<sewn>
have you guys ever tased Lindt chocolate before?
<sad_plan>
I dont belive I have
<sewn>
give me your IBAN so i can wire transfer you the money to buy one
<sewn>
best chocolate ever
<sad_plan>
riight. never seem them before though. I dont belive they sell them here
<sad_plan>
nor in sweden for that matter
<sewn>
fidn them in ur local supersupermarket
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<sewn>
woah youre live in sweden????
<sewn>
thats awesome
<sewn>
then im sure you know who sjalv: is i think
<sad_plan>
what
<synimas>
Whats the best way to modify the bemenu config?
<sad_plan>
you already know where I live
<sewn>
synimas: man 1 bemenu
<sad_plan>
and no I dont know who sjalv: is
<sewn>
you can use environment variables to configure bemenu i believe
<synimas>
Ah, thought it was a config.h as well
<sewn>
its wayland, you dont usually expect suckless style software there anymore
<synimas>
Also, is putting dwl in my .profile a bad idea?
<sewn>
if youre using [ $tty = /dev/tty ] && dwl then no its a good idea
<sewn>
unless youre starting other software in your profile
<sewn>
like pipewire or dbus or anything for that matter other than dwl
<synimas>
Does that open it in a separate tty?
<sad_plan>
whats wrong with just typing dwl manually when you log in instead?
<synimas>
Prefer not too
<sewn>
sad_plan: ive been always manually starting wayland and xorg by hand and i can see why autostart can be better
<sewn>
or autologin for that matter
<sad_plan>
I get the deal, you just wanna jump straight into the action. I like having to enter my login credentials instead, just type sx to start a X server instead.
<sewn>
same, its more secure sometimes
<sewn>
especially for laptops (except having slock & encrypted disk)
<synimas>
Your string gets a unary operator expected output
<sad_plan>
in case I wreck something, I dont have to deal with my .profile attempting to start something thats broken
<synimas>
Actually thats a fair point, i dont have other ttys setup atm
<sewn>
sad_plan: thats why you have the tty check to only tty1
<sewn>
kiss unfortunately doesnt really set up all the ttys for whatever reason
<sad_plan>
its setup by runit instead. however theres nothing stopping you from having your init start them instead
<sewn>
runit doesnt setup ttys
<sad_plan>
I used to do that before
<sad_plan>
did init handle it?
<sad_plan>
I forget
<sewn>
inittab handles it yes
<sad_plan>
havent used KISS' init in a long time now
<sad_plan>
right
<sewn>
runit should handle it imo tbh
<sad_plan>
yeah, it keeps it out of the init system, and if you wanna start more/less ttys, you can easily activate/deactivate them. its how I have them setup
<sad_plan>
I just have rcsm start my gettys instead. makes me depend on rcsm, which maybe is less ideal, but Im probably always going to have a service manager anyway so
<sewn>
why dont you make a kiss fork?
<synimas>
Ill just throw a shell script link with my starting shit into bin
<sewn>
synimas: make sure its local, like ~/bin or ~/.local/bin
<sewn>
u dont wanna be touching /usr
<sad_plan>
sewn: wym, I have a kiss fork
<sewn>
i mean, a full fork
<sewn>
like complete detachment
<synimas>
Do i have to add ~/bin to path?
<sewn>
ofc
<synimas>
Also, why shant i bother /usr?
<sewn>
sad_plan: you should name it breakup linux
<sewn>
synimas: mostly because its reserved for system programs and such
<sad_plan>
lol, why that name though?
<sewn>
because youre sad_plan
<synimas>
What ab /bin
<sewn>
and youre forking off kiss
<sad_plan>
right
<sad_plan>
lol
<sewn>
/bin is symlink to /usr/bin
<synimas>
Ah i see
<sad_plan>
anyway, I almost have all packages I use in my repo. I however dont really see any benefit to instead have all of them in my repo. and who else but me would even use it?
<synimas>
Most applications use /usr
<sewn>
sad_plan: i would
<sewn>
thats if it actually switches out system components for better alternatives as well
<sewn>
i have ran sbase and ubase but you can recall how that wen
<sewn>
t
<sad_plan>
dont you require abit more performane than what tinyx gives you?
<sad_plan>
its even been discussed at tinycorelinux's forums. its seems theyre rather annoyd by it aswell, but ive yet to see any fix for it..
<sad_plan>
it would be alot more convinient. but ive learned to live without it
<sewn>
even XFree86 supported mod4
<sewn>
ill change it to alt and see if GLX works
<sad_plan>
just like I dont have scrollback on my terminal
<sad_plan>
yeah
<sewn>
sad_plan: i dont mean to be discourging, but you dont really deserve to live by these restrictions tbh
<sad_plan>
hm, maybe some doofus removed it. seeings as xorg is a fork of Xfree86
<sad_plan>
lol, wym?
<sewn>
idk you dont have to restrict yourself
<sad_plan>
I dont, I just dont care for scrollback anymore, and Id rather have a statically linked tinyx, than having to deal with abi instabillty from time to time
<sad_plan>
not that I have that issue too much, but its anoying when it happens
<sewn>
interestingly, tinyX supports EGL but not Vulkan or OpenGL
<sad_plan>
huh. so no gaming for you on tinyx then :P
<sewn>
doesnt seem to support Xinerama or Xrandr though
<sad_plan>
the performance would be horrendous anyway though
<sewn>
even mcf's tiny wayland compositor has bare bones multi monitor support though
<synimas>
Accidentally made my start wayland command shorthand as sway lmao
<synimas>
Fitting?
<sad_plan>
tinyx doesnt afaik. its rather barebone
<sad_plan>
which is fine by me, as I only use 1 monitor anyway
<sewn>
synimas: i named mine sw like sx
<sewn>
i see
<synimas>
I always used startx
<sewn>
do you run on a thinkpad?
<synimas>
Yeah
<synimas>
X270
<sewn>
booo
<synimas>
Is feh in any repos?
<synimas>
Lmao, you use a mac or sum?
<sad_plan>
sx is leaner though. its just a small shell script
<sad_plan>
feh is in kiss-xorg synimas
<sewn>
synimas: feh is in kiss-xorg, but for a wayland image viewer user soething like mpv or pqiv
<sewn>
or... god forbid imv
<synimas>
Oh i meant for setting wallpapers lol
<sewn>
sad_plan: what about you? what kind of thinkpad do you use?
<sewn>
synimas: use wbg
<synimas>
Thank you
<sewn>
or swaybg if youre using sway
<sad_plan>
I dont have a thinkpad. I have an acer laptop
<synimas>
God everything takes so long to setup
<sad_plan>
aside from that, I have an old desktop I built like 10 years ago
<sad_plan>
synimas: no it doesnt. if you do things properly, you only have to set things up once. put everything in a kiss repo, and just build everything, and youre done :D even the kernel
<synimas>
There an updated list of kiss repos somewhere?
<sewn>
synimas: kiss-find
<sad_plan>
^
<sad_plan>
its in community
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<synimas>
I mean the initial setup
<sad_plan>
well yeah, that takes time
<sewn>
it doesnt take time if you have dotfiles ready
<sewn>
but if you have a 10 year old machine then yes it will take forever!!!!
<synimas>
Gotta learn how to make a kiss repo
<sad_plan>
its no faster than my shitty laptop tbqh sewn
<sad_plan>
and my laptop is 5 years old now? i think
<sewn>
im still considering running kiss on my thinkpad, im scared it will explode
<synimas>
Then its on to taking learning c and cpp seriously
<synimas>
I bought an ax210 specifially for using linux without modules
<synimas>
The wifi card
<sad_plan>
sewn: itll just take a really long time to build stuff. try a rpi instead if you love waiting for things to compile :p
<sewn>
i will just use distcc so i can offload the work to my pc
<sad_plan>
would probably either not be able to, or take a month to build a whole system
<synimas>
Is crosscompiling from windows super gross?
<sad_plan>
thats cheating
<sewn>
yes
<sewn>
absolutely
<sewn>
you are a criminal SCUM
<synimas>
Lmfao
<synimas>
Anyone have an irc relay that i can mooch off of?
<sewn>
you mean bouncer?
<synimas>
Yeah
<synimas>
Cant find a pubnix with one atm
<sewn>
well i know two free bouncers
<sewn>
one is a pubnix hosted on projectsegfau.lt but its somewhat unstable so i moved to pico.sh
<sewn>
pico.sh is also unstable but it goes back instantly
<sewn>
theres even sourcehut but you pay for it
<synimas>
Once i setup my repos with dwl and pfetch and shit it all should be unlimited right?
<sewn>
sure
<synimas>
Automatic i mean
<sewn>
kiss u && kiss U from then
<synimas>
Idk where unlimited came from
<synimas>
My end goal is minecraft
<sad_plan>
wait, a free bouncer. that nice though
<sewn>
i wanted to donate to projectsegfault because i used their bouncer for some time
<sewn>
but they use liberapay and i dont want to make a one time payment
<sewn>
i mean, i want to, just not monthly
<synimas>
Im too lazy to check logs
<sad_plan>
i get that
<sad_plan>
I do check logs here, but #oasis dont have logs.. not that it has lots of activity though
<sewn>
theres always free bouncers
<sewn>
theres ZNC on envs.net (i use it for my matrix) but it was horrible to setup
<synimas>
Matrix pisses me off
<synimas>
Way too slow
<sewn>
depends on the homeserver
<sewn>
i stopped using matrix because the EMS libera bridge died
<synimas>
Even on my modern desktop its slow, but yes it does depend on the homeserver
<sad_plan>
I see. didnt think there were any free bouncers. but now that I think about it, people offer alot of things for free so, why not bouncers aswell
<synimas>
Why use matrix when xmpp is the sams shit
<synimas>
Reinventing the wheel
<sewn>
i used matrix because of the irc bridge
<averymt>
setting up znc on your machine isn't difficult either, that's what I use as a bouncer
<sewn>
i cant use my irc client with it
<sad_plan>
sewn: do you use the webclient for pico, or a terminal irc client?
<sewn>
i use senpai
<sewn>
senpai(1) forever
<sad_plan>
catgirl forever bruh
<sewn>
ok fine ill try it
<sewn>
it only makes sense if im using pounce as the bouncer though
<sewn>
senpai was designed around soju
<sad_plan>
lol. I wish it was a bit more customizable though. like irssi i.e
<sad_plan>
I see
<sewn>
while catgirl wasnt really designed for-
<sad_plan>
isnt senpai written in go or something?
<synimas>
```[ 49%] Building CXX object Source/WebCore/CMakeFiles/WebCore.dir/__/__/WebCore/DerivedSources/unified-sources/UnifiedSource-5037b3e8-1.cpp.o
<synimas>
In file included from /home/synima/.cache/kiss/proc/2990/build/webkit2gtk/build/WebCore/DerivedSources/unified-sources/UnifiedSource-68aea4ac-20.cpp:6:
<synimas>
/home/synima/.cache/kiss/proc/2990/build/webkit2gtk/Source/WebCore/bindings/js/SerializedScriptValue.cpp: In member function 'bool WebCore::CloneSerializer::dumpIfTerminal(JSC::JSValue, WebCore::SerializationReturnCode&)':
<synimas>
/home/synima/.cache/kiss/proc/2990/build/webkit2gtk/Source/WebCore/bindings/js/SerializedScriptValue.cpp:1599:22: error: no matching function for call to 'WebCore::CloneSerializer::write(WebCore::SerializableErrorType)'