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noocsharp >
nooc is a very very early work in progress, not good for anything
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noocsharp >
certainly not a language anyone should be learning
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opalvaults[m] >
eh, maybe i'll stick with picolisp or something. golang looks cool too. something simple would be ideal. i've never heard of nooc noocsharp , what is it?
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opalvaults[m] >
(a cursory google search did not yield what I expected)
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noocsharp >
just my toy compiler/language
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noocsharp >
i have no clue what i'm doing, but it works sometimes
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dilyn >
does it do anything remarkable or is it just a fun pet project?
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noocsharp >
for now just a fun pet project
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noocsharp >
i basically just want it to be c with more safety
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noocsharp >
i guess one cool thing is that it generates machine code directly instead of using an external ir
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dilyn >
neat neat neat
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noocsharp >
unless dilyn has a better solution, i'm gonna try to get a zoom flatpak working
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dilyn >
I mean the real solution is to just use the browser for zoom
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dilyn >
but if you can get flatpak to work properly do it
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noocsharp >
i spent the last 3 semesters using a usb drive with arch installed for zoom
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dilyn >
convince that trash to use google meet
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noocsharp >
> error: mkdir(/usr/var): Permission denied
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testuser[m] >
noocsharp: why not just use that arch install from chroot
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noocsharp >
i've tried using junest, haven't figured out how to set up /dev nodes with the right permissions
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testuser[m] >
Use bubblewrap
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noocsharp >
how does bubblewrap help with permissions?
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noocsharp >
and junest uses bubblewrap under the hood
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testuser[m] >
Idk it always just werked for me
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noocsharp >
maybe its junest that changes /dev to nobody:nobody
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noocsharp >
it does a weird fakeroot thing
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testuser[m] >
U should be able to use bubblewrap directly, just mount kiss root at / and arch's /usr at /usr
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noocsharp >
do i need to do it as root?
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noocsharp >
also do you have bwrap packaged?
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testuser[m] >
its in community
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testuser[m] >
And its rootless
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testuser[m] >
U will need setenv for XDG_RUNTIME_DIR and WAYLAND_DISPLAY too
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noocsharp >
ah, i forgot i had my community repository checked out to a commit from 2 years ago
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noocsharp >
probably just gonna install i3 or something inside the chroot
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dilyn >
you can also bind-root an arch chroot's root to its own directly, chroot in, and launch X
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dilyn >
though that's far too cumbersome
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noocsharp >
what's the difference between --dev and --dev-bind?
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noocsharp >
also where are all the options documented?
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testuser[m] >
--help
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testuser[m] >
Its. a long list
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dilyn >
best bet on option is just manpages...
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dilyn >
mount is probably one of the more easily bloated binaries
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noocsharp >
hmm, my permissions in /dev still seem to be wrong
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noocsharp >
but now maybe i'll be able to figure out why
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noocsharp >
well i got i3 to launch which is more than i can say for plain junest
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noocsharp >
is there a way to include a file in /dev that i don't own?
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testuser[m] >
bruh the kernel depends on bash now
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testuser[m] >
nvm make SHELL=sh worked
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testuser[m]: do you use udev on kiss? because that might explain why your permissions are being set correctly automatically in the chroot and mine aren't
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testuser[m] >
noocsharp: no
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testuser[m] >
udev as in eudev?
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testuser[m] >
I have libudev-zero
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testuser[m] >
U should be able to chown the things anyway or set the perms with bwrap flags
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noocsharp >
what are the user/group and permissions of your /dev/dri?
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testuser[m] >
root:video
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testuser[m] >
Which translates to uid 65534 in bwrap since /etc files don't exist
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noocsharp >
did you have to add your user to the 65534 group?
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noocsharp >
oh wait, you have o+* permissions on then
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testuser[m] >
Yeah cuz it can't lookup from /etc/group
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testuser[m] >
so it gives uid
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testuser[m] >
If ur normal user can access stuff then bwrap can too
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noocsharp >
65534 is the nobody group in my arch chroot, so i added my user to that
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noocsharp >
input still doesn't work in i3 for some reason...
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noocsharp >
wait, maybe i didn't install a driver
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testuser[m] >
did u mount everything from /dev?
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testuser[m] >
maybe input is missing
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noocsharp >
/dev/input is definitely there
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noocsharp >
should the chroot have /sys?
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dilyn >
it should have all your usual pseudo filesystems
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dilyn >
run, dev, dev/pts, dev/shm are needed (dev/shm was needed for chrome to launch iirc)
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noocsharp >
hmm... i mounted all of the pseudofilesystems in their entirety and input still workn't
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testuser[m] >
Seems fine
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testuser[m] >
Can u show the Xorg.log
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testuser[m] >
When u launch id
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bibliocar >
so, 9front is finally on my radar.
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bibliocar: por que?
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testuser[m]: you're on sourcebutt now?
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opalvaults[m] >
noocsharp: that's a really neat concept/language. :)