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<archetech>
Machine: Type: ARM Device System: Hardkernel ODROID-N2Plus
<archetech>
what should my sources change to?
<archetech>
deb https://beta.armbian.com impish main hirsute-utils hirsute-desktop # disabled on upgrade to impish
<archetech>
oh my im out in no mans land
<archetech>
Adding new release option. Experimental, no support. says github
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<TRS-80>
archetech: you feeling ok?
<archetech>
are you?
<Armbian-Discord>
<rneese> ?
<Armbian-Discord>
<rneese> what are you doing
<TRS-80>
lol
<Armbian-Discord>
<rneese> impish will take time
<Armbian-Discord>
<rneese> its like 2 months out
<Armbian-Discord>
<rneese> we have hirsute
<archetech>
im ok w/ experimental be nice if there was a repo to keep the install armbian
<Armbian-Discord>
<rneese> things will get there give use time
<Armbian-Discord>
<rneese> he has to add it in
<archetech>
since its allowed to be built
<TRS-80>
rneese, you are doing God's work, mate
<archetech>
now there's an opinion
<Armbian-Discord>
<rneese> well I have Budgie/Cinnamon/Xfce all working like they should
<Armbian-Discord>
<rneese> and I will get mate and gnome working
<Armbian-Discord>
<rneese> but I need to get more hands on doing desktop work
<Armbian-Discord>
<rneese> I can not do the work myself 24/7
<archetech>
I'll do an install of kde w/ panfrost and 5.13 kernel soon on this
<archetech>
some dont get what Im doin with this impish
<Armbian-Discord>
<rneese> reppos will get added just give igor time
<archetech>
yup
<Armbian-Discord>
<rneese> well i figure with impish it has to be small things
<archetech>
TRS-80, def dont understand
<Armbian-Discord>
<rneese> impish is a joke
<Armbian-Discord>
<rneese> i dont thing anyone knows what your doing as I have no clue because I have been busy
<archetech>
ya ya w/e I just staed the goal and ur still lost
<archetech>
stated
<Armbian-Discord>
<rneese> well you want to install kde and panfrost
<Armbian-Discord>
<rneese> but I have to look at the kde-plasma I just pushed and clean it up
<archetech>
so you do have clue
<Armbian-Discord>
<rneese> I will take crazy people for 1000 alex
<Armbian-Discord>
<rneese> lol
<archetech>
well one second ur lost the next ya get it
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> enough guys
<Armbian-Discord>
<rneese> but mom we are just chatting
<archetech>
what is it is just me or anybody who comes here tries to help but doent have tacit approval of your friggin idiot overloards
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> right, and I'm a quaker
<Armbian-Discord>
<rneese> quaker in your boots
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> damn yankees 😄
<Armbian-Discord>
<rneese> < Canuck/Yankee
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> hahahaha oh noooo
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> 😄
<Armbian-Discord>
<rneese> so the font issue still stands on budgie
<Armbian-Discord>
<rneese> I dont get why so I have to look how to change the system font
<Armbian-Discord>
<rneese> back to the grind
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> I'll make some Poutine
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> 😄
<Armbian-Discord>
<rneese> Tony see desktop-devel channel
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<archetech>
sycophant channel?
* archetech
heads off to independent foss channels where blind loyalty is not required by their irc
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<TRS-80>
what a peach
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> Some people have a gift
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> What's an independent foss channel
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> And for fuck sakes trs-80 is right rich you are doin God's work
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> Without a fucking doubt youve been plugging at least 40-50 hours a week adding 5 new desktop environments for the past year
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> Like some random day rich just pops in here talking about some nonsense called budgie
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> And he's like here ill add it. Is there where the packages go?
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> Then i say something about mate
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> And he's like okay ill.do mate lemme do something with deepin first
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> Anyway kudos to @rneese
<TRS-80>
^ su much this
<TRS-80>
s/su/so/
<ArmbianHelper>
TRS-80 meant to say: ^ so much this
<TRS-80>
likea f'ing machine he is
<TRS-80>
It was first time I had ever heard of Budgie as well. lol In fact I still did not really look it up until today in fact. :D Well, now I know!
<TRS-80>
I mean, I gathered it was a DE, but that was it (before today).
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<lanefu>
TRS-80: i think we need to go through the-going's entire 12 month thread and try distil out each of the improvements he's suggested (or merged) into a single bulleted list
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> While Piter is distracted Mac is going to hostile takeover Rockchip64
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> 😄
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<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> I also realized I don't have a mini-DP cable, on order
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<TRS-80>
lanefu: By we do you mean me? lol
<TRS-80>
I mean, if you are studying it, take notes. It aids in retention anyway. I like taking lots of notes (in general).
<TRS-80>
I guess I need to read it (again) but I was in mood to work on some other stuff this evening.
<TRS-80>
I have been mulling some way to insert documentation inline in bash like Python docstring for automated generation.
<TRS-80>
reading up on prior art atm
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> serious question where do we put the firmwares?
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> lol nevermind
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> 😄
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> I always ask questions, because the second I ask, I find the answer and look stupid. Fastest way to get results
<TRS-80>
lol
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<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> Tinker Board 2 now has pretty much everything working. I saw we keep it WIP for a release cycle for testing then we can make it supported.
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> I do need to make a set of overlays for RK3399 to define which port gets the big and little VOP
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> I just pushed wifi support, forgot the reason for posting XD
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> The Wifi is over PCIe, so I'm curious to test throughput
<Armbian-Discord>
<kprasadvnsi> anybody know how to use the sunxi-fel? I want to read some memory-mapped registers.
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<TRS-80>
kprasadvnsi[m]: Anything on sunxi wiki? As that's more hardware than OS specific.
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<kprasadvnsi[m]>
There are some info but not much.
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<lanefu>
TRS-80: yeah ive looked for some "bashdoc" tools before always wanted to get us there. So very interested in your findings
<TRS-80>
So looks like Doxygen is pretty widely used (in other languages in general)
<TRS-80>
And I did actually find a couple Bash Doxygen implementations
<TRS-80>
Last time I looked into this, I found the syntax a bit ugly. But now I realize that's Doxygen syntax and is in (very?) wide use, no need to re-invent the wheel here.
<TRS-80>
I have been looking for something for my own personal shell scripts, mainly I wanted to adopt some existing syntax / not re-invent the wheel, so I may start giving it a play in that direction.
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<Armbian-Discord>
<kprasadvnsi> My TV Box is booting Armbian 🎉
<TRS-80>
Cheers! That is (often times) a significant accomplishment -- particularly if it is some obscure model.
<kprasadvnsi[m]>
<TRS-80 "Cheers! That is (often times) a"> It's a H616 based TV Box. Idk how obscure it can get
<Armbian-Discord>
<kprasadvnsi> @IgorPec Can I add yet another TV box in the large pile of boxes to the armbian?
<TRS-80>
well, getting it to boot, and making it a Supported Device are 2 very different things :)
<TRS-80>
in case of TV Box, not very likely I am afraid
<TRS-80>
I would publish your findings in whatever TV Box thread is applicable to the SoC (if there even is one)
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> Trs-80 sweet run with it
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> Plus doxygen rhymes with foxygen and they're a cool band
<TRS-80>
lanefu: I am on purpose giving the armbian-build RFC some time to marinate. That is the big one. If we can get all (or even most) people pulling in one direction, slipping in some docstrings later will be easy. Also I don't want to waste time until after we do this architecting / refactor. Mainly because I still don't know how anything works anyway. lol
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> I mean just document 1 function and i can add a ci step to generate docs
<TRS-80>
but also anything is on the table now we are talking about architecture, so I don't want to waste precious time prematurely
<TRS-80>
oh like a small sample?
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> I mean its a code commenting syntax
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> So just chip away. Should be no constraints on architecture decisions
<TRS-80>
> Mainly because I still don't know how anything works anyway. lol
<TRS-80>
other big problem is I need to go back to work in like days
<TRS-80>
and the wheels are literally off my truck, etc...
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> Yeah i mean it could be like reformay existing comments
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> Yeah there's no real hard stop with just adding first steps
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> Seriously do 1 or two and show me how to render docs
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> And then ill add it to my list of broken promises
<TRS-80>
Doxygen is apparenly invoked by a Makefile
<TRS-80>
Here is the bash filter I found, I came across links from several different places to it during my research: https://github.com/Anvil/bash-doxygen
<TRS-80>
lanefu: So I guess I should do a branch and PR? Then we can have a little working demo for example?
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<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> Ewwwwwww. 😆
<TRS-80>
Tonymac32: What's Eww?
<TRS-80>
(besides the text based browser in Emacs)
<archetyp>
--Kurze Frage: Wie kann ich der GPU / VPU mehr exklusiven Arbeitsspeicher (RAM) zuweisen?
<ArmbianHelper>
Quick question: How can I assign more exclusive RAM to the GPU / VPU? [de~>eng]
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> TRS-80: PRs welcome 🤠
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<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> Archetyp I think we have a CMA patch in Amlogic for the VPU function, I don't know that that is the same concept for other platforms. I also have no clue if that matters for GPU
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<TRS-80>
lanefu: touche
<Armbian-Discord>
<kprasadvnsi> If you think about it, these TV boxs are the real devices these SoC are made. The SBC market is just a by-product of this huge economy these products have generated. Nobody gonna make a affordable SoC for SBC. I am not defending the Chinese TV box maker, they should burn in hell.
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> Hahahahahaha
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> You aren't wrong. But the TV box vendorss have even less hardware control than the SBC ones. Random wifi, random ram, random eMMC, etc etc etc etc
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> Exhausting and causes a ton of problems/questions
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> Probably some Queenston EMMC labelled parts too
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> 😆
<Armbian-Discord>
<kprasadvnsi> Again not defending those fuckers but they are the ones driving the SoC cost down unintentionally for us so we can enjoy our $20 SBCs.
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<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> Right. And they drive it without causing me any personal pain and can keep on that way. 😉
<Armbian-Discord>
<kprasadvnsi> I got a H616 box with 4GB/64GB and all the extra bits for $30 shipped. Apart from WiFi and EMMC, everything looks fine to me.
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> That eMMC is epic btw
<Armbian-Discord>
<kprasadvnsi> Yup, 🤣🤣
<Armbian-Discord>
<kprasadvnsi> I am still not sure if it really an eMMC and it's 64GB capacity.
<TRS-80>
Well, didn't most of these SoC come from mobile devices? Or there are some more geared towards TV Box I guess? I always figure SoC are cheap because tablets and phones made in millions since years now.
<TRS-80>
millions numbers
<kprasadvnsi[m]>
<TRS-80 "Well, didn't most of these SoC c"> Yes and no. There are many SoC made specifically for TV Boxes. And they are dirt cheap in bulk.
<TRS-80>
kprasadvnsi[m]: Yeah I guess I even sort of realized it myself halfway through typing.
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> Check if it is 4 or 8 bits wide, maybe it's a dressed up microSD
<Armbian-Discord>
<kprasadvnsi> It could be. What an eMMC look like in boot log?
<Armbian-Discord>
<kprasadvnsi> For the context, this is the eMMC chip in question.
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> Kingston wasn't good enough for these devs
<Armbian-Discord>
<rneese> kp whats the issue
<Armbian-Discord>
<rneese> have you tried taking a hairdryer or a hot gun and heat it and try to reseat it
<Armbian-Discord>
<rneese> I have heard alot of emmc just have to be reseated
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> I think it works, it's just a generic device from no one knows where
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> Made in a Shenzhen basement
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<nekomancer[m]>
basements — in Shenzhen? there no basements.
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<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> we made a forum club for tv boxes so we donn't need to deal with
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> we have troubles dealing with SBC, time / attention
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<sven59>
help
<ArmbianHelper>
Check out our awesome documentation! It's tremendous, promise! https://docs.armbian.com/
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> cp: cannot stat '/home/igorp/actions-runner/_work/build/build/build/packages/blobs/desktop/wallpapers/armbian*.jpg': No such file or directory
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> its alwas good to check logs of CI ... before runing them once again
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> [ o.k. ] Creating board support package for desktop
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> its hirsute / probably also in focal
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<stipa>
Werner: are you good? Germany is under water nowadays...
<nekomancer[m]>
germany always the best in underwater fleet