00:23 <phoebos> gemini://miguelmurca.flounder.online/gemlog/2022-01-22.gmi

00:30 <phinxy> Installing a python module from source code does make the module listed under `pip list`.. Could anything get borked if it was uninstalled from pip instead of kiss?

00:32 <phinxy> I mean, obviously nothing happens.. but..

01:46 <Guest30> Hello

01:52 <Guest30> I have an error on boot. "starting version 250.3-1-arch" "fsck:error 2 (no such file or directory) while executing fsck.ext4 for /dev/sda3" "ERROR: fsck failed on '/dev/sda3'" "mount: /new_root: unknown filesystem type 'ext4'." "You are now being dropped into an emergency shell." "sh: can't access tty; job control turned off"

01:53 <Guest30> I have e2fsprogs installed, so I don't know why it cant do the fsck

01:57 <noocsharp> acheam: i think dilyn's just trying to learn go

01:57 <noocsharp> cproc is permissive

01:58 <noocsharp> i'm pretty sure clang is permissive

14:43 <phoebos> dilyn: https://tmp.bvnf.space/0001-catgirl-bump-to-2.0a.patch

15:20 <jason123onirc> Has anyone here used glasnost linux? I want to use it to comple packages on my one pc abd send it over to my not powerful pc to install kiss

15:21 <jason123onirc> When I try and do a glasnost install in a vm packages fail to install because of some ssl error

15:22 <testuser[m]> Show

15:28 <jason123onirc> show the error?

15:28 <testuser[m]> Yeah

15:29 <jason123onirc> curl: (60) SSL certificate problem: unable to get local issuer certificate

15:33 <testuser[m]> Run /etc/ssl/update-cert*.sh

15:33 <testuser[m]> That script will update ur certs

15:33 <testuser[m]> Else u can manually download them and disable tls verification temporarily

15:35 <jason123onirc> still gives me the same error

15:35 <jason123onirc> should I update ssl in the chroot or out of the chroot

15:38 <jedavies> Hey jason123onirc, you should do this inside the chroot

15:39 <jason123onirc> yeah i am doing it in the chroot just making sure

15:39 <jason123onirc> I did get a kiss linux install before but now I am trying glasnost to send packages to the less powerful pc I have

15:42 <jedavies> You using an arm device?

15:42 <jason123onirc> x86_64 to x86_64

15:43 <jason123onirc> but I first need to install glasnost in a vm to compile the packages

15:43 <jason123onirc> unless there is a different way to do it

15:44 <jedavies> Shouldn't need to use a vm, would be slow to compile packages.

15:45 <jedavies> You can just extract the x86_64 tarball on the build machine and on the client

15:46 <jason123onirc> so I don't need to have glasnost installed to build packages?

15:48 <jedavies> Both could be chroots, should be fine

15:50 <m3g> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1745560

15:54 <jason123onirc> Do I just mount the chroot and then use kiss-chroot to go into it?

16:02 <jason123onirc> oh I got it now

16:10 <jason123onirc> same error when I chroot from my host pc

16:17 <jedavies> OK, will look into it. For now as suggested you can temporarily disable tls verification

16:17 <jedavies> In /etc/ssl/update-certdata.sh, add a "-k" argument to curl

16:19 <bibliocar> hi hi hi

16:20 <bibliocar> Yeah, I had the same problem, i think I just copied all the ssl certificates over from my host machine, which is definately not the correct way to do things.

16:20 <bibliocar> It's a problem because you need the certificates in order to update the certificates, I think...

16:21 <bibliocar> I really need to go in and do a write up, but it's one of about five different things I need to do.

16:22 <bibliocar> also have a problem with netsurf-vi updating, but I'm not even sure which repo it's from... I should probably get around to that, I'm just trying to polish up a pull rekwest with someone else first.

16:23 <bibliocar> oh, -k, okay.

16:27 <jason123onirc> yeah a guide on how to use glasnost and compile stuff from it would be cool

16:46 <jedavies> There is some basic info on the repo page in github. Let me know if you have more specific questions, I can add more

16:46 <jedavies> bibliocar: what's up with netsurf-vi?

17:40 <jason123onirc> jedavies: I downloaded the tarball inside the install and extracted it and when I run KISS_ROOT=glasnost-linux kiss b neofetch it gives me an error about the package not being found

17:40 <jason123onirc> or any package really

17:43 <jason123onirc> nevermind just any package fails to build

17:43 <jason123onirc> and when i run a kiss u it tells me ERROR '*' not found

17:51 <jedavies> Did you set KISS_PATH ?

17:53 <jason123onirc> yes I did set kiss path

17:54 <jason123onirc> do I need to set kiss path in the tarball?

18:07 <jedavies> You need to set KISS_PATH to build packages, or cd to the package directory and run "kiss b" there. Also neofetch is in the community repo, but pfetch is available in the main repo

18:12 <jason123onirc> do I need to set kiss_root or just run kiss from glassnost? Since I am using x86_64 to x86_64 I might be able to just build right from the chroot

18:14 <jason123onirc> oh yeah when I build a package it gives me an error about /dev/tty not being found

18:36 <jedavies> I think you don't need a KISS_ROOT in your case. Built packages should be in ~/.cache/kiss/bin/local

18:42 <jason123onirc> ok that makes sense

18:43 <jason123onirc> but it gives me an error about /dev/tty not being found

18:54 <jedavies> Can you post the full error?

19:07 <jason123onirc> oh I figured it out

19:07 <jason123onirc> chroot is annoying

19:07 <jason123onirc> now its saying unknown user 1000

19:07 <jason123onirc> a guide on how to setup a chroot to compile packages would be nice

19:11 <jason123onirc> the full error is

19:12 <jason123onirc> Using /usr/bin/su (to become 1000) su: unknown user 1000

19:14 <bibliocar_> My solution was just to chown everything to root. I'm pretty sure what I do would make most people cringe... I made one person even go "nooooo"

19:16 <bibliocar_> ah, you are an unknown user

19:17 <bibliocar_> I'm the newb

19:17 <jason123onirc> oh yeah that did work

19:17 <jason123onirc> i mean

19:17 <jason123onirc> as long as it works and builds the package

19:18 <bibliocar_> I intend to go back and do everything correctly... eventually. I'm just a bit overloaded at the moment.

19:19 <jason123onirc> There needs to be a guide on how to setup a chroot to build packages

19:21 <jason123onirc> right now the github page just lists generic steps and leaves the user to doing most of the work on setting up the envirement to build the packages

19:22 <jason123onirc> even though its not as easy as chrooting into the tarball

19:25 <bibliocar_> Well, maybe it's not supposed to be easy, and little problems will continue to crop up. I don't know, not really my place to say. I'm just new here.

19:26 <bibliocar_> Personally, I agree with you.

19:28 <bibliocar_> I need to poke at the kernel config this guy was having trouble with, but it takes forever for my computer to build anything.

20:49 <Jason123santaOnI> Is there a way to now compile the kernel on the build machine? Looks like there is only a kernel build for the pinephone. I want to make glasnost on the target machine just like a regular kiss install and not just be in a chroot

22:03 <dilyn> testuser[m]: I agree with noocsharp on that front; 'crazy' is also a loaded term. mental health is important :v

22:03 <dilyn> acheam: llvm is permissive *enough* xD

22:04 <dilyn> jason123onirc: you should extract chroot tarballs as root so that the permissions are proper; if you extract as your user every file will have your user as the owner/group, which is not what you want (your user doesn't exist in that chroot, and this is the problem you're encountering)

22:05 <dilyn> I always keep a copy of kiss-chroot around so that I can quickly have a chroot setup in the proper ways (for instance, you perhaps didn't bind mount /dev which is why /dev/tty could not be found...)

22:14 <Jason123santaOnI> kiss-chroot does not work in this instance because the tarball is not mounted

22:17 <Jason123santaOnI> though I got it all working now I just need to figure out how to get it installed on the other pc now

22:38 <phinxy> is sshfs or equivalent in community?

23:03 <acheam> phinxy: rclone