01:06 <vulpine> what does "post logs or else" mean?

01:39 <phinxy> otherwise the goons break your kneecaps

04:07 <testuser[m]> Hi

18:58 <noocsharp> testuser[m]: why libmatrix and not libxmpp

19:41 <testuser[m]> https://anytype.io/en

19:41 <testuser[m]> 😎🚀

19:54 <tleydxdy[m]> lol, the page visibly lags on my computer

20:47 <cem> yeah, I'm dumb, but I didn't even understand what that exactly is

20:49 <noocsharp> all you really need to know is that it will always be free, always be an open ecosystem, will be open source when it launches and no storage limits

20:49 <cem> it talks about there being no storage limits, and it tells everything is offline

20:49 <noocsharp> doesn't matter too much what it is

20:50 <cem> yeah that's true

20:50 <Guest31>  it's a notion clone

20:50 <cem> Ahh now it makes so much sense

20:50 <cem> I should have understood from how slow that page was

20:50 <Guest31> local notion but they have p2p

20:51 <Guest31> "planning" to open source it once they progress to beta

20:52 <cem> my university uses notion for everything and I hate it with a burning passion

20:52 <cem> I would push for "local notion but the have p2p and foss" just to get rid of notion

20:52 <Guest31> it's actually promising

20:53 <tleydxdy[m]> as long as the web devs that did it are not the devs that made the actual software

20:53 <tleydxdy[m]> which is unlikely

20:54 <tleydxdy[m]> s/as long as the web devs that did it are not the devs that made the actual software/as long as the web devs that did the webpage are not the devs that made the actual software/

20:55 <Guest31> notion is a webapp, which sucks but anytype isn't much better. they have native mobile apps but on desktop it's electron

20:55 <cem> If the landing page is the same as the software itself, it's 100 times faster than notion

20:56 <tleydxdy[m]> lol, I've never touched notion.

20:56 <tleydxdy[m]> I know that people are talking about it

20:56 <cem> and the notion mobile app can go suck a dick, it's unironically slowest pile of garbage I had to use, I deleted after an hour

20:57 <tleydxdy[m]> can't be worse than emacs

20:57 <Guest31> anytype's webpage has always been pretty bad but at least it didn't look like a youtuber's online merch store back then: https://web.archive.org/web/20210321163742/https://anytype.io/

20:58 <tleydxdy[m]> if the page looked like this I would be sold https://web.archive.org/web/20190216023510/http://anytype.io/

20:59 <tleydxdy[m]> they can charge me 10 bucks a month

20:59 <cem> lol

21:00 <cem> i mean, the design itself doesn't bother me, i kind of like the current one

21:00 <Guest31> yeah it's unnecessarily heavyweight

21:02 <Guest31> which is reflective of the software

21:02 <tleydxdy[m]> it is necessary, at least now I'm not down 10 bucks a month

21:04 <Guest31> to be fair you need to sign up for the alpha and wait for an invitation to test it. i hear they'll be charging for extra hosting if you need one once released.

21:04 <tleydxdy[m]> that's fair

21:05 <tleydxdy[m]> so far other than the lag it seems fine

21:10 <Guest31> .appimage isn't so fine though. Electron is for compatibility but I really wouldn't want to run it. I'm guessing they are trying to launch the product as quickly as possible and get the attention of investors and potential customers

21:11 <tleydxdy[m]> appimage is fine for obsolete software or test packages imo

21:14 <maximum_yellow> woo, migrated to JFS for root

21:14 <maximum_yellow> jfsutils took some finagling, but it works. I think i'll contribute that to community

21:21 <midfavila-laptop> quick

21:21 <midfavila-laptop> lightning round acheam

21:22 <midfavila-laptop> https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/panasonic/images/c/cb/CF-U1.jpg

21:22 <midfavila-laptop> what's the first thing you think of when looking at this