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<synima> Ima reinstall again for fun
<synima> 4th time
<synima> Whats special about carbs linux?
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<synima> Odd
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<sewn> asimovsh: no
<sewn> i dont use avr gcc like i said
<sewn> oh also hi
<sewn> why is kiss-xorg such a headache
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<sewn> ilt: i was just enlightened on the fact that switching to muon is rather useless, because major desktop components rely on python unrelated to meson in general
<sewn> what are your thoughts? i immediately lost the will to work on it after that
<sewn> also maintaining the giant muon patches for glib gtk etc is pretty hard
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<synima> There a way to see that application is dumping stout?
<sewn> whar
<ilt> sewn: not useless
<sewn> sure that muon is C, fast, and stuff, but the patches part is rather hard to maintain
<sewn> plus, python will always be present during desktop total compilation
<ilt> most of the patches are related to the lack of gnome module
<sewn> well idk what to do
<ilt> do my patches still work?
<sewn> nope
<sewn> i had to rebase some of them
<sewn> including the painful gnome ones
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<sewn> i didn't have that much of a problem with it
<sewn> ilt: what about all the community packages
<sewn> i haven't looked at them yet but theres roughly 32 packages
<sewn> excluding kiss-xorg, which is what i use and will be a total pain in the ass to transition to muon
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<ilt> if you are up for a challenge, you could reverse engineer gnome module and write a patch for muon, but that would be a major undertaking
<ilt> i remember i started working on it, but didn't progress much since then :(
<sewn> ilt: id rather not
<sewn> i have full will to go forward, just not the motivation as much
<sewn> atleast its better than nothing happening within kiss
<ilt> which patches don't work? let me see what i can do
<sewn> oh all of them work
<sewn> ok actually i should probably finish it
<sewn> mpv was a bit of a problem
<sewn> oh bruh the kisscommunity meson style is 'output', not 'build'
<sewn> why isnt it build?
<ilt> i don't think it matter which one to use
<ilt> both work
<sewn> the style guide though
<ilt> style guide is just an example, it doesn't dictate that you must use exactly 'output'
<ilt> but that's purely my vision, someone might disagree
<sewn> what i did find fun is the 'proper type' bools issue
<sewn> had to make prs for some projects
<ilt> yeah it's meson bug, muon helped to catch it
<sewn> lol yep
<sewn> honestly i find muon very comfy
<sewn> especially the website
<sewn> ilt: muon doesnt check in PATH for add_install_script?
<ilt> no clue. should it check?
<sewn> xkeyboard-config uses add_install_script('sh'...
<sewn> so yeah it basically should
<sewn> maybe theres an alterantive for it, cuz its only used for symlinking file at installation
<ilt> you could try add_install_script(find_program('sh')
<sewn> true
<sewn> is there really not an alternative for symlinking?
<sewn> yest here is
<sewn> install_symlink
<sewn> ilt: https://0x0.st/HvOq.txt do you know whats up with this?
<sewn> pango seems to fail to link due to missing error, but why would this happen only on muon?
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<ilt> argh this one is tricky
<ilt> there is either something wrong with library order or some library is missing on command line
<ilt> i remember dealing with this bug. I thought we fixed it but it seems not
<ilt> there is an easy way to debug it though
<ilt> you need to generate ninja files with meson and then with muon and compare them
<ilt> so basically find that cc command that links libpangoxft in muon-generated ninja files, compare that command to what meson generates and figure out what's missing/wrong. shouldn't be too hard
<ilt> afterwards you can report this bug to muon if you like. or fix it yourself, but it's really tricky one
<sewn> well ill have to go soon
<sewn> so if you could pick it up i would appreciate it
<sewn> somethign something vacation something something
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