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<hayley> jobhdez: It might help if you are GC bound at the moment. Run some code under TIME and it will tell you how much time is spent in GC.
<jobhdez> hello hayley -- thanks  a lot for your great work. im currently reading your paper. thanks a lot
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<hayley> The paper was written before I implemented compaction, so your results may vary. In particular less time is spent scavenging and sweeping, and core files are smaller than before (but still larger than with gencgc).
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<ixelp> kons 9 Teaser Trailer 3 - YouTube
<Pixel_Outlaw> Probably going to take the wife and kids to see that this weekend. (I don't have a wife nor kids)
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<easye> Anybody ever heard of a "LISP dialect called ZOE", apparently in use at a Swiss pharmaceutical company? A recruiter asked me to apply for a job, and for the life of me, I can't find anything about a "ZOE". I am assuming that is some sort of application/DSL built on CL in use at this company, but thought I would cast my net here as well for a possible trawl.
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<aeth> you can also try #lisp and maybe even #scheme
<easye> Yeah, I guess it could be a Scheme dialect.
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<rainthree> does anyone have a fix for this bug ? https://github.com/svetlyak40wt/asdf-just-done-bug
<ixelp> GitHub - svetlyak40wt/asdf-just-done-bug: An example how to reproduce a subtle ASDF bug related to "Computing just-done [...]
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<rainthree> (trace asdf:reduce-direct-dependencies) https://pastecode.io/s/8yjxu013 https://pastecode.io/s/9rv8i9w0
<ixelp> Untitled (8yjxu013) - PasteCode.io
<rainthree> asdf:reduce-direct-dependencies is called mostly by mark-operation-done . (trace asdf::mark-operation-done) https://pastecode.io/s/ca19invt
<ixelp> Untitled (ca19invt) - PasteCode.io
<rainthree> the bug never manifests when the asdf cache is cleared . it manifests only when foo.fasl exists in the cache
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<Josh_2> hayley: Have you performed any before and after tests for the new GC?
<hayley> My paper tests five GC-intensive programs.
<hayley> Although the results were before I implemented compaction. In my experience the compaction never makes matters worse in terms of time, but reduces the number of pages SBCL claims from the OS.
<hayley> Perhaps I could do benchmarks on my new old mini PC, which so far has survived running a stress test of my GC for over three weeks. I would appreciate knowing about micro-architectural differences in any case.
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<mfiano> hayley: Can you explain how this interacts with my more-sane-but-not-standard linux vm.overcommit_memory=2 ?
<hayley> Hopefully nothing different. It uncommits as usual for SBCL.
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<mfiano> Ok. behavior of 2 depends on the ratio also set.
<mfiano> Which I keep at about 40% unless I am doing some crazy memory intensive thing.
<hayley> My collector might uncommit fewer pages, due to fragmentation (though it can usually reuse the memory just fine). And even with Linux defaults SBCL uses more memory, when counting reserved pages.
<hayley> What I heard is that measuring memory use is hard.
<mfiano> I guess my main question is, does SBCL commit max heap size at init time?
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<hayley> Good question. From memory the heap gets mmap'ed and then the core file gets mmap'ed over the heap.
<Josh_2> Wheres the link to your paper?
<ixelp> Parallel garbage collection for SBCL | Zenodo
<hayley> The ELS presentations were also recorded, mine is https://youtube.com/watch?v=ff67dKvAavw
<ixelp> Parallel Garbage Collection for SBCL - YouTube
<Josh_2> Thanks :thumbsup:
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<Josh_2> Very nice work :sunglasses:
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<Josh_2> Common Lisp foundation has a meeting once a month but do they ever announce it here?
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<Josh_2> The lightning talk from ELS is the first I had heard about that
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<beach> I think it is just a meeting between the members of the team running the foundation.
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<ixelp> Lightning Talk: Common Lisp Foundation - YouTube
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<Josh_2> beach: did you give a talk this year?
<beach> I did not.
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<Josh_2> :thumbsup:
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<beach> I didn't submit a paper, because I decide it would take too much time from more important work.
<beach> And I know longer consider it to be my job to publish my research this way.
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<Josh_2> Writing a paper and a presentation takes a lot of time
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<beach> It does.
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<Josh_2> beach: what did you think of Didier's talk about MOP based method combinations?
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<Josh_2> got my standard-standard-method-combination :joy:
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<beach> Josh_2: I was furious because he "forgot" to mention my paper on the same topic from a year or two ago.
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<beach> He did apologize profusely when I pointed it out.
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* beach vanishes until tomorrow morning.
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