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<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> Nekomancer[m] that one is already twilighted, Tonymac128
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<nekomancer[m]> bad joke: I try to replace by warranty failed 14TB HGST HDD. "we confirm replace. same item not accessible, other same size current price is 710€, then please pay 295€ for replacement or choose something other".
<nekomancer[m]> how warranty works in eastern europe
<nekomancer[m]> 😣
<haritz> I was wondering, if the boot sequence as spelt out in /boot/boot.ini fails, because no matching images or initrd files could be found, how does uboot know where to pick up a kernel image
<haritz> that seems to be the case
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<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> Nekomancer[m] wtf
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<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichNeese> morning I just got home
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> Good. Rest up
<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichNeese> 6 weeks of antibiotic is going to be a blast
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<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> 😑
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<nekomancer[m]> R​ichNeese: it's happy you live
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<HerculeP> good evening, "armbian-fourm "
<HerculeP> on the status page
<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichNeese> thnks neko
<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichNeese> just woke from a antibiotic nap
<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichNeese> sorry so slow to respond
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<e3ef13f4ff44> heyo
<e3ef13f4ff44> what is the current status of h616 zero2?
<e3ef13f4ff44> what isn't still working?
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<lanefu> having a person to maintain it isn't working
<lanefu> status not known
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<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> 🤷🏼‍♂️
<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichNeese> so do any of you install custom desktops or just use xfce ?
<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichNeese> we need people willing to test new desktop builds and give feedback
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<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> I build with different desktops sometimes, but it is super slow when I'm just wanting to test kernel/u-boot
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<stipa> R​ichNeese i don't have hdmi audio on H6 and xfce Linux orangepilite2 5.13.9-sunxi64 #trunk.114 SMP Sun Aug 8 22:53:21 UTC 2021 aarch64 aarch64 aarch64 GNU/Linux
<stipa> the screen before entering DE, the one where you enter a password has some glitches with password field
<stipa> you can type in but it's glitchy, it accepts the password
<stipa> everything else seems fine
<stipa> fine as state of driver goes
<stipa> drivers*
<stipa> but tbh interest in H6 is very low
<stipa> everyone has some excuse
<stipa> and devs are distancing from it
<stipa> hopes of it working as it should are very low
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<stipa> i propose removing H6 boards from "supported"
<stipa> to
<IgorPec> it will remain as is
<IgorPec> devs are unpaid, so any discussion is pointless
<stipa> yeah
<IgorPec> this is linux and situation alsewhere (debian, ubuntu, manjaro, arch, ... ) is just much worse, while they only knows "supported"
<IgorPec> most of debian supported builds is just an automated never tested CI stream
<stipa> yeah, nothing changed in 2 years
<stipa> only thing that happened with H6 is regression
<stipa> and nothing after it
<IgorPec> well, it is always this way, ups and down.
<IgorPec> linux is made from many people and some contributions breaks previous work and vice versa
<IgorPec> this is happening all the time
<IgorPec> stop acting like a customer and things will be fine ;)
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<stipa> IgorPec: i'll try
<stipa> it's just the things i have no control of never ended fine
<stipa> not fine for me ofcourse
<stipa> maybe for someone else did
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> Stipa i love my h6 boards. I use pineh64 as my headless workstation and one as a wireguard vpn gateway
<stipa> mine is wasting power rn in living room
<stipa> connected to TV
<IgorPec> yeah, but that is not our fault
<stipa> there is no fault
<stipa> it's not functional
<stipa> is this what is happening to drivers on Armbian? https://lwn.net/Articles/739578/
<IgorPec> we are few millions short to be able to provide you what you imagine. just that ;)
<IgorPec> and yes, maintaining is a problem. for far less complicated things
<IgorPec> most of people that wants to help armbian would test, play, develop ... nobody asks "can i help maintaning"
<IgorPec> a few ofc does that
<IgorPec> otheewise you would need to run junk from vendor
<stipa> it's still junk
<stipa> idk, damn
<stipa> where should i even need to start to try to do it myself?
<stipa> for example, what i don't need to know ?
<stipa> or is it that i need to know fucking everything
<stipa> to fix a driver
<stipa> i'll do some reading, on the link above is some useful info of what some i already recognize
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<IgorPec> google.com "Linux Device Drivers"
<IgorPec> 1st ten
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<stipa> ok
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<stipa> The assumption here is that if the driver compiles with the kernel, then it works. That is not always the case...
<stipa> lol
<stipa> here it goes
<stipa> debug that
<stipa> already i have a feeling that some drivers don't get in the mainline and that requires maintenance that is lacking in many cases
<stipa> let me guess, i would have to pay to Linus Trovalds if i don't want to compile driver for every kernel because he doesn't want to put it in kernel for free?
<stipa> tbh i wouldn't be surprised
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<stipa> that would have been done with the first vendor kernel
<stipa> using some logic
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<stipa> logical thinking*
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