02:59 <Armbian-Discord> <N​eonFetch> bug, this is my build

02:59 <Armbian-Discord> <N​eonFetch> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1yf4xUvQVYgV6YZDVCPqREKyJojzgctZ9/view?usp=sharing

02:59 <Armbian-Discord> <N​eonFetch> test it whenever you can

02:59 <Armbian-Discord> <N​eonFetch> I will try to use a more powerful PSU down the road

03:00 <Armbian-Discord> <N​eonFetch> but I had never had power issues from linux

03:00 <Armbian-Discord> <N​eonFetch> and even then , I dont think its a power issue

03:00 <Armbian-Discord> <N​eonFetch> its on autologin

07:56 <Armbian-Discord> <k​prasadvnsi> any tool to benchmark panfrost GPU performance on rk3399?

10:16 <Armbian-Discord> <k​prasadvnsi> anybody tried the hantro VPU drivers in the mainline staging for rk3399?

11:08 <Armbian-Discord> <N​icoD> For my own means I use Supertuxkart to benchmark performance of panfrost. I turn on the fps, set display res to 1080p and full screen. All other graphics settings I leave. Then I start a football match with the grass field. The average fps is what I use to see differences. I also test the first race. I did try glxgears and glmark2 but didn't get useful information with this over different devices/distributions. The same de

11:08 <Armbian-Discord> too big differences with different images. No idea what's going on with it. I've not tried VPU on RK3399, I was waiting for news to try it and make a video about it.

13:18 <Armbian-Discord> <k​prasadvnsi> How many frames you are getting in STK?

14:13 <Armbian-Discord> <N​icoD> I'll check.

14:50 <Armbian-Discord> <N​icoD> PineBookPro 8fps Odroid N2+ 15fps

15:00 <Armbian-Discord> <N​icoD> PineBookPro is Focal 5.10.43 N2+ Hirsute 5.10.55

15:05 <Armbian-Discord> <k​prasadvnsi> I will check on my Orange Pi 4

15:16 <Armbian-Discord> <N​eonFetch> Only minimyths2 have mainline vpu afaik. But I also have no idea what is that neither (what are the use cases of that distro, peobably something like a plex server)

15:17 <Armbian-Discord> <N​eonFetch> I tested manjaro xfce and the performance was way below expectations, worst than the zero

15:18 <Armbian-Discord> <N​eonFetch> Also tested kde, abd was unstable as fuck

15:18 <Armbian-Discord> <N​eonFetch> And gnome was just a bit better than xfce

15:20 <Armbian-Discord> <N​eonFetch> https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/issues/5232

15:37 <stipa> what predictions they have, what about a one where no one will buy anything

15:46 <Armbian-Discord> <N​icoD> It's not about what it's worth, but how much will they pay.

15:47 <stipa> you mean on the chip manufacturing materials?

15:49 <Armbian-Discord> <N​icoD> I mean on the CPUs and GPUs.

15:49 <Armbian-Discord> <N​icoD> Those with the biggest pockets get their products.

15:50 <stipa> allrite, that's also an alternative outcome

15:51 <stipa> i guess the crisis is for everyone, especially those for deep pockets

15:51 <stipa> with deep*

15:51 <stipa> and existing hardware people have is good enough to keep the world afloat

15:57 <stipa> with that approach they have the fabs could be closed, in their place i would leave the prices or even go lower since it's crisis

15:57 <stipa> i would sacrifice on speed of hardware

15:58 <stipa> or cut corners somewhere to keep the fabs in good shape

15:59 <stipa> keeping the profits at the same level as before by rising the prices is a stupid idea

15:59 <stipa> it's crisis in case they haven't noticed

16:01 <stipa> it's not economical at all

16:01 <stipa> but that is to expect

16:02 <stipa> too bad fabs will be gone

16:11 <stipa> but they can always lower down the prices if no one will buy

16:12 <stipa> the question is would people buy even then

16:12 <stipa> if not they'll be in deep shit

16:21 <nekomancer[m]> Nobody will buy cpu after death of computer manufacturers.

16:21 <nekomancer[m]> They only part of a chain, and have no value without complete chain

16:22 <nekomancer[m]> People don't eats cpu.

16:22 <nekomancer[m]> As nobody need car tires without cars.

16:27 <stipa> no sales no chain

16:27 <stipa> it all depends on the buyer

16:28 <stipa> if there will be any

16:28 <stipa> they for some reson don't get that

16:28 <stipa> and play with a fire

16:29 <stipa> you can't rise price by 20% and present it to a buyer

16:29 <stipa> that's a sucide

16:30 <stipa> especially when there's mega tons of hardware zhrown away for no reason

16:50 <e3ef13f4ff44> Werner: https://forum.armbian.com/topic/16170-orangepi-zero2-allwinner-h616/?do=findComment&comment=128049

16:50 <e3ef13f4ff44> this isn't my post

16:50 <e3ef13f4ff44> but

16:50 <e3ef13f4ff44> the issue is that iptables is now using nftables in the kernel instead of xtables

16:51 <e3ef13f4ff44> on legacy kernel nftables is turned off completely

16:51 <e3ef13f4ff44> probably the config isn't touched since copying it from orangepi buildscripts

17:08 <IgorPec> build, test and make a pull request

21:08 <Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> man can't keep track anymore.. is there an SBC with 2x1gig NICS that are NOT USB?

21:10 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> I don't think so

21:12 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> That Asus i.mx8 board has a PCIe Intel GbE for the second one

21:13 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> Not a cheap board though

21:17 <crick> Hey, anyone know of a way to use nand-sata-install from a script with no interaction? For example to auto-flash the eMMC of a NanoPi after booting from the SD card

22:25 <Armbian-Discord> <R​ichNeese> we dont have a oem installer

22:39 <steev> admittedly i haven't kept up on them but i thought marvell has one that's giga and not usb - i know they have the ones that are sfp, but i'm assumining lanefu wants copper

22:40 <nekomancer[m]> sfp→cat6 https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-Cisco-SFP-GE-T-Compatible-Module/dp/B007UR0CZE

23:13 <Armbian-Discord> <N​eonFetch> is there Bug somewhere? haha