#ruby on 2023-09-04 — irc logs at libera.irclog.whitequark.org

2023-07-01 22:52 havenwood changed the topic of #ruby to: Ruby 3.2.2, 3.1.4, 3.3.0-preview1: https://www.ruby-lang.org | Rules: https://ruby-community.com | Logs: https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/ruby

00:03 <weaksauc_> ionface i doubt it would be easy but you would have to update the gem dependencies and change the api calls to be compatible

00:04 <weaksauc_> going from 2 to 3 seems like it would break a ton of things

00:04 <weaksauc_> or find a way to install gtk2 from source

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00:07 <ionface> when I did some research on this a couple months back, I thought it said ruby-gtk3 was backwards compatible

00:11 <ionface> how do you edit and use a gem locally to install something?

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00:25 <weaksauc_> ionface clone it and then use the path to it inside the gemspec

00:25 <weaksauc_> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/18677217/local-dependency-in-gem-gemspec

00:25 <ionface> jeeze, looks like I have to clone the repo and just rebuild everything... way to utilize my time

00:25 <ionface> thanks

00:25 <weaksauc_> np gui is not ruby's strong suit

00:26 <ionface> I'm just surprised the gem file needs to be built from various things

00:26 <ionface> would be better if it were a flat text file like everything else

00:29 <weaksauc_> well gtk is a compiled thing that you need to compile for each system so that's why

00:29 <weaksauc_> the fundamental project is written in c

00:29 <ionface> ah gems are actually archives containing the binary

00:30 <ionface> that's ridiculous, but okay

00:30 <ionface> oh this isn't a binary, it's a script

00:31 <weaksauc_> nah gems are ruby code that can have optional dependencies

00:32 <ionface> I unpacked this one, it's just like 10 text files

00:32 <weaksauc_> yeah gems can have instructions to build c code and use it

00:35 <ionface> I'm not arguing that, I'm just pointing out that it's a binary archive which flies against standard design philosophy

00:36 <weaksauc_> what do you mean?

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02:56 <myappie> hello

02:57 <yisef> hi what's up

02:57 <myappie> well, i have this piece of code that i ran through chatgpt

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02:57 <myappie> and it started compaining about missin end statements

02:58 <myappie> and now, my file has like 5 consecutive end statements at the bottom for no obvious reason

02:59 <myappie> i did, however, have a puts line goig "Soething something ending..." and that might have set it off initially. but after deleting it and rerunning everything, the problem still persists

02:59 <myappie> ill start work on a gist

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03:43 <myappie> or not

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04:41 <ox1eef_> Yep - '.gem' files are essentially a tar archive. But I don't think that's non-standard. Tar is a common distribution format.

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10:44 <leah2> til #unpack1

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10:59 <gr33n7007h> additionally, unpack/unpack1 takes an optional offset which is nice, better than the cryptic @ directive :)

11:06 <leah2> hm neat

11:06 <leah2> now i wish for a .pack1 tho ;)

11:09 <gr33n7007h> :) 👍

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19:12 <leftylink> the version of Ruby in this distro's repos is out of date

19:12 <leftylink> does that mean it's time to switch to a different distro

19:13 <leftylink> it's not like I desperately ened any features from the newer versions

19:13 <leftylink> so it'd mostly be out of the principle of the thing, I gues

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20:36 <adam12> leftylink: Which distro? I still have some CentOS 7 machines (which are EOS next year) that have Ruby 2.0.0 :O

20:36 <adam12> I've normalized on debian for almost everything now, which means a semi-recent version of Ruby. Joy.

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23:55 <Kaedenn> Does Ruby have what're known as "virtual environments" in Python, or self-contained Ruby package trees so that I can install modules on a whim without affecting my global operating system's Ruby installation? I have _zero_ experience in Ruby.