
Probably been a while since Naughty Dog.
<Shinmera>
technically lisp was never on console since ND's lisp was statically compiled ;)
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<Pixel_Outlaw>
Does Nintendo do dev kit stuff? Or how does that work?
<Pixel_Outlaw>
I guess maybe that's a 90s thing. :P
<Shinmera>
anyway, yeah. from here the challenges remaining are getting GC details sorted, testing the OS interfacing libraries, optimising everything so it actually runs on this potato, and finally making whatever licensing requirements they have.
<Shinmera>
Consoles still have dev kits
<Shinmera>
you can't install arbitrary software on retail
<Shinmera>
MS tried the "any console can be a dev kit" for a bit but went back on that again.
<Pixel_Outlaw>
Yeah, I recall some of that around Xbox (360?)
<Shinmera>
Xbox One
<Pixel_Outlaw>
How much does a guy pay to get into Switch development.
<Shinmera>
The biggest hurdle isn't the money, it's getting through their application and being accepted. Plenty of my indie pals got rejected over and over with no real reason given (while the eshop is flooded with trash)
<Shinmera>
After that a standard devkit is about 500 bux.
<Shinmera>
anyway, that cost is completely dwarfed by the cost of hiring experts like Charles to do the actual SBCL porting work :)