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<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> That to
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<RichNeese> I thought it was Public Retardation
<Armbian-Discord>
<br> What happened to Pinebook pro Hirsute Edge Gnome image?
<Armbian-Discord>
<br> It was being built at one point, but it was removed a while ago
<Armbian-Discord>
<br> There’s no minimal image either so far as I see, so I can’t just sudo apt install ubuntu-desktop. I mean, I can, but I don’t know what the best image to do that on would be (and I’ve had to deal with KDE overwriting GTK settings when I had them both installed…)
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<Armbian-Discord>
<RichNeese> gnome needs some updating
<Armbian-Discord>
<RichNeese> but alot going on right now
<Armbian-Discord>
<RichNeese> working on release
<Armbian-Discord>
<RichNeese> no thats the wrong way
<Armbian-Discord>
<RichNeese> but you can
<Armbian-Discord>
<RichNeese> we will get a update done
<Armbian-Discord>
<RichNeese> but we are workingon releasae
<Armbian-Discord>
<RichNeese> I am also working with buildroot on riscv so I am doing 2 projects
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<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> But the chrome tabs... :-)
<archetech>
The Mediatek MT8183 SoC will work with the Panfrost DRM kernel driver come Linux 5.14. This Mediatek SoC is prominent for being used by HP, Acer, and Lenovo Chromebooks. The Mediatek MT8183 was announced at the end of 2019 with featuring eight Cortex-A73 cores and four Cortex-A53 cores while using Arm Mali G72 MP3 graphics.
<archetech>
should outrun my N2+
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> Now if someone built a board based on it and didn't forget that USB devices use electricity ...
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> It looks like it is not 4k, which I don't care about quite honestly
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> I don't know much about mediatek, would be interesting to see what is in the mainline kernel
<archetech>
it has dp ext port :)
<Armbian-Discord>
<NeonFetch> T988??
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<Armbian-Discord>
<NeonFetch> More cores.. more ram needed for multicore workloads. You will not be able to use 8 cores for compiling without running out of ram on many projects for example. 4gb is okay for a quadcore
<Armbian-Discord>
<NeonFetch> Me compiling big projects with 1 core back on 2018 with my pi3 😢
<archetech>
good point but ill use big swap
<Armbian-Discord>
<NeonFetch> No one is asking 8k IMHM, how much people have 8k tvs and buy sbcs.. ?? Probably none
<Armbian-Discord>
<NeonFetch> We dont have VPU on most arm linux platforms, so we can barely play 1080p videos , even on rpi4
<Armbian-Discord>
<NeonFetch> For any real media consumption you have to use android and blobs. Thats how far we are from 8k on arm linux
<archetech>
g52/72 have vpu
<Armbian-Discord>
<NeonFetch> Yes, they are some coreelec/librelec with patches... etc, but thats not desktop linux.
<Armbian-Discord>
<NeonFetch> Vpu have nothing in common with that. Its a separated engine
<Armbian-Discord>
<NeonFetch> Amlogic VPU have nothing in common with a mali g52
<Armbian-Discord>
<NeonFetch> Thats a different hw
<archetech>
Amlogic Video Engine AVE-10 VPU
<Armbian-Discord>
<NeonFetch> Yes, again, nothing in common with the gpu
<Armbian-Discord>
<NeonFetch> But its oka
<Armbian-Discord>
<NeonFetch> I dont have VPU on any desktop mainline linux with amlogic sbcs
<Armbian-Discord>
<NeonFetch> Neither on RK
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<Guest6196>
How can test builds get their kernel updated to the latest test builds kernel?
<Guest6196>
I installed a test build from the website and now there is a new test build with a new kernel and i would like to update to this test build
<Guest6196>
I solved the upgrade question by myself. Seems like the update failed before because if network issues and thats why i was not able to find the new kernel. Now i could update to the latest test kernel
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<stipa>
NeonFetch 8K will just become the norm one day like 1080 did
<stipa>
there's no point in arguing about it
<stipa>
4K sin't still a norm
<stipa>
isn't*
<stipa>
it'll just be like only 4K TV's to buy one day
<stipa>
8K, that's too big
<stipa>
that requiers alot of space
<stipa>
so even if you could afford it you don't maybe have space for it in your home
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<stipa>
what's next?
<stipa>
probably oled walls
<stipa>
with touch
<stipa>
or maybe 4K is the norm, i'm little behind
<stipa>
yeah, damn
<stipa>
it's 4K TVs in the sops
<stipa>
shops*
<stipa>
my bad
<stipa>
it's like 50/50
<stipa>
50% of HD and 50 of 4K
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<Armbian-Discord>
<RichNeese> they have them
<Armbian-Discord>
<RichNeese> your way late
<Armbian-Discord>
<RichNeese> they com ein plcks ate attach
<Armbian-Discord>
<RichNeese> the can pop and switch them
<Armbian-Discord>
<RichNeese> modular display system
<Armbian-Discord>
<ran the commiebot> Could someone explain how the RK3399 overclock works? I’ve tried doing it manually by editing DTBs but it does work. Armbians menu setting for it works fine though.
<Armbian-Discord>
<ran the commiebot> How are you guys doing it?
<Werner>
I used the dtb overlay provided by armbian-config and working fine
<Armbian-Discord>
<ran the commiebot> Yes how does that work? I want to use a different OS but keep the overclock I got with armbian.
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> Uhh don't use a different os
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<Werner>
Besides what lanefu suggests :P you could try merging the default dtb for the RK3399 and the overlay into one dtb
<Armbian-Discord>
<ran the commiebot> I did try doing that last night but I couldn’t get it to recompile. Im thinking my cut paste and pray method was flawed. As for not using armbian, it’s not a good fit for what I’m trying to do with this board.
<Armbian-Discord>
<ran the commiebot> Im actually moving to Manjaro minimal since the arch wiki is fabulous.
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> Not that fabulous
<Armbian-Discord>
<ran the commiebot> Well it’s helpful to people like me who know more than some but less than needed.
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> You can use the armbian build tools to build your own custom minimal image
<Armbian-Discord>
<ran the commiebot> Hmm
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> Its a real underappreciated tool
<Armbian-Discord>
<ran the commiebot> Can I turn off the overly complicated audio thing? I’m assuming that’s Jack.
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> We dont use Jack
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> What do you want?
<Armbian-Discord>
<ran the commiebot> Well im running the beta macOS on my main machine and it’s having troubles with VMs being unstable. A build there wouldn’t likely go well.
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> M1 mac?
<Armbian-Discord>
<ran the commiebot> I9 Mac. The M1 is more stable at the moment. I guess I could try that.
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> Anyway what are the requirements for your desired image
<Armbian-Discord>
<ran the commiebot> I want it to serve files with jellyfin and SMB, manage the house with homebridge, play retro games with retroarch, box86 and Anbox/waydroid
<Armbian-Discord>
<ran the commiebot> Armbian can do those things but I find I keep breaking it when I try to pull things apart.
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> Maybe use a cli image and do your own desktop install?
<Armbian-Discord>
<ran the commiebot> Ideally it won’t even use a desktop
<Armbian-Discord>
<ran the commiebot> The yo would run without full X11
<Armbian-Discord>
<ran the commiebot> Ui
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<Armbian-Discord>
<ran the commiebot> The only reason for the android stuff is because the roomies moved to another state and took the PS4. Games like bendy and the ink machine aren’t worth building a gaming rig for so this would do.
<Armbian-Discord>
<ran the commiebot> A clininage could work. There’s enough overlap with arch and deb that the wiki is still useful. That’s not a bad idea
<Armbian-Discord>
<ran the commiebot> The only other thing I want it to get zandronum working on this thing. I found an arm build but I can’t get sound working with it.
<Armbian-Discord>
<ran the commiebot> Okay I’ll try the build tool. Thanks
<Armbian-Discord>
<ran the commiebot> Is it possible to request a big fix here too?
<Armbian-Discord>
<ran the commiebot> Bug
<[TheBug]>
huh
<Armbian-Discord>
<ran the commiebot> Cute
<[TheBug]>
should post issues to the fourm or github
<Armbian-Discord>
<ran the commiebot> Got it. Thanks.
<Armbian-Discord>
<ran the commiebot> Thanks guys. I’ll try this with the build tool. 🙂
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<[TheBug]>
ran the commie: the overclocks only worked in legacy for rk3399
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> Build tool takes a while to get used to. Be sure to reads docs.armbian.com
<[TheBug]>
there are older images though with experimental opp
<[TheBug]>
that has 2Ghz in it
<[TheBug]>
but I can't remember which images it was
<[TheBug]>
after that it was seen to be unstable so opp were adjusted for a max of 1.8Ghz
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> Bug The 2gz overlays are on our maibline kernels
<[TheBug]>
ohh they are again?
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> Yeah
<[TheBug]>
last I checked it was still 1.8
<Werner>
for quite a while yeah
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> Been using for months
<[TheBug]>
hmm
<Werner>
disabeled by default though
<[TheBug]>
oh?
<[TheBug]>
has to be manually enabled?
<Werner>
enable via armbian-config as overlay
<[TheBug]>
I see
<Armbian-Discord>
<RichNeese> ok wait
<[TheBug]>
probably how I missed it I guess
<[TheBug]>
will have to look again
<Armbian-Discord>
<RichNeese> to get sound working all you have to do is goto the spacker and selech setting
<Werner>
years ago there was even a 2.2 ghz overlay but that has been removed due to instability
<Armbian-Discord>
<RichNeese> change to the multi output and you get sound over hdmi
<[TheBug]>
to be fair though I think what he was discussing is
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<[TheBug]>
in Raxda's image for example
<Armbian-Discord>
<RichNeese> otherwise it uses analog out
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<[TheBug]>
there was as setting for actually overclocking voltage in their config
<[TheBug]>
and special 'overclocking' settings
<[TheBug]>
which won't apply to mainline
<Armbian-Discord>
<RichNeese> sound works fine on 99% of the board ss it just defaults to analog out
<[TheBug]>
also I don't recall our legacy images having that either
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<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> Werner 2.2 GHz on RK3399? Hmmm, the Google version of the chip maybe, the everyone else one no way
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> I've had the RK3288-C up to 2.1
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<Armbian-Discord>
<RichNeese> ?
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> Overclocking the Rockchip parts
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<Armbian-Discord>
<RichNeese> ahh ok
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<Armbian-Discord>
<NeonFetch> I do use 2.21/1.8 on all my rk3399s
<Armbian-Discord>
<NeonFetch> It's perfectly stable on my side
<Armbian-Discord>
<NeonFetch> Without any crazy OV
<Armbian-Discord>
<NeonFetch> Just same voltage as the 2.0 overlay