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<sicelo>
Wizzup: so in arm-sdk, i see a function for building the kernel for a device. and i also see the kernel exists as a standalone package. how does this work? or the function in arm-sdk is not used?
<sicelo>
at least n900 in arm-sdk looks like it would build old kernel ... so i guess that's not used?
<Wizzup>
sicelo: we don't use arm-sdk way to build kernel
<Wizzup>
that's a devuan-only thing
<Wizzup>
ew just build a package and install/depend on it during out bootstrap
<sicelo>
ah, ok
<Wizzup>
do you need help with l5 things?
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<halftux>
Wizzup: what is the helper command to use with the arm-sdk is it build_image_dist or build_arm_dist?
<sicelo>
build_arm_dist
<halftux>
is the arm64-generic build already fixed?
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<Wizzup>
looksl ike it's not set to auto build, heh
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<Wizzup>
we can also make a daedalus one if this passes
<halftux>
sure fine with me
<halftux>
so the kernel needs a device specific package. Is there also a package for the device tree files?
<sicelo>
the dts is generally part of the kernel package
<Wizzup>
yes, this is leste-config-xyz
<Wizzup>
oh, the device tree is part of the kernel
<Wizzup>
honestly when it comes to specific kernel stuff I'm hoping we could just merge the support into a single kernel package since they are a pain to maintain, do you have a link to a kernel tree and config somewhere?
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<sicelo>
what do you mean by single kernel package?
<Wizzup>
not to have a kernel per device, but a kernel for multiple devices
<Wizzup>
like we have a single one for all our omap devices, ideally we'd also have a single one for arm64 devices
<Wizzup>
and we could extend the omap kernel to other 32 bit devices
<Wizzup>
we modify builddeb scripts in kernel, so it's not a bunch of extra work
<sicelo>
unfortunately that can clash. even within omap, for some reason d4 doesn't want kernel with THUMB, and we would like to have it for N900. as a result, we currently have it disabled for N900
<Wizzup>
for things that need their own kernel we will do it of course
<Wizzup>
I don't know what halftux is working on, I assumed (maybe wrong) raspi
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<sicelo>
L5 as well, afaik :-)
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<Wizzup>
ok
<halftux>
I only wanted to know how everything works in general to add maybe new devices by myself. I have odroid c4 in mind and yes I have L5 and raspi2-5 at home
<halftux>
when I tried to build the raspi 3 and 4 it arm-sdk builds an old kernel from raspi git so I guess I need to remove this custom build and provide a package
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<halftux>
for odroid c4 I am looking atm at armbian how they build the kernel, many patches are involved
<Wizzup>
halftux: yes, it would be great to get a proper kernel for the raspis
<Wizzup>
ideally just mainline
<Wizzup>
I would suggest to start with raspi over odroid-c4, since it is hopefully easier and more impactful
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<halftux>
ok checkout daedalus image-builder and running arm64-generic then trying to get raspi4 mainline kernel running on it
<Wizzup>
cool :)
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<Wizzup>
freemangordon: this is not something we'd want to work on now, but nlnet is asking if I know what it would take to move us to gtk3
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<Wizzup>
as far as I know we got quite far, even have the input module working, but we don't have the theming working yet, which I think in turn made us not move forward, we might be missing some fremantle specific widgets too.
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<arno11>
Wizzup: AI could help a lot imo
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<Wizzup>
arno11: with what, themes?
<arno11>
idk exactly for theming but i asked leste assistant, seems able to directly convert gtk2 code to gtk3.
<arno11>
if you have specific example to provide and test, i can try
<Wizzup>
the challenge isn't really porting gtk2 to gtk3, it's the fact that we have themes, widgets, etc that need to be ported
<Wizzup>
to a different plugin architecture at that
<Wizzup>
some of this work was done already, but it's not like 'port this gui application from gtk2 to gtk3'
<arno11>
i understand that
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<arno11>
i just mean: gtk2 to gtk3 sounds like a monumental work for just few devs with not a lot of spare time.
<Wizzup>
yup, hence not a now thing, but having an idea of how much work it would be is helpful
<Wizzup>
and nlnet might offer to fund some of the work
<arno11>
i see.
<inky>
Wizzup, i guess no hope for rafael to do that in close time, i think if you pull the pinephone kernel and send to phoenix, updated one will work, i can test, my pp is on devel.