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<jcowan>
Expanding type specifiers should be doable portably, no? They are all nailed down by the spec.
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<bike>
there's no equivalent to macroexpand or macro-function
<jcowan>
No. But type specifiers are a definite set of things: `vector` is the same as (array t (*)), e.g.
<jcowan>
So you can expand them by pattern matching (or cond clauses)
<bike>
deftype exists
<aeth>
and in particular, the combination of type specifiers for arrays/vectors and numbers encourages complex deftypes
* jcowan
nods
<jcowan>
Yes, I was just looking at Henry Baker's paper
<aeth>
a graphics library might represent single-float mathematical vectors as (deftype vec (length) `(simple-array single-float (,length)))
<aeth>
and then from there do e.g. (deftype vec3 () `(vec 3))
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<phantomics>
I just learned about the ISSR project (https://github.com/interactive-ssr/issr-server), does anyone know its status? Is it abandoned? It's a fascinating approach to web apps but there hasn't been work on it in over a year
<phantomics>
There's a surprising lack of discussion about it
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<jcowan>
Looks like it might be finished, heretical as htat idea is.
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<phantomics>
A finished web framework is a bold proposition
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<patrix>
it's like HTMX before HTMX was a thing.. I remember checking out ISSR some years ago and not getting it.. but now that I'm using HTMX everywhere, I get it...
<patrix>
(well ok unlike htmx it uses websockets it seems, but close enough)
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<ixelp>
GitHub - interactive-ssr/hunchenissr: The ISSR backend for The Hunchentoot HTTP server.
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<NotThatRPG>
Anyone know anything about the state of Roswell? I have a GitHub library (XMLS) that was using Roswell for regression testing, and recently the tests have gone completely haywire. Possible confound: am using 40ants/setup-lisp@v2 github action to install roswell, and I suppose the problem could be in some kind of inconsistency b/w roswell and setup-lisp
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<skin>
NotThatRPG: What is your OS
<skin>
and CL Implementation
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<NotThatRPG>
skin: I'm on MacOS myself, but I'm using Roswell on a GitHub runner, which is Linux
<skin>
Right. I did some digging on that, 40ant is pretty interesting stuff. It calls into a library called `40ant/ci`, got that far before I had to get back to work. `defworkflow` was used.
<skin>
So you'd have to search that repo for how it sets up roswell. I've used roswell recently though, did okay. You using fiveam or rove?
<NotThatRPG>
skin: 5AM. I got it to the point where the CI actions will work for SBCL, CCL, and ECL, but abcl, clisp, and cmu can't be installed via roswell.
<NotThatRPG>
I need to see if there's some way to pass specific version arguments into roswell using 40ants/setup-lisp ...
<NotThatRPG>
E.g., I'm not sure why setup-lisp is trying to install cmucl18e...
<NotThatRPG>
There's also some confusion where Roswell mis-reports its version number. I filed an issue on the repo
<skin>
you can use a Djula templated qlot file, apparently
<skin>
which means you can set which versions you want installed that way
<NotThatRPG>
skin: Thanks! For now I'm trying to use LISP settings like cmu-bin/21e to see if that will work. Debugging with Github.com in the loop is ... not fast!
<NotThatRPG>
I have to go now, but will be back later. Thanks for the advice!
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<nature>
Hello, been out of the game for a while and about to resetup myself a dev environement, did lem become a serious contender, or should I stick with Emacs/Slime? Any recent ressources on how to get the most of a common lisp dev setup?
<nature>
Probably gonna stick with sbcl as my implementation of choice btw
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<pkal>
nature: There exists a fork of SLIME called Sly which might be worth checking out.
<pkal>
I don't know how serious alternative implementations like for Vim or VSCode are
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<nature>
I also saw slime-star does it come with a lot of benefits?
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<skin>
I find vim to be good. No one else agrees with me :P but yeah, if you like vim hit me up.