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<RichNeese> broadcom grrr
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<RichNeese> whats going on
<Armbian-Discord>
<RichNeese> hey hipboi whats going on
<Armbian-Discord>
<hipboi> Ha?
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<hipboi> WiFi6 for sure
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<lanefu>
lol no wifi6 on that, but nothing beats the price. they're about $30USD on ebay
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> lanefu what are you going on about?
<lanefu>
dreaming of getting armbian to run onaerohive AP230 access points
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> ok
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> so a BCM43460 and a 5401(5)A (looks like a sharp hat to me)
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> i think so. the chip photos i got from FCC pics
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> that shield over the SoC is like soldered on or something
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> yes
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> soldered can
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> but i mean i can sacrafice AP
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> wouldn't tell us much anyway
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> cuz cheap
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> most of that hardware visible is PoE stuff looks like
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> so honestly not a whole lot should be different than any other board based on that chip
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> the kind of NAND would be important, and how to DL it
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> curious about the 20 pin header
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> so some folks have gotten openwrt on other builds, but different devices
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> there's almost certainly a UART on there
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> but there's one on that far left port, wight?
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> its supposed to use some bastardized uboot on it
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> sounds like all u-boot
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> 😄
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> no it runs linux
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> it does cool shit
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> no no, I meant the bastardized part
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<lanefu> anyway 2 eathernet, power and usb
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> wait
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> bleh lemme go upstairs lol
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> the mini-pcie cards for the WiFi mean that is you DID manage to put your own linux on there you could do downright stupid things
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> Yeah console port
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> Is left most or cluster
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> right. The right most is PoE/ Eth0, then Eth1, then power
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> Yup
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> PoE and 2 mini-PCIe wifi cards means that thing could be a lot of fun
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> Yes... and they are $30 on ebay
<stipa>
i've watched 3 videos to bump some views up
<stipa>
some games work good
<stipa>
all games that worked good on PC actually work good now on radxa
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> retro games 😉
<stipa>
so it's mostly how good game was coded
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> should we ship box86 on desktops ?
<nekomancer[m]>
<Armbian-Discord> "<lanefu> Anyway that's what..." <- do you mean 2 lots with 12 and 15 items?
<stipa>
IgorPec: if it's not much of a hassle why not
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<[TheBug]>
IgorPec: there are for sure already some existing scripts and such to add box86 easily to different boards and it become a lot more popular with more boards getting good GPU accel and stuff set so, could be worth adding to desktop if the size trade off isn't huge
<[TheBug]>
otherwise it may just be worth making an easily installable meta package
<[TheBug]>
or something
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<nekomancer[m]>
old games. still gameable after servers are down.
<IgorPec>
i have no idea about the size. never ever ran this
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> A package would be my vote. Things are getting complicated 😜
<Armbian-Discord>
<RichNeese> ?
<stipa>
i tried to modify zram config file in /etc/default/armbian-zram-config but after reboot nothing changed
<stipa>
is that the real config file?
<stipa>
i also did 'systemctl daemon-reload'
<stipa>
so it should read the file
<stipa>
hmmm
<stipa>
i'll try one more time, i guess i see a fackup
<[TheBug]>
hmm
<[TheBug]>
what are you trying to do?
<stipa>
change algorithm and bump the ram to 100 % for start
<stipa>
now it's the worst algorithm and 50% of ram
<stipa>
the best algorithm could bump up 290 %
<stipa>
i guess
<stipa>
i rebooted
<stipa>
but if it's the same i guess config file is somewhere else
<stipa>
it crashed lol, no boot
<stipa>
[ 28.153809] kernel BUG at arch/arm64/kernel/traps.c:407!
<[TheBug]>
I am confused
<[TheBug]>
whats the end goal
<[TheBug]>
to disable zram
<[TheBug]>
or add more zram
<stipa>
add more
<[TheBug]>
you don't want to do that
<[TheBug]>
you will just spend CPU cycles on swapping non-stop when it's trying to compress all your ram
<[TheBug]>
it's nice in a pinch but it really isn't a replacement for a real swap partition
<[TheBug]>
if you need more swap just add another swap file on a real device
<stipa>
it's too slow
<stipa>
at least on sd card
<stipa>
but i should have that too if zram overflows
<[TheBug]>
yeah pretty much if you get to the end of zram your thrashing CPU anyways
<[TheBug]>
so really if you get to a point you exceed zram a real swap would be better even if you take an IO hit
<stipa>
ok, i got the boot
<stipa>
150% boost
<stipa>
i would also like to try zstd algorithm, now is lzo-rle //dev/zram1 zstd 50M 1.6M 359.4K 764K 4 /var/log
<stipa>
yeah, there's some lubricant in deoxit tooo, i just have some german version
<stipa>
KONTAKT 61
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<stipa>
red one
<stipa>
no, blue one with red cube below 61 at the bottom of the barell
<stipa>
it works
<stipa>
i add some to pretty much everything
<stipa>
new, old, doesn't matter
<stipa>
it fixed a switch
<stipa>
not that those switches are expensive but still
<lanefu>
dexoit rocks
<stipa>
oh damn, VCPU on opi lite 2 works after the update
<stipa>
VPU*
<stipa>
someone did something
<stipa>
awesome
<lanefu>
lol wooho
<stipa>
cpu is still pretty busy but much better than before the update
<stipa>
like 150% better
<stipa>
awesome, still no HDMI sound
<stipa>
seems like H6 Throttle when it hits 80 C
<stipa>
can that be turned off with software?
<Armbian-Discord>
<RichNeese> put a better heatsync and fan on it
<stipa>
i have this system just because of no fan ability
<stipa>
the main reason i'm interested in this stuff
<stipa>
ok, switching off firefox helped a little
<stipa>
damn, it plays HD movie
<stipa>
4 cores hoover around 50%
<stipa>
temp at 75 C
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<lanefu>
stipa: thats fantastic
<lanefu>
what video player? mpv?
<Armbian-Discord>
<RichNeese> then put a bigger flat heatsync
<lanefu>
who are you calling flat?
<Armbian-Discord>
<RichNeese> but a small 5v fan is going to be quiet
<Armbian-Discord>
<RichNeese> lanefu we know your round as a jellybean
<lanefu>
lol
<stipa>
lanefu: MPV , VLC i have to tweak i guess
<stipa>
with MPV it works otb
<lanefu>
nice
<stipa>
yeah
<stipa>
RichNeese there has to be a hack ?
<stipa>
to disable throttling
<[TheBug]>
[12:24] <stipa> i have this system just because of no fan ability -- This doesn't really exist, they give you this idea for INDUSTRIAL use cases, where in reality most workloads are very light so it doesn't need a heatsink
<[TheBug]>
when you go use it as a desktop you really don't have an excuse not to have a heatsink an min, and maybe a fan.
<stipa>
i have a tiny heatsink
<Armbian-Discord>
<RichNeese> most metal case in the industry have pads that connect the cpu/gpu to the case and the case acts like a huge heatsync
<Armbian-Discord>
<RichNeese> get a better one
<Armbian-Discord>
<RichNeese> they are good bor verybasic use at that small size
<Armbian-Discord>
<RichNeese> bigger is better more space to dissipate the heat
<Armbian-Discord>
<RichNeese> somethign with fins is better as air will move accross it and help
<[TheBug]>
stipa: also there are some decent fans around now where you can get almost quiet operation
<[TheBug]>
so ify ou concern is noise
<Armbian-Discord>
<RichNeese> my fan and heatsync on the t4 you never hear
<[TheBug]>
if your concern is noise*
<[TheBug]>
thats not such a big issue anymore
<stipa>
damn it runs YT in HD
<stipa>
yeah guys, but you both know how shitty is to mount a fan
<[TheBug]>
4 m3 nylon screws?
<Armbian-Discord>
<RichNeese> no
<stipa>
i mean a heatsink
<stipa>
i don't have mounting holes
<Armbian-Discord>
<RichNeese> no mine went on easy and no issues witht he pad
<stipa>
just some 3M tape
<Armbian-Discord>
<RichNeese> you have to get the one made for the board
<[TheBug]>
you can use 3m thermal pad, thats fine
<[TheBug]>
use a 20mmx20mm heatsink
<Armbian-Discord>
<RichNeese> what board is this btw
<[TheBug]>
at the end I buit a pressure based system
<[TheBug]>
that uses mx4 thermal paste and is held down by the mount system I made
<Armbian-Discord>
<RichNeese> does this look hard to do
<[TheBug]>
theres a lot of other ways as well to accomplish this but yes it will have some investment both $ and time
<stipa>
RichNeese yeah, that looks neat but i don't have that luxury of mounting holes
<[TheBug]>
stipa: what I show on that blog post I used m3 nylon screws / posts + I cut small picese of plastic card which I used to apply down pressure on fan and heatsink there
<[TheBug]>
jI think I used an old gift card
<[TheBug]>
and a hoel punch
<[TheBug]>
hole*
<Armbian-Discord>
<RichNeese> there are fans that have mounting brackets
<[TheBug]>
yes but he is talking about an OPi board, they don't have mouonting holes generally speaking
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> Ali express has them too. Then some.tubing and a small 12V water pump and a radiator of some sort. It wasn't much honestly.