#commonlisp on 2023-08-29 — irc logs at libera.irclog.whitequark.org

2022-07-28 16:55 jackdaniel changed the topic of #commonlisp to: Common Lisp, the #1=(programmable . #1#) programming language | Wiki: <https://www.cliki.net> | IRC Logs: <https://irclog.tymoon.eu/libera/%23commonlisp> | Cookbook: <https://lispcookbook.github.io/cl-cookbook> | Pastebin: <https://plaster.tymoon.eu/>

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06:10 <samebchase> Found https://www.endatabas.com/ recently. A new database written in CL+Rust what do you all think about this

06:10 <ixelp> endatabas | SQL Document Database with Full History

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10:47 <Shinmera> I think "I'm just gonna continue to use postgres"

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13:00 <tyson2> took alphapapa's advice and installed 29.1 (build 2) in place of 30.x

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17:33 <nij-> How to pass the signal conditioned to the next step? (handler-case (fail!) (error (e) (do-something e) (PASS-TO-THE-NEXT-HANDLER e))) ?

17:35 <mfiano> signal

17:37 <nij-> Hmm seems right half.. but when I do https://bpa.st/UYVIC

17:37 <ixelp> View paste UYVIC

17:38 <nij-> The error didn't invoke the debugger.

17:40 <nij-> While I think it should, because it was signaled the second time without being handled.

17:42 <bike> signal doesn't invoke the debugger

17:42 <bike> you can call error again for that

17:42 <bike> but if you do want the debugger, i'd recommend using handler-bind instead of handler-case

17:43 <yitzi> handler-bind would probably be better since it doesn't unwind the state

17:43 <bike> (handler-bind ((error #'do-something)) (fail!))

17:43 <yitzi> as bike said

17:44 <nij-> If handler-bind is "so great", and it seems that syntactically it is as minimal as handler-case,

17:44 <bike> it's not

17:44 <nij-> why would anyone wants to use handler-case? (a separate question)

17:44 <bike> and it's pretty common to want to handle an error by stopping right there rather than continuing on to further handlers, in which case handler-case is convenient

17:44 <yitzi> handler-case is built on top of bind. Like restart-case on restart-bind.

17:46 <bike> for example (ignore-errors form) is (handler-case form (error (condition) (values nil condition))). with handler-bind you'd have to do (block #:gensym (handler-bind ((error (lambda (e) (return-from #:gensym (values nil e))))) form))

17:49 <nij-> Oh I see.. handler-bind only processes that condition, and let the condition signaling flow to be passed on.

17:49 <nij-> FInally I understand it =_

17:49 <nij-> Thanks

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23:03 <fengshaun> I just found this on the interwebs: https://www.timmons.dev/posts/static-executables-with-sbcl-v2.html

23:03 <ixelp> Eric Timmons

23:04 <fengshaun> iirc with sbcl I was able to get an image, but needed sbcl on the deploy machine. Has that changed? can I get a self-contained binary and just deploy it on a minimal machine with nothing on it?

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23:19 <hayley> Here is a little guide to the parallel GC, with how to build it and how to tell if it's working <https://applied-langua.ge/~hayley/pmrgc.html>

23:19 <ixelp> Please test the parallel mark-region collector for SBCL

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